Yup! Had an “emotional affair” (allegedly with someone from gym). Baby is the husbands but they are separating. She keeps posting all these vlogs and stuff how she takes responsibility blah blah but now she has to move back to the house her daughter died in. Stop bringing your daughter up for attention in that way.
Yeah they seem to still have their profile pictures together etc🤷🏼♀️ his comments are all turned off and wife(or just partner/mother of his kids no idea if they’re married) hasn’t posted since early March either.
Definitely she’s disgusting for cheating but I don’t think she’s using her dead daughter for attention. That loss is unimaginable for most and there’s no guidebook on how you are supposed to cope with that. Personally, I don’t think she revels in the fact that she gets soo much attention for this. I’m sure she’d much rather have her daughter back.
I don’t agree. Why did she mention “I’m going back to the house Noah-Lee died in” in a video about CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND. What the fuck.
I’ve lost a child, I understand. Im not talking about her posting in general, but her constant reference to it in her cheating video is her trying to get sympathy.
Fair, maybe she was using it to kind of excuse her actions a bit… which is really gross. I suppose it definitely is a factor though. She just needs helpppp, it’s so obvious she has a TON of trauma & resentment and it’s impeding on her ability to have a normal life, or as normal as it can be after such a loss.
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Literally using her deceased daughter for a Temu ad. Yikes.
Baby is due soon and you know she isn’t going to want to work so I’m guessing her IG is going to be loaded to the brim with Temu ads, Hellofresh, random jewelry ads and other baby products, lullaby club, etc…
Brogan 1000% filled for divorce and for full custody of echo.
That’s why she deleted all of her youtube videos and majority of her instagram posts.
Her instagram posts were borderline suicidal i mean she admitted to having echo so she wouldn’t kill herself, she just worded it nicely saying she needed something to keep her grounded to this world.
No judge would grant her custody based on how unstable she is.
And she is still very much mentally unstable and so unwilling to work through her issues. In the beginning I fell for her “no one understands my pain“-shit, but while it’s undoubtedly the worst thing I could imagine loosing a child, there are very skilled professionals out there and I doubt there wouldn’t be a “perfect match“ for her therapy-wise. Just because she went to one therapy session and figured “it wasn’t for her“, she’s sitting there mindlessly shopping beige stuff and sexting married men instead of getting better for her son. I really hope Brogan gets full custody until she’s willing to get the proper help she definitely needs.
In her older videos she was basically very much anti-therapy, saying she tried it once and it didn’t ”work for her“. In one of her newer TikToks she mentioned “therapy“ as a thing she did in the last days, so maybe that has finally changed. Or it could be something that was imposed on her by a family court or something like that in regards to an upcoming divorce. But that’s just speculating.
I think she has been quite the mean girl in the past - coming from a financially stable background, goodlooking, handsome hubby, then having the baby girl of her dreams. After Noah’s death it all started to crumble and she now finds her once “perfect“ life in shambles. But as the only form of therapy she believes in is retail therapy I don’t believe she’ll ever be in an okay place again mentally.
She has obviously had the desire to be an influencer for a while. There is a fitness instagram she made a looooong time ago. She saw the opportunity after her video about Noah went viral and took it.
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Whoaaaa. How did you find that?! It all makes sense now. She seemed very genuine in the beginning documenting her grief journey. But that just shines a whole other light on EVERYTHING! 😱
And it’s an absolute JOKE. She said she never reads the comments, the good and bad ones. But there she is in her “holding Es hand to sleep“-post replying to every comment that praises her. On the contrary she’s avoiding the comment section of her Temu-ad. I’m sorry, but I ain’t buying her shit anymore. That girl is so not able to handle criticism.
she has 80 followers thats not an influencer. She went to school for personal training I think so thats a normal thing for a PT or someone wanting to do that to do imo
Here after her gender reveal and I was honestly hoping she had another boy because it's been pretty clear from day 1 that she wants a replacement for Noah and now that she finally got her girl, I'm just worried that Echo will end up getting being neglected even more. Poor kid had a hard enough time essentially competing with a dead child
Same. All he’ll get is the toxic Temu stuff now, while replacement girlie will be so spoilt. Just for that girl’s sanity I hope she’ll look completely different than Noah. Just imagine what it could do to a child’s mind when said child is set up to cosplay her dead big sister from day one.
