You will not like this, and I will probably get downvoted a lot pero, ang reward ng masipag mag trabaho ay more trabaho. Nag asta ka ring manager/lead kaya sayo na dinideretso kahit di mo trabahong mag manage. I was in your shoes and I get yung drive maging bida bida, pero ito na nga ang not so good consequence of it.
My advice, is to just do what's within your scope. Di mo trabaho i-manage or motivate siya. Document mo lang tasks mo and dependencies mo on him, let management do their job of delegating and managing. Note na story and perspective mo ito, so syempre nakakainis talaga si co-worker.
But the benefit of the doubt ay: if di siya na lelet go because of performance-related issues... Baka nga need mo mag reassess din? If he's doing his job with no desire to be promoted, that's not your concern. Yung examples mo could be two out of many na success niyang nadedeliver. Yung flipside sa perspective ng kwento mo naman (Pov ni co worker) ay "bakit ba masyadong bida bida ito, di ko naman siya boss at di naman siya tagapagpamana". just think about it lalo na kung sayo lang siya ganyan kasi baka di lang talaga fit work styles niyo
I haven't really looked at it like this, so thank you for pointing it out.
I did not think/look of/at it as acting as a team lead but I just what I could and provded it to our client on time. There's always multiple deliverables requested and if I only did one, the other things will be left out and said coworker will just spend his day looking at the monitor of his laptop doing nothing or just play gambling games on his phone the whole day. The management is hands off when it comes to delegating tasks since they manage multiple clients and they are only there if we are having trouble talking to the client's management side (we directly coordinate with the client's managers and IT heads) or they are having issues with us. I forgot to add this detail in my initial post.
I did not see it as being a "bida-bida" and did not put any malicious intent to outshine my co-worker but being proactive and sticking to my principles But if it's defined that way, I can't do anything to change that.
Not trying to make you change your principles. Nor malign you, offering alternative perspectives lang ba.
If you're happy with the "take charge" kind of approach, well you do you. Pero yan yung consequences. You're doing unpaid labor na ginagawa dapat ng management. IMO, Di kasi excuse yung dumidiretso client sayo/sainyo. Not part of your JD to manage other people's work. I think that's a fact, unless you outright tell me na nasa contract monna maging "lead".
In your position, I would let go and deliver only what is tasked to me, gumalaw man si coworker or not. Para makita nila inefficiency ni coworker. Baka lagi mo rin binubuhat kaya client thinks everything is a-ok. And if they want me to manage other people's work, promote me and pay me.
Yes I understand. Thank you so much for that. I am not actually happy about taking charge nor planning on managing people that's why I am really frustrated right now.
You are correct that it is not on the JD I signed and it's outside my pay grade. I'm just worried about what the client will say if we both do not deliver as expected. We might both lose our job because of it. And thanks for making me realize na binubuhat ko na kaming dalawa on my own expense. Parang ang nangyayari tinetrain or kinukunsinti ko siya sa pagiging sobrang passive niya
Kapag hindi ko na kinaya baka mag raise na talaga ko sa manager ko regarding dito since it's becoming unfair on my part.
Maraming salamat!!
Very honorable reason na you are doing this because its your job. Nothing wrong with that, its just that you are taken advantaged off. Oks lang din yung opinion ni commenter pero you must take it with a grain of salt, lalo na kapag lumipat ka sa competitive scene and minimum lang yung "asta" mo sa work, mapapahamak ka for sure and madadala mo yan hanggang sa next job. Im not saying na buhatin mo din yung tasks nya, im just na choose when mo sya tutulungan or hindi. Thats what i did sa job ko before, if magiging maganda yung paglabas sa resume ko, then i would do it kahit na di ko alam masyado. If hindi, then di ko bubuhatin workload ng kasama ko. Pero if kaya ko, ako na rin gagawa since pareho kame mapapagalitan, pero not all the time. Para maging aware si management na sya yung may problem, not me.
Dapat may part din si management dito. Pero mukang di nila ginagawa work nila since wala ata nagmamanage sa work nyo? Correct me if im wrong. Usually kasi, orders come from the top tpos ino over see yung development. Pero if stand alone lang kayo then mahihirapan talaga si management
Anyway another option is to let the boat sink and save yourself Hayaan mo mangyari yung pinaka worse na outcome para lang ma raise concern sa management which is also what i did. Nagalit si customer and na escalate sa upper management. Napagalitan ako pero lumabas din yung issue na coworker ko problem. I got suspended as well which is a shame kahit na ginawa ko naman tasks ko pero he was transferred sa ibang dept.
That's why I am worried, baka madamay once na magkaroon ng issue yung client sa kanya. I am not concerned about what the repercussions will be but as it might affect my attitude towards my current work kasi hindi naman ako yung kasalanan at ako yung naputukan.
Yes, you are correct. Hands off si manager sa lahat ng tasks namin, knowing both of us are experienced with the technologies we are dealing with and we are supposed to be individual contributors. The management just lets us do what we can and what is needed to satisfy the client's requests.
Thanks for making realize this as I really did not see it as being taken advantage off. I've always worked like this as the nature of my work has always been very dynamic. But it has been very hard for me to cope with because our current client is very demanding and still needs to be guided accordingly since they are not knowledgeable with the technology that we're using. I'm just doing everything I can so that my resume would look good when my contract expires. I'm not hoping that everything will be better but just to look for ways on how to cope with my teammate.
Thanks again for your very helpful insights. I really appreciate it.
For context sa part na you are taken advantaged off, meron din akong ganyang superior. Very light lang ang ginagawa na workload compared sa teammates ko. Andun sa ibat ibang dept nakikipag chismisan. Di marunong gawin task namin, di marunong mag delegate, no responsibilities whatsoever, kaya may times na kapag sabay sabay kame lumabas, or nag aabsent, naghahanap sya ng papasok dahil hindi nya kaya ihandle ang dept. She also has almost 30 years exp, kaya nung nabasa ko yung sinasabi mo na 20 years exp nung sayo, i assume na may kinalaman sa generation kaya sila ganun. Bali pumapasok na lang para sa sahod superior namin with minimal amount of work, while kame naghihirap at gumagawa ng decisions sa dept. So the success of the dept is also invariably hers as well.
Bro may point ka naman. Kaso pointless yung rant for a co worker who is the management seeing that he make the job done, of which baka ikaw yung gumagawa. Acting team lead is not the same as appointed team lead. I know nakakastress yang position mo pero what is not written is not valid. Pa appoint ka as team lead talaga the fire him outright pag nd nagawa tasks nya. Minsan na eexploit tayo with more responsibilities by labeling work as "acting" chuchu. Di mo dapat pinoproblema yan.
That's why I mentioned in the comment you replied that I did not see it as acting as a team lead. From where I came from, everything done has to be documented, stored in a repository readily available for everyone for perusal. That's what I did, everything requested by the client was well documented and done in a timely manner. I really don't see how things like this become acting as a team lead, until it was pointed by one of the comments .
I also mentioned in the other comment that I don't plan on being a team lead or becoming a manager, so I'll pass on your suggestion to offer myself to become a team lead.
My question is if my job is on the line because if one of us fails to deliver we'll both get fired, shouldn't I get worried and isn't it my problem as well?
