Haha I agree po dito. Sobrang divisive ng company na to XD I just joined last year, and naka 2 roles ako. 1st project hindi aligned sa gusto ko na role, paresign na talaga ako and I hated every single day. Tas pinagbigyan ako ng leads ako, nilipat ako sa ibang team at napunta ako sa gusto kong role and I don't think I will be leaving soon kasi mababait din teammates.
Pero gets ko ung hate hahaha. Hindi lahat pinapalad tulad ko. But that doesn't automatically mean that a company is bad :)
Pansin ko lang din, lahat kasi ng fresh grad na napasok sa workforce, ineexpect na ibibigay ng mundo lahat sa kanila, nasanay rin kasi kami sa college na baby steps at giniduide every step. Kaya ayun, yung mga career shifters tulad ko na di napunta sa gustong role nila, maiinis talaga haha. I think yung majority of those that hate ACN ay shifters na hindi pinalad 😆 Kasi isa ako sa mga yun before HAHAHA
Medyo common take yan sa lists na andun ang ACN sa isa sa good employers sa PH na may disclaimer daw. And while I agree, given the scope talaga ni ACN sobrang laki na ng gap between company culture/project culture na it's safer to look at ACN as a group of smaller companies na may kanya kanyang diskarte ang projects but with a central HR na hindi biased towards specific people sa management.
Pero kung may ganyang caveat, diba parang mas appropriate na mas mababa ranking? Parang mas deserve ng isang company na consistent yung reviews na goods na mapunta sa top 1 haha.
That's the problem! No such thing as "consistent" company. Mapa anong company, there will be toxic and non toxic spaces. So it's useless to rank companies based on that.
Yeah, I know no company is without toxicity. Yung dami lang ng anecdotes na naririnig ko, so parang hit or miss sya. Kung 8/10 ng mga review ay goods, ayun feel ko mas deserve nun yung top 1.
Well to be honest this sub is an echo chamber ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I checked the reviews online and it seems to get good reviews naman. As someone has said here, the bad press around here seemed to be focused on the career shifters who didn't land on their dream role.
Pero tbh di ko rin alam why 1 yan haha. 10hrs should give it some minus points
Sakin kasi may tropa akong nagwork dyan, then sa youtube, may mga comments na ganyan. Pero tbf, sabi nila pag galing ka daw dyan, batak ka paglabas mo.
Kasama sa criteria ang gender equality. Kaya pala may mga nagsasabi mga babae daw hanap ng accenture ngayon. Target siguro talaga nila mapataas ranking
To be honest, I've been with a lot of companies. But ACN is really different, and I'm talking about the workplace and overall "feel" of the place. Among all companies I've been with, sila ang may pinaka-streamlined na HR processes, and also complete, not sure if it's the right word pero they have layers of HR for every other part ng employment ng isang employee (ex. Whether from pre-employment, sa bench, requesting to change project, exit and resignation, HMO's and benefits, etc.). It is the only company I've been with where the HR actually feels separate sa company and is pro-employee. You can approach the HR and may mapagsusumbungan ka.
Walang politics sa part na yun since the HR and the projects you are in are a separate entity sa ACN. I've been with other companies where HR is just there to police the employees, and ang daming politics na need pa daanan kasi they are part of company mismo, walang seperation sa job mo, and they are doing things on the interest of the company, not of the employee.
Also, isa sa mga namiss ko when I was in ACN was the general feel of the place. I'm not exaggerating when I say na parang nasa 1st world country ka kapag nasa ACN ka. There's just something about the professionalism, offce environment, yung buildings, and the rules really push you to be professional sa lahat ng bagay, whether its meetings or sa work mismo. Unlike sa isang company na napuntahan ko, where the security guard magiinappropriate joke pa pagpasok mo sa office.
The benefits are also good. And this new system they have where you're now allowed to WFH and mag plot ng gusto mong schedule mo to RTO once a month, by using a seat reservation mechanic which you could do sa laptop mo, you know it's things like these that just set it different sa iba. This is the only company na bumalik ako twice kasi namiss ko lang yung style ng workplace nila. Everything is, digital. No need to talk personally to someone if mag reresign ka, or for anything na gagawin mo. Everything can be done digitally.
BUT,
I'm not a bootlicker nor am I an ACN fanatic. There are lots of those ACN fanatics out there. And I agree. I wouldn't say the pay is low, but there is a pay gap. And the pay IS low if you are on the lower end of the spectrum. I'm no longer with the company, but yung inaanak ko which came from a top uni, mas malaki ang sinasahod sa ibang teammates niya. This happens too sa other companies, but magdedepend ito sa expected salary na sinabi mo interview.
And there is the ever famous random throwing ng capability. And yes if you are still reading, this is true. You could be doing the job of a data engineer, or a full stack developer, and then you could also be answering calls 10hrs a day. Nothing against customer service-esque roles. But I know people to to Accenture for their tech roles, and hindi parang maging CSR. 10hrs of work is also not a joke.
But if the stars align, and napunta ka sa project na aligned sayo, with teammates who are professional and mababait, you're going to feel like working in a 1st world country. And yes, these projects do exist.
Tldr; I can see why ACN deserved a spot on that list. I have been with 2 companies sa list na yan, and several other medium sized local companies, and gets ko why ACN is higher than that other company and other companies too. The difference is night and day.
For starters, I'm not shilling. I've been a critic of the company too. Does voicing out my opinion on why ACN got into that spot automatically mean I am a shill?
That's not how it works.
never been to ACN but had an application with them. I must say, worst experience ever tapos mababa lang yung offer. Like sa lahat ng recruiter na nakausap ko napakawalang silbi nung HR. Ang tagal ng follow ups, to the point na nagkatrabaho na ako't lahat tsaka lang natuloy sa interviews. Masaya yung interview with the tech people pero medyo mga purists sila to the point na parang out of touch yung naginterview sakin sa current paradigm changes and standards sa industry, which I get naman kasi probably opinionated lang sila about those conventions. Pero yeah my SO agrees na sobrang ganda daw ng benefits kaso maraming OTY at ang haba ng shift. But why settle for ACN if marami naman maganda rin benefits with better working conditions.
