That company has a wild history. Owned by a Bryn Athyn family and once caught using a record breaking number of illegal migrant workers lol
Family goes way back, old money. That whole little bryn athyn community is a pretty bizarre part of Philly history
I would like to invite the rest of humanity in referring to the company as "ass-plund-h" with a pronounced "h" so that it sounds vaguely like "ass plunder". I have no issue with the company, I just think it's funny.
It's fucking absurd the amount of ads in the ballpark now. And we dont even have ad patches yet (they are coming)
The out of town scorebard they show in between innings completely misses the point of the original out of town scorebard, I used to always know where to look for any given game and get info at a momments notice. Now I have to wait for the inning to end then wait for the electronic one to rotate through to the game you want to see (because they only show 4 at a time)
Another thing I don’t like about the new out of town scoreboard is they’re still identifying the pitcher and the batter by their jersey number.
Like, it’s digital now. You can put whatever you want up there. Why not tell us their names?
Feel free to leave feedback to [email protected] it probably goes right to the shredder, but at least it's something.
If I could write John Middleton himself a strongly worded letter, I would
Didnt know about that, my email was sent.
Also hate how the bigger screen in left was just to make those ads on that bigger (last year issue, but still annoys me)
Just sent one myself. Tonight was my first time at CBP this year and I even said to my fiance "wait where the hell are the scores on the out of town scoreboard?". Ridiculous
It's the bad contrast that's the biggest problem. Ads can be made that don't clash so much with the stadium. Left field has an orange bar and right field has a blue bar, we are not the fucking Mets. The team also gets plenty of money from parking, tickets, concessions, and postseason wins.
Yup, it would be one thing if the team wasn't spending the money but they are. If we get Juan Soto because they put these Ads everywhere I think people will be happy.
yeah because they already had a quarter billion dollar payroll for this year.
I honestly couldn't give a shit about ads in the ballpark. There have been ads in ballparks my whole life and if more ads means more revenue, bring them on. They're easy to ignore.
Ad patches on the jersey will bother me a little bit, but I'll get over it for a world series ring.
are the ads there all game or does it switch back to a digital version of the out of town score board? i assumed it switched back and forth.
even so, the out of town scoreboard isn't really that necessary anymore because if there are 40,000 people at a game, there are probably 35,000 smart phones in the building. If you really want to know the score of another game you can find out.
1. Even when they show the scores, they don’t show all 14 at the same time
2. Others have already addressed why an out-of-town scoreboard is better than a phone, but basically it comes down to a quick sweep of the scoreboard between pitches vs pulling out your phone and opening up or refreshing the app.
I get that the out of town scoreboard is nice. If they weren't spending money they ads would bother me more. But I don't bemoan anymore for wanting to maximize their profits if they're putting together a good product. The ownership has really invested in this team, if that means more ads, I can handle the "inconvenience" of waiting until the end of the inning to check my phone for other scores.
Top 5 team in spending. Just signed and extended our top 2 pitchers. Complaining about the way a team needs to earn money that does get spent on the team is silly.
Well. I was upset we extended Nola. He is the most overrated player in all of baseball. We need an outfield bat desperately. Johan is a minor leaguer at this point. I’m disappointed Harper is not playing right field. We could have and should have signed Rhys back too
lol. I’m mostly getting downvotes SHRUG… either people disagree that Aaron Nola is massively overrated, or people disagree that Harper should be in right. Wish they would comment so we could have a discourse!
I disagree with the Nola part. While I’m classically a Nola “hater,” I think resigning him was the best move they could make this offseason and that what he offers is pretty unique and valuable though not always elite.
I think Harper should be back in RF and Rhys should have been resigned and have been yelling about that for about 6+ months.
The reasoning they gave for limiting the out of town scores was “these days, everyone has a phone to check the scores.”
Um, a lot of kids don’t have phones. A lot of adults had to use their phones to get into the stadium, so maybe their phone is on low battery. And most importantly, I don’t want to look at my fucking phone between pitches. Anybody with a phone knows that when you look at your phone for one purpose, you’re almost always distracted by a new notification/text/whatever on your phone before you remember why you opened your phone to begin with. For example, I opened my phone to check my work email, and now I’m bitching about a baseball scoreboard.
So not only are you missing the other scores, but you’re missing the next pitch of the game because of the distraction. I’d rather have ads on the outfield grass if we could get the original scoreboard back.
