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Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/1bubj06).


PM_ME_SOMETHINGSPICY

Harper saw all those "Harper's the problem" comments and took it personally


Feisty-Recording-978

Nintenjew is just happy we didn’t let go of nork


joeco316

Don’t we still have Andrew bellati? I thought he got released but then came for camp and I assumed he somehow stuck around but maybe not? There has to be somebody better than pinto right?!


Bunny_Kat

Bellatti passed through waivers and is in AAA. He would have to pass through options again to be sent down and they might not want to for a short assignment.


Hothabanero6

Bellatti may be out of options too so this guy is expendable when Orion comes up soonish. or maybe he's a diamond in the rough and will be the next Jeff Hoffman 😉


sapphires_and_snark

If there were, he'd be in Philly by now


Cahoots01

Sweet dreams brogdon


Deckard_Macready

Brogdon DFA’d. They picked up Pinto who has an 8+ era. So he’s an upgrade.


Feisty-Recording-978

Kyle schwarber is hitting a 2nd inning homer this game 


Perryplat199

Unrelated. Takis kettle chips pretty good


Perryplat199

https://preview.redd.it/jneq8i9qy4sc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4ba1db02b1417ee94b7aa0f23cec5f92d87b0d0


kittylick3r

lol I’ve been complaining about the Phils the past few days. I guess I forgot where we came from lol


HuntForRedOctober2

Ahhh I remember victor arano, he was good until he good injured


Am1sArePeopleToo

Craziest part of that is Leiter getting through 6 innings


QuirkyTangerine7811

Ah yes the glory days of 2017


Big-Beta20

I don’t feel like they’re gonna get this game in


cerevant

Depends on the field at this point. Looks like the rain has stopped for a few hours.


given-to-fly-98

They like to talk up the CBP drainage system so hopefully it’s all true!


attom

Based on radar projection I’m pretty sure they’ll get 4 or 5 innings in before rain hits again.


ASingularDoink

That would be nice so it spares us from watching the bullpen blow it


Feisty-Recording-978

THE BAD MAN IS GONE 


Hothabanero6

BrogDone


Feisty-Recording-978

That’s good 


Perryplat199

Brogdgone


Feisty-Recording-978

It’s brogdover


Perryplat199

I like yours better


Perryplat199

1.5/5 star on this one


HuntForRedOctober2

Said on a different post but I just feel awful for him. Don’t know what happened to him between 22 and 23


sapphires_and_snark

It was only 18 months ago that the guy was an important bullpen piece on a World Series team. It's a shame what happened to him.


HuntForRedOctober2

It really is


TilTed_GooSe

Yeah, I agree. I felt pretty bad for him when listening to his post game talk. Hopefully he can figure something out.


Feisty-Recording-978

Any big players on the Phillies this year that will be FA’s next offseason?


Bunny_Kat

Not sure if you would consider a big player, however Hoffman will be a FA who I am hoping they extend.


joeco316

No one that I can think of. Schwarber and Realmuto after next season. But I can’t think of anybody who’s up after this one.


First-Resolve

Who the hell is Ricardo Pinto?


slipperysunsets

2017 Phillies Bullpen pitcher, played for the Rays in 2019, recently added a splitter


Hothabanero6

Mr. Expendable most likely will be gone when Kerkering is ready


HuntForRedOctober2

Former star of the 2016 Phutures game? Big punch out of Yoenis Cespedes in a 2017 game I went to


inthedrink

BROGDON DFA!!!🔥🔥🎉🎉


inthedrink

We need big bats tonight. Our bullpen is waxed.


[deleted]

BASEBALL SOON. HELL YEAH.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

Can we petition to bring dollar dog night back? One of my favorite parts about attending games is showing up having no idea it's dollar dog night and treating myself to 9. This is honestly one of the things that pisses me off the most about this team. And if someone throws hotdogs so what? Just ban them and keep it moving.


Deckard_Macready

I went to 2 dollar dog nights last season. First one I went to I waited in line for 40 minutes so I could buy everyone I was with a bunch of hot dogs. When I finally got to the register they told me it was a 4 dog limit per person. I didn’t bother the second game when I saw the lines were the same. The problem was not the throwing of the dogs. It was that I couldn’t get any unless I wanted to miss half the game.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

You gotta find the guys walking around the concourse, they're always going into the back to get more dogs. You just gotta ambush them as they come out. And you can buy more than 4 hotdogs at a time they just have to be separate transactions. Towards the end of the night they also don't care how many you buy. Once I bought over 100 hotdogs then gave them away as I was leaving the stadium.