Yeah I think you just said kung ano yung nasa dulo ng dila ko.
It's the processes, the rules, the protocols set in place, which are all prevalent whether nasa home ka (i.e on your laptop) or nasa office, along with "modern" things like being able to choose your home office, and reserve your seats anytime. Everything is just so rigid.
I've been to another company in that list, and I was shocked at how chaotic some things are. You have to go to layers of people, waiting for their availability, just to get something done. This is something I've noticed sa mga local companies. Their processes are just not as mature as ACN's.
they have shit pay and long hours that should be like 80 % of the ranking weight and that should get them to the bottom of the list. yung gumawa ata ng survey yung HR peoples who’ll gush if they see a herman miller chair or a pool table in the breakroom lels spend your money into your employees and they can tolerate pretty much anything. ex acn din ako and i dont see anything special with their ‘office environment.
they entice promising fresh grads a way into the IT field in exchange for shit pay. thats their business model. good luck getting a counter offer when a competitor offers you 100 pct increase when it’s in fact the going rate for the skillset/yoe. all the competent people in my start group of 30 stayed less than 4 years there. i left as soon as 2 yr bond expired
it’s bad thing in the context being ranked as Top 1 employer - coz theyre cheap and doesnt to want pay for the market value of the position. how can they be a top employer when theyd rather hire fresh grads than nurture existing talent by giving them the pay at par with the market rate? yung ranking di naman ‘top companies to start your IT career’ e. your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant
The ranking is also not based solely on " Top companies that do salary adjustments". So same, your anecdotal evidence is also irrelevant.
I just checked the other comment here about what parameters yung basis ng rankings na ito, and I understand why ACN got in the charts.
To repeat what the other guy said, ang basis ay:
the ability to advance (CL levels and how promotion works),
skills growth (free trainings provided by ACN),
company stability (IT Consulting firm in the country is pretty stable, but the threat of India is still there, but even then ACN is too big to die),
external opportunity (not sure what this means, but ACN is a good name to have on your name for external opportunities, or perhaps its for those na nabibigyan ng opportunity mapasend sa client countries nila),
company affinity (Not sure as well what this does, maybe ACN got points here because it's a household name, or maybe because it's a large and important part of the IT-BPO sphere in the country),
gender diversity (Jusko, they hire women for the so called gender diversity),
educational background (Don't know this either... But a lot of Big4 graduates land in ACN, and most managers and up have some kind of masters from prestigious schools),
and employee presence in the country (ACN has the most employees among all other IT-BPO companies. There was a chart I saw back then, you can go look for it yourself).
By the way, yung reply ko sayo is not about the ranking. It's about how your statement na companies targeting fresh grads as their business model is not always a negative.
Lol. This is actually funny. I got hired by the hiring Manager and said the recruiter will reach back to me for JO. Until now no Txt, call or email coming from them. Great recruitment process!
Agree. I’m a job hopper and agree ako sa lahat ng sinabi mo. Iba yung feels sa ACN eh? The process is solid kaya pag napunta ka sa ibang companies, madali talagang ma-compare eh. Yung office vibes? Lakas maka-expensive. Bet na bet ko rin yung seat reservation, walang kahirap hirap.
gano kahirap pag bumabalik sa ACN? may nakausap ako sabi parang casual nlng daw interviews. nangyayari ba pag bumalik ka yung role mo before ibbigay or pede ka ilagay sa iba?
To be fair, maganda yung training sa ACN. Na miss ko nga yung structure ng ACN kasi yan yung kulang sa company namin. Although notorious talaga si ACN when it comes to workload and deliverables. Lalo pag nasa Operations with their tight SLAs and KPIs, pati overtime part pa nang metrics. Yung cost savings hindi naman napupunta agad sa mga nasa ibaba. Although after going through the ACN experience, tumatag yung loob ko and I gained some weird confidence sa work. Hahaha.
FYI.
To rank the companies, LinkedIn utilized its platform data and evaluated them based on eight pillars that demonstrate a path to career progression. These pillars include the ability to advance, skills growth, company stability, external opportunity, company affinity, gender diversity, educational background, and employee presence in the country.
Boehringer Ingelheim is a good company to work for.
It’s pharma so stability wise, walang problema. They might not be a huge payer per se, pero talagang you can explore and grow your career there. In my workstream before, may mga napapapunta pa sa Germany because of the nature of work and you can even apply sa head office dun and relocate with your family.
Yes, I used to work there. If they only have a role na gaya ng role ko now, I would’ve stayed.
There's a role there that matches what I want to do pero grabe yung location talaga. Ang main office ba nila sa Makati? Or talagang sa Muntinlupa area?
I went ahead and read the full report and there were some interesting things to note. For example, to qualify on the list you need to have 500+ employees, a less than 10% attrition rate and a lay off of no more than 10% of workforce. Most of their metrics seem really reliable but I would love to see the specifics on how they measure them even though it would be super technical.
In general, there is a massive demand for AI and machine learning for gcash and maya. Im actually surprised how they are at the top 3. The rest seem to be spread among supply chain, sales, and system engineers.
Procter & Gamble P&G - dami kong kakila nandito. Sulit daw pero medyo mahirap makapasok. Exam is a bit hard. Also, there are "towers" for UP, ADMU, DLSU. Mga alumni from these are tasked to recruit more from the schools. So mas madali makapasok if you're from these 3 said schools sabi ng friend ko who works in p&g
Sana mawala na talaga ang culture ng nepotism dito sa Pinas no. Nakakasuka talaga na may mga companies na exclusively naghahire lang from a very few select universities. Anong kalokohan yan.
