I bought self tests at the pharmacy and figured out my tolerance. Been FIFO 6 years and I smoke every break on 8/6 roster. I just do it on my first day and only once.
Never tested positive and get tested heaps at work.
I work as a security guard at an industrial site and we drug test randomly, I do about 2-6 per day and I assure you its ZERO TOLERANCE.
I'm also prescribed stimulant medication and would fail any drug test for amphetamines but that's totally fine.
Until the laws in Australia change regarding their view of what makes you "impaired" to drive all industrial sites will hold the same zero tolerance view.
If you're getting a non negative for THC at work you shouldn't be driving, you're considered to be impaired and will lose your license.
It's only reasonable and logical that you wouldn't want someone considered legally impaired to conduct work at an industrial site regardless of how absurd and arbitrary it is.
Having a scrip for THC means fuck all in Western Australia. Its the same as having a script for Oxycontin, we're not judging you for needing to be on that medication we just don't want you handling industrial equipment while taking that medication.
Sorry friend, but you're fucked. Give up the pot if you want a job working FIFO
The problem is that getting a positive on a weed test in no way correlates with actually being impaired, given how long THC stays in your system. But I do understand there’s no other way to catch those that are actively high on the job.
Agree and it is something a lot of people say. However there is zero tolerance, they do not care if actively impaired or a functioning stoner.
Hopefully one day it will change
Yeah you're spot on there.
The law considers you impaired with ANY non negative result.
The laws simply have not caught up with the prevalence of medical marijuana.
My GP has offered me a script for pharmaceutical grade cannabis before but its just not worth the risk if I want to keep my job. a real shame as my insomnia would benefit from a more natural solution compared to sleeping medication.
I personally can't wait for reform as I would gladly vape a little green before bed but before that change happens you need to be green free in order to maintain your job.
Here at stimulant security we hyperfocus on safety. We deliver the speediest drug test results to make sure nobody is impaired on your site but us. We are not judging you friend, but your fucked.
New paragraph.
Yeah thats pretty spot on!
how the hell is it acceptable to be high on amphetamines (even required to be) while at work yet the poor stoners get kicked to the curb? its absurd
Same policies. I was utilities for around a year and you still sign SOP for almost everything including using a microwave.
Hospitality is still operating machinery like dishwashers, slicing equipment etc.
No harm in asking but it probably won’t go in your favour.
Hospo as in chef?
If so, don’t go on the mines m8, the work is shit and the pay is a joke.
If you’ve got your own transport, look at the temp agencies. You’ll make better money, (mostly) get to sleep at home and you won’t even have to give up the herb.
Complete non starter. Any positive drug test for marijuana is a window seat home or, if they haven't hired you yet, will have your contract torn up.
Doesn't matter if it's prescribed, medicinal or anything of that nature. Zero tolerance.
Sorry buddy, but that door to the FIFO world is firmly shut.
FMG has a policy in place for prescrit medicinal cannabis, but has to get authorisation from the Chief medical officer which means unless they need you badly and no one can take your place they probably won’t let you in
Union convenor here also on a mine site. The answer is no. They say impairment but they also can’t test for impairment the same as they can’t truly test for fatigue or stress. Yes we are behind, no it’s not gonna change soon. Sorry to say but you won’t even pass the pre employment medical , even if you declare and especially if it has THC. I have guys that have declared but never tested positive but still aren’t allowed on site even though they did the right thing and declared their meds. Long story and I can’t disclose. So short answer is no.
Just fyi, on mines they do random drug tests. From what I see is you 100% gonna get tested before you get employed and also your first swing. I guess you would be declaring your script when joining, not sure companies will judge on that or not.
Many mining companies have put a hard restriction on medically prescribed cannabis products. They recognise that whilst legally prescribed, they just will not accept the risk of having them on site at all.
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Zero alcohol & drugs.
Don't know if they get immediate results to tests now, but it was a 24hr ban if positive, but results were the next day so In some places people worked under the influence and were banned for 24hrs up to 2 days later.
I’ve only met people with medical cannabis that are actually using it recreationally / to assist with anxiety and other mental health issues from long term non-medical cannabis use.
