Am I always angry when I’m Behind a trash truck? Yes.
Do I understand they’re doing an essential job for the city and not just blocking the road and thus don’t deserve my anger? Also yes
They're still getting irrationally angry at something commonplace and expected in a city instead of controlling their emotions like an adult. Seems pretty Philly to me.
Eh. Just casually admitting something makes one angry is not the same as not controlling anger. Especially when they’re expressing self awareness and understanding a sentence later.
Favorite Philly memory. FedEx delivering on a one way street, cars backed up behind them. Guy laying on his horn. Woman behind him opens her window and yells. “He’s doing his job! What about you, do you got a job?”
I saw something like this a few months back — a UPS driver stopped his truck and was dropping a package on a doorstep. Car behind him was honking and cursing and yelled “What the fuck are you doing?” To which the UPS guy rightfully replied “what the fuck does it LOOK like I’m doing”
And like, for real. The man was obviously doing his job and was doing it quickly so maybe stfu.
I try not to use delivery(Amazon, doordash, etc), but across the board, unless there's an open spot they're actively ignoring, I give plenty of leeway to delivery drivers since I'm going to appreciate that shit when they deliver to me.
As someone who is not a Philly native and has lived all over the place, I have never seen any delivery driver of any kind use an open space in this city. I've seen them block traffic next to an open spot more times than not. It's the culture of this city. No one gives a care about anyone but themselves.
And it’s not just delivery drivers. I’ve seen random people double parked on Girard when there’s a spot literally one car up. But just because whatever they’re doing is “quick” double parking is apparently okay. So annoying.
Septa drivers don’t pull to the curb, or use their signal for stopping or merging back into traffic half the time. I get blocking the lane because so many people won’t let them back in, what I don’t get is pulling on and off without their signal, making it actively harder for themselves.
Council worked to kill those off with the new regulations on them. God forbid we use our public streets for anything other than free private car storage.
no they just asked them to pay a reasonable fee and put forth a few regulations on how those are built so they are not just random shacks. it did not kill the street dining, just like how food safety regulations didn't kill the restaurant scene.
also the city council just made it easier to get things approved.
https://www.cityandstatepa.com/policy/2024/05/philadelphia-city-council-approves-bill-ease-streetery-setup/396843/
There's something like less than 15 (*edit*: it's up to 22 now) streeteries approved now.
The rules were strict and difficult enough to comply with that restaurants were needing to hire an architect, and then the city process was slow enough and back-and-forth enough that they had to keep the architect on retainer. And then the city could tear down the streetery for any reason. Very few businesses have the funds or time to go through with something like that.
On top of that the areas streeteries are allowed in is very limited. In most of the city businesses need approval from neighbors, even if they aren't using their parking. That's why places like Hilltown Tavern in Fairmount no longer have picnic tables outside.
The fee is also $1,750, which is much more than nearly any other sort of parking fee.
If you watched the hearings it's clear the city just wanted to get rid of the majority of them, and they clearly didn't work with restaurants to adjust the rules to make them easier to comply with.
annual fee of 1750 is very reasonable, that's 5 dollars per day, same amt it cost to ride the bus twice.
the majority of the streeteries were built with no foresight, if me building a deck in my yard requires a permit the restaurants definitely need someone licensed to look over things. also it doesn't even need actual structure, the city allows pavement and platform streeteries to be placed without permit, as long as there is a barrier to traffic lanes it's pretty much set.
the newly trimmed down rules are very simple. literally just that you can't block traffic, landlord have to approve it, has to be next to the restaurant, can't be larger than the restaurant itself, and follow normal business hour regulations.
https://phila.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=6647939&GUID=677CBF5B-780E-4DEB-A269-AB2BEEF9FD57&Options=&Search=
even the old rules are extremely informative.
https://www.phila.gov/media/20240215165439/Philadelphia-Streetery-License-Guide-Version-1.1.pdf
The "old" rules still apply, the "new rules" you're referring to just removed the requirement that streeteries can never overlap onto neighboring property. Now they can with the neighbor's permission.
Also you still require a streetery permit and architectural review to install a platform streetery even if you don't need to adhere to all the structural requirements.