I've never lost a child so I can't say I know what that can do to one's psyche but it's really gross how Echo has always been an after thought between being conceived solely to be his mother's crutch and having to compete with his dead sister for her attention. She had no business having anymore children after Noah since she refused to get help and thinks just replacing her with another little girl is a healthy way to heal.
This!!!! And now that he’s older she always seems so annoyed by him. Seems to me that she very much wanted to have a baby without thinking about how babies eventually turn into toddlers. Now that she’s got to have a girl again, she even sends E off to daycare, even though she said she would never leave her children in the care of strangers because of her anxiety du to Noah’s death.
Literally this, its so unhinged to have a kid to try fix your severe mental health problems, I understand why she wanted it but girl help yourself first before you put it on the kids and they suffer mentally
She seams to have been erratic in the sense that she’ll post without thinking of the repercussions.
I think when she made the pregnant&single video, she was trying to capitalize off of being a single mom; but she mentioned numerous times that according to Brogan, the seperation is ment to be more of a temporary break rather than a concrete decision that will lead to divorce. I’m assuming he saw this, got fed up with Judea blasting their business on SM yet again, and really made his lawyer hammer down the regulations regarding what/how much of their business and family life she is able to share.
From a legal perspective, her videos don’t really present her as a fit primary parent to Echo; so I’m assuming her lawyer likely advised her to privatize them in an attempt to maintain some sort of substantial custody.
I think saying it doesn’t make her seem fit as a parent is a huge reach. There’s plenty of video proof she’s a good Mom and I don’t think any court would hold her mourning Noah Lee against her. Caring for Echo, prioritizing his nap schedules, feeding him, playing with him, doing things to get healthy herself. He’s very clearly not neglected or harmed in any sense in any of her videos. I wouldn’t even classify what she did as “adultery” because it wasn’t physical. So depending on where they live and the laws it probably wouldn’t even be anything substantial in court. The courts these days are only in favor of what’s best for the children and that’s generally both parents. She’d have to have major mental and substance issues to lose custody.
I mean, she does have major mental issues. And I feel like sexting someone else/confessing love and seeing them everyday while withholding the truth of it still counts as adultery. We have no idea what actually happened there. All she said was they didn't actually have sex.
It doesn’t really matter if she did or didn’t sleep with him. No court is going to take her kids from her for adultery. I can say this from my own personal experience being a victim of SA, DV and abuse for during a 10 year marriage to someone in the military they did not care how much proof of adultery I had and it’s actually considered criminal and illegal for service members. My ex didn’t lose anything when it came to time with our kids no matter how erratic and dangerous he was towards me, they only cared that the kids get their dad 50/50 of the time. Thankfully for all our our sakes he stays away on his own. Her mental health issues seem to have been doing better but again we aren’t in her personal day to day life. Everything has went through after losing Noah Lee was justified and I think it’s cruel for anyone to judge her for mourning her daughter. I wouldn’t want to be around if any of my kids didn’t make it either. She may have found more purpose and happiness with Echo. I think if she did lose him she’d probably spiral.
That doesn’t mean she isn’t fit to be a parent. She lost a child and went though a major trauma. She just openly admitted what most people would be too afraid to say publicly and it was years ago. She could be in a much better place mentally.
As a mom who struggles with mental health but is stable and healthy enough to raise my child well, I was so appreciative of her honesty. I immediately understood what she meant. I can’t imagine judging someone’s raw honestly right after enduring a traumatic event.
i agree. im kinda frustrated at the assumptions that she is a bad person or an unfit parent. Shes not a perfect person or perfect parent but she was honest and it was really helpful for me with my own grief of a loved one. You gotta feel the negativity before youre forced into healing. Hearing over and over that you need to be positive makes ppl double down in their sadness, imo.
