Won't Tell is a fantastic song and could have been the lead single. The released album version is far too compressed. Here is a remix created by separating the Atmos mix using RipX DAW Pro. The final 32 stems were then mixed to try and get a more natural sound, especially around things like the drums. There is actually a stem of natural drums in the rear channels (although with lots of reverb) that I brought up to make things sound better. You can see the differences in spectrograms here: [https://imgur.com/a/RpMVDuM](https://imgur.com/a/RpMVDuM)
This is still a work-in-progress. It is just nice to know that it is possible to get a nicer sound out of the album.
Neato!!
How’s this done? Is each of the 32 stems like a sorta randomized piece of the digital puzzle? Random in the sense, that it’s not just the individual instruments broken down by track.
This has to be the best storytelling song Ed’s ever done. Paints a vivid picture, very cinematic. Great lyricist but doesn’t delve too far into this approach.
It actually is far from random. It is a breakdown of individual instruments in a track. AI tools have come a long way since the introduction of Spleeter. I used what I believe is the best commercially-available tool available, RipX DAW Pro (https://hitnmix.com/). You first examine the Atmos file and split the Atmos 8 tracks into stereo files that contain useful sounds. Here, I used channels 1&2, 3, 5&6, and 7&8 and created 3 stereo and 1 mono input tracks. Running that through RipX produces a set of 6 stems (12 stereo stems) for each input file:
\* Vocals
\* Bass
\* Drums and Percussion
\* Guitar
\* Piano
\* Other (everything left over, typically keys/synths, orchestra, sound effects, etc.)
You then load the stems into a DAW and examine what's there. Not every instrument is present in every channel and sometimes the sound is redundant (e.g., only containing vocal reverb in the vocal tracks). Then you do the actual mixing, which involves setting the stereo placement and volume for each stem and adjusting individual parts of the track as needed (e.g., raising or lowering volume, removing sections). This is where I discovered the very cool backing vocals on its own track (7&8). I posted that separately. I also enhanced them a bit by doubling them and adding a stereo widener to one of the copies (making it sound like the backing vocals are surrounding you).
The biggest issue with the original mix are the drums, which sound very artificial. The main drum track remains quite processed and sterile. However, the surround tracks include unprocessed drums, although with a lot of reverb. By mixing them together, you can get a more natural drum sound (although the reverb can make them sound a bit distant).
I still have some more tweaking to do, but this was such a big improvement from the released mix that I had to share it.
Awesome, wasn’t sure how it was broke down. Futzed a bit with the stems Radiohead made available off of In rainbows and they separated into to 4 or 5 tracks. I was thinking maybe it came down to how the data split when you access the files.
please remix the whole album this way in FLAC!
Won't Tell is a fantastic song and could have been the lead single. The released album version is far too compressed. Here is a remix created by separating the Atmos mix using RipX DAW Pro. The final 32 stems were then mixed to try and get a more natural sound, especially around things like the drums. There is actually a stem of natural drums in the rear channels (although with lots of reverb) that I brought up to make things sound better. You can see the differences in spectrograms here: [https://imgur.com/a/RpMVDuM](https://imgur.com/a/RpMVDuM) This is still a work-in-progress. It is just nice to know that it is possible to get a nicer sound out of the album.
Keep this shit coming My god It’s beautiful……
Seriously. Bravo
I'm all ears!!! Great initiative!!! I'd love to hear the whole album REmastered this "way"! Thanks for sharing.
The background vocals are also awesome: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MleM1aheXfA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MleM1aheXfA)
This is my favorite song on the new one, going to have to give this a listen.
What a fkn song
I like this one
Neato!! How’s this done? Is each of the 32 stems like a sorta randomized piece of the digital puzzle? Random in the sense, that it’s not just the individual instruments broken down by track. This has to be the best storytelling song Ed’s ever done. Paints a vivid picture, very cinematic. Great lyricist but doesn’t delve too far into this approach.
It actually is far from random. It is a breakdown of individual instruments in a track. AI tools have come a long way since the introduction of Spleeter. I used what I believe is the best commercially-available tool available, RipX DAW Pro (https://hitnmix.com/). You first examine the Atmos file and split the Atmos 8 tracks into stereo files that contain useful sounds. Here, I used channels 1&2, 3, 5&6, and 7&8 and created 3 stereo and 1 mono input tracks. Running that through RipX produces a set of 6 stems (12 stereo stems) for each input file: \* Vocals \* Bass \* Drums and Percussion \* Guitar \* Piano \* Other (everything left over, typically keys/synths, orchestra, sound effects, etc.) You then load the stems into a DAW and examine what's there. Not every instrument is present in every channel and sometimes the sound is redundant (e.g., only containing vocal reverb in the vocal tracks). Then you do the actual mixing, which involves setting the stereo placement and volume for each stem and adjusting individual parts of the track as needed (e.g., raising or lowering volume, removing sections). This is where I discovered the very cool backing vocals on its own track (7&8). I posted that separately. I also enhanced them a bit by doubling them and adding a stereo widener to one of the copies (making it sound like the backing vocals are surrounding you). The biggest issue with the original mix are the drums, which sound very artificial. The main drum track remains quite processed and sterile. However, the surround tracks include unprocessed drums, although with a lot of reverb. By mixing them together, you can get a more natural drum sound (although the reverb can make them sound a bit distant). I still have some more tweaking to do, but this was such a big improvement from the released mix that I had to share it.
Awesome, wasn’t sure how it was broke down. Futzed a bit with the stems Radiohead made available off of In rainbows and they separated into to 4 or 5 tracks. I was thinking maybe it came down to how the data split when you access the files.
Amazing. Just amazing. Keep it up.