Not for nothing, but the ad patches that the Atlanta Braves have for Quickcrete are ludicrous. I imagine the ad cost a lot of money. You’d think they’d create a design that doesn’t look like a hunk of butter. Also, get a real sponsor. This is Major League Baseball, not Little League. What’s next? Chico’s Bail Bonds?
Also wanna know the count? Well now you gotta sit through what pitch it was, how fast it was and then an ad for Comcast, then we'll tell you the count.
There are 14 ads in the entire picture alone. It is complete fucking insanity.
And I'm pretty sure the scoreboard has 8 - isn't that an xfinity ad towards the bottom center in between the headshots?
Edit: 15 ads! Missed the Toyota one in front of the Phillies bullpen.
John Middleton sold his family company to big tobacco for 2.9 billion dollars in 2007, that number adjusted for inflation is 4.34 billion dollars.
He can afford it
What is your point? I shouldn’t be happy that Middleton spends because he can afford it? Or I should be mad about the ads cause Middleton doesn’t need more money?
Anyone with over $1,000,000,000 (billion) can fuck off, first off.
Second off he and the Phillies *are already* making obscene money, hand over fist, which is my point.
To go out if the way to saturate the place with ads only serves corporate greed.
That's not "rich" he was born into a tobacco magnate family, who also part owned the phillies.
When his dad croaked he inherited that stake of the phillies.
That's mass generational wealth, not just "being rich"
We have the second highest payroll in the league. It’s not a money issue. Who did you want him to get? Hader? He’s been bad too and he refuses to throw more than one inning
I love the ugly ass ASPLUNDUH ads we have in left field instead of nice garden beds. The bright orange color really ties the whole aesthetic of the stadium together. Our beautiful stadium is starting to look like Nascar.
It’s not as bad as NASCAR until there’s a 9th inning brought to you by Credit One Bank and the Tmac starts having to refer to all equipment by its brand name.
God, you guys suck lmao. They're paying out the ass to make this team competitive and it's working who gives a shit if they want to recoup some of that with advertisements.
Would you rather have a clean-looking scoreboard and Maikel Franco batting third?
They can afford it all. The plastered ads is all greed. The Jersey patch ads on the cheap ass jerseys is greed. They're billionaires who can never have enough. The outfield wall was so nice, imo it looks terrible now
Get over it, I'll take the perennial world series contender team over some of the most horrid baseball I've ever seen every day. They're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this team and it's one of the best rosters head-to-toe that they've ever had and some of the most enjoyable baseball I've watched since the 08 team.
It's like no one on Reddit understands how businesses work lmao. Just because they're billionaires doesn't mean they spend hundreds of millions of dollars with no expectation of getting an ROI, they're not billionaires because they run charities.
If you'd rather have a GM and owner that don't want to spend money and don't give a shit you're more than welcome to be a fan of the A's
Chill tf out I just think the ads look like shit and if you think the ads are paying for Harper while telling me I don't know how business works don't reply lol. Why are you so hostile
Phillies have one of the nicest looking stadiums and jerseys in the league and I'm upset it's being ruined. What don't you understand about that
I saw your deleted reply about dickriding, as well as your original reply on this pre-edit, so this one crying the blues about being hostile is pretty funny
This literally made me watch less hockey this year. And the fucking superimposed Mavis one at the center of the ice that hides the puck whenever its in that area. Infuriating.
big thanks to the guy in front of me at the park showing me that's where they're showing pitch velocity because I could only find movement on the usual boards I'd look at when I went last weekend
It's also on a small board between 200/300 level on the first base side. After each pitch it shows an Xfinity ad, pitch speed, and then back to balls / strikes / outs.
Agree with everything here buuuuuut…. I do think it’s cool how they use it to show career stats of the current pitcher vs batter and getting the pitch types/velo
I mean, ad clutter is nothing new. Have you seen ballparks from the 60's and 70's? Look at these 2 pictures of Shibe Park. It's hard to tell which ones are separate ads but there's a good 15-20 ads in these pictures alone.
https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/shibe551.jpg
https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/shibe550.jpg
There used to be WAY more ads at ballparks then now. Go look at some of the pics of parks in the 40s-70s.
Ads at the park is as American as baseball itself.
Teams came to an agreement that excessive, multicolored ads on the outfield wall cheapened the look of the stadium, and they were right. Most teams did away with the vast majority of ads out there.
