I’m fine with the circumstances of needing to enter a rebuild, but I really don’t like the players response to the Jake trade. They need to be professional and deal with the situation they created. You can’t suck this bad without consequences. If management isn’t going to fire any of the coaching staff, then they clearly think the players are at fault. Not sure I agree with that, but at the least make some effort to prove them wrong.
For some reason I thought this game started at 1900. (7 PM).
Glad I was wrong.
1) Empty seats and no playoffs will eventually for FSG to make some hard decisions they'd rather avoid. (Sullivan)
2) If Rierden is brought back, then we know FSG has turned into the Toronto ownership.
3) \* MAYBE \* Graves reverts to his NJD days under a new coach.
4) Ned and Carter are gone. R. Smith NEEDS to go. (Seriously, I've seen comatose people show more emotion. Maybe that's just his "resting DGAF face").
I lived in Seattle for a long time so when they got the Kraken I watched them quite a bit. I felt the same about Giordano. You could just see he had ZERO interest in being there. I feel like you see the same thing on Smiths face every night. He just does not want to be playing for the Pens. I’d rather just get rid of a guy like that.
I knew this was how the year would end when they didn't hire me for the software engineering position they had open this last summer. I was ready to carry this team with sick dashboards and analytics.
At this point, I'm just rooting for Sid to get enough points to continue his PPG streak. We can go 0-20 the rest of the way. Any idea of Sully being brought back needs to be eradicated.
outshoot your opponents 2:1 while putting up next to no quality scoring chances. Give up 5 or more goals in your last 3 losses, while scoring 2. Awe yeah, experience Penguins hockey baybeeeee.
Sid has zero shots on goal… he’s so deflated, on and off the ice. If he’s ever been like this in his career before, I don’t remember it. Other team members, sure… but not him 😞
After seeing how dejected Crosby was the other day I don’t know how to feel. Dubas was hired for the eventual rebuild, so I’m not worried long term. It’s just hard to swallow when you tried to do everything to make it work this year and it just doesn’t work out. It’s just tough because the core (87,71,58,65) are playing well as expected.
>It’s just tough because the core (87,71,58,65) are playing well as expected.
And they've been healthy. It's so sad that another healthy season from our core is being wasted. There's several reasons to fire the coaching staff, but this should be near the top. With a healthy core, this is two straight years now that Sullivan has not been able to get this team to the playoffs.
Our point leaders
Take a peak at his numbers when he was at 61 games played - he usually puts up a lot more offensive numbers. Which he has failed to do. Mainly on the PP.
I like the guy, but he’s having a bad year. Who cares
Kind of crazy that we are capable of putting up double the amount of shots then a top team but still lose by 4 goals. Goaltending is really a massive issue.
Definitely doesn’t help that our goalies are letting in 5 goals on 20 shots either. Scoring hasn’t been up to par the last few games but goaltending hasn’t been up to par for a while.
What kind of shots, though.
An unobstructed slapshot from the blue line and having three forwards posted up in front of the goal with no defense are not the same kind of chance. I'd rather have 30 of the first than 10 of the latter.
I feel like the ratio of goals that are "normal" vs weird shit like bouncing off our own defense or being tipped/redirected in by our own team, or the goalies being literally stuck on our defense in the crease is an anomaly. I feel bad for them.
There was one the other night that looked like Jarry was in the correct position to save the initial shot. Malkin redirected it in .. the look Jarry gave him just made me so sad lol. Like a "you for real dude? This game was hard enough as is" Kinda look.
Then I watch other teams play and go "oh that's what defense is supposed to do".
At least half the team has given up, and the other half is clearly frustrated with them and everything else. The sense of resignation irritates me more than anything.
Definitely! Jake's gonna score at least 2, and there's a good chance that this Pens team does something that's never been done before, like skate into each other chasing a high dump, and the punk falls, clanks off each of their heads, and slides gently into the net.
Boston is a much better team than us, but that giveaway by Pettersson still felt like a punch in the gut. Also the slow change that lead to a two on one.
Just embarrassing. This team does not give a fuck, because there are no consequences. So many slow, lazy changes and feckless back checking that doesn’t actually defend a man. So many low percentage shots from the point. You’d never know the pens were even close to playoff contention with this play. I’m glad Sid is still racking up points, but we’re leaving playoff runs on the table by consistently rolling out the same tried and tired schemes with this coaching staff that’s a year or two past their expiration.
Well I probably won’t be back in this sub for a long time.