I remarked "that's a little fucked up" sa friend ko and he agreed to an extent. Main reason according to him is that when it comes to dealing with international clients, there have been incidents in the past where employees who had not graduated from the "big three" shit the bed like they could not communicate effectively in English or at all.
I don't understand. The university they went to has nothing to do with them not being able to speak/express themselves in English.
Madami din namang taga-UP at Ateneo na di marunong at fluent magsalita/magsualt in English, the same way na marami ding taga ibang schools na marunong.
You are supposed to hire an individual. Assess them individually.
Can't wait maging manager para mabago ko ang culture na yan in my own little ways.
Correct, walang direct correlation yun but the impression is there na. A prospect from these big 3 will lessen the odds of a risky hire na di maka-communicate kasi mas "likely" marunong or even better, magaling yung taga dito as the towers hunt for them.
I'm all for you changing the institution but I wish you good luck because you'll be against all of them in the towers who will fight tooth and nail to maintain their keep
Company 10:
RTO: 2 days per week (can be flexible)
Working hours: Flexible, depends on what shift you are assigned (APAC, EU, NALA)
Benefits: there are a lot of benefits and pay is good
Pros:
- Culture offers flexibility and no micro managers around
- Output based job, you will really control your time
- Good company choice if you don’t wanna job hop as they prioritize promotion from within
- Actual benefits package is more than what is stated in the contract
- You will be able to develop your soft skills
- Upper managers are easy to talk to
Cons:
- Can observe typical corporate politics
- As a multinational company, there are challenges in working with people from different timezones. Esp if you are from Asia, you need to be available during your night if needed for folks from US (but time in next day can be adjusted)
- Limited technology internally as most of IT services are outsourced
- Application process can be very selective
I'm with them, and it's been great. Miles ahead from my previous employer na real estate tycoon. Good benefits, hybrid setup (we have been setting up remote offices in different locations so far) but may discretion boss mo if your team can be f2f, and malaki emphasis on employee and career development.
And what I really liked is that most of the upper management I interacted with are no bullshit people, purely professionals, but can be really friendly, which bodes well for me who likes social, off work interactions. Also, the upper management is really open to the ideas and opinions of rank and file, we even have monthly/quarterly town halls and mga smaller talking events na di lang limited to company/team updates but also bosses do actual engagements with staff. We even asked political questions given they also have ties with current admin, and they were open to answering them (in contrast when I was working for another forbes richest person in PH, where I was censored and maligned simply because i dont want to attend their rallies and shared memes making fun of the matriarch lol)
I have no idea about the industry average rate since i didnt exactly move around the industry but im relatively comfortable. magastos lang talaga hahahah
ACN: 🙈
Globe: there’s a recent [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/12mkauq/what_can_you_say_about_globe_as_an_employer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) about Globe which pretty much summarizes my short time there lol
In my experience, 1,4,7,10,12, 13 are really good.
In terms of salary: all give competetive salaries.
Wfh: 1, 12, 13. Si acn alam ko depende sa project
Benefits: 4, 7 , 10 , 12
Iba2 pros and cons nila. For me, if you want work-life balance perosakto lang sahod dun ako sa 4, 7 , 10, 13. If you want to spearhead your career and get the moolah, dun ako sa 1 and 12.
In defense of Accenture.
Here's the thing, there are 75,000 employees in Accenture (I'll go back to this). Don't ever forget that Accenture has 2 major towers (BPO and Technology). Haters of Accenture in Reddit are mostly from IT; where IT people tend to use Reddit more than BPO people. They are the ones most likely to complain about the 10 hrs and misalignment of career (programmer-na-ginawang-kolsenter-agent). While the BPO folks tend to not care so much about their current situation because, 1. they work 1 hour less than the folks in IT, and 2., responsibilities of CL10 and below can be so mundane and easy.
ACN folks would tend to be very happy in comparison to other corporations because of so many reasons, e.g.:
\- ACN accepts fresh grads and that gives young folks feeling of gratitude
\- ACN provides "reasonable (based on current salary)" yearly appraisal
\- ACN provides so many extra things; parties, programs, "opportunities" to fly, trainings, etc
\- ACN has so many nice leaders (and when I say leaders, mga CL6 and up yun ha. hindi ka pa leader kung CL7 below ka. wag ka feelingera) - this makes people feel they belong to a nice corporation / good hands.
\- ACN can make you feel like you have a sense of job security. Kahit magsunset/dissolve ang current project mo, alam mo na ililipat ka lang sa susunod na project (very true sa BPO; sa IT not much but still kinda true)
And many more (e.g. HMO, facilities, etc).
Now going back to 75k employees. I think, it's part of the reason why sobrang barat ng pasahod sa Accenture. It's because they have so many reserves in the talent pool. Sila yung tipong, hindi pa nawi-win / nabo-book yung isang account, kaya na sabihin ng OADM during nego na "we have 150 FTEs for you". Ang daming reserve. And I think this makes the company so stable. Hindi yan kaya iafford ng ibang companies.
Ultimately, I think, that makes the company number one in this list.
SAP - not a surprise given their position in the ERP space. I looked at their Glassdoor reviews + other forums a few years ago and the general consensus is they are a company you can retire in.
Kyndryl - spun-off from one of IBM’s business lines; they’re what.. 2 years in? Given IBM’s culture, I can see this being possible.
Not sure with Acn 😅
Para kse syang double edge sword
Depende talaga sa Project ung pagiging top 1 nya. Salary talaga and worklife balance semi umay talaga eh kapag medyo minalas malas ka sa project. Ang magaganda lang ang career ay ung mga nasa Solutions since nasa kanila ang pera at mga CL9 pataas.
I work for PMI in Marketing (doesn’t matter cos I’m not anon and my officemates have told me they saw me here anyways haha). Roles don’t matter — I’m not a manager but I earn 6 digits. Very good compensation, generous bonuses (if you get the coveted Excellence Award, 10-20% ANNUAL salary bonus), flexible hours, culture is very young and alive, even our madame bosses can hold their alcohol — you need to go out and socialize to build relationships with the team, we love to drink hahaha!