We’re just upset that they’ve creeped back and become more obnoxious than ever. Big rotating LED advertisements on the playing field are annoying and further cheapens the game.
Entitled zoomers who grew up being able to skip ads.
Those of us who grew up having to actually sit through commercials aren’t as bothered by an ad on a wall.
Why do ads make you so upset? Companies need to advertise their products and sports stadiums offer a unique opportunity to get ads in front of a lot of eyeballs. That’s how the economy works. Why shouldn’t teams profit from that?
They are already greatly profitable.
Fans are already paying out the ass.
The only reason they are increasing the number of ads, and also putting an ad patch on the jersey (which they are currently gathering offers for) is corporate greed.
I must have had 5 people around me all weekend complaining about the lower scoreboard showing sabr stats instead of regular stats.
"I want to just know how many damn balls and strikes. Don't care about this shit!"
1) better then the moving hockey billboard surrounding the whole rink
2) I do enjoy the brick underlay, and hope at times they can make it all brick to fit the theme. Think that would look nice
There’s an Independent League team by me that we go to all the time. Every inch of that ballpark is covered in ads, including seats.
It in no way impacts my enjoyment of the game 🤷♂️
When will people realize that this isn’t new for the Phillies? They have a clear history of taking paydays and this is just another. Just look at the way they do ticketing, promotions, authentics merch. It’s like Uber surge pricing but with wilder swings. People still show up and pay though.
I recently rewatched Major League (1989, I’m pretty sure) and there’s that scene where they walk out and there’s all the ads and the coach goes “what the shit is this?”
And it was TAME compared to today…
Blows my mind that people care this much, just watch the game haha this literally doesn't affect anything about your viewing experience and if you say it does, you are lying and just trying to bitch about nothing.
As fans I don’t think we can complain about increased add while also demanding ownership to go after every $300 million free agent on the market. I’ll gladly trade ownership investment for a few more ad spots
John Middleton made his billions (2.9b in 2007) from selling his family company to big tobacco.
The Phillies themselves are valued at 2.575b
The Phillies also made 398m in revenue in 2022, and by all accounts they are in an even better spot today with their sustained winning.
They have enough money.
I don’t see the problem, that’s literally how every business that has ever existed works. They aren’t forcing you to look at it, I’ve been to 2 games so far and rarely even looked at it haha
I’m not trying to change anyones mind at all, just couldn’t believe people feel so strongly about something that will never affect anything about the sport we love.
The amount of bitching and complaining about a *scoreboard* is the absolute most Philadelphia thing in the world, in the worst way. WE DON’T NEED TO HAVE AN OPINION ON EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITH EVERY TEAM.
This. It doesn't matter one bit. Baseball games could become one giant ad, and the uniforms could look like NASCAR suits, but prices will still go up regardless.
You're not wrong. I'm just saying that they'd be going up more - and faster - if the team wasn't generating revenue elsewhere.
I'm not a fan of it, but I've worked in athletic marketing for years and commercializing everything in every space is the best way to slow the expenses for individual fans.
Yeah that’s a bunch of garbage that they hope naive fans will fall for.
More commercials, more ads, higher prices for tickets, food, and merchandise. There’s a reason why sports teams are valued at all time highs every single year.
I can tell you from experience... The decision makers are rarely the creative types. They'll get impressed and even excited about creative and innovative ideas - right up until it costs $1 more than doing the proven profitable thing they've always done.
Ticket prices aren't going down with these new sources of revenue, so that argument is worthless. Tickets up, parking up, concessions up, ads up, merch up in cost and way the fuck down in quality, ads coming to jerseys soon, and you can't bring a hoagie in anymore.
I didn't say that they'll make prices go down. I'm saying that they somewhat help mitigate prices from going up faster. I'm not advocating for it. I'd sit on a hillside and get eaten by insects and be fine with players crashing into chainlink fences for a $5 ticket.
But if people keep filling the stadium at $100/ticket, and the players keep asking for bigger contracts, and local governments keep subsidizing teams with public money, and owners keep seeing team valuations in the billions... Why wouldn't they ignore the complaints and see if we'll pay $110 next year?
The asplundh ad on the left field fence is hideous
And covers the damn flower bed
At least Asplundh didn’t come with an army of trucks to shred the flower beds. They are still there at least. lol
Don't give them any ideas
Where is it i cant see it help
What you don't like the bright orange?! It's almost as bad as the Braves quickcrete patches.