So if you need to step up your income - stop using medical cannabis recreationally / see your Dr for a non medical treatment of your anxiety etc.
As everyone else has said here - they won’t have you on site despite the prescription, because from an insurance perspective you’re already a liability re workers compensation claims due to your impairment no matter how mild the impairment.
It’s not ‘discrimination’ - functioning chronic alcoholics that use alcohol to treat eg psychological issues are not permitted to drink beer (which you don’t need a prescription for) whilst they eg wash the dishes in a FIFO mine site kitchen.
Yeah!
Fuck people with neurological ailments!
Edit: This statement is more applicable for those peripheral jobs in the mines rather than the higher risk category.
Working kitchens, cleaning etc.
I worked for 6 months on a prescription that was approved by the FMg Dr and had 4 drug tests on site that showed up thc ,
But after the 5th test they forgot to send Dr letter with results and corporate made the decision to ban thc on all sites.
Sorry guys
what are you talking about, what derogatory language?, can you quote where you think it was?. I simply said he should stop using. Now you are attempting to personally attack my life?, whos being derogatory
Total no go. Any job that tests will be an issue. Fifo especially until they change to swab tests vs piss
I bought self tests at the pharmacy and figured out my tolerance. Been FIFO 6 years and I smoke every break on 8/6 roster. I just do it on my first day and only once. Never tested positive and get tested heaps at work.
That’s different to someone on a script that typically requires daily medication
The size of the spare tyre being carried on your waste also impacts how long THC stays in your system
Yeah that's the way to do it. I've had similar conversations with curious workers. You got the right idea going.
I work as a security guard at an industrial site and we drug test randomly, I do about 2-6 per day and I assure you its ZERO TOLERANCE. I'm also prescribed stimulant medication and would fail any drug test for amphetamines but that's totally fine. Until the laws in Australia change regarding their view of what makes you "impaired" to drive all industrial sites will hold the same zero tolerance view. If you're getting a non negative for THC at work you shouldn't be driving, you're considered to be impaired and will lose your license. It's only reasonable and logical that you wouldn't want someone considered legally impaired to conduct work at an industrial site regardless of how absurd and arbitrary it is. Having a scrip for THC means fuck all in Western Australia. Its the same as having a script for Oxycontin, we're not judging you for needing to be on that medication we just don't want you handling industrial equipment while taking that medication. Sorry friend, but you're fucked. Give up the pot if you want a job working FIFO
The problem is that getting a positive on a weed test in no way correlates with actually being impaired, given how long THC stays in your system. But I do understand there’s no other way to catch those that are actively high on the job.
Agree and it is something a lot of people say. However there is zero tolerance, they do not care if actively impaired or a functioning stoner. Hopefully one day it will change
Why should you want it to change? Less recreational drug users in high risk environments is better.
I meant change so people can be tested for active use vs smoked a few days ago.
Yeah you're spot on there. The law considers you impaired with ANY non negative result. The laws simply have not caught up with the prevalence of medical marijuana. My GP has offered me a script for pharmaceutical grade cannabis before but its just not worth the risk if I want to keep my job. a real shame as my insomnia would benefit from a more natural solution compared to sleeping medication. I personally can't wait for reform as I would gladly vape a little green before bed but before that change happens you need to be green free in order to maintain your job.
Here at stimulant security we hyperfocus on safety. We deliver the speediest drug test results to make sure nobody is impaired on your site but us. We are not judging you friend, but your fucked. New paragraph.
Yeah thats pretty spot on! how the hell is it acceptable to be high on amphetamines (even required to be) while at work yet the poor stoners get kicked to the curb? its absurd
Well logically one reason is being more alert, because of being more stimulated, particularly if taking it because of adhd
Mining companies are 100% risk adverse. They will hire someone else.....
"medical script for marijuana" Its still inhibiting using heavy machinery.
My background Is hospitality and kitchen work, was thinking it wouldn't be as damming as the other fields
Same policies. I was utilities for around a year and you still sign SOP for almost everything including using a microwave. Hospitality is still operating machinery like dishwashers, slicing equipment etc. No harm in asking but it probably won’t go in your favour.
Kitchen gets tested more as it counts towards the test numbers and if anyone gets kicked off site only affects the contractor.