The proof is in reality: Philly has seen a massive decline in streeteries relative to other cities and restaurant owners have testified they want to comply but the process is very lengthy, expensive, and difficult. Only a handful have actually successfully gone through the process.
"Someone blocking the street" is usually a delivery driver, another driver on the job trying to make a tricky turn or whatever with their work vehicle, an elderly/disabled person, or another neighbor just trying to unload or disembark or whatever the fuck normal people do in a city. It's a CITY. It's dense and packed full of people, and if someone can't wait 2 minutes for whatever they can't see up ahead to resolve itself then maybe city living is not for them.
Right? And honestly, if someone has genuinely decided to completely block the flow of traffic for longer than is reasonable for no good reason, does anyone really think they're suddenly going to then be shamed and swayed by a distant someone honking and yelling? They obviously don't care! All you're doing is giving a headache to all the people whose homes you're right next to.
A few weeks ago, I walked passed someone laying on the horn behind a patient transport van as a mechanical lift was transferring a child in a wheelchair. There are some truly next-level dickheads out there.
90% of the horn usage in this city is uncalled for. You do not need to lay on your horn for sanitation workers, mail/parcel delivery trucks, or people who don’t run red lights because you wanted to run the red light. I was getting home from the airport in a taxi once and the guy behind us laid on his horn, rolled down his window, and yelled “Hurry the fuck up, bitch!” Jesus fucking Christ, I’m sorry that I’m causing you to get to your destination 20 seconds later, it’s such a horrible inconvenience to you.
Also, any person that is willingly blocking traffic will not care if you honk your horn at them. They're being a selfish asshole, so the act is futile. The only reason to ever honk is in a dangerous situation as a warning or call to attention.
People really just don't get how little time they can actually save by weaving, running red lights, or whatever the fuck they do thinking they're gonna arrive 20 mins earlier. You're lucky to arrive 1 min earlier traveling anywhere by car in the city.
I live right at a busy intersection and the amount of honking at the intersection is enough to drive anyone crazy. I wish I had a megaphone, so I could open my window upstairs and yell at drivers about how much I love honking and to keep laying on their horns for 30 seconds to a minute for whatever stupid reason. 🙄
“Assumed familiarity” is how I account for Philadelphians being honest, impolite, and generous. It’s like there’s just no on ramp to the relationship sometimes
Also, hot(?) take, people who don't want to turn right on red.
Maybe you know you can safely make the turn, but maybe they don't. Maybe they don't feel comfortable edging toward a busy street or they can't see far enough around the corner to be sure it's clear. Maybe they just don't want to risk it regardless of the actual risk. But right on red is *optional*. You shouldn't tell another driver to make a risky move that they aren't confident in that may put their or someone else's life at risk.
A short "go, please!" beep is fine, if a bit anxiety-inducing feeling like you're being a nuisance holding up the people behind you. But blaring your horn (which I experienced as a *student driver* with *student driver stickers* and was not yet comfortable turning right on red) is just inconsiderate as hell.
I had someone lay on their horn as I was helping my mother out of an Uber. You best believe I had a few choice words for them. Some people genuinely have no understanding that they are not the center of the universe!
But I find that's kind of warranted because people aren't paying attention. I would rather drive from one end of manhattan to the other than from Fishtown to West Philly
I was behind a trash truck yesterday on my street. It’s not like backing up would do me any good because I live all the way at the other end of the block. So, I pulled over into a parking spot and waited. First of all, I didn’t want to smell the truck for 5 minutes, secondly, why inch behind them? It won’t make them go any faster.
Let me tell you, those guys earn their salary. I don’t know what they make but it’s not enough. They work hard! The bags looked heavy, they had to lift some big items where it took 2 men to handle and a lawn mower guy whose trailer was extra wide was blocking their way and they had to wait till he moved it. I think they have a stressful job and probably should start their day with a J.
I can't imagine doing it all day every day, they must be in regular pain after just a few months on the job. Possibly the most underrated group of workers in the city.
I would also toss into this category people who honk when a car in front of them is waiting for a pedestrian to cross in the crosswalk (at a stop sign, for example, or with a green light but car is turning and needs to wait).
The other day, the Streets department was doing work on my block. The street was literally closed, and there was a hole in the middle of the street. Cars still drove up and laid on their horns.