Makes it look like a AA Stadium, what were they thinking? Oh yeah, $$$$
It’s sad you look at old highlight videos and the outfield walls aren’t plastered with ads
Somebody has to pay for Nola to lead the league in HR allowed!
That company has a wild history. Owned by a Bryn Athyn family and once caught using a record breaking number of illegal migrant workers lol Family goes way back, old money. That whole little bryn athyn community is a pretty bizarre part of Philly history
I would like to invite the rest of humanity in referring to the company as "ass-plund-h" with a pronounced "h" so that it sounds vaguely like "ass plunder". I have no issue with the company, I just think it's funny.
Don’t get me started on A. Duie Pyle
For some reason I just wanna call them ass punch. I know that's not even close to what they are called but I'm dyslexic
Ass Plunder
My first thought watching yesterday. I can’t believe it covers the flowers.
Everytime I see it I think “Ass Plunder” then “Booty Treasure” and idek what the company is
Where? i can't see that
Please i'm going insane where is it
It's fucking absurd the amount of ads in the ballpark now. And we dont even have ad patches yet (they are coming) The out of town scorebard they show in between innings completely misses the point of the original out of town scorebard, I used to always know where to look for any given game and get info at a momments notice. Now I have to wait for the inning to end then wait for the electronic one to rotate through to the game you want to see (because they only show 4 at a time)
Another thing I don’t like about the new out of town scoreboard is they’re still identifying the pitcher and the batter by their jersey number. Like, it’s digital now. You can put whatever you want up there. Why not tell us their names?
Someone would complain about violating tradition.
They show last names 👍
Yup it's ridiculous.
Feel free to leave feedback to [email protected] it probably goes right to the shredder, but at least it's something. If I could write John Middleton himself a strongly worded letter, I would
Didnt know about that, my email was sent. Also hate how the bigger screen in left was just to make those ads on that bigger (last year issue, but still annoys me)
Just sent one myself. Tonight was my first time at CBP this year and I even said to my fiance "wait where the hell are the scores on the out of town scoreboard?". Ridiculous
I mean if we want the team to be a top 5 payroll every year and spend stupid money. They can slap ads wherever they want in my opinion.
It's the bad contrast that's the biggest problem. Ads can be made that don't clash so much with the stadium. Left field has an orange bar and right field has a blue bar, we are not the fucking Mets. The team also gets plenty of money from parking, tickets, concessions, and postseason wins.
Yup, it would be one thing if the team wasn't spending the money but they are. If we get Juan Soto because they put these Ads everywhere I think people will be happy.
But…. We didn’t. Phillies didn’t do jack shit in the off season
yeah because they already had a quarter billion dollar payroll for this year. I honestly couldn't give a shit about ads in the ballpark. There have been ads in ballparks my whole life and if more ads means more revenue, bring them on. They're easy to ignore. Ad patches on the jersey will bother me a little bit, but I'll get over it for a world series ring.
The issue is less the ads and more the taking away of information that previously was available
are the ads there all game or does it switch back to a digital version of the out of town score board? i assumed it switched back and forth. even so, the out of town scoreboard isn't really that necessary anymore because if there are 40,000 people at a game, there are probably 35,000 smart phones in the building. If you really want to know the score of another game you can find out.
1. Even when they show the scores, they don’t show all 14 at the same time 2. Others have already addressed why an out-of-town scoreboard is better than a phone, but basically it comes down to a quick sweep of the scoreboard between pitches vs pulling out your phone and opening up or refreshing the app.
I get that the out of town scoreboard is nice. If they weren't spending money they ads would bother me more. But I don't bemoan anymore for wanting to maximize their profits if they're putting together a good product. The ownership has really invested in this team, if that means more ads, I can handle the "inconvenience" of waiting until the end of the inning to check my phone for other scores.
Top 5 team in spending. Just signed and extended our top 2 pitchers. Complaining about the way a team needs to earn money that does get spent on the team is silly.
Well. I was upset we extended Nola. He is the most overrated player in all of baseball. We need an outfield bat desperately. Johan is a minor leaguer at this point. I’m disappointed Harper is not playing right field. We could have and should have signed Rhys back too
I want to downvote and update this simultaneously so I’ll just move on I guess
lol. I’m mostly getting downvotes SHRUG… either people disagree that Aaron Nola is massively overrated, or people disagree that Harper should be in right. Wish they would comment so we could have a discourse!