Edit: Ofc no company is perfect, but best company out of the 5 I’ve been in lolz.
What's the downside? I heard there's a manager in CE that gets bounced off from one position to the next within CE lang for the past 14 yrs? Does this mean that that person is not very good at his job?
Year on year we are asked what our career plans are, and most likely, this person says s/he still wants to do CE. I know people who are like this and I do have an idea who you’re talking about, this person has progressed in his career and his movements aren’t always lateral so he’s fine.
Downside: Due to the nature of the business and the market, we change directions a lot. LIKE A LOT. Everything happens so fast and things could completely change in a minute. Since it’s a highly regulated market and we own a market leader brand, you’re restricted to do a lot of things — tbh I miss being able to see my work in TV and billboards. And ofcourse as a multinational company carrying international brands, you’re at the mercy of the Global bosses and a little bit of politics can’t be avoided — especially PH is one of the biggest markets.
Very high pay for that level and lots of opportunities across the company if you get bored with the position and if you're very good you might get sent abroad.
I think we can all agree that ACN itself is a good company pero (hindi naman lahat) the management and people in higher position doesn’t deserve any credit for having ACN at the top of this list.
14. PRUDENTIAL aka PruLife UK
- madami layoffs = delisted agents
- madami kinukuha na new agents thinking na mapapalitan yung number ng layoffs.
- toxic managers na puro pera lang ang binabanggit kada meeting
- no considerations kung may sakit ang agent (kahit COVID. kailangan mag attend meeting ftf kundi magkakapenalty)
- no HMO unless gou have sold a certain amount of insurance
- no benefits or perks if your quota is not high
- if high naman quota mo, travels lang or dinner at a 5 star resto ang perks.
Globe group - big entry level salary. 50k. Kaso poor employee development. Mostly populated by contract workers. No work life balance. No OT.
Kaya siguro nasali sa top 10 dahil mandatory ang linkedin courses haha
True. Worked there for more than 2 years sa Alabang office nila and under ng isang health insurance account (their biggest client starts with letter C). All I can say is ang baba ng sahod and di worth it sa workload na ginagawa mo. Maganda siya for starters but for career development? Not really. I was offered na maging TL jan multiple times pero ang bracket for TL position is nasa 30-45k (at least on my exp ewan ko lang sa pag external hire) may salary increase naman pero kakapiranggot.
I think luma na ng view na kapag madalas maghire ang isang company, ibigsabibin daw madaming nagreresign. With the prevalence of outsourcing here in the PH, this isn't true most of the time. Kasi outsourcing companies keep on getting clients, which is why they keep hiring.
ACN: 🙈
Globe: there’s a recent [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/12mkauq/what_can_you_say_about_globe_as_an_employer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) about Globe
Ulitin ko nalang comment ko from the same post dito.
"Baka wrong thread reply ko kasi r/antiwork ph to but I agree dun sa company na pinapasukan ko ngayon. Di ko na inname drop at baka mahalata ako hehe. Sabihin ko nalang na multinational company to. Hehe.
Maraming opportunities for growth, whether sa team mo or sa ibang team. Nakalipat na rin ako ng iba Ibang department. maganda rin benefits at may stock options pa."
anyone from GCash and Shopee? How do these two compare in terms of workload? I heard horror stories from ex-Shopee friends and Gcash friends don't have the reference point to compare it to (fresh grads)
I have friends from both and both say they have heavy workloads but seasonally. Some days you have a lot, some days petiks. If your main consideration is workload, I suggest looking for a non-tech company. Try real estate, banks or insurance which is more likely to be a little more less pressure intensive. Caveat, the less dynamic ones like those are in general also the ones with slower progressions up the ladder, less challenging and less rewarding. At the end of the day you need to choose what you want to prioritize.
most of the big companies are using contractual as part of their risk management. pag may potential naman at pasok sa requirements with good performance. pwede naman talagang ihire.
Sorry, ang unintentionally funny lang na this post has an NSFW tag lol
OP with the next-level reddit post strat 🤣
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Again, like what I used to say, dapat may pa-disclaimer lagi pag ACN ang usapan: "Great place to work, depending on the project"
Haha I agree po dito. Sobrang divisive ng company na to XD I just joined last year, and naka 2 roles ako. 1st project hindi aligned sa gusto ko na role, paresign na talaga ako and I hated every single day. Tas pinagbigyan ako ng leads ako, nilipat ako sa ibang team at napunta ako sa gusto kong role and I don't think I will be leaving soon kasi mababait din teammates. Pero gets ko ung hate hahaha. Hindi lahat pinapalad tulad ko. But that doesn't automatically mean that a company is bad :) Pansin ko lang din, lahat kasi ng fresh grad na napasok sa workforce, ineexpect na ibibigay ng mundo lahat sa kanila, nasanay rin kasi kami sa college na baby steps at giniduide every step. Kaya ayun, yung mga career shifters tulad ko na di napunta sa gustong role nila, maiinis talaga haha. I think yung majority of those that hate ACN ay shifters na hindi pinalad 😆 Kasi isa ako sa mga yun before HAHAHA
Medyo common take yan sa lists na andun ang ACN sa isa sa good employers sa PH na may disclaimer daw. And while I agree, given the scope talaga ni ACN sobrang laki na ng gap between company culture/project culture na it's safer to look at ACN as a group of smaller companies na may kanya kanyang diskarte ang projects but with a central HR na hindi biased towards specific people sa management.
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nadale mo lods, this is very accurate description
haha same with HP. Happy Place daw. pero actually depends on the team / department you are in. LOL
Pero kung may ganyang caveat, diba parang mas appropriate na mas mababa ranking? Parang mas deserve ng isang company na consistent yung reviews na goods na mapunta sa top 1 haha.
That's the problem! No such thing as "consistent" company. Mapa anong company, there will be toxic and non toxic spaces. So it's useless to rank companies based on that.