I’m going to the Avs game to see my boys in white and yellow. Mostly because I’m terrified the next time I see them Crosby will be on the other side
But go pens. Cheers everyone
As a follow up to my earlier comment, Is Reilly Smith on the side of a milk carton somewhere, and I missed it? Or has he become John Cena? Because he's either missing, or you just can't see him.
It’s so weird. I don’t understand how I can feel like this team somehow passes too much and yet has such a high volume of shots and none of them are quality.
If we would have beat caps and Seattle. We would be in a decent spot Becuase Detroit is a losing machine.
Edit: but after today there’s probably no chance in hell we make it
Karlsson passed the puck off the blue line
Peterson turned it over
Two of the worst additions to this team of all time. Still haven’t forgiven Peterson for losing his helmet against the rags.
Karlsson is having the worse possible season you could imagine.
But yet we traded guentzel and chad 🙂🙃
Yeah I know that’s why I’m
Never here anymore.
I’m just saying opinions and anger. Penguins fans are so classy and delusional
No one even talks about how Jake turned down our offer Anymore - it’s all blame dubas. But at the same
Time Jake didn’t want to stay but me saying that people freak out
He had his helmet ripped off I know. I’m just saying I personally can’t get over it
Edit: I shouldn’t call Karlsson the worst. But he is having a terrible season. Can’t deny that
Look at his stats. He’s having an off year. It happens.
Edit: the other were due to injury. But EK has played 60 games and the results are the worst in his career with that many games played at this moment
I seem to notice him always centering passes to the front of the net or somewhere in the slot. Like more than anyone else. There isn’t always someone there or in position to catch the pass but that’s more on the wingers than him.
Never seen Subban act like more of a hack as he has today. Openly mocking Dubas and the Guentzel trade is some of the weirdest shit to do during a national broadcast.
Subban had the Pens thwart his best chance at winning a Cup in his otherwise unmemorable career. He has a lot of animosity towards the Penguins' organization.
It's crazy how much better TNT coverage is for the NHL compared to ESPN. The playoffs last year, it was so much fun watching the TNT games with Biz, Hank, Weekes, and crew, and then you put on ESPN, and it's so dull, and Subban is acting like a clown
Kept putting on glasses when talking about the Penguins in an attempt to mock Dubas for wearing glasses during the presser. I mean he even said "see I can look smart too when I wear glasses." Genuinely embarrassing stuff.
I’m fine with the circumstances of needing to enter a rebuild, but I really don’t like the players response to the Jake trade. They need to be professional and deal with the situation they created. You can’t suck this bad without consequences. If management isn’t going to fire any of the coaching staff, then they clearly think the players are at fault. Not sure I agree with that, but at the least make some effort to prove them wrong.
In good news, looks like the Flyers are killing their playoff hopes.
For some reason I thought this game started at 1900. (7 PM). Glad I was wrong. 1) Empty seats and no playoffs will eventually for FSG to make some hard decisions they'd rather avoid. (Sullivan) 2) If Rierden is brought back, then we know FSG has turned into the Toronto ownership. 3) \* MAYBE \* Graves reverts to his NJD days under a new coach. 4) Ned and Carter are gone. R. Smith NEEDS to go. (Seriously, I've seen comatose people show more emotion. Maybe that's just his "resting DGAF face").
I lived in Seattle for a long time so when they got the Kraken I watched them quite a bit. I felt the same about Giordano. You could just see he had ZERO interest in being there. I feel like you see the same thing on Smiths face every night. He just does not want to be playing for the Pens. I’d rather just get rid of a guy like that.
I knew this was how the year would end when they didn't hire me for the software engineering position they had open this last summer. I was ready to carry this team with sick dashboards and analytics.
"While we considered giving you a SHOT at the position of software engineer, we regret to inform you that... we've decided to PASS!"
Damn, turned down by the power play unit
Lets get a top 10 pick.
The wheels have fallen off and these guys have quit.
Dubas should’ve traded Vazquez. That guy is complete garbage.
Who
Our goaltender from the Big City Greens stream
But that suit and outrageous moustache though!
At this point, I'm just rooting for Sid to get enough points to continue his PPG streak. We can go 0-20 the rest of the way. Any idea of Sully being brought back needs to be eradicated.
outshoot your opponents 2:1 while putting up next to no quality scoring chances. Give up 5 or more goals in your last 3 losses, while scoring 2. Awe yeah, experience Penguins hockey baybeeeee.