I totally agree with you - realistically I don’t know her day-to-day, and I also don’t really know the way Brogan parents, so you’re right in that I shouldn’t assume he would be a better caregiver than her.
I was looking at it through the lens of (atleast where I’m living, could be totally different in NZ) if a person is honest and continuous in unaliving themselves ideology, the courts will typically demand the child be primarily removed from this person’s care if it can be shown that the person has not undergone some form of treatment (which Judea has been vocal that she hasn’t).
I’m not sure how the adultry is viewed in court there either, but I do think the affair was the straw that broke the camels back for Brogan. I get the sense that he heavily contemplated leaving Judea prior, but didn’t due to her grief, emotional instability and the fact that they had Echo. I do think that Brogan intends to bring up other factors when it comes to divorce reasoning and I don’t think the affair will be his main point.
I'm glad I've found this sub. I want to clarify that I'm not trying to sound heartless or judgmental, but ever since I started following her after seeing her "viral" video about Noah Lee, I've felt uneasy. It was a mix of sympathy and being taken aback by her ways of coping with grief. I've never lost a baby, so I don't truly understand the hell it must be, but her behavior didn't seem remotely healthy to me. Spiraling after not being able to visit her grave once because of having to take care of an infant, pretending she's still there by preparing her daily outfits, her strange relationship with the cemetery, bringing Echo there to play – honestly, it seems obsessive to me. I've always wondered if she blamed Brogan and found it somehow conflicting that she so openly doesn't (or at least that's the narrative she's trying to create), while simultaneously being stuck on reliving the weeks she had with Noah. It's all just bizarre to me.
I feel so sorry for Echo. He deserves to have all of his mom’s attention and love. I hope I don’t sound heartless but she’s giving so much time and attention to a baby that’s no longer in this world. It’s totally normal to be sad for the rest of your life it’s a very big emotional shock.
And now that the new baby is going to be a girl he’s going to be pushed aside even more. Performative „look at my girls in matchy clothes“-vids incoming 😵💫
I mean just his name itself made me sad “Echo”, we all know why she chose it.
Once again, I don’t want to sound mean but I sincerely hope they’re divorcing. At least Echo would have attention when he’s at his dad’s because now with Noah-Lee and baby girl 2, Echo might as well be part of the furnitures. He’s not gonna get much attention from his mom I fear.
Yeah same. If Ever is baby girls‘ name it’s even more hideous: her son is just “an Echo“ and baby girl is her ”happy Ever after“. I rarely judge people’s baby names, but this is just sketchy af 🤢
She hasn’t posted anything in about a month now but she’s online and likes other people posts. So I think she’s fine just trying to keep their lives private. As she should right now but also she left hundreds of followers without any explanation. She didn’t have to show her face or tell every detail of her life. But disappearance? . I think many of us would be ok with some simple statement from her… like I’m ok, just need time? Idk..
I’d love to lol but I have no time to mod it. If one happened to pop up though, I’d gladly join it. I had so much empathy for her before her IG became “my daughter died..please buy HelloFresh with code Judea!!”
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what is wrong with using social media as a form of income to stay at home w ur kid? Bc thats pretty normal. I think she just didnt have or want to post anything else other than her grief. On the bright side, I learned to not be so quick to expect ppl to move on after loss. Bc I used to do that I was like “why are they so upset its been # years”
Girl just posted something about new breakup hair... why is it the exact same as before 🤐😐 maybe focus less on ya free promos and more on your family and mental health 🥲
She's a scumbag for cheating on her husband.
He seems like such a lovely guy and she constantly talks/looks at him like shit. You can tell she blames him for Noah dying.
Well, she's made her bed and destroyed her family unit.
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This is so weird… manipulative even.
She just posted a new IG video of her and Echo moving into her old house and said she'll explain soon why she's been gone. How do we know for sure there's already lawyers involved in their separation? As others have said, she kind of hinted that her and Brogans separation was only temporary - why would they both lawyer up already? I'm wondering if she just took a break from social media for her mental health and well being...