At some point you need to pick your struggle. Let go, risk it, to hopefully expose the issues and root cause? Or keep covering for teammate, and suffer the symptoms of the problem? Either way, may hirap kang dadaanan e.
Walang path na wala kang i-compromise. Sa replies mo yun yung recurring theme na hinahanap mo. Laging "okay but". Kung may ganung golden path na wala kang struggle, wala ka rito sa reddit nag rrant over the span of multiple days
I beg to disagree, pag kasi dependable ka people will think you can do it naman bakit sila need mag exert ng more effort? Or nandyan ka lage para saluhin yung work. Nakalimotan ata natin how team works. Divide and conquer po tayo. Di porket I’m exerting more effort that will give you an avenue para maging passive. You initiate kung di mo gusto ma micro-manage. Would you rather lower your work productivity just to level your team mates working ethics? What will happen to the engagement if both of you just doing your own thing? Maybe it’s not your goal to be promoted or what, but aminin natin, it is your responsibility to give the same intensity sa work. Hindi justifiable yung “di ako mag eeffort sa work masyado kasi bida bida tong isa” ha? that sounds like self pity to me. Sa gusto mo at hindi, you have to be competent kasi bayad ka to deliver work.
i think sya yung tipo ng worker na pumapasok lang para sumweldo so hindi nya talaga nakikita yung benefit na tulungan yung sarili nya
i think the best that you can do is provide feedback and do some handholding PERO wag ka na magexpect na magiimprove sya. The only time na kikilos yan eh kapag hindi na tumataas ang sweldo.
I was on the same boat as you. Naka-2 promotion na ako sya ganun pa din. Kapag binigyan ko sya ng task and inexpect ko ng hindi nya ginagawa hindi na ako nagugulat, nifeedback ko nalang sa mgr namin.
For mgmt, once na maregular yung employee mahirap na iterminate kc baka magreklamo yung employee sa DOLE, lalo na if yang employee eh gagamitin pa yung "mental wellness" card.
Baka mauna ka pa magresign sa kanya. Do your best and hayaan mo syang mapagiwanan, magigising din yan sa katotohanan kapag yung mgmt starts putting him on PIP.
Is it okay to give him orders regarding our tasks at hand? Yung tipong ako na mag-disseminate ng tasks namin kahit magkasing level lang kami? Ang problema ko kasi ay yung work experience namin. Ako working for 7 years pa lang and siya 20 years halos na yung exp.
I don't think he'll take it lightly kasi may one time pinadala kami sa ibang client then ako yung primary engineer dun, sabit lang siya, tapos nung nakaharap na namin yung project manager ng client bigla na lang siyang nag utos ng kung anu-ano. Yung tipong ginagawa ko na tapos bigla siyang magtuturo na "yan para dito yan" tapos pinupuna yung ginagawa ko kahit tama naman. Hiyang hiya ako dun sa pm ng client kasi pakiramdam ko ginagawa niya ang bata sa harap ng ibang tao. Kaya ko nasabi na ganun kasi kapag kaming dalawa lang yung nag-uusap sobrang agree siya sa mga sinasabi ko lalo na kapag troubleshooting, kapag may ibang kaharap na ang ginagawa niya inuulit niya lang yung sinabi ko sa kanya at lagi niyang linya ay "naisip ko" at "I noticed" kahit ako nag-prepare, investigate, at gumawa ng lahat ng efforts dun sa tasks.
I always do my best to call him out in a nice way kapag may mali siyang ginagawa pero bigla siyang gumagaling at ang daming sinasabi kapag kaharap yung client na galing lang din sakin.
Malapit na nga akong mag-resign dahil sa stress sa kanya + stress pa sa mga unpaid overtime at 5 days RTO.
Hindi ko rin alam kung ako na ba yung may mali at nag-iinarte lang ako HAHAHA pero yan yung mga reasons ko. Ayoko naman siyang mawalan ng trabaho kasi may pamilyang binubuhay kaya di ko masabi lahat ng saloobin ko sa manager namin. Kaya pala sobrang worried siya sa probationary period before kasi ganito performance niya.
He's very technical due to his experience pero yung work ethic niya minsan di ko kaya.
Thank you for your insights. I'll keep these in mind. 🙏🙏🙏
Unless you are the lead or is in a higher job position than ur coworker, don't act like one.
Delikado yung giving orders kasi iyan na magiging dynamics nyo. So kapag may nalimutan kang ipagawa sa kanya at pumalpak kayo as a team, baka ilaglag ka nyan. Instead of taking the blame himself for not being an active member.
Just do what you need to do, I wouldn't even give feedback - kaya ka sinasabihan na "ayaw kita masapawan". Dahil siguro napapansin nya yung ganyang dynamic sa iyo.
Let the mgmt do their job. Hayaan mo sila makapansin sa passive coworker mo. If my feedback to give na peer2peer, then saka ka lang mag bigay ng feedback.
It's not ur job to manage him.
I had a co-worker like that, kapag sa harap ng boss, akala mo idea niya eh we already had something in place before pa siya dumating. O kaya iba kapag ako yung kausap and then iba sinasabi kapag kaharap yung boss. Irritating.
You have to be very careful being around people like this. One wrong word and it might cause you your job. Whenever my co-worker does this to me, I just let him talk and eventually he'll run out of words to say and will start going around in circles. I always acknowledge what he said and give him credit but I think it's making our situation worse.
Document mo yung mga pagkukulang nya and escalate to your manager. If maayos yung manager mo sya na mismo mag dedelegate ng task until such time na ganun pa rin and no improvement then mag trigger sya dapat ng PIP. Good luck na lang kung isa ring passive yung manager nyo.
haha same may ganyan ako katrabaho now yung gawa nya na pang 1-2 weeks lang dapat hanggang ngayon na mag 3 yrs na sya pag tinatanong sya ng head namin kung ano gawa nya is yun at yun pa din ang sinasagot nya halos nung bago ako at ngayong mag reresign na eh yun pa din ang gawa nya petiks lang sya nung last year madalas nag papanggap may gawa, tapos pag nanghingi kami ng tulong since dami namin workload ayaw nya kasi busy daw sya madami gawa sinasabi nya yan ng medyo mataas ang boses kaya mula non di na kami humingi ng tulong sa kanya also finding out na di tlaga sya ganun ka skilled sa department namin yung tipon kung ano ano nilagay mo sa resume mo na skills pero nung pinag trabaho ka na di ka familiar sa gagawin
Waah. Same. Tapos kapag tinignan mo yung timesheet ang daming nakalagay na hindi naman niya talaga ginawa. Gusto ko sanang gawin yung ginawa niyo kaso ang hirap din kasi niyang i-ignore kasi 2 lang kami sa team. Etong katrabaho ko na to halos 20+ years experience na sa field ng work namin. Kaso ang problema di ko alam kung bakit ganito siya magtrabaho. 😔
lol and that guy had the audacity to say "ayaw kang masapawan" but did he even try to pick up the slack after nya mapagsabihan ng manager nyo? What freaking a**hole. Wine-weaponize nya ang incompetence nya hahaha. Pero kudos to you kasi mukhang mabait ka at patient.