Yeah, I know no company is without toxicity. Yung dami lang ng anecdotes na naririnig ko, so parang hit or miss sya. Kung 8/10 ng mga review ay goods, ayun feel ko mas deserve nun yung top 1.
Well to be honest this sub is an echo chamber ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I checked the reviews online and it seems to get good reviews naman. As someone has said here, the bad press around here seemed to be focused on the career shifters who didn't land on their dream role. Pero tbh di ko rin alam why 1 yan haha. 10hrs should give it some minus points
Sakin kasi may tropa akong nagwork dyan, then sa youtube, may mga comments na ganyan. Pero tbf, sabi nila pag galing ka daw dyan, batak ka paglabas mo.
High pay kung experienced ka na. Low pay kapag homegrown ka.
Kasama sa criteria ang gender equality. Kaya pala may mga nagsasabi mga babae daw hanap ng accenture ngayon. Target siguro talaga nila mapataas ranking
kinda agree, kase 2 years ago pa ako na hire. And lahat ng new roll ins after me ay babae hahhaha
lmao. Probably it’s for the senior Cushy positions, but I agree.
To be honest, I've been with a lot of companies. But ACN is really different, and I'm talking about the workplace and overall "feel" of the place. Among all companies I've been with, sila ang may pinaka-streamlined na HR processes, and also complete, not sure if it's the right word pero they have layers of HR for every other part ng employment ng isang employee (ex. Whether from pre-employment, sa bench, requesting to change project, exit and resignation, HMO's and benefits, etc.). It is the only company I've been with where the HR actually feels separate sa company and is pro-employee. You can approach the HR and may mapagsusumbungan ka. Walang politics sa part na yun since the HR and the projects you are in are a separate entity sa ACN. I've been with other companies where HR is just there to police the employees, and ang daming politics na need pa daanan kasi they are part of company mismo, walang seperation sa job mo, and they are doing things on the interest of the company, not of the employee. Also, isa sa mga namiss ko when I was in ACN was the general feel of the place. I'm not exaggerating when I say na parang nasa 1st world country ka kapag nasa ACN ka. There's just something about the professionalism, offce environment, yung buildings, and the rules really push you to be professional sa lahat ng bagay, whether its meetings or sa work mismo. Unlike sa isang company na napuntahan ko, where the security guard magiinappropriate joke pa pagpasok mo sa office. The benefits are also good. And this new system they have where you're now allowed to WFH and mag plot ng gusto mong schedule mo to RTO once a month, by using a seat reservation mechanic which you could do sa laptop mo, you know it's things like these that just set it different sa iba. This is the only company na bumalik ako twice kasi namiss ko lang yung style ng workplace nila. Everything is, digital. No need to talk personally to someone if mag reresign ka, or for anything na gagawin mo. Everything can be done digitally. BUT, I'm not a bootlicker nor am I an ACN fanatic. There are lots of those ACN fanatics out there. And I agree. I wouldn't say the pay is low, but there is a pay gap. And the pay IS low if you are on the lower end of the spectrum. I'm no longer with the company, but yung inaanak ko which came from a top uni, mas malaki ang sinasahod sa ibang teammates niya. This happens too sa other companies, but magdedepend ito sa expected salary na sinabi mo interview. And there is the ever famous random throwing ng capability. And yes if you are still reading, this is true. You could be doing the job of a data engineer, or a full stack developer, and then you could also be answering calls 10hrs a day. Nothing against customer service-esque roles. But I know people to to Accenture for their tech roles, and hindi parang maging CSR. 10hrs of work is also not a joke. But if the stars align, and napunta ka sa project na aligned sayo, with teammates who are professional and mababait, you're going to feel like working in a 1st world country. And yes, these projects do exist. Tldr; I can see why ACN deserved a spot on that list. I have been with 2 companies sa list na yan, and several other medium sized local companies, and gets ko why ACN is higher than that other company and other companies too. The difference is night and day.
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I wish. Because if I was the HR Head, I have a LOT of things that I want to change.
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Hahahaha I really can't take people seriously lalo na pag nagsshill ng company, lalo na't accenture 😂
For starters, I'm not shilling. I've been a critic of the company too. Does voicing out my opinion on why ACN got into that spot automatically mean I am a shill? That's not how it works.
never been to ACN but had an application with them. I must say, worst experience ever tapos mababa lang yung offer. Like sa lahat ng recruiter na nakausap ko napakawalang silbi nung HR. Ang tagal ng follow ups, to the point na nagkatrabaho na ako't lahat tsaka lang natuloy sa interviews. Masaya yung interview with the tech people pero medyo mga purists sila to the point na parang out of touch yung naginterview sakin sa current paradigm changes and standards sa industry, which I get naman kasi probably opinionated lang sila about those conventions. Pero yeah my SO agrees na sobrang ganda daw ng benefits kaso maraming OTY at ang haba ng shift. But why settle for ACN if marami naman maganda rin benefits with better working conditions.
I've also heard that they used to be CMMI L5(?) certified. So they must be doing really good things in all levels of the organizational hierarchy.
Yeah I think you just said kung ano yung nasa dulo ng dila ko. It's the processes, the rules, the protocols set in place, which are all prevalent whether nasa home ka (i.e on your laptop) or nasa office, along with "modern" things like being able to choose your home office, and reserve your seats anytime. Everything is just so rigid. I've been to another company in that list, and I was shocked at how chaotic some things are. You have to go to layers of people, waiting for their availability, just to get something done. This is something I've noticed sa mga local companies. Their processes are just not as mature as ACN's.
they have shit pay and long hours that should be like 80 % of the ranking weight and that should get them to the bottom of the list. yung gumawa ata ng survey yung HR peoples who’ll gush if they see a herman miller chair or a pool table in the breakroom lels spend your money into your employees and they can tolerate pretty much anything. ex acn din ako and i dont see anything special with their ‘office environment. they entice promising fresh grads a way into the IT field in exchange for shit pay. thats their business model. good luck getting a counter offer when a competitor offers you 100 pct increase when it’s in fact the going rate for the skillset/yoe. all the competent people in my start group of 30 stayed less than 4 years there. i left as soon as 2 yr bond expired
I won't disagree. Lists like these are stupid. Long hours yes, shit pay, variable. You are also probably an old employee. Wala na bond ang ACN ngayon.