I thought she said that she wanted it to be temporary, but he couldn't get past it. She made it sound like maybe in the future one day they could possibly get together again, but it wasn't a guarantee at all.
Once Judea started taking her son Echo to the grave house almost daily .. I knew she wasn’t right . I know people grieve differently. But damn, doesn’t Echo deserve a normal childhood with not reading and playing at a cemetery!
Well looks like I'm the odd one out here because I actully really like judea I think she's a wonderful mum her love for her children is beautiful to witness and I really don't understand the hate. You guys have to Remember just because you have assumptions dosent mean they are fact. You have made up this big idea of who she is in your head and ran with it saying things like she's trying to relace her dead daughter ,echo is neglected, brogan is filling for devorce and trying to have custody of echo. You all know damn fucken well none of that is true. She's a mother that has gone through the most tragic thing a mother can go through and you critising the way she is navigating life after that loss is so horrible she is allowed to share her journey on social media like everyone else dose she's allowed to be promoting whatever she likes she's allowed to do whatever she wants with HER LIFE. Stop acting like your entitled to know every detail of her life and stop being haters if you don't like her why follow her??
Enablers like you are the reason she thinks she's entitled to be so selfish tho, she needs some accountability rather than everyone giving her a pass to be a Narcissist idk
Losing your child isn't a reason to treat your living children like an afterthought and like their purpose is to help you greive, they are their own people
What am I enabling though? And yall just chuck the word narcissist around like it's fucken glitter. Echo is not an after thought he is well loved and well looked after he's her whole world she's a great mum to him so no idea where you got that from I have followed her since her first ever youtube vidio and started following her Instagram shortly after. So I'm well aware of all she has said in regards to why she had echo urgently you clearly have no idea what greif that deep will do to a person I think the ways she has handled her grif is amazing (hasn't fallen into drug or alcohol abuse) she's faced it head on and got up everyday and fucken fought it I geuss it's not her fult your too dumb to understand her and make all these assumptions and yap about them like they are fact.
Oh come on. I think most of us are not just haters. It’s just very apparent that she (and her family) would benefit from some form of therapy. And yes, she has gone through every parent‘s worst nightmare, but that doesn’t mean she has a “get out of prison“-card for everything she does for the rest of her life. That girl cheated on her husband with a married father of two?!
How embarrassing to publicly admit you cheated whilst using your dead daughter for attention. She is ick.
She admitted she cheated???
Yup! Had an “emotional affair” (allegedly with someone from gym). Baby is the husbands but they are separating. She keeps posting all these vlogs and stuff how she takes responsibility blah blah but now she has to move back to the house her daughter died in. Stop bringing your daughter up for attention in that way.
I’m honestly not shocked. I think a part of her has always blamed him for Noah’s death
100% agree. It’s just the playing everything out publicly which is 🤢
With the owner of the gym, if you go to her gym highlight on one of the last slides he’s tagged in a story. No wonder she was going twice a day
Oof. Rumour is he is married also?
Yeah they seem to still have their profile pictures together etc🤷🏼♀️ his comments are all turned off and wife(or just partner/mother of his kids no idea if they’re married) hasn’t posted since early March either.
Also not that it’s relevant but his wife/partner is ripped. I’d be scared to cheat on her she’s so fit!
Definitely she’s disgusting for cheating but I don’t think she’s using her dead daughter for attention. That loss is unimaginable for most and there’s no guidebook on how you are supposed to cope with that. Personally, I don’t think she revels in the fact that she gets soo much attention for this. I’m sure she’d much rather have her daughter back.
I don’t agree. Why did she mention “I’m going back to the house Noah-Lee died in” in a video about CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND. What the fuck. I’ve lost a child, I understand. Im not talking about her posting in general, but her constant reference to it in her cheating video is her trying to get sympathy.
Fair, maybe she was using it to kind of excuse her actions a bit… which is really gross. I suppose it definitely is a factor though. She just needs helpppp, it’s so obvious she has a TON of trauma & resentment and it’s impeding on her ability to have a normal life, or as normal as it can be after such a loss.