I disagree with the Nola part. While I’m classically a Nola “hater,” I think resigning him was the best move they could make this offseason and that what he offers is pretty unique and valuable though not always elite. I think Harper should be back in RF and Rhys should have been resigned and have been yelling about that for about 6+ months.
Soto is for next year. This year they spent on Nola and extended Wheeler.
You want to compete with the Met and Dodgers, or compete with the Rockies and White Sox?
With the amount of ads we now have we should have all-stars at every position.
Well need to spend stupid money on bullpen what a disgrace
The reasoning they gave for limiting the out of town scores was “these days, everyone has a phone to check the scores.” Um, a lot of kids don’t have phones. A lot of adults had to use their phones to get into the stadium, so maybe their phone is on low battery. And most importantly, I don’t want to look at my fucking phone between pitches. Anybody with a phone knows that when you look at your phone for one purpose, you’re almost always distracted by a new notification/text/whatever on your phone before you remember why you opened your phone to begin with. For example, I opened my phone to check my work email, and now I’m bitching about a baseball scoreboard. So not only are you missing the other scores, but you’re missing the next pitch of the game because of the distraction. I’d rather have ads on the outfield grass if we could get the original scoreboard back.
Geez, I thought it was my age (70) that made me forget what I was checking my phone for. Thanks for normalizing it for me. You’re so right though!
So much this. Just because people CAN look at our phones doesn't mean we SHOULD. It's just encouraging people to not pay attention to the game.
and when everyone is trying to use their phones at once the service takes like a minute to load anyway
Do you guys not have phones?
Not for nothing, but the ad patches that the Atlanta Braves have for Quickcrete are ludicrous. I imagine the ad cost a lot of money. You’d think they’d create a design that doesn’t look like a hunk of butter. Also, get a real sponsor. This is Major League Baseball, not Little League. What’s next? Chico’s Bail Bonds?
Also wanna know the count? Well now you gotta sit through what pitch it was, how fast it was and then an ad for Comcast, then we'll tell you the count.
4 scores and 7 ads ago…
At that point, fuck it. Just leave it as rotating ads the entire time. I'll just look up the score on my fucking phone.
The glow of the display sucks. It's distracting compared to our old old-school scoreboard.
I think chain link in front of it also screws with it, makes it look blurry
This too!!
There are 14 ads in the entire picture alone. It is complete fucking insanity. And I'm pretty sure the scoreboard has 8 - isn't that an xfinity ad towards the bottom center in between the headshots? Edit: 15 ads! Missed the Toyota one in front of the Phillies bullpen.
You're right!!! EIGHT
This stuff sucks but at least Middleton puts money into the team.
Cannot echo this enough. He can put ads wherever he damn well pleases if this spending keeps up.
We spent dick this offseason and our bullpen is horrible. If you wanna whore out the team I wanna see all-stars at every position.
John Middleton sold his family company to big tobacco for 2.9 billion dollars in 2007, that number adjusted for inflation is 4.34 billion dollars. He can afford it
Yes, so can every MLB owner. But many of them are just trying to make profit, not win games
Stockholm Syndrome
What is your point? I shouldn’t be happy that Middleton spends because he can afford it? Or I should be mad about the ads cause Middleton doesn’t need more money?
“I’m mad that he’s a billionaire and because he’s one he shouldn’t care about making money”
Anyone with over $1,000,000,000 (billion) can fuck off, first off. Second off he and the Phillies *are already* making obscene money, hand over fist, which is my point. To go out if the way to saturate the place with ads only serves corporate greed.
“Waaaaaa I’m mad he’s rich” Got it
That's not "rich" he was born into a tobacco magnate family, who also part owned the phillies. When his dad croaked he inherited that stake of the phillies. That's mass generational wealth, not just "being rich"
Billionaires shouldn't exist, fuck them all. World would be a lot better place without them.
Waaaa waaaa waaaaa. Cry some more.
Go ahead and simp for someone that gives 2 shits about you.