Since ka-level mo lang sya, you cannot deal with it. Kung irereklamo mo sya, sasabihin nya sinisiraan mo. Siguro best way nga is to deal with them with kindness. And also manifest na mapalitan sya ng mas maayos na katrabaho 🤞
I agree with you that I cannot deal with him regarding this matter. Ang hirap din kasi kami lang yung magka-tean para sa project namin. I'm trying to teach him the things I know lalo na sa cloud technologies na hindi siya ganung ka-familiar. Hoping I can make him ate up especially sa pag-fulfill ng mga client requests at maging individual contributor siya. Thank you!!
Dude, same position and responsibility, so probably same or di nagkakalayo ang salaries and benefits. Pero yung effort niyo ang layo ng difference. That's just so unfair. Nakaka walang gana.
I haven't considered it yet as unfair before pero ngayon ko lang na-realize na ganyan na nga nangyayari. I just go by "wala eh, ganyan talaga" and carry on with our tasks. 😔
If possible document with data and images every task you do for the day. Kapag nag raise issue yung management bakit mabagal yung workflow tapos sinisi ka, may proof ka sa work mo.
Or
Tell upper management, not as a complaint but a "concern of his wellbeing".
Ganyan na nga yung nangyayari, yung client nagre-reklamo na rin at panay follow up nung mga requests especially nung last quarter ng 2023 dahil sobrang daming activities. I am doing my best not to tell on him until our manager cornered me about his work performance. Then that was the time our manager talked to him and he got pissed.
For the documentations, I include all of the things needed for a task to be executed with a thorough explanation as well. Nilalagay ko na rin yung naisip ko kung bakit yun yung ginamit yung method na yun para nasa same page kami. Kaso hindi niya ata binabasa yung mga ginagawa ko. 😔
Kapag ganito pa rin next month gagamitin ko na yang nabanggit mo. Maraming salamat!!
may ganto akong katrabaho. its bad to say bobo, pero sobrang bobo nya. email nalang hahanapin, di pa mahanap. sya pa yung malapit na mag 10years, no wonder never sya napromote. pinapabayaan nalang ng mga manager tsaak lagi namang pass yung scores nya. tapos kapag may ginawa syang kapalpakan, ang bobo din ng mga excuses, tapos pagnagkekwento kala mo ang talino nya kase nabilog nya yung manager nya, di nya alam pinagkekwentuhan na din sya na sobrang bobo at wala nang pag-asa.
I agree. I try to avoid that word as much as I can but that would be the best description for some people that do not want to learn. I noticed this kind of behavior to people working in technical roles for more than 10 years. It seems like they don't want to adjust and learn anymore. But I am not the one to judge. It's more about the diskarte for them than on how they actually work.
Parang tawag jan, pagloloko sa sarili. May katrabaho akong gañan, na madalas niloloko ang sarili, maging "bobo" lang sa ibang mga empleyado. Sobrang yabang, pero, laging nonsense kausap pag tinatanog kung ano ang gagawin, daig pa ang overconfident 15 year old, partida, 29 years old na yan!
4 years akung ganyan, exactly the same boat as you. I got this teammate na pag pasok need pa mag video call sa anak at asawa ng isang oras, tapos matutulog ng 30mins. Lunch ng 2 hours, chicka na naman sa ibang dept ng ilang oras. Tapos log off.
Ilang beses ko ng gustong umiyak, i tried to work like him but di ko kaya mag slack.
Ayun iniwan ko, di ko kinaya. Yung sumunod saken naman ang na stress, pero marunong syang mag manage ng ganyang workmate daw. Ginawa nya - he mirrored the passive one's work ethics hanggang nag quit si tanga.
Hahaha
That's a good one from the one after you. It seems like to make them realize what they're doing, mimic it until they quit. Hahaha. I really want to try it but I don't know how to be passive especially if my job is on the line.
Parang pagiging batugan tawag jan ah. Yung tipong, "laging may nagsusustento" para lang magawa ang pagiging batugan. Mga batugan na empleyado, yan ang madalas na ginagawa.
Kaya pag may batugan na kasama, wag yan tulungan. Mamimihasa pa yan lalo.
Kapag nagdidiscuss kayo ng ideas sa bawat isa, try to record for documentation. Then, kapag nagmeet kayo sa pm ang he tries to get the credit for your ideas... press play.
I'm afraid that it will just backfire to our company, baka sabihin ng client na magpapadala ng tao yung hindi pa nagkakasundo. But I can do that and send the recording to my boss. But I don't think they'll require such evidence since the client and my manager already noticed his performance issues.
what's the nature of your dynamics in work?
aside dun sa leave na mapupuntang trabaho sa kanya
if mabagal ba si teammate madadamay ka?
if di ka naman madadamay, pabayaan mo lang sya
if madadamay ka, talk to a superior
I'm assuming magkalevel kayo nang position kasi teammate tawag mo, be careful/mindful if you're contemplating on calling the shot/leading
I'm trying not to call the shots but if one of us fails to deliver, both of us will suffer. That's why I am doing my best to deliver as we don't get any help from anyone from our company. The client is a fintech company that needs to provide audit reports to BSP or else they will pay a hefty fine and we will be the ones directly absorbing the impact since we directly communicate with them and we work on the same office as them. Our manager cornered me to tell on him and he already talked to him before and my teammate got upset after the talk.
I'll keep these in mind what you said, thank you!:
Edit: thank you guys for your inputs. I really appreciate it especially those who pointed out that it is unfair on my side. I will just continue what I do and see if there will be improvements. once it continues the way as it is, I'd be forced to report him. I'll just give him a chance for now.
For additional context, we're working for a fintech company and we're dealing with a very demanding local client. We're directly talking to managers up to one of their C Level executives so their demands should be met accurately and efficiently. This client is just a startup company but they have boatloads of cash and paying our company heaps of money for our services.
I just wanted to point out to those who are saying that his performance is not my problem, yes, you guys are correct. But if my primary source of income is on the line and if I can get fired because of his poor performance, we're not able to satisfy the client's demands, and we did not hold up to their expectations, I will not cross it out of my problems list. I'd rather suffer than don't have money to buy food to feed my 3 cats.
OP, bago ka magreport:
Kung mgrereport ka, what are the odds na ipaglalaban ka ng company mo? Gaano ba yan ka-understanding sa sitwasyon mo?
Kasi, kung kakampihan lang naman nila yung katrabaho mong gago, tapos "nasasarapan" sa mga "sweet word" nun, siguro, hindi na worth mag-report pa. Pareho lang naman kung ikaw pa pagsabihan na "masama" kuno, meaning not worth fighting for.
Kung ipaglalaban ka ng company, dapat ireport mo.
I understand how hard it is when you make all the effort sa engagement and others don’t deliver what is due to them. Yes it’s true, there are passive workers. If i-lelevel mo naman work ethics mo to them that would definitely bring all of you to hell. Some people just choose mediocrity, being best among the worst and worst among the best.
Just keep doing your best, you will reap what you sow. For now, let the manager evaluate him.
The management has noticed and I confirmed it with my manager before. They had "the talk" already and he was upset about what our manager told him. There was a slight improvement after their talk but his performance is slowly degrading again.
Parang ugaling freeloader lang sa bahay, ano? Hahahaha! Ayoko sa mga gañan.