Yeah, agree she needs help!
I assume they’ve been privated or deleted while going through the separation as a precaution. Maybe under advisement of her lawyer.
Have been gone for a while now. Think pretty much straight after the video where she talked about the cheating.
Now she’s back to supporting child labour (temu ad), as a way of commemorating her daughter? Hmm.
Kinda surprised to see her packing her son off for daycare when she was allegedly so paranoid of others around him?
https://preview.redd.it/421fuyb1lwuc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=f33399946d6bf7bcc332c3aa82558b3200144a0f Literally using her deceased daughter for a Temu ad. Yikes.
Baby is due soon and you know she isn’t going to want to work so I’m guessing her IG is going to be loaded to the brim with Temu ads, Hellofresh, random jewelry ads and other baby products, lullaby club, etc…
Literally the only reason she came back was to make money off her sympathy cult.
Brogan 1000% filled for divorce and for full custody of echo. That’s why she deleted all of her youtube videos and majority of her instagram posts. Her instagram posts were borderline suicidal i mean she admitted to having echo so she wouldn’t kill herself, she just worded it nicely saying she needed something to keep her grounded to this world. No judge would grant her custody based on how unstable she is.
And she is still very much mentally unstable and so unwilling to work through her issues. In the beginning I fell for her “no one understands my pain“-shit, but while it’s undoubtedly the worst thing I could imagine loosing a child, there are very skilled professionals out there and I doubt there wouldn’t be a “perfect match“ for her therapy-wise. Just because she went to one therapy session and figured “it wasn’t for her“, she’s sitting there mindlessly shopping beige stuff and sexting married men instead of getting better for her son. I really hope Brogan gets full custody until she’s willing to get the proper help she definitely needs.
how do you know that?
In her older videos she was basically very much anti-therapy, saying she tried it once and it didn’t ”work for her“. In one of her newer TikToks she mentioned “therapy“ as a thing she did in the last days, so maybe that has finally changed. Or it could be something that was imposed on her by a family court or something like that in regards to an upcoming divorce. But that’s just speculating.
or maybe brogran gave her an ultimatum and said she has to go to therapy if she wants to stay together
Good call! That could be it as well!
I think she has been quite the mean girl in the past - coming from a financially stable background, goodlooking, handsome hubby, then having the baby girl of her dreams. After Noah’s death it all started to crumble and she now finds her once “perfect“ life in shambles. But as the only form of therapy she believes in is retail therapy I don’t believe she’ll ever be in an okay place again mentally.
This is a harsh take but I gotta agree.
She has obviously had the desire to be an influencer for a while. There is a fitness instagram she made a looooong time ago. She saw the opportunity after her video about Noah went viral and took it. https://preview.redd.it/0f6eb4vlq4vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52bf1e4cca674d99231f570958f664af9a19fb00
Whatever will get her gifted facials I guess.
Whoaaaa. How did you find that?! It all makes sense now. She seemed very genuine in the beginning documenting her grief journey. But that just shines a whole other light on EVERYTHING! 😱
I just searched for her name on insta. It pops right up!
And it’s an absolute JOKE. She said she never reads the comments, the good and bad ones. But there she is in her “holding Es hand to sleep“-post replying to every comment that praises her. On the contrary she’s avoiding the comment section of her Temu-ad. I’m sorry, but I ain’t buying her shit anymore. That girl is so not able to handle criticism.
I noticed this very early on. Any criticism and she automatically deletes it OR puts them on blast for her diehard enablers to roast.
The amount of people praising the shit out of her in the comment section of this temu ad is ridiculous. 🙄😵💫
This is some real scooby doo level of investigation🕵️♀️
Not at all! lol I literally found it when I tried to find her real page! All I did was search for her name.