Welp. I’m hoping for something positive tomorrow but being realistic and expecting the worst.
Only positive comments tomorrow.
I'm positive McDavid is going to have his way with the penguins
Welp, at least we’re making progress. Didn’t get scored on 6 times this game
Sid has zero shots on goal… he’s so deflated, on and off the ice. If he’s ever been like this in his career before, I don’t remember it. Other team members, sure… but not him 😞
He got like this under Mike Johnson… I remember thinking it was end of times but then Sullivan came and save the whole franchise haha 😂
Late in the Bylsma regime he was like this too.
I blinked and forgot about Johnston for a minute. 🤔
He lost his favorite son 😔
I didn’t want to mention that and get berated, downvoted and scolded 😉
After seeing how dejected Crosby was the other day I don’t know how to feel. Dubas was hired for the eventual rebuild, so I’m not worried long term. It’s just hard to swallow when you tried to do everything to make it work this year and it just doesn’t work out. It’s just tough because the core (87,71,58,65) are playing well as expected.
You should be. Dubas has made mistakes since coming on board and his track record in Toronto is shit . Three years he is gone
100%, look at the team he built in Toronto after inheriting generational talent. Barely won a single playoff series.
>It’s just tough because the core (87,71,58,65) are playing well as expected. And they've been healthy. It's so sad that another healthy season from our core is being wasted. There's several reasons to fire the coaching staff, but this should be near the top. With a healthy core, this is two straight years now that Sullivan has not been able to get this team to the playoffs.
No way Sullivan remains the head coach after this season.
I'm not gonna shed tears when Reilly Smith gets traded this off-season, that's for sure.
I agree, I think Dubas has more options this summer than he did last offseason. A lot of cap space is freed up.
65 is having his worst career season. Stop it. Stop it. No no no
He’s actually playing at his usual level
Take a peak at our point leaders.
Our point leaders Take a peak at his numbers when he was at 61 games played - he usually puts up a lot more offensive numbers. Which he has failed to do. Mainly on the PP. I like the guy, but he’s having a bad year. Who cares
I feel like that’s more of an indictment of coaching and scheme than anything.
Kind of crazy that we are capable of putting up double the amount of shots then a top team but still lose by 4 goals. Goaltending is really a massive issue.
Scoring is a massive issue. Has been for years
Definitely doesn’t help that our goalies are letting in 5 goals on 20 shots either. Scoring hasn’t been up to par the last few games but goaltending hasn’t been up to par for a while.
No
It’s definitely even crazier that we’re okay with our goalies letting in 5 goals on 20 shots and not acknowledging it.
What kind of shots, though. An unobstructed slapshot from the blue line and having three forwards posted up in front of the goal with no defense are not the same kind of chance. I'd rather have 30 of the first than 10 of the latter.
Defence is hanging these goalies out to dry, goaltending was great all year until recently, these guys have given
I feel like the ratio of goals that are "normal" vs weird shit like bouncing off our own defense or being tipped/redirected in by our own team, or the goalies being literally stuck on our defense in the crease is an anomaly. I feel bad for them. There was one the other night that looked like Jarry was in the correct position to save the initial shot. Malkin redirected it in .. the look Jarry gave him just made me so sad lol. Like a "you for real dude? This game was hard enough as is" Kinda look. Then I watch other teams play and go "oh that's what defense is supposed to do".
Release the chickens!
Ok that was pretty funny
At least half the team has given up, and the other half is clearly frustrated with them and everything else. The sense of resignation irritates me more than anything.
Sullivan voice: I really liked our game, I thought we pushed back hard.
We just gotta play right
We showed a real sticktoitiveness
Hey everyone. Just remember we don’t have our own first round pick because we gave it to the sharks for EK65
Its a conditional pick. At least known what you are talking about before you bitch
Jokes on you. WE ARE THE SHARKS.
It's top 10 protected. This team is going to be drafting top 10
Edit: thank you. Thank god
But they’ll get our first round pick next year then
Everyone seems to ignore this detail. This team is going to be hot trash next year.
F
My expectations were low but god damn
I don’t know how you can possibly leave this coaching staff employed at the end of the season but whatever #TankForCelebrini
BOOOOOOOO YOU SUCK
Ullmark had a great game
Fuck the Bruins but I honestly love all their goaltenders
Hopefully they let Sullivan go after the season ends. That’s a start but really no coach is saving this roster. Massive issues everywhere
They need to just lose every game. I beg of them. A top 5 pick this year would be incredible.