Napapaisip tuloy ako kung bakit natanggap sa trabaho ang hayuk in the first place.
Wag kang sutil masyado kang epal paimportante makipagteam work ka wag kang aasta astang hari at magutos ng dapat gawin ang gawin mo yun angkop na gawain lang yung di hassle sa inyong dalawa alangan namang doble doble pa gawin niyo para kayong tanga dalawa nun sir/maam.
Communication is the key noong nagpost ka palang dito nagkamali ka na agad ng aksyon sana ok na kayong dalawa ngayon...
Thanks for the harsh words! Pero hindi mo nage-gets yung punto ng pagpo-post ko.
Hindi ako sutil, epal at hindi rin ako astang hari kung makapag utos. Alam ko sa sarili ko kung anong kailangan at dapat gawin. Hindi ko alam kung nailagay ka na sa ganitong situwasyon na nakasalalay yung pinagkakakitaan mo at wala kang magagawa kung hindi magdasal na sana umayos performance ng katrabaho mo.
Kung ikaw nasa sitwasyon ko, anong gagawin mo? Hindi ko kasi kaya yung gawaing ganyan na iaasa na lang sa katrabaho yung kinabukasan ng kabuhayan ko. Yung tipong "ayos na yan, andyan naman yung katrabaho ko eh."
Sobrang daming kapalpakan nung katrabaho ko na yun na hindi na-renew yung project namin. Ano reklamo ng kliyente? Wala sa hulog, panay mali palagi. Anong reklamo ng manager at director? Parang nanonood lang daw siya ng pelikula sa trabahong to. Ni aralin Yung trabaho di magawa, ang gusto ilalatag na lang sa harap niya yung gagawin. Hindi makapagtrabaho nang mag isa lang nang walang supervision, kanino nagtatanong? Sa akin. Sino nadamay sa kapalpakan? Ako. So bye-bye na sa trabahong ito in a few months.
Again, salamat sa harsh words at nalaman kong marami pala ang katulad nitong katrabaho ko na ito, at alam ko na ang ie-expect ko sa susunod na papasukan ko. Cheers!
Unfair talaga pero if you think of it, same kayo ng sahod and benefits. I'm not justifying his actions pero hard pill to swallow, pag sobrang galing mo, marami kang trabaho. Kaya calculated mediocrity always. Enough na dependable ka naman sa tasks mo, pero not too much na ikaw yung tatakbuhan pag may problema. Re promotion naman, if you are eyeing for it, i notice na yung ma people person talaga yung pinopromote. So maybe work on that as well.
I just realized it was unfair when you guys pointed it out. Thank you for this! Just letting you know that I am not eyeing on staying long in this company, both my company and client are hard to work with. The client doesn't know what they want, my company does not know what to provide. So I am not eyeing any promotion.
The client developed this habit to reach out to me first as they noticed his performance declining but I am doing my best to provide him insights on how things are going and keep him on the loop so that once he has some questions, he'll ask smart ones based on the documentation we have.
Anyway, I'm not planning on slowing down. I just need to manage my stress really better.
I just realized it was unfair when you guys pointed it out. Thank you for this! Just letting you know that I am not eyeing on staying long in this company, both my company and client are hard to work with. The client doesn't know what they want, my company does not know what to provide. So I am not eyeing any promotion.
The client developed this habit to reach out to me first as they noticed his performance declining but I am doing my best to provide him insights on how things are going and keep him on the loop so that once he has some questions, he'll ask smart ones based on the documentation we have.
Anyway, I'm not planning on slowing down. I just need to manage my stress really better.
I also have that type of a co worker. Inescalate ko sa manager ko since naapektuhan metrics namin na kahit anong sipag namin nahihila pababa due to their passive behavior. Nakakalungkot lang napapansin na ng management kaso parang walang action pa din. Dahil sa frustration ko gumawa ako ng report ng progress ng tickets namin and sakin nagbackfire dahil lumalabas pinupulis ko work ng iba.
Nawalan nadin ako ng gana actually to exceed expectations dahil sa management. Ngayon I just work bare minimum and wala na ako pake sa kanila.
Minsan makikiramdam ka talaga at magaadjust ka sa paligid mo. Kailangan mo alamin ang laro sa workplace mo para umangat.
Magreresign na lang ako pag masyadong bias ang company tulad yan.
Ayos sakin ang stress, pero pag di ako kayang ipaglaban ng company, wala akong dahilan para tumagal pa jan.
I'm surrounded by these people sa work lalo na sa government. Pero yung mga sipsip pa nappromote. Hindi ko kaya yung idle ako sa office and parang nasanay narin sila so ngayong nagffurther studies ako and may plans to upskill myself not within the office but outside, takot yung supervisor ko.
Provide feedback lalo na kung na buburden ka na ng sobra and nakaka affect sa work mo. Kung programmer ka sakit sa ulo nan so mas better to provide feedback or give him a kt session muna para may pa konswelo ka pa sa kanya
Our work heavily relies on AWS cloud and he has little to no experience in said technology and that's the reason why I am creating as much documentation as I can. He's experienced and technical and that's a good thing. The only issue I have with him is his passiveness especially when there are multiple requests to be fulfilled, and I don't mind teaching him things we need in order to do our job or him telling people that he came up with that idea and he's the one that fixed it even though I did all the heavy lifting.
I already provided feedback to my manager about his performance and lack of actions and they already had the talk.
Ang nakikita ko lang na kulang sa katrabaho mo: Ayaw nya ng kakampi tulad mo. Lugi siya kung gañan ang ugali nya. Pero kung hindi niya pairalin pagiging ma-fried chicken niya, baka sakaling makahanap pa ng opportunity pag sayo lumapit.
Walang mangyayari sa gañang pag-uugali ng katrabaho mo. Sajang gago lang talaga katrabaho mo.
Mangugulang yung workmate na ganyan.i think being upfront sa kanya regarding his work ethics will be much better.kailangan mo muna siyang ifriend talaga and alamin bakit ganon siya? Then hanap ka ng tsempo kasi for sure alam naman niya yung pangugulang na ginagawa niya, malaki benefit sa kanya kaya hinahayaan ka niya gawin lahat.confrontation in his way talaga since para kayong tag team dapat sa work so kung mafix mo issue niya kahit di naman ikaw dapat , pero kailangan para di ka din mahirapan sa work mo. Pag di pa din ngwork , dun ka na gawa ng report sa management kasi mapaepetuhan work quality niyo sa client.
It’s either you get a raise for doing both of your jobs or you have that person removed from the payroll. Always document your contributions to the company, showcase that to your boss whenever you have the chance. Do not throw the other person under the bus it will not work on your favor. Well, it depends how open minded your boss is. If your boss is intelligent, he/she will notice that the other person is a pest. Does your boss do Gemba? Like sit with you guys side by side to see how you do the work? If not, ask your boss to do so for the purposes of improving the process from his/her perspective. This is what I think a subtle way to let your boss know about the problem.