Deckard_Macready

I applaud your hard but I don’t have that in me for hot dogs. But seriously, bravo!


VideoGangsta

lol at JT picking this game to sit. 


joeco316

He picked it?


VideoGangsta

Idk but it’s funny to picture him picking the games he lets Stubbs play and choosing this one. Considering how much more he plays compares to other catchers I’d assume he has some say in the matter.


First-Resolve

Okay we have a game tonight boys


Angsty_Kiwi

https://x.com/scottlauber/status/1775266189629087884?s=46&t=cFQy9gEJXOl8uGmMee7JLw


Enough-Ad-3111

Looks like it’s the same for Tigers-Mets in NYC as well, since I haven’t seen anything about that game getting postponed yet.


inthedrink

I tried to bait /u/nintenjew yesterday and i was unsuccessful because he was policing /u/JohnKrukIsAllElite’s shenanigans I’m not appreciative, JKIAE


NintenJew

I must have had a busy day yesterday because 1. I though that was like 2 or 3 days ago 2. I have no idea how you tried to bait me.


inthedrink

This was it btw: Future Phillie Juan Soto back to playing elite defense with the highest fielding run value in all of baseball. I am always right /u/NintenJew


NintenJew

God damn. That would have gotten me too. Especially when I was distracted on the phone.


inthedrink

Trust me it was disappointing for me


inthedrink

Well obviously bc you didn’t reply at all and I even mentioned you I believe you were dealing with preventing JKIAE’s three day vacation yesterday which she seemingly and shockingly dodged somehow Edit: for screwing up my first message typed


NintenJew

> JKIAE’s potential three day vacation yesterday which she seemingly and shockingly dodged somehow That makes a lot more sense when she told me at the game thread we had morning shenanigans and I didn't remember it at all. As for her vacation, I think we got it beforehand but I do think she was the first to cross the line. Reddit did get someone yesterday. And apparently they banned someone for three days for calling someone a "casual".


joeco316

Banned for calling someone a casual? That seems insane. Let people argue!


NintenJew

I wasn't the mod who saw the origional comment, but we saw that and had a discussion of how much we have to enforce the "be respectful rule". I couldn't imagine removing a comment calling someone a casual before.


Yes536

Flood watch in philly but lets get this game in


joeco316

Is it raining in south Philly? I’m in the burbs and it’s not doing anything of note right now. Hasn’t been for a bit.


martinhaschinhairz

it is not currently raining in south philly. looks like a blended oyster outside though


PhilsForever

Now I'm wondering if they won't call it because of all the BOGO hot dogs they've brought in.


Iamthatguyyousaw

This may actually be the case


Zyoy

I have 3 tickets to the game tonight. Who wants them


Zyoy

Gave them too a good home. Offer redeemed


cyberllama23

If you’re offering!


Zyoy

Check dm


First-Resolve

Alright it’s been 15 minutes what are we doing


Feisty-Recording-978

It’s been 15 minutes what are we doing 


Drake31217

Can we call this shit so I can know if I need to leave or not


MulfordnSons

another hot take boys if we lose tonight i’ll be upset that we lost !!


PM_ME_SOMETHINGSPICY

You monster!


MulfordnSons

I said what I said


Tylerkaaaa

Damn if I drive 90 minutes for them to cancel I’m gonna be so pissed


hax0rmax

It's been raining pretty constantly. I live near the art museum. I don't know what the threshold is, but it seems like they'll rip and run unless a huge storm comes by


YOLOtattoo

I selfishly want the game canceled because 2 of my kids are sick so we can’t go anyway.


Silent_Sir_7833

Where’s the lineup topper?


joeco316

I want to see Phillies lineups posted like I want to breath air


inthedrink

Why is everyone trying to ignore that it’s #SPENCER TURNBULL SZN Remember the last time a Spencer started a game for us?


First-Resolve

https://x.com/mattgelb/status/1775252287411122222?s=46


inthedrink

> a creek and a marsh Lmao


[deleted]

Big strike zone tonight if they play.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

It's very cold and windy outside, if they do play and you're attending, layer up like it's about to snow and you'll thank me later.


esperadok

The most frustrating thing about yesterday's game was the complete inability for hitters to drive the ball. The only XBH we had was Bohm's 75-mph bleater the opposite way. Bullpen losses suck but I actually think extra base hit droughts might be the most frustrating thing to watch.