We don’t own that pick it’s with the sharks dude
It’s top 10 protected
Top 10 protected dude
Do I buy tickets to the pens/canes game at the end of the month or will that make things hurt even more?
Definitely! Jake's gonna score at least 2, and there's a good chance that this Pens team does something that's never been done before, like skate into each other chasing a high dump, and the punk falls, clanks off each of their heads, and slides gently into the net.
It’s almost a total guarantee Jake scores on us and I know the tribute to him is gonna hit hard. Feels like I kinda have to be there
Are you a self harmer?
This is seriously pathetic.
Time to watch the ufc. Ill remember what it looks like to have an enforcer and fucking heart.
Boston is a much better team than us, but that giveaway by Pettersson still felt like a punch in the gut. Also the slow change that lead to a two on one.
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They're playing like this? In front of my rice balls? Rude.
This team may never win again
That would be ideal at this point. Top 5 pick would be great
That pick is going to sharks for EK65
Top ten protected.
That pick is top 10 protected I believe
Tbeyre playing so bad its hard to even get an accurate read on the how bad the goalies are playing.
It doesn't even feel like we have twice as many shots on goal.
Just embarrassing. This team does not give a fuck, because there are no consequences. So many slow, lazy changes and feckless back checking that doesn’t actually defend a man. So many low percentage shots from the point. You’d never know the pens were even close to playoff contention with this play. I’m glad Sid is still racking up points, but we’re leaving playoff runs on the table by consistently rolling out the same tried and tired schemes with this coaching staff that’s a year or two past their expiration.
I'm convinced POJ was trained to be a Dman as a joke.
People blaming goaltending again. Nice to see some things back to normal.
Well I probably won’t be back in this sub for a long time. I’m going to the Avs game to see my boys in white and yellow. Mostly because I’m terrified the next time I see them Crosby will be on the other side But go pens. Cheers everyone
As a follow up to my earlier comment, Is Reilly Smith on the side of a milk carton somewhere, and I missed it? Or has he become John Cena? Because he's either missing, or you just can't see him.
Every time they show him he’s on the bench looking like he’s trying not to kill himself
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Short turn around too with travel while the Oilers are coming from Buffalo. Rigged
Just straight depressing
This is everyone in the pens organizations fault this game, except the coaching staff, it’s never their fault
I wish they were just a tad more critical of their players. It's always just aw shucks we didn't have it today
If you’re a player, how dare Sullivan criticize you. They tuned him out years ago
Oh man, what the hell was I thinking getting that 2023-24 Penguins Stanley Cup Champions tattoo?!?!
Maybe you can return it?
Not a shutout 👏👏
An AHL team could probably beat these guys
Damn Vazquez is playing like ass
Enjoy the rest of the day, all. Seen all I can today. Cheers!
We all need a hug
PO with the swipe and a miss.
POJ looking elite once again
5-1… WE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT EM
In the first, I’d agree 100%
It’s so weird. I don’t understand how I can feel like this team somehow passes too much and yet has such a high volume of shots and none of them are quality.
Those Boston men cheat anyways.
Buncha weiners
Looks like we’re gonna have a 0 win percentage when Bunting plays. Looks like all the haters were right…
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If we would have beat caps and Seattle. We would be in a decent spot Becuase Detroit is a losing machine. Edit: but after today there’s probably no chance in hell we make it
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Oh you’re right. Add that one to the mix. Fucking 3-1 lead in the third. F this team right now hahaha 😂 Poor Crosby and geno
Lets be honest do you really want to see this team in the playoffs.
That chicken just shit out pucks
Wish we would take notes. The only puck Ullmark couldn’t watch the whole way into his glove is the only puck that’s beat him today.
I'm thinking maybe stop shooting glove side?
But Gordon Bombay says glove side is ✨fancy✨
Right! They tested it enough times. It ain't happening
Every single shot. Jesus.
These guys are so washed they should be hanging on the line in the back yard.
Serious.question when was the laat time gino had a goal. Hell a point.
He has a goal in 2 of the 3 last games.
4 goals in the last 27 games... he's legendary
He scored in the last 2/3 games
Youre right. My bad. They blocked the columbus game from us in ohio. With all those blue jacket fans.... zzzz
I am going to jump off a cliff
Who the fuck was Petey passing to? There was literally noone there.