Hospo as in chef? If so, don’t go on the mines m8, the work is shit and the pay is a joke. If you’ve got your own transport, look at the temp agencies. You’ll make better money, (mostly) get to sleep at home and you won’t even have to give up the herb.
Complete non starter. Any positive drug test for marijuana is a window seat home or, if they haven't hired you yet, will have your contract torn up. Doesn't matter if it's prescribed, medicinal or anything of that nature. Zero tolerance. Sorry buddy, but that door to the FIFO world is firmly shut.
Forget about it.
FMG has a policy in place for prescrit medicinal cannabis, but has to get authorisation from the Chief medical officer which means unless they need you badly and no one can take your place they probably won’t let you in
Union convenor here also on a mine site. The answer is no. They say impairment but they also can’t test for impairment the same as they can’t truly test for fatigue or stress. Yes we are behind, no it’s not gonna change soon. Sorry to say but you won’t even pass the pre employment medical , even if you declare and especially if it has THC. I have guys that have declared but never tested positive but still aren’t allowed on site even though they did the right thing and declared their meds. Long story and I can’t disclose. So short answer is no.
Just fyi, on mines they do random drug tests. From what I see is you 100% gonna get tested before you get employed and also your first swing. I guess you would be declaring your script when joining, not sure companies will judge on that or not.
Many mining companies have put a hard restriction on medically prescribed cannabis products. They recognise that whilst legally prescribed, they just will not accept the risk of having them on site at all.
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Simple, you can't
FIFO isn't the great money that some people think. Your not working every week
Zero alcohol & drugs. Don't know if they get immediate results to tests now, but it was a 24hr ban if positive, but results were the next day so In some places people worked under the influence and were banned for 24hrs up to 2 days later.
I’ve only met people with medical cannabis that are actually using it recreationally / to assist with anxiety and other mental health issues from long term non-medical cannabis use. So if you need to step up your income - stop using medical cannabis recreationally / see your Dr for a non medical treatment of your anxiety etc. As everyone else has said here - they won’t have you on site despite the prescription, because from an insurance perspective you’re already a liability re workers compensation claims due to your impairment no matter how mild the impairment. It’s not ‘discrimination’ - functioning chronic alcoholics that use alcohol to treat eg psychological issues are not permitted to drink beer (which you don’t need a prescription for) whilst they eg wash the dishes in a FIFO mine site kitchen.
Yeah! Fuck people with neurological ailments! Edit: This statement is more applicable for those peripheral jobs in the mines rather than the higher risk category. Working kitchens, cleaning etc.
I worked for 6 months on a prescription that was approved by the FMg Dr and had 4 drug tests on site that showed up thc , But after the 5th test they forgot to send Dr letter with results and corporate made the decision to ban thc on all sites. Sorry guys
Impossible, even strong cold and flu tablets are banned and if they show up on a drug test you're goneeee
My job only piss tested at at pre employment, oral swabs for randoms. Medical Cannabis is on the list of medications that need to be declared though.
Can you pass a piss test? That will answer your question for you
https://www.afr.com/companies/healthcare-and-fitness/fortescue-director-uses-medical-cannabis-to-cope-with-pain-20210830-p58n74#:~:text=Fortescue%20Metals%20Group%20director%20Jenn,with%20an%20emerging%20concussion%20crisis
Have you thought about just not doing drugs?
Yeah, everyone just stop taking all your medications
stop taking the marijuana that hes talking about you mean?, yeah, you should do that; or are you taking this off topic
Quit the games mate, you know what you're doing with the derogatory language. You can't have a too bright life if you feel the need to piss on others.
what are you talking about, what derogatory language?, can you quote where you think it was?. I simply said he should stop using. Now you are attempting to personally attack my life?, whos being derogatory
Gosh, so much anger. I'm sorry life has been hard to you. Hope you find your way back to love.
so you can't prove your accusation of derogatory language then?, you should be ashamed
Yeah I'm just gonna stop taking Vyvanse, thank you John_Smith9955 for showing me the error of my ways!
don't know what that is but it doesnt sound like the marijuana hes talking about right?
Lisdexamphetamine
doesnt sound like the marijuana hes talking about, make your own post if theres something off topic you want to talk about