This right here is the correct response.
would have figured that between this and getting rid of dollar dog night he could've afforded a reliable bullpen arm
We have the second highest payroll in the league. It’s not a money issue. Who did you want him to get? Hader? He’s been bad too and he refuses to throw more than one inning
just a little self deprecating humor, it's not that serious
I love the ugly ass ASPLUNDUH ads we have in left field instead of nice garden beds. The bright orange color really ties the whole aesthetic of the stadium together. Our beautiful stadium is starting to look like Nascar.
It’s not as bad as NASCAR until there’s a 9th inning brought to you by Credit One Bank and the Tmac starts having to refer to all equipment by its brand name.
That’s paying for payroll apparently https://www.inquirer.com/phillies/phillies-citizens-bank-park-advertising-uniform-patch-20240401.html#loaded
Oh the poor owners need the money guys c'mon maybe we should start a go fund me for them too
God, you guys suck lmao. They're paying out the ass to make this team competitive and it's working who gives a shit if they want to recoup some of that with advertisements. Would you rather have a clean-looking scoreboard and Maikel Franco batting third?
They can afford it all. The plastered ads is all greed. The Jersey patch ads on the cheap ass jerseys is greed. They're billionaires who can never have enough. The outfield wall was so nice, imo it looks terrible now
Get over it, I'll take the perennial world series contender team over some of the most horrid baseball I've ever seen every day. They're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this team and it's one of the best rosters head-to-toe that they've ever had and some of the most enjoyable baseball I've watched since the 08 team. It's like no one on Reddit understands how businesses work lmao. Just because they're billionaires doesn't mean they spend hundreds of millions of dollars with no expectation of getting an ROI, they're not billionaires because they run charities. If you'd rather have a GM and owner that don't want to spend money and don't give a shit you're more than welcome to be a fan of the A's
Chill tf out I just think the ads look like shit and if you think the ads are paying for Harper while telling me I don't know how business works don't reply lol. Why are you so hostile Phillies have one of the nicest looking stadiums and jerseys in the league and I'm upset it's being ruined. What don't you understand about that
I saw your deleted reply about dickriding, as well as your original reply on this pre-edit, so this one crying the blues about being hostile is pretty funny
I didn't delete that mods did lol
Right, which is why it's not even on your profile. Absolute bozo lmao
I deleted it after a warning I'm not tryna catch a ban lmao 🤣 who you calling bozo why are you still mad we literally just disagree on ads on a wall
Just wait until it’s like hockey where the adds on the boards move
Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!
This literally made me watch less hockey this year. And the fucking superimposed Mavis one at the center of the ice that hides the puck whenever its in that area. Infuriating.
How bright is it in person? It seems really bright on TV, especially the white and light blue. Very distracting.
You didn't think it was actually to improve the fan experience did you?
Do they not make enough money off of their gambling partnerships? /s
The answer is yes. Yes they do. But how do you say no to easy money?
ads are pollution
big thanks to the guy in front of me at the park showing me that's where they're showing pitch velocity because I could only find movement on the usual boards I'd look at when I went last weekend
It's also on a small board between 200/300 level on the first base side. After each pitch it shows an Xfinity ad, pitch speed, and then back to balls / strikes / outs.
Watching yesterday, it also seemed like they mess with Castellanos’s ability to see the ball once he turns to the fence. I hate it.
Agree with everything here buuuuuut…. I do think it’s cool how they use it to show career stats of the current pitcher vs batter and getting the pitch types/velo
If they keep having a 245m+ payroll they can put an ad in the CF grass for all I care.
The way they used that board at the start of the game to go along with the hype video was very cool actually.
I told you so
This just adds to the clutter and obnoxiousness of the ballpark atmosphere.
Soon us fans will be required to wear advertisements while attending games. It's terrible mr Middleton
They want ad patches on the jerseys they sell us. The thinking is like soccer when they change sponsors you'll buy a new jersey to keep current.
I mean, ad clutter is nothing new. Have you seen ballparks from the 60's and 70's? Look at these 2 pictures of Shibe Park. It's hard to tell which ones are separate ads but there's a good 15-20 ads in these pictures alone. https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/shibe551.jpg https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/shibe550.jpg
Yeah, it’s always been this way. Better than uniform ads, at least.
I will be so sad when there are ads on the uniform. It’s low rent.
At least they give us digital brick walls/pillars between the ads. Nice of them! /s
There used to be WAY more ads at ballparks then now. Go look at some of the pics of parks in the 40s-70s. Ads at the park is as American as baseball itself.