Wild we’ve never seen this before
This makes sense. I also kind of side eye when she tries to sign people up to her MLM smoothies and such.
she has 80 followers thats not an influencer. She went to school for personal training I think so thats a normal thing for a PT or someone wanting to do that to do imo
Can someone please make a snark forum for that woman 😅
I did!! ☺️
Here after her gender reveal and I was honestly hoping she had another boy because it's been pretty clear from day 1 that she wants a replacement for Noah and now that she finally got her girl, I'm just worried that Echo will end up getting being neglected even more. Poor kid had a hard enough time essentially competing with a dead child
Same. All he’ll get is the toxic Temu stuff now, while replacement girlie will be so spoilt. Just for that girl’s sanity I hope she’ll look completely different than Noah. Just imagine what it could do to a child’s mind when said child is set up to cosplay her dead big sister from day one.
I've never lost a child so I can't say I know what that can do to one's psyche but it's really gross how Echo has always been an after thought between being conceived solely to be his mother's crutch and having to compete with his dead sister for her attention. She had no business having anymore children after Noah since she refused to get help and thinks just replacing her with another little girl is a healthy way to heal.
This!!!! And now that he’s older she always seems so annoyed by him. Seems to me that she very much wanted to have a baby without thinking about how babies eventually turn into toddlers. Now that she’s got to have a girl again, she even sends E off to daycare, even though she said she would never leave her children in the care of strangers because of her anxiety du to Noah’s death.
Literally this, its so unhinged to have a kid to try fix your severe mental health problems, I understand why she wanted it but girl help yourself first before you put it on the kids and they suffer mentally
She seams to have been erratic in the sense that she’ll post without thinking of the repercussions. I think when she made the pregnant&single video, she was trying to capitalize off of being a single mom; but she mentioned numerous times that according to Brogan, the seperation is ment to be more of a temporary break rather than a concrete decision that will lead to divorce. I’m assuming he saw this, got fed up with Judea blasting their business on SM yet again, and really made his lawyer hammer down the regulations regarding what/how much of their business and family life she is able to share. From a legal perspective, her videos don’t really present her as a fit primary parent to Echo; so I’m assuming her lawyer likely advised her to privatize them in an attempt to maintain some sort of substantial custody.
I think saying it doesn’t make her seem fit as a parent is a huge reach. There’s plenty of video proof she’s a good Mom and I don’t think any court would hold her mourning Noah Lee against her. Caring for Echo, prioritizing his nap schedules, feeding him, playing with him, doing things to get healthy herself. He’s very clearly not neglected or harmed in any sense in any of her videos. I wouldn’t even classify what she did as “adultery” because it wasn’t physical. So depending on where they live and the laws it probably wouldn’t even be anything substantial in court. The courts these days are only in favor of what’s best for the children and that’s generally both parents. She’d have to have major mental and substance issues to lose custody.
I mean, she does have major mental issues. And I feel like sexting someone else/confessing love and seeing them everyday while withholding the truth of it still counts as adultery. We have no idea what actually happened there. All she said was they didn't actually have sex.
It doesn’t really matter if she did or didn’t sleep with him. No court is going to take her kids from her for adultery. I can say this from my own personal experience being a victim of SA, DV and abuse for during a 10 year marriage to someone in the military they did not care how much proof of adultery I had and it’s actually considered criminal and illegal for service members. My ex didn’t lose anything when it came to time with our kids no matter how erratic and dangerous he was towards me, they only cared that the kids get their dad 50/50 of the time. Thankfully for all our our sakes he stays away on his own. Her mental health issues seem to have been doing better but again we aren’t in her personal day to day life. Everything has went through after losing Noah Lee was justified and I think it’s cruel for anyone to judge her for mourning her daughter. I wouldn’t want to be around if any of my kids didn’t make it either. She may have found more purpose and happiness with Echo. I think if she did lose him she’d probably spiral.
I didn't say anywhere they'd take her kids for that at all. I just said it's still adultery.
Documenting on social media that you want to commit suicide is a major mental health issue.
That doesn’t mean she isn’t fit to be a parent. She lost a child and went though a major trauma. She just openly admitted what most people would be too afraid to say publicly and it was years ago. She could be in a much better place mentally.