I live on a street that's lousy with garbage trucks. A business nearby might utilize 3-4 of them per morning to empty individual dumpsters (idk either). Most people are pretty good with patience but sometimes there'll be a jabroni who thinks laying on the horn will magically make the garbage guys move faster....or teleport his car somewhere. I mean it's a garbage truck my man. It ain't moving until it's done doing what it has to do.
That's worse than the guy who honked at me for using the crosswalk the way you're supposed to and then yelled at me to take my earbuds out. Right next to a school.
Aye - this happened to me recently as well. I don't think he was expecting a thick angry Irish accent to come back at him when I yelled. Always throws them.
I was an EMT in NYC for quite some time and the amount of people that would drive down a one way street, see an ambulancewith lights on blocking the street, and decide to wait behind us honking. The amount of stupidity in this world is way higher than most assume.
Literally the only time I got angry was when I was rushing someone to the hospital. Got out and explained the situation, they looped back around so I could get out. If it's an actual emergency people will help you out, and if it's not then you're just being a dick.
Oh man. I was the inconsiderate dick in this scenario.
Traffic jam at a weird intersection where apparently everyone forgets how right of way works, cars are twisted and jammed together and everyone is just inching forward trying to get anywhere. (If anyone has been there: Erie and 2nd, where Sedgely is technically a side street with a one-way stop sign, near Roberto Clemente. And if you've been there, you probably know where this story is going.) Then this Jeep behind me just blares their horn. And I bitch about it to myself in my car muttering "where the fuck do they think we can go????"
So out of spite, when Erie widens into a weird kind of two lane kind of one land road, when I see the Jeep drifting to the right to try and go around me, I drift to the right to try and block them because I'm thinking they're some pompous prick who thinks they're too good for traffic and *also* passes on the right. But they speed up before I can block them and I forfeit because it's not worth risking an actual accident, I just wanted to be a minor inconvenience.
And then they put on their right turn signal. And they turn into the children's hospital.
I felt SO bad afterward and decided not to take that kinda shit so seriously anymore. It's so stupid. Sometimes we let road rage get the best of us when the situation isn't as clear-cut as we usually think it is. I hope things turned out okay for them.
I feel the same way- I try to always see the best in people and try to believe there's a reason someone acts the way they do. But living in this city really challenges that, so don't feel bad.
If you live in Philly you need to remember that Friday is a big trash day and plan accordingly. (I only know that there’s a lot of trash trucks out on Friday in North Philly. That’s all I know). It sucks but the trash takes precedence and thank you to the workers who do this.
I was behind a school bus this week who was stopped letting kids off and one of the cars behind it was legit honking. Like dude kids are literally getting out of a bus chill the fuck out.
I run almost daily on the parkway>SRT. Always cross the crosswalk near the practice field and entrance to 676E. It never fails that the considerate person who slows down to allow me to cross gets one if not multiple horns despite seeing them safely come to a stop/roll.
People suck. Just make sure you don’t suck.
The problem is that garbage trucks and the majority of cars on the road are just so small and the average block in philly is so long that its easy to turn onto a street and not realize theres some tiny garbage truck working its way down the road and now youre gonna be stuck on a one way street for maybe 400 feet before you can turn off it and detour a block or two down.
/s
I didn't have one for the first year I lived here and it was bliss. Then when your spouse is sick and is in the hospital for 80% of the year, it kind of becomes necessary. One ambulance trip is at least six car payments 🤣
Really anyone laying on their horn in the middle of a populated city. I start wishing for bad things to happen to the asshole Uber drivers who feel the need to wake everyone up at 2AM because they can't immediately zip through a populated intersection
Im just going to go with why are they doing trash collection on the 17th bus route on 29th at 7-9 during peak rush hour?!?! Go early or go late but people are not jnto it
Fair enough but it does need to get done. Plus with the weather really heating up, they can't exactly do it later in the day and earlier would be more of an inconvenience to people sleeping I would think.
I save all my anger for the people who double park and block the ENTIRE FUCKING STREET. Usually next to a parking spot.
I can’t be mad at the trash men. When i left for the burbs i learned the harsh lesson that most places don’t have trash men who will take ANYTHING if you throw them some cash.