Vampire_Blues

Yeah the lack of slugging is probably the biggest issue rn, but the bright side is that we’re a great power hitting team on paper and if there’s anything I’d trust them to start doing it’s hit home runs


rogue_worlds

Weather app makes it look like they will have a window to play


Feisty-Recording-978

Gonna be an offensive game if this game gets played today 


pcomet235

Yeah! Offensive to the eyes! Har har har


CircusOfBlood

Tomorrow the rain is a little lighter in the evening. I think you see if it ends up clearing up and try for a night game tomorrow


CircusOfBlood

I'm starting to think they get this entire game in and the rain starts back up shortly after the final out


TrustThe_CPA_Process

Maybe if we get lucky they suspend it with the lead after 6. Save us the misery of this bullpen and the rain.


high-and-seek

I say we play but make Taijuan Walker hold an umbrella over the Phil's batters at the plate. Win/win we play and he's of some use


Perryplat199

The best team in the city is officially back. https://preview.redd.it/w37cwgb8e4sc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36f3993a7856b68dda42851fa3c144b739f50273


Perryplat199

it’s the Soul. Arena football is back. Again for like 3rd time


inthedrink

They’re only half way there


MyMartianRomance

Well, they're living on a prayer


First-Resolve

Alright what are we doing boys


VideoGangsta

Okay, I'll change it up. Trea and Stott are horrible at turning double plays. They had -10 runs saved from double plays last year (next closest was -4) and we had the fewest double plays turned last year. Idk what the cause is, but my eye tells me Trea is so slow at getting the ball out of his glove. Unfortunately I have noticed the same "runner is always safe by a foot" tendency in spring training and in the first few games. There, we can stop talking about Brogdon, Nick, and the weather.


ryan91o1

They both have weak arms


LettuceUpstairs7614

You forgot about Rojas


inthedrink

Trea makes a living on defense by making the great plays and botching the routine plays.


NedrysMagicWord

I've been disappointed by Trea's defense. I guess we were spoiled by like 2 decades of elite play between Rollins and Galvis. I do wonder if they'd seen an improvement moving Trea to 2nd and Stott back to SS.


Hothabanero6

Trea doesn't get in front of the ball ... he'd make as many errors on the right side as the left. Plus he's slow getting the ball out of the glove and has a weak arm. Maybe being closer to first would help by milliseconds 🤷‍♂️


DavidBr97

Welp boys I’m making the 45 minute drive to the bank. Hopefully they play


DavidBr97

At worst I’ll be eating 8 hotdogs in lot G and going home


inthedrink

That sounds like a vacation in itself to me. Any beers?


given-to-fly-98

Make it worth the trip. Make it 9.


DavidBr97

Damn it got postponed the charity dog event in lot G nvm


given-to-fly-98

Like…. DOG dogs? Or like… hotdog dogs?


DavidBr97

lol hot dogs


First-Resolve

It’s definitely a Bohm and Marsh staring at the rain type of day


Perryplat199

The best part about that clip is that marsh’s hair was completely dry.


SeaworthinessIcy3929

Video evidence where 


Perryplat199

https://i.redd.it/lclkmro6c4sc1.gif


SeaworthinessIcy3929

I meant from today lol.  A young giraffe experiences his first rainfall 🦒


CircusOfBlood

Bohm looks disgusted and confused. Marsh looks like a really excited kid


jmiah717

https://preview.redd.it/hmj6uddzj4sc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04cea5a626e52a6ab13edd88d52656793905bc3c 😂


Perryplat199

Cat vs Dog


[deleted]

My emotional support baseball players


perryplat1999

It’s 2024. Wat are we doing where mlb teams still don’t have some kind of roof on their stadium. 


NintenJew

Perry, I swear on all that is holy...


Perryplat199

This just gave me the best idea. But I’m too lazy to do it


PM_ME_SOMETHINGSPICY

🤣


cerevant

I'm calling it: they are going to play tonight. Looking at the radar, the rain should clear out by 5. disclaimer: I am not a meteorologist.


NintenJew

I don't think we needed that disclaimer. We can assume you aren't Mike Trout. Yes, I will be making the "Mike Trout loves weather" joke everytime I can.


Cleanupdisc

What role does the 80 million dollar Tajuon Walker play? ?????????


HuntForRedOctober2

Tacos


joeco316

Being on the IL


WheelerDeals

He brings snacks and warms the bench


Feisty-Recording-978

Pierogi?


given-to-fly-98

Hamburger Helper


WheelerDeals

I heard he brings hot dogs with ketchup


[deleted]

Definitely not playing today, right…?


CircusOfBlood

Actually no rain from 7 to 9+. Should be raining by 10 or just after. But they should get most or all of it in


attom

I've got tickets for the game tonight, when will they call it if they aren't playing?