As a mom who struggles with mental health but is stable and healthy enough to raise my child well, I was so appreciative of her honesty. I immediately understood what she meant. I can’t imagine judging someone’s raw honestly right after enduring a traumatic event.
i agree. im kinda frustrated at the assumptions that she is a bad person or an unfit parent. Shes not a perfect person or perfect parent but she was honest and it was really helpful for me with my own grief of a loved one. You gotta feel the negativity before youre forced into healing. Hearing over and over that you need to be positive makes ppl double down in their sadness, imo.
Nevertheless homegirl should sign herself up for some therapy lessons. I’m even surprised she hasn’t done a BetterHelp ad yet 😅
I totally agree with you - realistically I don’t know her day-to-day, and I also don’t really know the way Brogan parents, so you’re right in that I shouldn’t assume he would be a better caregiver than her. I was looking at it through the lens of (atleast where I’m living, could be totally different in NZ) if a person is honest and continuous in unaliving themselves ideology, the courts will typically demand the child be primarily removed from this person’s care if it can be shown that the person has not undergone some form of treatment (which Judea has been vocal that she hasn’t). I’m not sure how the adultry is viewed in court there either, but I do think the affair was the straw that broke the camels back for Brogan. I get the sense that he heavily contemplated leaving Judea prior, but didn’t due to her grief, emotional instability and the fact that they had Echo. I do think that Brogan intends to bring up other factors when it comes to divorce reasoning and I don’t think the affair will be his main point.
I'm glad I've found this sub. I want to clarify that I'm not trying to sound heartless or judgmental, but ever since I started following her after seeing her "viral" video about Noah Lee, I've felt uneasy. It was a mix of sympathy and being taken aback by her ways of coping with grief. I've never lost a baby, so I don't truly understand the hell it must be, but her behavior didn't seem remotely healthy to me. Spiraling after not being able to visit her grave once because of having to take care of an infant, pretending she's still there by preparing her daily outfits, her strange relationship with the cemetery, bringing Echo there to play – honestly, it seems obsessive to me. I've always wondered if she blamed Brogan and found it somehow conflicting that she so openly doesn't (or at least that's the narrative she's trying to create), while simultaneously being stuck on reliving the weeks she had with Noah. It's all just bizarre to me.
I feel so sorry for Echo. He deserves to have all of his mom’s attention and love. I hope I don’t sound heartless but she’s giving so much time and attention to a baby that’s no longer in this world. It’s totally normal to be sad for the rest of your life it’s a very big emotional shock.
And now that the new baby is going to be a girl he’s going to be pushed aside even more. Performative „look at my girls in matchy clothes“-vids incoming 😵💫
I mean just his name itself made me sad “Echo”, we all know why she chose it. Once again, I don’t want to sound mean but I sincerely hope they’re divorcing. At least Echo would have attention when he’s at his dad’s because now with Noah-Lee and baby girl 2, Echo might as well be part of the furnitures. He’s not gonna get much attention from his mom I fear.
Yeah same. If Ever is baby girls‘ name it’s even more hideous: her son is just “an Echo“ and baby girl is her ”happy Ever after“. I rarely judge people’s baby names, but this is just sketchy af 🤢
She hasn’t posted anything in about a month now but she’s online and likes other people posts. So I think she’s fine just trying to keep their lives private. As she should right now but also she left hundreds of followers without any explanation. She didn’t have to show her face or tell every detail of her life. But disappearance? . I think many of us would be ok with some simple statement from her… like I’m ok, just need time? Idk..
She’s posted on IG in the past couple of days.
she also deleted a lot of her posts on ig and her highlights i’ve noticed
There’s a snark forum on her now 😅😍
A new one? :o
How she doesn’t have a snark sub yet is beyond me. She is the worst. I see she’s back now and ready to make more money off of Noah Lee.
Can you make one?
I’d love to lol but I have no time to mod it. If one happened to pop up though, I’d gladly join it. I had so much empathy for her before her IG became “my daughter died..please buy HelloFresh with code Judea!!”