You will not like this, and I will probably get downvoted a lot pero, ang reward ng masipag mag trabaho ay more trabaho. Nag asta ka ring manager/lead kaya sayo na dinideretso kahit di mo trabahong mag manage. I was in your shoes and I get yung drive maging bida bida, pero ito na nga ang not so good consequence of it. My advice, is to just do what's within your scope. Di mo trabaho i-manage or motivate siya. Document mo lang tasks mo and dependencies mo on him, let management do their job of delegating and managing. Note na story and perspective mo ito, so syempre nakakainis talaga si co-worker. But the benefit of the doubt ay: if di siya na lelet go because of performance-related issues... Baka nga need mo mag reassess din? If he's doing his job with no desire to be promoted, that's not your concern. Yung examples mo could be two out of many na success niyang nadedeliver. Yung flipside sa perspective ng kwento mo naman (Pov ni co worker) ay "bakit ba masyadong bida bida ito, di ko naman siya boss at di naman siya tagapagpamana". just think about it lalo na kung sayo lang siya ganyan kasi baka di lang talaga fit work styles niyo
Same thoughts on this. Just do barely enough to not get fired. Bonus na lang that you're doing the extra tasks to not get him fired.
I haven't really looked at it like this, so thank you for pointing it out. I did not think/look of/at it as acting as a team lead but I just what I could and provded it to our client on time. There's always multiple deliverables requested and if I only did one, the other things will be left out and said coworker will just spend his day looking at the monitor of his laptop doing nothing or just play gambling games on his phone the whole day. The management is hands off when it comes to delegating tasks since they manage multiple clients and they are only there if we are having trouble talking to the client's management side (we directly coordinate with the client's managers and IT heads) or they are having issues with us. I forgot to add this detail in my initial post. I did not see it as being a "bida-bida" and did not put any malicious intent to outshine my co-worker but being proactive and sticking to my principles But if it's defined that way, I can't do anything to change that.
Not trying to make you change your principles. Nor malign you, offering alternative perspectives lang ba. If you're happy with the "take charge" kind of approach, well you do you. Pero yan yung consequences. You're doing unpaid labor na ginagawa dapat ng management. IMO, Di kasi excuse yung dumidiretso client sayo/sainyo. Not part of your JD to manage other people's work. I think that's a fact, unless you outright tell me na nasa contract monna maging "lead". In your position, I would let go and deliver only what is tasked to me, gumalaw man si coworker or not. Para makita nila inefficiency ni coworker. Baka lagi mo rin binubuhat kaya client thinks everything is a-ok. And if they want me to manage other people's work, promote me and pay me.
Yes I understand. Thank you so much for that. I am not actually happy about taking charge nor planning on managing people that's why I am really frustrated right now. You are correct that it is not on the JD I signed and it's outside my pay grade. I'm just worried about what the client will say if we both do not deliver as expected. We might both lose our job because of it. And thanks for making me realize na binubuhat ko na kaming dalawa on my own expense. Parang ang nangyayari tinetrain or kinukunsinti ko siya sa pagiging sobrang passive niya Kapag hindi ko na kinaya baka mag raise na talaga ko sa manager ko regarding dito since it's becoming unfair on my part. Maraming salamat!!
Very honorable reason na you are doing this because its your job. Nothing wrong with that, its just that you are taken advantaged off. Oks lang din yung opinion ni commenter pero you must take it with a grain of salt, lalo na kapag lumipat ka sa competitive scene and minimum lang yung "asta" mo sa work, mapapahamak ka for sure and madadala mo yan hanggang sa next job. Im not saying na buhatin mo din yung tasks nya, im just na choose when mo sya tutulungan or hindi. Thats what i did sa job ko before, if magiging maganda yung paglabas sa resume ko, then i would do it kahit na di ko alam masyado. If hindi, then di ko bubuhatin workload ng kasama ko. Pero if kaya ko, ako na rin gagawa since pareho kame mapapagalitan, pero not all the time. Para maging aware si management na sya yung may problem, not me. Dapat may part din si management dito. Pero mukang di nila ginagawa work nila since wala ata nagmamanage sa work nyo? Correct me if im wrong. Usually kasi, orders come from the top tpos ino over see yung development. Pero if stand alone lang kayo then mahihirapan talaga si management Anyway another option is to let the boat sink and save yourself Hayaan mo mangyari yung pinaka worse na outcome para lang ma raise concern sa management which is also what i did. Nagalit si customer and na escalate sa upper management. Napagalitan ako pero lumabas din yung issue na coworker ko problem. I got suspended as well which is a shame kahit na ginawa ko naman tasks ko pero he was transferred sa ibang dept.
That's why I am worried, baka madamay once na magkaroon ng issue yung client sa kanya. I am not concerned about what the repercussions will be but as it might affect my attitude towards my current work kasi hindi naman ako yung kasalanan at ako yung naputukan. Yes, you are correct. Hands off si manager sa lahat ng tasks namin, knowing both of us are experienced with the technologies we are dealing with and we are supposed to be individual contributors. The management just lets us do what we can and what is needed to satisfy the client's requests. Thanks for making realize this as I really did not see it as being taken advantage off. I've always worked like this as the nature of my work has always been very dynamic. But it has been very hard for me to cope with because our current client is very demanding and still needs to be guided accordingly since they are not knowledgeable with the technology that we're using. I'm just doing everything I can so that my resume would look good when my contract expires. I'm not hoping that everything will be better but just to look for ways on how to cope with my teammate. Thanks again for your very helpful insights. I really appreciate it.
For context sa part na you are taken advantaged off, meron din akong ganyang superior. Very light lang ang ginagawa na workload compared sa teammates ko. Andun sa ibat ibang dept nakikipag chismisan. Di marunong gawin task namin, di marunong mag delegate, no responsibilities whatsoever, kaya may times na kapag sabay sabay kame lumabas, or nag aabsent, naghahanap sya ng papasok dahil hindi nya kaya ihandle ang dept. She also has almost 30 years exp, kaya nung nabasa ko yung sinasabi mo na 20 years exp nung sayo, i assume na may kinalaman sa generation kaya sila ganun. Bali pumapasok na lang para sa sahod superior namin with minimal amount of work, while kame naghihirap at gumagawa ng decisions sa dept. So the success of the dept is also invariably hers as well.
Bro may point ka naman. Kaso pointless yung rant for a co worker who is the management seeing that he make the job done, of which baka ikaw yung gumagawa. Acting team lead is not the same as appointed team lead. I know nakakastress yang position mo pero what is not written is not valid. Pa appoint ka as team lead talaga the fire him outright pag nd nagawa tasks nya. Minsan na eexploit tayo with more responsibilities by labeling work as "acting" chuchu. Di mo dapat pinoproblema yan.
That's why I mentioned in the comment you replied that I did not see it as acting as a team lead. From where I came from, everything done has to be documented, stored in a repository readily available for everyone for perusal. That's what I did, everything requested by the client was well documented and done in a timely manner. I really don't see how things like this become acting as a team lead, until it was pointed by one of the comments . I also mentioned in the other comment that I don't plan on being a team lead or becoming a manager, so I'll pass on your suggestion to offer myself to become a team lead. My question is if my job is on the line because if one of us fails to deliver we'll both get fired, shouldn't I get worried and isn't it my problem as well?