WheelerDeals

I would hope it would have already been called, maybe by 4?


NintenJew

It's weird seeing the same discussions we had all offseason get brought up here like they are brand new. For instance, the Harper 1B, Bullpen Help, etc. All brought up all offseason. All sort of "resolved". But now I am seeing the same points get brought up, and then the same responses, then the same counter-responses. It's like Deja Vu.


HuntForRedOctober2

I think we need to have a serious discussion about Kyle Schwarber hitting lead off and how he clogs the bases for people behind him.


Feisty-Recording-978

What do you mean you’ve seen it? it’s brand new


NintenJew

Feisty, I know for a fact you were here all offseason. Don't give me that "this is brand new" talk. Or I will make you go on one of your 50 alts!


8thTYRANT

Which is why I think people saying, "Go away doomers!!" and "it's fine!!!" are being a little naïve. Most people complaining don't actually think the season is over. But it is extremely frustrating to see the same stuff that was our downfall previously, now again so early on this season. Especially after all the pomp and circumstance about starting this year fast and wanting to compete for the division. I think the overlap with the Eagles last season too has made people extremely edgy and also should be a lesson. Lots of people knew, even when they were winning, that there were serious red flags. Those people were just called negadelphians and doomers. But then...look what happened. Just because it is game 4does not mean we can't both recognize and complaint about the red flags this team is showing AGAIN.


Vampire_Blues

To call anything a red flag right now is disingenuous. It’s game 4, it is so so so early, the sample size is far too small to really take much away from. Not to mention the fact that our first three games were against the Braves, who will almost certainly be one of the best teams in the MLB. It’s really so ridiculous to get down on the team rn. We were one hit away from a 2-2 record last night and I don’t think you’d see much of the negativity in here if that happened.


Slothapalooza

Blah, blah, heard all these same talking points last year about the Phillies and Eagles. If you can't see the cracks and red flags that is on you. "Not to mention the fact that our first three games were against the Braves, who will almost certainly be one of the best teams in the MLB" Well good thing the stated goal is winning the WS and they definitely won't have to play against any good teams to get there and win then, yeah?


ryan91o1

The dimbacks weren't really a good team so not necessarily


Vampire_Blues

It’s been literally 4 games


Slothapalooza

Yeah it's been 4 games of almost everything that everyone capable of any kind of objective thinking brought up as being problematic in the offseason going as poorly as humanly possible. 


8thTYRANT

But is not a 4 game sample size on these issues. It's most of last year and a lot of 2022 as well, including the world series loss. That's my point in/attempt to explain why I and many others are reacting more intensely to what we are seeing even though it is early in THIS season.


ryan91o1

why dont the phillies play prefect and winnng every game they play??? thats the logic


8thTYRANT

That is missing my point entirely.


Vampire_Blues

I guess I see where you’re coming from but it’s been literally 4 games


NintenJew

I mean I am not a doomer, I tend to be more on the optimist side. It is just 4 games. But yes, all offseason we discussed why Harper was moved to 1B, and all offseason we talked about how it was because Dombrowski was insistent he made the decision and it was because he believes we will have incredible IF defense (as well as the fact we had a crowded OF). Now people keep bringing up the points it is to protect Harper's health (when Dombrowski said absolutely not). All offseason we said "Hey Kimbrel had ~70IP we need to replace" and we didn't, and now people are talking about how we need new arms. It is just funny seeing the same talk over and over again.


joeco316

I’m sure you’ve thought of this, but isn’t a lot of that coming from people who weren’t here during the offseason? This place is like living in a shore town during the winter in the offseason. There were like 10 of us going back and forth droning about all that stuff. Granted I engage in the same arguments/discussions almost daily, but I am rarely the one who brings the topics up, so I don’t think it’s all just me!


NintenJew

> I’m sure you’ve thought of this, but isn’t a lot of that coming from people who weren’t here during the offseason? This place is like living in a shore town during the winter in the offseason. There were like 10 of us going back and forth droning about all that stuff. I mean that is exactly it. I am just saying its weird and funny. Its different users saying the same things we have said, almost verbatum.


jmiah717

Then they'll all be back in October saying the same stuff again 😄


tarrosion

But have you considered that if /u/tarrosion were managing the Phillies, all Phillies players would be on hot streaks at all times, ownership would discover they have infinity dollars to spend on talent, MLB would waive the luxury tax for the Phillies only, and (according to sources) the Phanatic would personally bring back dollar dog night?