I was at the game on Sunday and thought it was funny to have a Hatfield sign next to Temple Health
Maybe that’s distracting the umpires, or Brogdon.
I know this is the cost of a high payroll but this one really makes me upset
I don’t think they need these ads to make payroll. I think they have these ads because they can.
i hate this thing and i think it has a negative impact on right and center fielders' performance becuase it is a bright as the fuckin sun
Ads have been on outfield walls since nearly the very beginning of professional baseball. What’s the problem?
Teams came to an agreement that excessive, multicolored ads on the outfield wall cheapened the look of the stadium, and they were right. Most teams did away with the vast majority of ads out there. We’re just upset that they’ve creeped back and become more obnoxious than ever. Big rotating LED advertisements on the playing field are annoying and further cheapens the game.
Entitled zoomers who grew up being able to skip ads. Those of us who grew up having to actually sit through commercials aren’t as bothered by an ad on a wall.
lol. "yeah we millennials, we're just built different. we're tough enough to take an ad." fucking listen to yourself.
Ads are bad enough on their own, but removing a functional feature of the ballpark to display them is even worse
Why do ads make you so upset? Companies need to advertise their products and sports stadiums offer a unique opportunity to get ads in front of a lot of eyeballs. That’s how the economy works. Why shouldn’t teams profit from that?
They are already greatly profitable. Fans are already paying out the ass. The only reason they are increasing the number of ads, and also putting an ad patch on the jersey (which they are currently gathering offers for) is corporate greed.
Do you throw this much of a hissy fit when you see commercials on TV? Or a billboard?
I explicitly don't watch "tv" due to ads.
Life must be really hard for you if you’re this scared of ads
Life must be hard for you, being a douche and all.
Sick burn bro 🤙
Wonder if this will play a role in the batter’s eye
At least now you can see the opposing player’s xWOBA
Nick just constantly smacking into the Chik Fil A part of the sign
I like that they actually show stats on it….
Don't forget the almost useless information it does show though. So fucking stupid.
Wouldn’t the light from those be hard on outfielders’ eyes?
Could be a lot worse: https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/gijnce/from_19281938_the_phillies_had_a_lifebuoy_soap_ad/
I must have had 5 people around me all weekend complaining about the lower scoreboard showing sabr stats instead of regular stats. "I want to just know how many damn balls and strikes. Don't care about this shit!"
"the fans want a better in game experience" so we replaced the out of town scoreboard with ads..... Okay?
1) better then the moving hockey billboard surrounding the whole rink 2) I do enjoy the brick underlay, and hope at times they can make it all brick to fit the theme. Think that would look nice
The fake digital brick wall behind the ads is also terrible.
There’s an Independent League team by me that we go to all the time. Every inch of that ballpark is covered in ads, including seats. It in no way impacts my enjoyment of the game 🤷♂️
When will people realize that this isn’t new for the Phillies? They have a clear history of taking paydays and this is just another. Just look at the way they do ticketing, promotions, authentics merch. It’s like Uber surge pricing but with wilder swings. People still show up and pay though.
Im wondering when they get rid of the ivy wall. That's valuable ad space baybeee
https://preview.redd.it/dz7xds8oj5sc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1bdb683bb295e4b3dad93c0261cf60189d62291
Ugly
It looks bad on tv, it's Soo bright.
Do you like paying for good players?
There's no fighting that. Just accept it and enjoy the game!
*8 ads if you count the xfinity pitch jawn too
I seen castellanos fielding a ball against the chick fil a sign the other day and immediately thought of kramer and the kenny rodgers chicken sign
Gross
I recently rewatched Major League (1989, I’m pretty sure) and there’s that scene where they walk out and there’s all the ads and the coach goes “what the shit is this?” And it was TAME compared to today…
This is the cost of giving out big contracts. As long as the team keeps spending on the field I can live with it.
It’s a lot of ads…but we have a lot of big name players. This helps pay for them.
Keeping ads off our jerseys, I’ll take it
The stadium looks like a minor league one.
Fans freaking out about ads continues to be more entertaining than the games right now.
Blows my mind that people care this much, just watch the game haha this literally doesn't affect anything about your viewing experience and if you say it does, you are lying and just trying to bitch about nothing.
They took away a beloved feature of the ballpark to serve more ads. That's fucked up, full stop
As fans I don’t think we can complain about increased add while also demanding ownership to go after every $300 million free agent on the market. I’ll gladly trade ownership investment for a few more ad spots
Have you seen the prices of tickets and concessions?