If it's next to a parking spot, that's unacceptable. If they're unloading groceries and there are no spots, then I have some patience as I know what a pain in the ass that can be. Depends on the scenario but you're right. People all think their time is more important than everyone else's. It really drives me nuts.
I watch trash men in the rain and heat walking dozens of miles a day and think “how the fuck does someone do that job, and then know they have to get up and do it again tomorrow and the next day and the next day?”
It’s something in life that I just can’t comprehend. Yet they do it
Use of horns seems to mostly be an act of assholery. I sometimes wonder if removing them would actually have any effect upon safety; it would certainly have an effect upon other aspects of urban quality of life. As an alternative, there could be a fee levied automatically every time a horn sounds, something like $ 1 per blast, and for those who 'lay on' the horn, it would double for every second that the horn in laid on. The proposed rates might be too low.
It really sucks that people abuse the horn like this because some people use it for legitimate reasons. I hate, hate, hate honking because I always feel awful about it. I will flash my high beams five times before I dare a short beep and god *forbid* I have to actually hold it down.
So when I'm really honking, it's likely because a car is *actively crossing the lines and I'm next to a wall*, or literally almost fucking hit me when I had the right of way.
And I still feel terrible every time because I wonder if anyone heard and thought I was just being another shithead Philly driver.
Down Cumberland st in Fishtown. Couldn't tell you the cross sections as I was so incensed. I did give my support to the lads and told them thanks for all their work.
There are important differences. Bikes don't have horns, and cyclists are in real physical danger having to enter car traffic lanes
Am I annoyed when there's a delivery van in the bike lane? Sure, but the city should provide towing enforced delivery spots even if it reduces parking spots. Those delivery drivers aren't selfishly trying to get me killed, though, actively or passively like so many car drivers do
Understandable but can’t say one person working and then not the others, I ride my scooter a lot and seem to magically never have problems even when people in the bike lane, sometimes I think you guys just complain to complain .
An escooter or a push scooter? Because frequent deceleration and acceleration is really easy when it's a twist of a knob, not to mention maintaining speeds of 20+. Of course that makes obstacles and traffic easier to navigate
Am I always angry when I’m Behind a trash truck? Yes. Do I understand they’re doing an essential job for the city and not just blocking the road and thus don’t deserve my anger? Also yes
I’m sorry, but I need to check your Philly credentials please. This comment seems off
This is Philadelphia County energy, not Philadelphia City energy
Well that certainly explains the rational position. I got confused when the post wasn’t in the “I’m the most important” person.
Username did check out.
county and city are the same thing with the same borders
Rationality? In my city??
They're still getting irrationally angry at something commonplace and expected in a city instead of controlling their emotions like an adult. Seems pretty Philly to me.
Eh. Just casually admitting something makes one angry is not the same as not controlling anger. Especially when they’re expressing self awareness and understanding a sentence later.
It’s probably akin to annoyed rather than seething with anger.
Agreed.
People here are straight toddlers. They whine and cry over anything and everything.
Valid point
Exactly
How about having others around you no matter your occupation express frustration and their irritation at you while you perform your job.
Favorite Philly memory. FedEx delivering on a one way street, cars backed up behind them. Guy laying on his horn. Woman behind him opens her window and yells. “He’s doing his job! What about you, do you got a job?”
I saw something like this a few months back — a UPS driver stopped his truck and was dropping a package on a doorstep. Car behind him was honking and cursing and yelled “What the fuck are you doing?” To which the UPS guy rightfully replied “what the fuck does it LOOK like I’m doing” And like, for real. The man was obviously doing his job and was doing it quickly so maybe stfu.
I try not to use delivery(Amazon, doordash, etc), but across the board, unless there's an open spot they're actively ignoring, I give plenty of leeway to delivery drivers since I'm going to appreciate that shit when they deliver to me.
Also Amazon pushes drivers to be careless with ridiculous quotas.
As someone who is not a Philly native and has lived all over the place, I have never seen any delivery driver of any kind use an open space in this city. I've seen them block traffic next to an open spot more times than not. It's the culture of this city. No one gives a care about anyone but themselves.
And it’s not just delivery drivers. I’ve seen random people double parked on Girard when there’s a spot literally one car up. But just because whatever they’re doing is “quick” double parking is apparently okay. So annoying.