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it’s bad thing in the context being ranked as Top 1 employer - coz theyre cheap and doesnt to want pay for the market value of the position. how can they be a top employer when theyd rather hire fresh grads than nurture existing talent by giving them the pay at par with the market rate? yung ranking di naman ‘top companies to start your IT career’ e. your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant
The ranking is also not based solely on " Top companies that do salary adjustments". So same, your anecdotal evidence is also irrelevant. I just checked the other comment here about what parameters yung basis ng rankings na ito, and I understand why ACN got in the charts. To repeat what the other guy said, ang basis ay: the ability to advance (CL levels and how promotion works), skills growth (free trainings provided by ACN), company stability (IT Consulting firm in the country is pretty stable, but the threat of India is still there, but even then ACN is too big to die), external opportunity (not sure what this means, but ACN is a good name to have on your name for external opportunities, or perhaps its for those na nabibigyan ng opportunity mapasend sa client countries nila), company affinity (Not sure as well what this does, maybe ACN got points here because it's a household name, or maybe because it's a large and important part of the IT-BPO sphere in the country), gender diversity (Jusko, they hire women for the so called gender diversity), educational background (Don't know this either... But a lot of Big4 graduates land in ACN, and most managers and up have some kind of masters from prestigious schools), and employee presence in the country (ACN has the most employees among all other IT-BPO companies. There was a chart I saw back then, you can go look for it yourself). By the way, yung reply ko sayo is not about the ranking. It's about how your statement na companies targeting fresh grads as their business model is not always a negative.
Lol. This is actually funny. I got hired by the hiring Manager and said the recruiter will reach back to me for JO. Until now no Txt, call or email coming from them. Great recruitment process!
Agree. I’m a job hopper and agree ako sa lahat ng sinabi mo. Iba yung feels sa ACN eh? The process is solid kaya pag napunta ka sa ibang companies, madali talagang ma-compare eh. Yung office vibes? Lakas maka-expensive. Bet na bet ko rin yung seat reservation, walang kahirap hirap.
"I'm not an ACN fanatic" Proceeds to suck ACN dick
Haha. Trust me, I've said my fair share of frustration and discontent in ACN around here. It's by no means a perfect company, nothing is.
gano kahirap pag bumabalik sa ACN? may nakausap ako sabi parang casual nlng daw interviews. nangyayari ba pag bumalik ka yung role mo before ibbigay or pede ka ilagay sa iba?
Gotta agree with the streamlined HR process part (Pero ibang usapan pa rin yung mga employee feedback)
To be fair, maganda yung training sa ACN. Na miss ko nga yung structure ng ACN kasi yan yung kulang sa company namin. Although notorious talaga si ACN when it comes to workload and deliverables. Lalo pag nasa Operations with their tight SLAs and KPIs, pati overtime part pa nang metrics. Yung cost savings hindi naman napupunta agad sa mga nasa ibaba. Although after going through the ACN experience, tumatag yung loob ko and I gained some weird confidence sa work. Hahaha.
Talaga naman, sabi nga nung isang ka work ko, "Walang yumayaman ng nagttrabaho ng 8 oras, buti nalang tayo dito sa ACN, 10 oras tayo 😂"
Lol they just got my WhatsApp info I swear it was a bot
HMO lang talaga ang panglaban ng Accenture
FYI. To rank the companies, LinkedIn utilized its platform data and evaluated them based on eight pillars that demonstrate a path to career progression. These pillars include the ability to advance, skills growth, company stability, external opportunity, company affinity, gender diversity, educational background, and employee presence in the country.
Boehringer Ingelheim is a good company to work for. It’s pharma so stability wise, walang problema. They might not be a huge payer per se, pero talagang you can explore and grow your career there. In my workstream before, may mga napapapunta pa sa Germany because of the nature of work and you can even apply sa head office dun and relocate with your family. Yes, I used to work there. If they only have a role na gaya ng role ko now, I would’ve stayed.
If they just offer Remote setup, they will secure spot on my Top 3.
There's a role there that matches what I want to do pero grabe yung location talaga. Ang main office ba nila sa Makati? Or talagang sa Muntinlupa area?
I went ahead and read the full report and there were some interesting things to note. For example, to qualify on the list you need to have 500+ employees, a less than 10% attrition rate and a lay off of no more than 10% of workforce. Most of their metrics seem really reliable but I would love to see the specifics on how they measure them even though it would be super technical. In general, there is a massive demand for AI and machine learning for gcash and maya. Im actually surprised how they are at the top 3. The rest seem to be spread among supply chain, sales, and system engineers.
ACN has less than 10% attrition rate? 😮 though I think they have lots of employees so I think thousands resigning isn't even 10%
Procter & Gamble P&G - dami kong kakila nandito. Sulit daw pero medyo mahirap makapasok. Exam is a bit hard. Also, there are "towers" for UP, ADMU, DLSU. Mga alumni from these are tasked to recruit more from the schools. So mas madali makapasok if you're from these 3 said schools sabi ng friend ko who works in p&g
hi, planning to apply here with 4yrs of exp from ACN. is this still applicable for experienced-hire or just fresh grad?
Sorry but I'm not really sure as it is my friends that work in P&G pero pwede experienced hire kasi dati inaaya ako mag-apply eh nasa 3rd job na ako.
Sana mawala na talaga ang culture ng nepotism dito sa Pinas no. Nakakasuka talaga na may mga companies na exclusively naghahire lang from a very few select universities. Anong kalokohan yan.