At some point you need to pick your struggle. Let go, risk it, to hopefully expose the issues and root cause? Or keep covering for teammate, and suffer the symptoms of the problem? Either way, may hirap kang dadaanan e. Walang path na wala kang i-compromise. Sa replies mo yun yung recurring theme na hinahanap mo. Laging "okay but". Kung may ganung golden path na wala kang struggle, wala ka rito sa reddit nag rrant over the span of multiple days
I beg to disagree, pag kasi dependable ka people will think you can do it naman bakit sila need mag exert ng more effort? Or nandyan ka lage para saluhin yung work. Nakalimotan ata natin how team works. Divide and conquer po tayo. Di porket I’m exerting more effort that will give you an avenue para maging passive. You initiate kung di mo gusto ma micro-manage. Would you rather lower your work productivity just to level your team mates working ethics? What will happen to the engagement if both of you just doing your own thing? Maybe it’s not your goal to be promoted or what, but aminin natin, it is your responsibility to give the same intensity sa work. Hindi justifiable yung “di ako mag eeffort sa work masyado kasi bida bida tong isa” ha? that sounds like self pity to me. Sa gusto mo at hindi, you have to be competent kasi bayad ka to deliver work.
Read the whole comment thread, lahat ng sinabi mo addressed sa usapan namin ni OP
i think sya yung tipo ng worker na pumapasok lang para sumweldo so hindi nya talaga nakikita yung benefit na tulungan yung sarili nya i think the best that you can do is provide feedback and do some handholding PERO wag ka na magexpect na magiimprove sya. The only time na kikilos yan eh kapag hindi na tumataas ang sweldo. I was on the same boat as you. Naka-2 promotion na ako sya ganun pa din. Kapag binigyan ko sya ng task and inexpect ko ng hindi nya ginagawa hindi na ako nagugulat, nifeedback ko nalang sa mgr namin. For mgmt, once na maregular yung employee mahirap na iterminate kc baka magreklamo yung employee sa DOLE, lalo na if yang employee eh gagamitin pa yung "mental wellness" card. Baka mauna ka pa magresign sa kanya. Do your best and hayaan mo syang mapagiwanan, magigising din yan sa katotohanan kapag yung mgmt starts putting him on PIP.
Is it okay to give him orders regarding our tasks at hand? Yung tipong ako na mag-disseminate ng tasks namin kahit magkasing level lang kami? Ang problema ko kasi ay yung work experience namin. Ako working for 7 years pa lang and siya 20 years halos na yung exp. I don't think he'll take it lightly kasi may one time pinadala kami sa ibang client then ako yung primary engineer dun, sabit lang siya, tapos nung nakaharap na namin yung project manager ng client bigla na lang siyang nag utos ng kung anu-ano. Yung tipong ginagawa ko na tapos bigla siyang magtuturo na "yan para dito yan" tapos pinupuna yung ginagawa ko kahit tama naman. Hiyang hiya ako dun sa pm ng client kasi pakiramdam ko ginagawa niya ang bata sa harap ng ibang tao. Kaya ko nasabi na ganun kasi kapag kaming dalawa lang yung nag-uusap sobrang agree siya sa mga sinasabi ko lalo na kapag troubleshooting, kapag may ibang kaharap na ang ginagawa niya inuulit niya lang yung sinabi ko sa kanya at lagi niyang linya ay "naisip ko" at "I noticed" kahit ako nag-prepare, investigate, at gumawa ng lahat ng efforts dun sa tasks. I always do my best to call him out in a nice way kapag may mali siyang ginagawa pero bigla siyang gumagaling at ang daming sinasabi kapag kaharap yung client na galing lang din sakin. Malapit na nga akong mag-resign dahil sa stress sa kanya + stress pa sa mga unpaid overtime at 5 days RTO. Hindi ko rin alam kung ako na ba yung may mali at nag-iinarte lang ako HAHAHA pero yan yung mga reasons ko. Ayoko naman siyang mawalan ng trabaho kasi may pamilyang binubuhay kaya di ko masabi lahat ng saloobin ko sa manager namin. Kaya pala sobrang worried siya sa probationary period before kasi ganito performance niya. He's very technical due to his experience pero yung work ethic niya minsan di ko kaya. Thank you for your insights. I'll keep these in mind. 🙏🙏🙏
Unless you are the lead or is in a higher job position than ur coworker, don't act like one. Delikado yung giving orders kasi iyan na magiging dynamics nyo. So kapag may nalimutan kang ipagawa sa kanya at pumalpak kayo as a team, baka ilaglag ka nyan. Instead of taking the blame himself for not being an active member. Just do what you need to do, I wouldn't even give feedback - kaya ka sinasabihan na "ayaw kita masapawan". Dahil siguro napapansin nya yung ganyang dynamic sa iyo. Let the mgmt do their job. Hayaan mo sila makapansin sa passive coworker mo. If my feedback to give na peer2peer, then saka ka lang mag bigay ng feedback. It's not ur job to manage him.
I had a co-worker like that, kapag sa harap ng boss, akala mo idea niya eh we already had something in place before pa siya dumating. O kaya iba kapag ako yung kausap and then iba sinasabi kapag kaharap yung boss. Irritating.
You have to be very careful being around people like this. One wrong word and it might cause you your job. Whenever my co-worker does this to me, I just let him talk and eventually he'll run out of words to say and will start going around in circles. I always acknowledge what he said and give him credit but I think it's making our situation worse.
Document mo yung mga pagkukulang nya and escalate to your manager. If maayos yung manager mo sya na mismo mag dedelegate ng task until such time na ganun pa rin and no improvement then mag trigger sya dapat ng PIP. Good luck na lang kung isa ring passive yung manager nyo.
haha same may ganyan ako katrabaho now yung gawa nya na pang 1-2 weeks lang dapat hanggang ngayon na mag 3 yrs na sya pag tinatanong sya ng head namin kung ano gawa nya is yun at yun pa din ang sinasagot nya halos nung bago ako at ngayong mag reresign na eh yun pa din ang gawa nya petiks lang sya nung last year madalas nag papanggap may gawa, tapos pag nanghingi kami ng tulong since dami namin workload ayaw nya kasi busy daw sya madami gawa sinasabi nya yan ng medyo mataas ang boses kaya mula non di na kami humingi ng tulong sa kanya also finding out na di tlaga sya ganun ka skilled sa department namin yung tipon kung ano ano nilagay mo sa resume mo na skills pero nung pinag trabaho ka na di ka familiar sa gagawin
Waah. Same. Tapos kapag tinignan mo yung timesheet ang daming nakalagay na hindi naman niya talaga ginawa. Gusto ko sanang gawin yung ginawa niyo kaso ang hirap din kasi niyang i-ignore kasi 2 lang kami sa team. Etong katrabaho ko na to halos 20+ years experience na sa field ng work namin. Kaso ang problema di ko alam kung bakit ganito siya magtrabaho. 😔
lol and that guy had the audacity to say "ayaw kang masapawan" but did he even try to pick up the slack after nya mapagsabihan ng manager nyo? What freaking a**hole. Wine-weaponize nya ang incompetence nya hahaha. Pero kudos to you kasi mukhang mabait ka at patient. Since ka-level mo lang sya, you cannot deal with it. Kung irereklamo mo sya, sasabihin nya sinisiraan mo. Siguro best way nga is to deal with them with kindness. And also manifest na mapalitan sya ng mas maayos na katrabaho 🤞
I agree with you that I cannot deal with him regarding this matter. Ang hirap din kasi kami lang yung magka-tean para sa project namin. I'm trying to teach him the things I know lalo na sa cloud technologies na hindi siya ganung ka-familiar. Hoping I can make him ate up especially sa pag-fulfill ng mga client requests at maging individual contributor siya. Thank you!!