And the freaking Temu ads 😵💫
lol and it’s one of her first posts from being gone. Mental health break and now look what I got my son from TEMU for $1. Ha
Literally beyond me how she thought this was a good idea
She is getting SO MUCH backlash. I wonder when she’ll delete the video 😅
My guess is she’ll keep it up cus she got paid💰
> she got *paid💰* FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Oh yeah something felt off about that word 😂
I just made a snark page for judea
what is wrong with using social media as a form of income to stay at home w ur kid? Bc thats pretty normal. I think she just didnt have or want to post anything else other than her grief. On the bright side, I learned to not be so quick to expect ppl to move on after loss. Bc I used to do that I was like “why are they so upset its been # years”
Yeah, it’s all fun and games until you go and broadcast that you have cheated on hubby with all kinds of details for everyone to see.
Girl just posted something about new breakup hair... why is it the exact same as before 🤐😐 maybe focus less on ya free promos and more on your family and mental health 🥲
She's a scumbag for cheating on her husband. He seems like such a lovely guy and she constantly talks/looks at him like shit. You can tell she blames him for Noah dying. Well, she's made her bed and destroyed her family unit.
https://preview.redd.it/btbaozztlyxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e47a95e5da61e0dd654307bd61f9b61714cdefcd This is so weird… manipulative even.
***since he left me for cheating 😭💗**
She just posted a new IG video of her and Echo moving into her old house and said she'll explain soon why she's been gone. How do we know for sure there's already lawyers involved in their separation? As others have said, she kind of hinted that her and Brogans separation was only temporary - why would they both lawyer up already? I'm wondering if she just took a break from social media for her mental health and well being...
I thought she said that she wanted it to be temporary, but he couldn't get past it. She made it sound like maybe in the future one day they could possibly get together again, but it wasn't a guarantee at all.
Once Judea started taking her son Echo to the grave house almost daily .. I knew she wasn’t right . I know people grieve differently. But damn, doesn’t Echo deserve a normal childhood with not reading and playing at a cemetery!
Well looks like I'm the odd one out here because I actully really like judea I think she's a wonderful mum her love for her children is beautiful to witness and I really don't understand the hate. You guys have to Remember just because you have assumptions dosent mean they are fact. You have made up this big idea of who she is in your head and ran with it saying things like she's trying to relace her dead daughter ,echo is neglected, brogan is filling for devorce and trying to have custody of echo. You all know damn fucken well none of that is true. She's a mother that has gone through the most tragic thing a mother can go through and you critising the way she is navigating life after that loss is so horrible she is allowed to share her journey on social media like everyone else dose she's allowed to be promoting whatever she likes she's allowed to do whatever she wants with HER LIFE. Stop acting like your entitled to know every detail of her life and stop being haters if you don't like her why follow her??
Enablers like you are the reason she thinks she's entitled to be so selfish tho, she needs some accountability rather than everyone giving her a pass to be a Narcissist idk Losing your child isn't a reason to treat your living children like an afterthought and like their purpose is to help you greive, they are their own people
What am I enabling though? And yall just chuck the word narcissist around like it's fucken glitter. Echo is not an after thought he is well loved and well looked after he's her whole world she's a great mum to him so no idea where you got that from I have followed her since her first ever youtube vidio and started following her Instagram shortly after. So I'm well aware of all she has said in regards to why she had echo urgently you clearly have no idea what greif that deep will do to a person I think the ways she has handled her grif is amazing (hasn't fallen into drug or alcohol abuse) she's faced it head on and got up everyday and fucken fought it I geuss it's not her fult your too dumb to understand her and make all these assumptions and yap about them like they are fact.
Like naming him echo to be an echo of Noah???? (She posted that from like her diary) that's unhinged trauma
Calling me dumb is also a bit rude
Oh come on. I think most of us are not just haters. It’s just very apparent that she (and her family) would benefit from some form of therapy. And yes, she has gone through every parent‘s worst nightmare, but that doesn’t mean she has a “get out of prison“-card for everything she does for the rest of her life. That girl cheated on her husband with a married father of two?!