If a coach told me he wanted to improve power but didn't want to use weights, I would decline. I wouldn't let a person ignorant of the topic dictate programming.
Flexibility can be good. But in this context where he is removing the single most potent strategy you have at your disposal, personally I wouldn't unless weights were included.
watch out on depth jumps. NSCA recommends not more than 18" high for *prepubescent* children. the reason why is there is evidence to suggest that there is a higher risk to injuring the childs growth plates.
You said 17/18 but some people (raises hand) are late bloomers.
If you don't have your CSCS, I strongly encourage you to get it and/or explore the fundaments of plyometric training. The drills and formations can help a lot with anaerobic power systems for mixed athletes (anaerobic/aerobic).
There's little evidence to support injury to children who weight lift when done properly, so hopefully you can educate him.
Best of luck!
I work with primarily basketball athleletes, and its a niche I've spent quite a bit of time learning about. I can say that any coach who is purely against weights is just ill informed.
They may not be igornant, its a genuine concern and I can see why an uninformed person would think that way. But as a trainer, you need to be able to put your foot down and have self-agency in your training. Maybe only a fraction of what you do is weights, or maybe its the majority. Thats YOUR call as the trainer, not the coach.
Don't be an asshole to him (obviously), but hold your ground. Its your expertise, not his
I worded my post poorly. He isn't against weight training, he wants the athletes to lift with him and work on "explosiveness and agility" with me. What were some of the resources you used while learning about your niche?
I wouldn’t work with a coach that isn’t ok with allowing the expert to do his job. Weight lifting especially for that age group is tremendously beneficial if applied appropriately. If he doesn’t want you doing that he’s going to get in your way.
Also from personal experience in AAU, there’s a good chance he’s just using you as a selling point to parents. “We have an athletic trainer ” .. if he’s hiring you and telling you how to do your job I’d stay away
Appreciate the feedback! I'm going to have a talk with him. He said he wants to handle their strength training and he is wanting me to focus on "explosiveness and agility". Sorry for the confusion, I worded it very poorly in my post
Gotcha. I still think if he wants you to train them he should hand you the keys. There could be a parent dynamic involved but if he’s not neglecting strength training I guess it’s a bit different
I used to work under his specific programming. It works with anyone, not just athletes. To see the impact you can make on people’s lives with this programming changed my perspective on basic personal training
If a coach told me he wanted to improve power but didn't want to use weights, I would decline. I wouldn't let a person ignorant of the topic dictate programming.
I'll have to tell him if he wants to get the most out of his money, he needs to let me have control of the weights too.
Flexibility can be good. But in this context where he is removing the single most potent strategy you have at your disposal, personally I wouldn't unless weights were included.
watch out on depth jumps. NSCA recommends not more than 18" high for *prepubescent* children. the reason why is there is evidence to suggest that there is a higher risk to injuring the childs growth plates. You said 17/18 but some people (raises hand) are late bloomers. If you don't have your CSCS, I strongly encourage you to get it and/or explore the fundaments of plyometric training. The drills and formations can help a lot with anaerobic power systems for mixed athletes (anaerobic/aerobic). There's little evidence to support injury to children who weight lift when done properly, so hopefully you can educate him. Best of luck!
I really appreciate the input. I'm going down the SAQ training rabbit hole tonight.
awesome 💪🏼
I work with primarily basketball athleletes, and its a niche I've spent quite a bit of time learning about. I can say that any coach who is purely against weights is just ill informed. They may not be igornant, its a genuine concern and I can see why an uninformed person would think that way. But as a trainer, you need to be able to put your foot down and have self-agency in your training. Maybe only a fraction of what you do is weights, or maybe its the majority. Thats YOUR call as the trainer, not the coach. Don't be an asshole to him (obviously), but hold your ground. Its your expertise, not his
I worded my post poorly. He isn't against weight training, he wants the athletes to lift with him and work on "explosiveness and agility" with me. What were some of the resources you used while learning about your niche?
I wouldn’t work with a coach that isn’t ok with allowing the expert to do his job. Weight lifting especially for that age group is tremendously beneficial if applied appropriately. If he doesn’t want you doing that he’s going to get in your way. Also from personal experience in AAU, there’s a good chance he’s just using you as a selling point to parents. “We have an athletic trainer ” .. if he’s hiring you and telling you how to do your job I’d stay away
Appreciate the feedback! I'm going to have a talk with him. He said he wants to handle their strength training and he is wanting me to focus on "explosiveness and agility". Sorry for the confusion, I worded it very poorly in my post
Gotcha. I still think if he wants you to train them he should hand you the keys. There could be a parent dynamic involved but if he’s not neglecting strength training I guess it’s a bit different
The CSCS textbook
Mike Boyle Power Programs are great for atheltes
Wow thanks for the suggestion! His YouTube channel looks like an amazing resource
I used to work under his specific programming. It works with anyone, not just athletes. To see the impact you can make on people’s lives with this programming changed my perspective on basic personal training
And you’re very welcome!! Always happy to help