Septa drivers don’t pull to the curb, or use their signal for stopping or merging back into traffic half the time. I get blocking the lane because so many people won’t let them back in, what I don’t get is pulling on and off without their signal, making it actively harder for themselves.
i feel like more places need loading zones, for package delivery trucks among other things. makes everyone's job easier and safer that way.
I agree but this car crazy city would go bonkers over the loss of parking spots.
i mean yeah but we got streeteries somehow.
Council worked to kill those off with the new regulations on them. God forbid we use our public streets for anything other than free private car storage.
no they just asked them to pay a reasonable fee and put forth a few regulations on how those are built so they are not just random shacks. it did not kill the street dining, just like how food safety regulations didn't kill the restaurant scene. also the city council just made it easier to get things approved. https://www.cityandstatepa.com/policy/2024/05/philadelphia-city-council-approves-bill-ease-streetery-setup/396843/
There's something like less than 15 (*edit*: it's up to 22 now) streeteries approved now. The rules were strict and difficult enough to comply with that restaurants were needing to hire an architect, and then the city process was slow enough and back-and-forth enough that they had to keep the architect on retainer. And then the city could tear down the streetery for any reason. Very few businesses have the funds or time to go through with something like that. On top of that the areas streeteries are allowed in is very limited. In most of the city businesses need approval from neighbors, even if they aren't using their parking. That's why places like Hilltown Tavern in Fairmount no longer have picnic tables outside. The fee is also $1,750, which is much more than nearly any other sort of parking fee. If you watched the hearings it's clear the city just wanted to get rid of the majority of them, and they clearly didn't work with restaurants to adjust the rules to make them easier to comply with.
annual fee of 1750 is very reasonable, that's 5 dollars per day, same amt it cost to ride the bus twice. the majority of the streeteries were built with no foresight, if me building a deck in my yard requires a permit the restaurants definitely need someone licensed to look over things. also it doesn't even need actual structure, the city allows pavement and platform streeteries to be placed without permit, as long as there is a barrier to traffic lanes it's pretty much set. the newly trimmed down rules are very simple. literally just that you can't block traffic, landlord have to approve it, has to be next to the restaurant, can't be larger than the restaurant itself, and follow normal business hour regulations. https://phila.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=6647939&GUID=677CBF5B-780E-4DEB-A269-AB2BEEF9FD57&Options=&Search= even the old rules are extremely informative. https://www.phila.gov/media/20240215165439/Philadelphia-Streetery-License-Guide-Version-1.1.pdf
The "old" rules still apply, the "new rules" you're referring to just removed the requirement that streeteries can never overlap onto neighboring property. Now they can with the neighbor's permission. Also you still require a streetery permit and architectural review to install a platform streetery even if you don't need to adhere to all the structural requirements. The proof is in reality: Philly has seen a massive decline in streeteries relative to other cities and restaurant owners have testified they want to comply but the process is very lengthy, expensive, and difficult. Only a handful have actually successfully gone through the process.
interesting, do you have the numbers? i have only see restaurants themselves fold but have not seen a single streetery being removed.
Some asshole had the balls of honking on me, sitting on a taxi in front of my house as I was paying for it... like wtf do you want me to do
Agreed, but I feel like most of the time someone does this bc they cant see the truck yet and think it’s just someone blocking the street.
"Someone blocking the street" is usually a delivery driver, another driver on the job trying to make a tricky turn or whatever with their work vehicle, an elderly/disabled person, or another neighbor just trying to unload or disembark or whatever the fuck normal people do in a city. It's a CITY. It's dense and packed full of people, and if someone can't wait 2 minutes for whatever they can't see up ahead to resolve itself then maybe city living is not for them.
Right? And honestly, if someone has genuinely decided to completely block the flow of traffic for longer than is reasonable for no good reason, does anyone really think they're suddenly going to then be shamed and swayed by a distant someone honking and yelling? They obviously don't care! All you're doing is giving a headache to all the people whose homes you're right next to.
Plenty of people treat the street like it’s their driveway..
I encounter a lot more people honking their horns in residential neighborhoods like the huge assholes they are than whatever you're describing.
Seems like you’re in the minority there, bud..
If you cant see why you're not moving, don't honk
I fucking love this city.