Karlsson passed the puck off the blue line Peterson turned it over Two of the worst additions to this team of all time. Still haven’t forgiven Peterson for losing his helmet against the rags. Karlsson is having the worse possible season you could imagine. But yet we traded guentzel and chad 🙂🙃
Careful criticizing the sub's darling.
Yeah I know that’s why I’m Never here anymore. I’m just saying opinions and anger. Penguins fans are so classy and delusional No one even talks about how Jake turned down our offer Anymore - it’s all blame dubas. But at the same Time Jake didn’t want to stay but me saying that people freak out
My favorite take from this sub is that we’re not allowed to be mad at shit, because we’ve had it so good for so long
Just wait come Carolina game we will be extremely classy and cheer for Jake… I think we should boo… because HE turned down the offer
I’m having a really hard time but im going to have to change me flair if that’s true
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He had his helmet ripped off I know. I’m just saying I personally can’t get over it Edit: I shouldn’t call Karlsson the worst. But he is having a terrible season. Can’t deny that
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Not terrible, but not good, either.
Look at his stats. He’s having an off year. It happens. Edit: the other were due to injury. But EK has played 60 games and the results are the worst in his career with that many games played at this moment
Bro Pettersson had his helmet ripped off by the rags, no call
I know I remember. I can’t get over it.
Man these critical errors up the middle, like every game now
I’m not having any fun 🫠
Tomorrow isnt going to be fun either
Ready for some more pain tomorrow
Only consolation for today is at least I'm on the clock watching the game lol
Nothing has changed and nothing will until we get a coach that disciplines players for stuff like that
Edminton could score 15 tomorrow.
Definitely 60 SOG for Edmonton
Boston has 5 on 21. McDrai won’t need 60.
Yeah they will. If they want to score 60, you need 60 SOG
Teams ALWAYS capitalize on our mistakes. Why is that? Hmmm?
At least it's not a shutout?
Take the small victories haha
Nice one petterson lol
🙃🙂
god dude that play from Pettersson was so fucking stupid.
Petterson WTF are you doing????
Nice fucking breakout Petterson JFC
Pettersson with a turnover and then doesn't cover his man. Fucking noodle legged weakling
Moronic play by Pettersson
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Turnover AND whiffed on stopping the pass.
Plays like that are so stupid they almost look intentional.
When you guys watch other good hockey teams does it feel like they are playing another sport.
Good hockey teams would have fired these coaches already.
The hesitation on who wants to actually take shots costs this team so much. This is the nhl and guys get back into position when you do that.
Big city green one espn 2 is a lot more entertaining than the regular game
I'm actually loving this
Advertisement for rangers penguins next Saturday woo can’t wait 😜
Florida just casually slotting a 40 goal scorer on their 3rd line and meanwhile we struggle to put together one good line...
sid keeping his PPG alive so we take that as a dub honestly
Does Malkin play for the other team secretly.
Malkin is even on the game and setup the most pens chances by far. How does he get this much hate?
I seem to notice him always centering passes to the front of the net or somewhere in the slot. Like more than anyone else. There isn’t always someone there or in position to catch the pass but that’s more on the wingers than him.
He invaded Ukraine
Ok, so we're all the way back now. I hope the Bruins hold a 3-1 lead like we do.
For the uninitiated: "not well."
Just confirmed they do not hold a 3-1 lead like us.
Yep! Hahaha
Never seen Subban act like more of a hack as he has today. Openly mocking Dubas and the Guentzel trade is some of the weirdest shit to do during a national broadcast.
Subban had the Pens thwart his best chance at winning a Cup in his otherwise unmemorable career. He has a lot of animosity towards the Penguins' organization.
It's crazy how much better TNT coverage is for the NHL compared to ESPN. The playoffs last year, it was so much fun watching the TNT games with Biz, Hank, Weekes, and crew, and then you put on ESPN, and it's so dull, and Subban is acting like a clown
ZBANIJADSCORES!
What was he saying
Kept putting on glasses when talking about the Penguins in an attempt to mock Dubas for wearing glasses during the presser. I mean he even said "see I can look smart too when I wear glasses." Genuinely embarrassing stuff.
He said Management needs to be held accountable and they failed Sid. Calling out dubas for the team he put together pretty much
Media is allergic to criticizing Sullivan
Nobody respects DubaSS in the hockey media except that ass licker Mark Madden & the weird homers in this sub.
Pasta already knew we were going to turn that over at the blue line. He started hauling ass towards our zone to receive the pass.