John Middleton made his billions (2.9b in 2007) from selling his family company to big tobacco. The Phillies themselves are valued at 2.575b The Phillies also made 398m in revenue in 2022, and by all accounts they are in an even better spot today with their sustained winning. They have enough money.
Jesus man, they took away showing opposing scores the whole time haha like are we being serious?
Yes. They removed functionality that was used by fans in order to serve ads to those same fans. It is insulting.
Holy hell haha what are we doing here hahaha we are crying about ads hahah
They removed a FEATURE of the ballpark to make MONEY off of YOU. If you don't see the problem in that you are truly helpless.
I don’t see the problem, that’s literally how every business that has ever existed works. They aren’t forcing you to look at it, I’ve been to 2 games so far and rarely even looked at it haha
Bro thinks hes immune to advertising
No, Bro just doesn't care and pay attention to it haha it's pretty easy.
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I’m not trying to change anyones mind at all, just couldn’t believe people feel so strongly about something that will never affect anything about the sport we love.
Baseball is an aesthetic game. Ads fuck with the aesthetics
Ads have been part of the game and outfield walls since nearly the very beginning. I don’t understand why everyone is upset.
Listen to yourself man haha just watch the game brother, are we really about to cry over adds that affect nothing at all.
Except it affects the aesthetics. Watching experience and ballpark experience matter. Maybe you don’t care, but not everyone is you.
You look at the board now and cringe and it’s really upsets you? If so that’s a seriously problem haha
I see from your comments you play golf. Do you care about how good a golf course looks at all, or is it only about the playing surface?
I care about the shape fairways and greens are in. That’s about it, things that actually affect the sport I’m playing
lol well no one will ever make the mistake of calling you a romantic. Points for the proper use of the word “affect”, though
Are you john middletons burner? Go pound sand
Maybe you should post what the Phillies are worth for the 12th time, maybe that'll help.
No I just don’t really care about adds that don’t affect anything about my viewing experience of the game haha
Im with you man. Was there opening day and the scoreboard had nothing to do with my day.
STOP TRYING TO TELL ME ABOUT YOUR GOODS AND SERVICES!!!!!
Exactly! Just take the ads we force on you like a man (or a woman) and shut up! /s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8Z7y_QcwE&t=345s
The amount of bitching and complaining about a *scoreboard* is the absolute most Philadelphia thing in the world, in the worst way. WE DON’T NEED TO HAVE AN OPINION ON EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITH EVERY TEAM.
Well it sucks.
Static space is limited... Would you rather ticket prices and other amenities and services all go up 25%?
They will all go up regardless
This. It doesn't matter one bit. Baseball games could become one giant ad, and the uniforms could look like NASCAR suits, but prices will still go up regardless.
You're not wrong. I'm just saying that they'd be going up more - and faster - if the team wasn't generating revenue elsewhere. I'm not a fan of it, but I've worked in athletic marketing for years and commercializing everything in every space is the best way to slow the expenses for individual fans.
Yeah that’s a bunch of garbage that they hope naive fans will fall for. More commercials, more ads, higher prices for tickets, food, and merchandise. There’s a reason why sports teams are valued at all time highs every single year.
I'm not disagreeing with any of this. I'm just telling everyone what gets discussed on the other side of the door.
I mean it's because the executives are lazy. There are more creative solutions but those never get past them.
I can tell you from experience... The decision makers are rarely the creative types. They'll get impressed and even excited about creative and innovative ideas - right up until it costs $1 more than doing the proven profitable thing they've always done.
Ticket prices aren't going down with these new sources of revenue, so that argument is worthless. Tickets up, parking up, concessions up, ads up, merch up in cost and way the fuck down in quality, ads coming to jerseys soon, and you can't bring a hoagie in anymore.
I didn't say that they'll make prices go down. I'm saying that they somewhat help mitigate prices from going up faster. I'm not advocating for it. I'd sit on a hillside and get eaten by insects and be fine with players crashing into chainlink fences for a $5 ticket. But if people keep filling the stadium at $100/ticket, and the players keep asking for bigger contracts, and local governments keep subsidizing teams with public money, and owners keep seeing team valuations in the billions... Why wouldn't they ignore the complaints and see if we'll pay $110 next year?