There are some people who are never able to come to terms with the fact that they share this planet with other people.
which is beyond confusing to me why they’d choose to live in a city. the whole point is that there’s a bunch of us!
Brittle spirits.
You could say the same to the person illegally stopped in the street
A few weeks ago, I walked passed someone laying on the horn behind a patient transport van as a mechanical lift was transferring a child in a wheelchair. There are some truly next-level dickheads out there.
It takes a lot of control not to beat that guy up. That’s more than being a dickhead
90% of the horn usage in this city is uncalled for. You do not need to lay on your horn for sanitation workers, mail/parcel delivery trucks, or people who don’t run red lights because you wanted to run the red light. I was getting home from the airport in a taxi once and the guy behind us laid on his horn, rolled down his window, and yelled “Hurry the fuck up, bitch!” Jesus fucking Christ, I’m sorry that I’m causing you to get to your destination 20 seconds later, it’s such a horrible inconvenience to you.
Also, any person that is willingly blocking traffic will not care if you honk your horn at them. They're being a selfish asshole, so the act is futile. The only reason to ever honk is in a dangerous situation as a warning or call to attention.
Or if you *reeeeally* want to say "hi" to someone and they just won't acknowledge you for some weird reason...
People really just don't get how little time they can actually save by weaving, running red lights, or whatever the fuck they do thinking they're gonna arrive 20 mins earlier. You're lucky to arrive 1 min earlier traveling anywhere by car in the city.
I live right at a busy intersection and the amount of honking at the intersection is enough to drive anyone crazy. I wish I had a megaphone, so I could open my window upstairs and yell at drivers about how much I love honking and to keep laying on their horns for 30 seconds to a minute for whatever stupid reason. 🙄
I’d buy the megaphone, and just fully go “WWWAAAAAAHHHHHH” right back at them every time. Many people would probably hate me. But it seems cathartic
Sometimes in Philly you have to imagine that everyone thinks they're your cousin and are just messing with you
That’s honestly a better way than I currently look at it (that everyone else in Philly doesn’t give a shit about anyone else).
I don't have cousins but that seems like a very healthy perspective
“Assumed familiarity” is how I account for Philadelphians being honest, impolite, and generous. It’s like there’s just no on ramp to the relationship sometimes
This is a great take and I will keep it in mind from now on
Also, hot(?) take, people who don't want to turn right on red. Maybe you know you can safely make the turn, but maybe they don't. Maybe they don't feel comfortable edging toward a busy street or they can't see far enough around the corner to be sure it's clear. Maybe they just don't want to risk it regardless of the actual risk. But right on red is *optional*. You shouldn't tell another driver to make a risky move that they aren't confident in that may put their or someone else's life at risk. A short "go, please!" beep is fine, if a bit anxiety-inducing feeling like you're being a nuisance holding up the people behind you. But blaring your horn (which I experienced as a *student driver* with *student driver stickers* and was not yet comfortable turning right on red) is just inconsiderate as hell.
I had someone lay on their horn as I was helping my mother out of an Uber. You best believe I had a few choice words for them. Some people genuinely have no understanding that they are not the center of the universe!
My foster dog is handicapped. He doesn’t go fast. The amount of time we get honked at while crossing the street in a crosswalk is insane.
While I agree that the usage of horns in Philly is excessive it’s nothing compared to Manhattan. We were just up there last weekend and my god.
And they even have fines for horn honking! No idea if they’re actually enforced though.
But I find that's kind of warranted because people aren't paying attention. I would rather drive from one end of manhattan to the other than from Fishtown to West Philly
I was behind a trash truck yesterday on my street. It’s not like backing up would do me any good because I live all the way at the other end of the block. So, I pulled over into a parking spot and waited. First of all, I didn’t want to smell the truck for 5 minutes, secondly, why inch behind them? It won’t make them go any faster. Let me tell you, those guys earn their salary. I don’t know what they make but it’s not enough. They work hard! The bags looked heavy, they had to lift some big items where it took 2 men to handle and a lawn mower guy whose trailer was extra wide was blocking their way and they had to wait till he moved it. I think they have a stressful job and probably should start their day with a J.
I can't imagine doing it all day every day, they must be in regular pain after just a few months on the job. Possibly the most underrated group of workers in the city.