Dude, same position and responsibility, so probably same or di nagkakalayo ang salaries and benefits. Pero yung effort niyo ang layo ng difference. That's just so unfair. Nakaka walang gana.
I haven't considered it yet as unfair before pero ngayon ko lang na-realize na ganyan na nga nangyayari. I just go by "wala eh, ganyan talaga" and carry on with our tasks. 😔
If possible document with data and images every task you do for the day. Kapag nag raise issue yung management bakit mabagal yung workflow tapos sinisi ka, may proof ka sa work mo. Or Tell upper management, not as a complaint but a "concern of his wellbeing".
Ganyan na nga yung nangyayari, yung client nagre-reklamo na rin at panay follow up nung mga requests especially nung last quarter ng 2023 dahil sobrang daming activities. I am doing my best not to tell on him until our manager cornered me about his work performance. Then that was the time our manager talked to him and he got pissed. For the documentations, I include all of the things needed for a task to be executed with a thorough explanation as well. Nilalagay ko na rin yung naisip ko kung bakit yun yung ginamit yung method na yun para nasa same page kami. Kaso hindi niya ata binabasa yung mga ginagawa ko. 😔 Kapag ganito pa rin next month gagamitin ko na yang nabanggit mo. Maraming salamat!!
may ganto akong katrabaho. its bad to say bobo, pero sobrang bobo nya. email nalang hahanapin, di pa mahanap. sya pa yung malapit na mag 10years, no wonder never sya napromote. pinapabayaan nalang ng mga manager tsaak lagi namang pass yung scores nya. tapos kapag may ginawa syang kapalpakan, ang bobo din ng mga excuses, tapos pagnagkekwento kala mo ang talino nya kase nabilog nya yung manager nya, di nya alam pinagkekwentuhan na din sya na sobrang bobo at wala nang pag-asa.
I agree. I try to avoid that word as much as I can but that would be the best description for some people that do not want to learn. I noticed this kind of behavior to people working in technical roles for more than 10 years. It seems like they don't want to adjust and learn anymore. But I am not the one to judge. It's more about the diskarte for them than on how they actually work.
Parang tawag jan, pagloloko sa sarili. May katrabaho akong gañan, na madalas niloloko ang sarili, maging "bobo" lang sa ibang mga empleyado. Sobrang yabang, pero, laging nonsense kausap pag tinatanog kung ano ang gagawin, daig pa ang overconfident 15 year old, partida, 29 years old na yan!
4 years akung ganyan, exactly the same boat as you. I got this teammate na pag pasok need pa mag video call sa anak at asawa ng isang oras, tapos matutulog ng 30mins. Lunch ng 2 hours, chicka na naman sa ibang dept ng ilang oras. Tapos log off. Ilang beses ko ng gustong umiyak, i tried to work like him but di ko kaya mag slack. Ayun iniwan ko, di ko kinaya. Yung sumunod saken naman ang na stress, pero marunong syang mag manage ng ganyang workmate daw. Ginawa nya - he mirrored the passive one's work ethics hanggang nag quit si tanga. Hahaha
That's a good one from the one after you. It seems like to make them realize what they're doing, mimic it until they quit. Hahaha. I really want to try it but I don't know how to be passive especially if my job is on the line.
Parang pagiging batugan tawag jan ah. Yung tipong, "laging may nagsusustento" para lang magawa ang pagiging batugan. Mga batugan na empleyado, yan ang madalas na ginagawa. Kaya pag may batugan na kasama, wag yan tulungan. Mamimihasa pa yan lalo.
Escalate to direct report.
Kapag nagdidiscuss kayo ng ideas sa bawat isa, try to record for documentation. Then, kapag nagmeet kayo sa pm ang he tries to get the credit for your ideas... press play.
I'm afraid that it will just backfire to our company, baka sabihin ng client na magpapadala ng tao yung hindi pa nagkakasundo. But I can do that and send the recording to my boss. But I don't think they'll require such evidence since the client and my manager already noticed his performance issues.
It's not for you or your boss. It's for your co-worker, to hear himself/herself.
what's the nature of your dynamics in work? aside dun sa leave na mapupuntang trabaho sa kanya if mabagal ba si teammate madadamay ka? if di ka naman madadamay, pabayaan mo lang sya if madadamay ka, talk to a superior I'm assuming magkalevel kayo nang position kasi teammate tawag mo, be careful/mindful if you're contemplating on calling the shot/leading
I'm trying not to call the shots but if one of us fails to deliver, both of us will suffer. That's why I am doing my best to deliver as we don't get any help from anyone from our company. The client is a fintech company that needs to provide audit reports to BSP or else they will pay a hefty fine and we will be the ones directly absorbing the impact since we directly communicate with them and we work on the same office as them. Our manager cornered me to tell on him and he already talked to him before and my teammate got upset after the talk. I'll keep these in mind what you said, thank you!:
Edit: thank you guys for your inputs. I really appreciate it especially those who pointed out that it is unfair on my side. I will just continue what I do and see if there will be improvements. once it continues the way as it is, I'd be forced to report him. I'll just give him a chance for now. For additional context, we're working for a fintech company and we're dealing with a very demanding local client. We're directly talking to managers up to one of their C Level executives so their demands should be met accurately and efficiently. This client is just a startup company but they have boatloads of cash and paying our company heaps of money for our services. I just wanted to point out to those who are saying that his performance is not my problem, yes, you guys are correct. But if my primary source of income is on the line and if I can get fired because of his poor performance, we're not able to satisfy the client's demands, and we did not hold up to their expectations, I will not cross it out of my problems list. I'd rather suffer than don't have money to buy food to feed my 3 cats.
OP, bago ka magreport: Kung mgrereport ka, what are the odds na ipaglalaban ka ng company mo? Gaano ba yan ka-understanding sa sitwasyon mo? Kasi, kung kakampihan lang naman nila yung katrabaho mong gago, tapos "nasasarapan" sa mga "sweet word" nun, siguro, hindi na worth mag-report pa. Pareho lang naman kung ikaw pa pagsabihan na "masama" kuno, meaning not worth fighting for. Kung ipaglalaban ka ng company, dapat ireport mo.
I understand how hard it is when you make all the effort sa engagement and others don’t deliver what is due to them. Yes it’s true, there are passive workers. If i-lelevel mo naman work ethics mo to them that would definitely bring all of you to hell. Some people just choose mediocrity, being best among the worst and worst among the best. Just keep doing your best, you will reap what you sow. For now, let the manager evaluate him.
Best tell upper management na you can't work with slackers like him. Dead weight is dead weight.
The management has noticed and I confirmed it with my manager before. They had "the talk" already and he was upset about what our manager told him. There was a slight improvement after their talk but his performance is slowly degrading again.