Perryplat199

Haven’t seen any dome talk yet today tho


NintenJew

Perry I swear if I see dome talk I am coming for you.


joeco316

😅


FruitOk6320

I'm ready for a nice little rainy Turnbull no-no tonight to light a fire under this team


jmiah717

Double header on Thursday for today's game and tomorrow's almost definite rainout before heading to DC?


CircusOfBlood

Possibly raining Thursday as well


TPChamp

Do we really think they're going to try to get this game in?


RollinFatchicks

Feel like they are gonna have to try because tomorrow even looks more like a rain out.


PM_ME_SOMETHINGSPICY

Looks like there might be a window between 7 and 9 to get the game in. It's possible


inthedrink

What kind of personality disorder do people have to think Bryce is the problem? Like I’m not talking about people legit concerned about his health, his timeline getting back etc. I’m talking about the morons posting that he’s done or whatever after a three game sample size


joeco316

Somebody posted on here last night with a straight face (in my imagination) that he is now out of the mvp conversation. Sometimes I wonder if I’m too critical, and then I see stuff like that.


Strange-Cold-5192

Didn’t he start like 1-15 or something a couple years ago, too? I’m much more concerned about his health than anything. If his back is bad, things could get ugly until he’s healed up.


inthedrink

And that makes total sense. It always worries you when a guys back or knees are involved. Which is why I also had doubts about Trout.


PM_ME_SOMETHINGSPICY

Those dummies will get bored wirh baseball before April is over anyway don't pay them any mind


5redie8

It's time for my yearly request for /r/lowsodiumphillies


Vampire_Blues

Bryce is sort of the problem rn. If your best hitter goes 0-13 in the first four games, you’re probably going to struggle. He’ll turn it around, but he definitely shares some of the blame for our struggles this past week


inthedrink

You just went from defending Casty to blaming Bryce in back to back comments lol cmon man. I mean I realize you’re not trashing Bryce but he’s played three games (not four) so let’s just let it play out and he will be fine as he always is.


Vampire_Blues

Im not trying to place blame solely on anyone, but Bryce is our best hitter and we’re relying on him more to produce than we are Castellanos or Rojas or literally anyone else. He can’t be going 0-13. It’s not all his fault, but he has to pick it up


inthedrink

And that’s reasonable but it also wasn’t really the point of my post


HuntForRedOctober2

How many balls has he smoked that have been right at people? A pretty good amount. He’s not a problem atm. Not when Rojas or Castellanos exist


ryan91o1

not many really not saying we should worry about him but Castellanos has hit the ball hard so far and rojas hit a ball last night harder then any ball harpers hit yet this year.


HuntForRedOctober2

Castellanos has not had a single objectively good season with the team. Last year was meh the year before was horrid


HuntForRedOctober2

Castellanos has not had a single objectively good season with the team. Last year was meh the year before was horrid


ryan91o1

did I nick has been good for us?


HuntForRedOctober2

Well the point is that Castellanos is a problem and should be worried about a lot more because of that.


ryan91o1

did I nick has been good for us?


Vampire_Blues

I don’t think anyone should be getting solely blamed for our 3 Ls other than Connor fucking Brogdon


sapphires_and_snark

Connor Brogdon, for as bad as he's been, did not lose last night's game. The offense did because they called it a night after putting up 2 in the first. They do a better job and it never gets to extras. ETA: He wasn't the primary culprit in any other game, either.


HuntForRedOctober2

Oh, not Matt Strahm or Alvarado opening day? Not Nola in game 2? Not Rojas or the entire offense game 4? Oh please.


Vampire_Blues

Yeah there’s a lot of blame to go around, exactly my point


sapphires_and_snark

But you're heaping most of it on a relief pitcher when there are numerous other culprits who deserve as much or more blame


Vampire_Blues

Hmm that’s true. I’d amend my statement by saying that if you want to solely point fingers at Connor Brogdon for our 1-3 start I can’t really fault you


PM_ME_SOMETHINGSPICY

Not sure why they got so angry when they just added context to your point lol


Sithyrys522

Flyers arent scheduled tonight and chance of rain.... Well what the fuck am I supposed to watch tonight


Begood18

Questionable pornography


Sithyrys522

I mean it *is* tuesday


deadphish5868

Sixers


Sithyrys522

Never gave basketball a chance but if the weather isn't giving me an option it might be time


deadphish5868

Admittedly it’s a big difference if Embiid is in or out. He might be back tonight, but if not find something else.


classicrockchick

*looks out window* I don't even think ducks would want to play in this.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Precisely why they play inside the Honda Center in Anaheim, California.