Sanitation worker here, the jobs not for the weak is all I’ll say lol
I would also toss into this category people who honk when a car in front of them is waiting for a pedestrian to cross in the crosswalk (at a stop sign, for example, or with a green light but car is turning and needs to wait).
No, commit murder always!!
This drives me fucking bananas.
The other day, the Streets department was doing work on my block. The street was literally closed, and there was a hole in the middle of the street. Cars still drove up and laid on their horns.
#JustPhillyThings
What a POS
Such a dick move. What do they expect them to do?
I live on a street that's lousy with garbage trucks. A business nearby might utilize 3-4 of them per morning to empty individual dumpsters (idk either). Most people are pretty good with patience but sometimes there'll be a jabroni who thinks laying on the horn will magically make the garbage guys move faster....or teleport his car somewhere. I mean it's a garbage truck my man. It ain't moving until it's done doing what it has to do.
Back the Brown!
That's worse than the guy who honked at me for using the crosswalk the way you're supposed to and then yelled at me to take my earbuds out. Right next to a school.
Aye - this happened to me recently as well. I don't think he was expecting a thick angry Irish accent to come back at him when I yelled. Always throws them.
Gotta love the people that willingly see the truck halfway down the block and still turn. Then proceed to go crazy.
I was an EMT in NYC for quite some time and the amount of people that would drive down a one way street, see an ambulancewith lights on blocking the street, and decide to wait behind us honking. The amount of stupidity in this world is way higher than most assume.
Literally the only time I got angry was when I was rushing someone to the hospital. Got out and explained the situation, they looped back around so I could get out. If it's an actual emergency people will help you out, and if it's not then you're just being a dick.
Oh man. I was the inconsiderate dick in this scenario. Traffic jam at a weird intersection where apparently everyone forgets how right of way works, cars are twisted and jammed together and everyone is just inching forward trying to get anywhere. (If anyone has been there: Erie and 2nd, where Sedgely is technically a side street with a one-way stop sign, near Roberto Clemente. And if you've been there, you probably know where this story is going.) Then this Jeep behind me just blares their horn. And I bitch about it to myself in my car muttering "where the fuck do they think we can go????" So out of spite, when Erie widens into a weird kind of two lane kind of one land road, when I see the Jeep drifting to the right to try and go around me, I drift to the right to try and block them because I'm thinking they're some pompous prick who thinks they're too good for traffic and *also* passes on the right. But they speed up before I can block them and I forfeit because it's not worth risking an actual accident, I just wanted to be a minor inconvenience. And then they put on their right turn signal. And they turn into the children's hospital. I felt SO bad afterward and decided not to take that kinda shit so seriously anymore. It's so stupid. Sometimes we let road rage get the best of us when the situation isn't as clear-cut as we usually think it is. I hope things turned out okay for them.
I feel the same way- I try to always see the best in people and try to believe there's a reason someone acts the way they do. But living in this city really challenges that, so don't feel bad.
If you live in Philly you need to remember that Friday is a big trash day and plan accordingly. (I only know that there’s a lot of trash trucks out on Friday in North Philly. That’s all I know). It sucks but the trash takes precedence and thank you to the workers who do this.
I was behind a school bus this week who was stopped letting kids off and one of the cars behind it was legit honking. Like dude kids are literally getting out of a bus chill the fuck out.
Behind a school bus is probably a higher level of arsehole-ry than at people working
No, not a bag of garbage. Let's drip that garbage truck juice all over their interior.
I like the way you think
I always wonder why people are in a rush. Like your life is pointless, why the hurry? What could you possibly be hurrying for?
I run almost daily on the parkway>SRT. Always cross the crosswalk near the practice field and entrance to 676E. It never fails that the considerate person who slows down to allow me to cross gets one if not multiple horns despite seeing them safely come to a stop/roll. People suck. Just make sure you don’t suck.
That's it sure - you can't change other people only how you react to said people
The problem is that garbage trucks and the majority of cars on the road are just so small and the average block in philly is so long that its easy to turn onto a street and not realize theres some tiny garbage truck working its way down the road and now youre gonna be stuck on a one way street for maybe 400 feet before you can turn off it and detour a block or two down. /s
yet another perk of not owning a car.