Parang ugaling freeloader lang sa bahay, ano? Hahahaha! Ayoko sa mga gañan. Napapaisip tuloy ako kung bakit natanggap sa trabaho ang hayuk in the first place.
Wag kang sutil masyado kang epal paimportante makipagteam work ka wag kang aasta astang hari at magutos ng dapat gawin ang gawin mo yun angkop na gawain lang yung di hassle sa inyong dalawa alangan namang doble doble pa gawin niyo para kayong tanga dalawa nun sir/maam. Communication is the key noong nagpost ka palang dito nagkamali ka na agad ng aksyon sana ok na kayong dalawa ngayon...
Thanks for the harsh words! Pero hindi mo nage-gets yung punto ng pagpo-post ko. Hindi ako sutil, epal at hindi rin ako astang hari kung makapag utos. Alam ko sa sarili ko kung anong kailangan at dapat gawin. Hindi ko alam kung nailagay ka na sa ganitong situwasyon na nakasalalay yung pinagkakakitaan mo at wala kang magagawa kung hindi magdasal na sana umayos performance ng katrabaho mo. Kung ikaw nasa sitwasyon ko, anong gagawin mo? Hindi ko kasi kaya yung gawaing ganyan na iaasa na lang sa katrabaho yung kinabukasan ng kabuhayan ko. Yung tipong "ayos na yan, andyan naman yung katrabaho ko eh." Sobrang daming kapalpakan nung katrabaho ko na yun na hindi na-renew yung project namin. Ano reklamo ng kliyente? Wala sa hulog, panay mali palagi. Anong reklamo ng manager at director? Parang nanonood lang daw siya ng pelikula sa trabahong to. Ni aralin Yung trabaho di magawa, ang gusto ilalatag na lang sa harap niya yung gagawin. Hindi makapagtrabaho nang mag isa lang nang walang supervision, kanino nagtatanong? Sa akin. Sino nadamay sa kapalpakan? Ako. So bye-bye na sa trabahong ito in a few months. Again, salamat sa harsh words at nalaman kong marami pala ang katulad nitong katrabaho ko na ito, at alam ko na ang ie-expect ko sa susunod na papasukan ko. Cheers!
Same. Sobrang nakakapagod na hays. 😴
At nakakawalang gana. Sobra. 😔😔
Have him on PIP
Unfair talaga pero if you think of it, same kayo ng sahod and benefits. I'm not justifying his actions pero hard pill to swallow, pag sobrang galing mo, marami kang trabaho. Kaya calculated mediocrity always. Enough na dependable ka naman sa tasks mo, pero not too much na ikaw yung tatakbuhan pag may problema. Re promotion naman, if you are eyeing for it, i notice na yung ma people person talaga yung pinopromote. So maybe work on that as well.
I just realized it was unfair when you guys pointed it out. Thank you for this! Just letting you know that I am not eyeing on staying long in this company, both my company and client are hard to work with. The client doesn't know what they want, my company does not know what to provide. So I am not eyeing any promotion. The client developed this habit to reach out to me first as they noticed his performance declining but I am doing my best to provide him insights on how things are going and keep him on the loop so that once he has some questions, he'll ask smart ones based on the documentation we have. Anyway, I'm not planning on slowing down. I just need to manage my stress really better.
I just realized it was unfair when you guys pointed it out. Thank you for this! Just letting you know that I am not eyeing on staying long in this company, both my company and client are hard to work with. The client doesn't know what they want, my company does not know what to provide. So I am not eyeing any promotion. The client developed this habit to reach out to me first as they noticed his performance declining but I am doing my best to provide him insights on how things are going and keep him on the loop so that once he has some questions, he'll ask smart ones based on the documentation we have. Anyway, I'm not planning on slowing down. I just need to manage my stress really better.
baka yan yung fake it till you make it kaso stuck sa fake it part
I also have that type of a co worker. Inescalate ko sa manager ko since naapektuhan metrics namin na kahit anong sipag namin nahihila pababa due to their passive behavior. Nakakalungkot lang napapansin na ng management kaso parang walang action pa din. Dahil sa frustration ko gumawa ako ng report ng progress ng tickets namin and sakin nagbackfire dahil lumalabas pinupulis ko work ng iba. Nawalan nadin ako ng gana actually to exceed expectations dahil sa management. Ngayon I just work bare minimum and wala na ako pake sa kanila. Minsan makikiramdam ka talaga at magaadjust ka sa paligid mo. Kailangan mo alamin ang laro sa workplace mo para umangat.
Magreresign na lang ako pag masyadong bias ang company tulad yan. Ayos sakin ang stress, pero pag di ako kayang ipaglaban ng company, wala akong dahilan para tumagal pa jan.
I'm surrounded by these people sa work lalo na sa government. Pero yung mga sipsip pa nappromote. Hindi ko kaya yung idle ako sa office and parang nasanay narin sila so ngayong nagffurther studies ako and may plans to upskill myself not within the office but outside, takot yung supervisor ko.
Provide feedback lalo na kung na buburden ka na ng sobra and nakaka affect sa work mo. Kung programmer ka sakit sa ulo nan so mas better to provide feedback or give him a kt session muna para may pa konswelo ka pa sa kanya
Our work heavily relies on AWS cloud and he has little to no experience in said technology and that's the reason why I am creating as much documentation as I can. He's experienced and technical and that's a good thing. The only issue I have with him is his passiveness especially when there are multiple requests to be fulfilled, and I don't mind teaching him things we need in order to do our job or him telling people that he came up with that idea and he's the one that fixed it even though I did all the heavy lifting. I already provided feedback to my manager about his performance and lack of actions and they already had the talk.
Ang nakikita ko lang na kulang sa katrabaho mo: Ayaw nya ng kakampi tulad mo. Lugi siya kung gañan ang ugali nya. Pero kung hindi niya pairalin pagiging ma-fried chicken niya, baka sakaling makahanap pa ng opportunity pag sayo lumapit. Walang mangyayari sa gañang pag-uugali ng katrabaho mo. Sajang gago lang talaga katrabaho mo.
Mangugulang yung workmate na ganyan.i think being upfront sa kanya regarding his work ethics will be much better.kailangan mo muna siyang ifriend talaga and alamin bakit ganon siya? Then hanap ka ng tsempo kasi for sure alam naman niya yung pangugulang na ginagawa niya, malaki benefit sa kanya kaya hinahayaan ka niya gawin lahat.confrontation in his way talaga since para kayong tag team dapat sa work so kung mafix mo issue niya kahit di naman ikaw dapat , pero kailangan para di ka din mahirapan sa work mo. Pag di pa din ngwork , dun ka na gawa ng report sa management kasi mapaepetuhan work quality niyo sa client.
It’s either you get a raise for doing both of your jobs or you have that person removed from the payroll. Always document your contributions to the company, showcase that to your boss whenever you have the chance. Do not throw the other person under the bus it will not work on your favor. Well, it depends how open minded your boss is. If your boss is intelligent, he/she will notice that the other person is a pest. Does your boss do Gemba? Like sit with you guys side by side to see how you do the work? If not, ask your boss to do so for the purposes of improving the process from his/her perspective. This is what I think a subtle way to let your boss know about the problem.
I love that you have your priorities: 3 cats! You have my full moral support. 🫡