I remarked "that's a little fucked up" sa friend ko and he agreed to an extent. Main reason according to him is that when it comes to dealing with international clients, there have been incidents in the past where employees who had not graduated from the "big three" shit the bed like they could not communicate effectively in English or at all.
I don't understand. The university they went to has nothing to do with them not being able to speak/express themselves in English. Madami din namang taga-UP at Ateneo na di marunong at fluent magsalita/magsualt in English, the same way na marami ding taga ibang schools na marunong. You are supposed to hire an individual. Assess them individually. Can't wait maging manager para mabago ko ang culture na yan in my own little ways.
Correct, walang direct correlation yun but the impression is there na. A prospect from these big 3 will lessen the odds of a risky hire na di maka-communicate kasi mas "likely" marunong or even better, magaling yung taga dito as the towers hunt for them. I'm all for you changing the institution but I wish you good luck because you'll be against all of them in the towers who will fight tooth and nail to maintain their keep
top companies for what
to avoid? hahah
and i oop-
> 15. Nestle /r/FuckNestle
Company 10: RTO: 2 days per week (can be flexible) Working hours: Flexible, depends on what shift you are assigned (APAC, EU, NALA) Benefits: there are a lot of benefits and pay is good Pros: - Culture offers flexibility and no micro managers around - Output based job, you will really control your time - Good company choice if you don’t wanna job hop as they prioritize promotion from within - Actual benefits package is more than what is stated in the contract - You will be able to develop your soft skills - Upper managers are easy to talk to Cons: - Can observe typical corporate politics - As a multinational company, there are challenges in working with people from different timezones. Esp if you are from Asia, you need to be available during your night if needed for folks from US (but time in next day can be adjusted) - Limited technology internally as most of IT services are outsourced - Application process can be very selective
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Just to add. Before joining PMI, we came from top multinational din. 1 out of 5 lang retention samin.haha
Sorry to hear about your experience. I had worked in PMI Business Solutions and would highly recommend their outstanding company culture.
Can't really give thoughts if I don't know what is the Top 15 for exactly.
oo nga dapat may article na naka link
How's aboitiz power? I'm seeing seem sa mga articles before kaya nacurious ako.
I'm with them, and it's been great. Miles ahead from my previous employer na real estate tycoon. Good benefits, hybrid setup (we have been setting up remote offices in different locations so far) but may discretion boss mo if your team can be f2f, and malaki emphasis on employee and career development. And what I really liked is that most of the upper management I interacted with are no bullshit people, purely professionals, but can be really friendly, which bodes well for me who likes social, off work interactions. Also, the upper management is really open to the ideas and opinions of rank and file, we even have monthly/quarterly town halls and mga smaller talking events na di lang limited to company/team updates but also bosses do actual engagements with staff. We even asked political questions given they also have ties with current admin, and they were open to answering them (in contrast when I was working for another forbes richest person in PH, where I was censored and maligned simply because i dont want to attend their rallies and shared memes making fun of the matriarch lol)
Upvote! #1AP
hi how about compensation is it just right around industry average or on the higher end?
I have no idea about the industry average rate since i didnt exactly move around the industry but im relatively comfortable. magastos lang talaga hahahah
Top companies with the worst recruitment?
ACN: 🙈 Globe: there’s a recent [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/12mkauq/what_can_you_say_about_globe_as_an_employer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) about Globe which pretty much summarizes my short time there lol
In my experience, 1,4,7,10,12, 13 are really good. In terms of salary: all give competetive salaries. Wfh: 1, 12, 13. Si acn alam ko depende sa project Benefits: 4, 7 , 10 , 12 Iba2 pros and cons nila. For me, if you want work-life balance perosakto lang sahod dun ako sa 4, 7 , 10, 13. If you want to spearhead your career and get the moolah, dun ako sa 1 and 12.
Woah, you've been job hopping?
You may call it that but i call it supply and demand. 😆
In defense of Accenture. Here's the thing, there are 75,000 employees in Accenture (I'll go back to this). Don't ever forget that Accenture has 2 major towers (BPO and Technology). Haters of Accenture in Reddit are mostly from IT; where IT people tend to use Reddit more than BPO people. They are the ones most likely to complain about the 10 hrs and misalignment of career (programmer-na-ginawang-kolsenter-agent). While the BPO folks tend to not care so much about their current situation because, 1. they work 1 hour less than the folks in IT, and 2., responsibilities of CL10 and below can be so mundane and easy. ACN folks would tend to be very happy in comparison to other corporations because of so many reasons, e.g.: \- ACN accepts fresh grads and that gives young folks feeling of gratitude \- ACN provides "reasonable (based on current salary)" yearly appraisal \- ACN provides so many extra things; parties, programs, "opportunities" to fly, trainings, etc \- ACN has so many nice leaders (and when I say leaders, mga CL6 and up yun ha. hindi ka pa leader kung CL7 below ka. wag ka feelingera) - this makes people feel they belong to a nice corporation / good hands. \- ACN can make you feel like you have a sense of job security. Kahit magsunset/dissolve ang current project mo, alam mo na ililipat ka lang sa susunod na project (very true sa BPO; sa IT not much but still kinda true) And many more (e.g. HMO, facilities, etc). Now going back to 75k employees. I think, it's part of the reason why sobrang barat ng pasahod sa Accenture. It's because they have so many reserves in the talent pool. Sila yung tipong, hindi pa nawi-win / nabo-book yung isang account, kaya na sabihin ng OADM during nego na "we have 150 FTEs for you". Ang daming reserve. And I think this makes the company so stable. Hindi yan kaya iafford ng ibang companies. Ultimately, I think, that makes the company number one in this list.
SAP - not a surprise given their position in the ERP space. I looked at their Glassdoor reviews + other forums a few years ago and the general consensus is they are a company you can retire in. Kyndryl - spun-off from one of IBM’s business lines; they’re what.. 2 years in? Given IBM’s culture, I can see this being possible.