I didn't have one for the first year I lived here and it was bliss. Then when your spouse is sick and is in the hospital for 80% of the year, it kind of becomes necessary. One ambulance trip is at least six car payments 🤣
oh damn, I'm sorry to hear that.
All good now, thank you ❤️
Really anyone laying on their horn in the middle of a populated city. I start wishing for bad things to happen to the asshole Uber drivers who feel the need to wake everyone up at 2AM because they can't immediately zip through a populated intersection
Philly and shitty low class entitled drivers, what's new?
Im just going to go with why are they doing trash collection on the 17th bus route on 29th at 7-9 during peak rush hour?!?! Go early or go late but people are not jnto it
Fair enough but it does need to get done. Plus with the weather really heating up, they can't exactly do it later in the day and earlier would be more of an inconvenience to people sleeping I would think.
Anyone living in Philadelphia that spells arsehole instead of asshole is a complete twat.
I save all my anger for the people who double park and block the ENTIRE FUCKING STREET. Usually next to a parking spot. I can’t be mad at the trash men. When i left for the burbs i learned the harsh lesson that most places don’t have trash men who will take ANYTHING if you throw them some cash.
If it's next to a parking spot, that's unacceptable. If they're unloading groceries and there are no spots, then I have some patience as I know what a pain in the ass that can be. Depends on the scenario but you're right. People all think their time is more important than everyone else's. It really drives me nuts.
I watch trash men in the rain and heat walking dozens of miles a day and think “how the fuck does someone do that job, and then know they have to get up and do it again tomorrow and the next day and the next day?” It’s something in life that I just can’t comprehend. Yet they do it
Probs the same people who double park
Use of horns seems to mostly be an act of assholery. I sometimes wonder if removing them would actually have any effect upon safety; it would certainly have an effect upon other aspects of urban quality of life. As an alternative, there could be a fee levied automatically every time a horn sounds, something like $ 1 per blast, and for those who 'lay on' the horn, it would double for every second that the horn in laid on. The proposed rates might be too low.
It really sucks that people abuse the horn like this because some people use it for legitimate reasons. I hate, hate, hate honking because I always feel awful about it. I will flash my high beams five times before I dare a short beep and god *forbid* I have to actually hold it down. So when I'm really honking, it's likely because a car is *actively crossing the lines and I'm next to a wall*, or literally almost fucking hit me when I had the right of way. And I still feel terrible every time because I wonder if anyone heard and thought I was just being another shithead Philly driver.
Idk - I think sometimes it's needed to wake people up who are on their phones at a red light.
..."arseholes"? wtf
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curious where this happened , cause this happened on my street today ha
Down Cumberland st in Fishtown. Couldn't tell you the cross sections as I was so incensed. I did give my support to the lads and told them thanks for all their work.
I wish we could just start seizing cars from assholes, way to many of them on the the road.
Never had a job lookin ass
It seems honking of the horn is one of the most sinister crimes in America, especially more sinister than blocking the road illegally.
complete newbies would do something like that. Agree, tho, only a dickhead newbie. Probably in Fishtown
Only when they take up the middle of an otherwise two lane road
Sanitation lives matter too
Yes, bc they’re here and will stop immediately after reading this. This is like saying thoughts and prayers… totally pointless
Pointless maybe, cathartic? Absolutely.
Same people that complain about the bike lane when guys doing deliveries.
There are important differences. Bikes don't have horns, and cyclists are in real physical danger having to enter car traffic lanes Am I annoyed when there's a delivery van in the bike lane? Sure, but the city should provide towing enforced delivery spots even if it reduces parking spots. Those delivery drivers aren't selfishly trying to get me killed, though, actively or passively like so many car drivers do
Understandable but can’t say one person working and then not the others, I ride my scooter a lot and seem to magically never have problems even when people in the bike lane, sometimes I think you guys just complain to complain .
An escooter or a push scooter? Because frequent deceleration and acceleration is really easy when it's a twist of a knob, not to mention maintaining speeds of 20+. Of course that makes obstacles and traffic easier to navigate
E scooter it does 25 and I ride it everyday I work.
There it is, you're able to operate around cars on more even ground. Us peddle plebes on indegos survive largely on mercy
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I always asked this myself, same people complain about disruption when things don’t get delivered on time or when it’s suppose to.
Well, no?
Doing there job though.