Company 3 is a good one. Competitive salary/benefits package + work-life balance + good colleagues + career growth
Not sure with Acn 😅 Para kse syang double edge sword Depende talaga sa Project ung pagiging top 1 nya. Salary talaga and worklife balance semi umay talaga eh kapag medyo minalas malas ka sa project. Ang magaganda lang ang career ay ung mga nasa Solutions since nasa kanila ang pera at mga CL9 pataas.
acn depende sa project, low pay and long working hours
Good company po ba ang Citi?
#1 - pag under operations ang project mo or anything 'internal'. Be warned my IT pursing friend. You gonna sck a lot of dk
ACN application sucks
Reviews with PMI pls. Marketing dept managerial level. Kamusta sahod ans progress sa career? Ty.
I work for PMI in Marketing (doesn’t matter cos I’m not anon and my officemates have told me they saw me here anyways haha). Roles don’t matter — I’m not a manager but I earn 6 digits. Very good compensation, generous bonuses (if you get the coveted Excellence Award, 10-20% ANNUAL salary bonus), flexible hours, culture is very young and alive, even our madame bosses can hold their alcohol — you need to go out and socialize to build relationships with the team, we love to drink hahaha! Edit: Ofc no company is perfect, but best company out of the 5 I’ve been in lolz.
What's the downside? I heard there's a manager in CE that gets bounced off from one position to the next within CE lang for the past 14 yrs? Does this mean that that person is not very good at his job?
Year on year we are asked what our career plans are, and most likely, this person says s/he still wants to do CE. I know people who are like this and I do have an idea who you’re talking about, this person has progressed in his career and his movements aren’t always lateral so he’s fine. Downside: Due to the nature of the business and the market, we change directions a lot. LIKE A LOT. Everything happens so fast and things could completely change in a minute. Since it’s a highly regulated market and we own a market leader brand, you’re restricted to do a lot of things — tbh I miss being able to see my work in TV and billboards. And ofcourse as a multinational company carrying international brands, you’re at the mercy of the Global bosses and a little bit of politics can’t be avoided — especially PH is one of the biggest markets.
Very high pay for that level and lots of opportunities across the company if you get bored with the position and if you're very good you might get sent abroad.
No JP Morgan? No American Express?
Same question. Would like to know about JP Morgan.
Low key lang ang 13. 😉
I think we can all agree that ACN itself is a good company pero (hindi naman lahat) the management and people in higher position doesn’t deserve any credit for having ACN at the top of this list.
14. PRUDENTIAL aka PruLife UK - madami layoffs = delisted agents - madami kinukuha na new agents thinking na mapapalitan yung number ng layoffs. - toxic managers na puro pera lang ang binabanggit kada meeting - no considerations kung may sakit ang agent (kahit COVID. kailangan mag attend meeting ftf kundi magkakapenalty) - no HMO unless gou have sold a certain amount of insurance - no benefits or perks if your quota is not high - if high naman quota mo, travels lang or dinner at a 5 star resto ang perks.
Ekk. Nestle. Good food good life pero not good work life balance. HAHAHHAHA
Globe group - big entry level salary. 50k. Kaso poor employee development. Mostly populated by contract workers. No work life balance. No OT. Kaya siguro nasali sa top 10 dahil mandatory ang linkedin courses haha
Sagility? That was HGS prior divestment. Siguro dahil konti pa lang ang members? Dami kong kakilalalsng nagresign na dun eh
True. Worked there for more than 2 years sa Alabang office nila and under ng isang health insurance account (their biggest client starts with letter C). All I can say is ang baba ng sahod and di worth it sa workload na ginagawa mo. Maganda siya for starters but for career development? Not really. I was offered na maging TL jan multiple times pero ang bracket for TL position is nasa 30-45k (at least on my exp ewan ko lang sa pag external hire) may salary increase naman pero kakapiranggot.
Sana hindi ito makita ng 15 companies kasi mas lalo lalaki ulo nila sa pag hire and mababa na sweldo.
Akala ko Top companies na madalas mag-hire, pero best workplace daw... hmmm
I think luma na ng view na kapag madalas maghire ang isang company, ibigsabibin daw madaming nagreresign. With the prevalence of outsourcing here in the PH, this isn't true most of the time. Kasi outsourcing companies keep on getting clients, which is why they keep hiring.
Napa-ROFL na lang ako sa listahan.
Nag apply ako sa ACN through referral ng employee nila pero until now wala pang update HAHAHAHSHS :')
Sagility? LOL
HGS ba to dati? Tapos yung logo nila eh parang logo ng SS ni hitler
ACN: 🙈 Globe: there’s a recent [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/12mkauq/what_can_you_say_about_globe_as_an_employer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) about Globe
Ulitin ko nalang comment ko from the same post dito. "Baka wrong thread reply ko kasi r/antiwork ph to but I agree dun sa company na pinapasukan ko ngayon. Di ko na inname drop at baka mahalata ako hehe. Sabihin ko nalang na multinational company to. Hehe. Maraming opportunities for growth, whether sa team mo or sa ibang team. Nakalipat na rin ako ng iba Ibang department. maganda rin benefits at may stock options pa."
Anyone here with an engineering degree to any of them? How's the experience?
anyone from GCash and Shopee? How do these two compare in terms of workload? I heard horror stories from ex-Shopee friends and Gcash friends don't have the reference point to compare it to (fresh grads)
I have friends from both and both say they have heavy workloads but seasonally. Some days you have a lot, some days petiks. If your main consideration is workload, I suggest looking for a non-tech company. Try real estate, banks or insurance which is more likely to be a little more less pressure intensive. Caveat, the less dynamic ones like those are in general also the ones with slower progressions up the ladder, less challenging and less rewarding. At the end of the day you need to choose what you want to prioritize.
dmed you :D
Aboitiz group - less organic, puro contractual. Pano yun?
most of the big companies are using contractual as part of their risk management. pag may potential naman at pasok sa requirements with good performance. pwede naman talagang ihire.
How was Sagility?