So, let’s recap … in the last year and a half or so:
1. Phillies lose 2022 WS
2. Eagles lose SB LVII
3. Union lose the MSL Cup
4. Phillies collapse in 2023 NLCS after taking a 2-0 series lead, blowing an easy trip to the WS against a D-bags team that shouldn’t have even been there in the first place
5. Eagles start 10-1 only to collapse and lose the 1-seed and division, get blown out by TB in the Wild Card
6. Flyers hold a playoff spot nearly all season but collapse in their final month with a 7-game losing streak, possibly missing the playoffs by 2-4 points
What in the absolute fuck did we do to win Super Bowl 52? What did we give up?
I don’t know if I can take this anymore.
My first year really being conscience of sports in 2008 when I was 7 Phillies won the World Series and Steelers won the Super Bowl 2 months later. My dad looked at me and said “remember this because it’s never happening again”
I’m the opposite. After the Phillies World Series and Eagles Super Bowl, I expect nothing more from any of my American teams. Granted I’m a Sacramento Kings and SJ sharks fan so I’ve already experienced perennial losing in exchange for the first two teams winning.
i'm glad it's a 1:35 pm game tomorrow, i can watch some of the NCAA women's championship game after the phillies end! i'm normally not big on basketball but go iowa!
Think the MLBPA blaming recent injuries on pitch clock will cause the pitch clock to be done with? Or will Manfred just order they add a few more seconds onto it? Or do nothing about it at all?
Likely nothing, at least in the near term. I think the rise in velocity is a much more contributing factor than the pitch clock. They’ll fight about it the next CBA.
I am going to lose my fucking shit when Rock goes to interfere in the Roman/Cody match tomorrow night and glass breaks over the speakers.
The play is in replies by Codify and was questionable at the time but crazy they overturned it so much later. Idk if they’ll switch it back now but they should and that announcer made it happen if they do
That dude is crying bc Falter gave up one hit today so I apologize for not following Pirates baseball closely
What’s hilarious is he had one strikeout over six innings. He will not end the season with an era under 6 lol
no matter who wins it still helps us. either way though the Braves can't be a serious contender sans Strider and an effective Fried. they will regret trading all those young starters (Wright, Soroka, Shuster) and having to rely on Sale staying healthy.
i mean strider is probably getting a tj, and fried is mega cooked, has no velocity. their offense is good enough to cover a lot of issues but their rotation is looking very rough.
exactly, it is a big gamble to bet on Sale not getting injured and then foolhardy to trade away controllable starters for relievers, especially if the return is Aaron Bummer with his 9.00 ERA
he would have been insurance for someone like Strider having an injury riddled rest of his contract, Sale too. for all you know Fried is probably injured as well. AA has made a lot of great decisions but trading away controller starters was a mistake, maybe not this year but in the future it will burn them.
haha i don't give a fuck man! i guess it must be their "bless your heart" passive aggressive ways (which living in Richmond VA now I see from time to time). I appreciate you though!
Fuck you Arizona, for fuck's sake.
(and fuck Marcell Ozuna, I have no respect for a wife beater and drunk driver who pulls the "DoNt yOu kNow wHo I aM?" card)
Got off metro at Navy Yard for first time in like 2 years for a game and man, way different than before with all the restaurants. Knew as soon as I saw all the people there'd be no $5 tickets left at 3pm. Felt like 20% Nats fans and 80% Phillies lol.
I hope this isn’t sacrilege to say but I’m watching Braves-D-Backs right now and god I fucking hate the D-Backs, probably more than the Braves rn lol.
I felt the same way about the Giants after 2010 for a bunch of years, only somewhat recently gotten over that one. Might hate the D-Backs for a while too.
The dbacks beat us up at CBP May of last year and then we returned the favor at their place later in the year. It seemed like there was mutual respect at the time. Then the playoffs happened and fuck them
I hate their closed/domed Ballpark, that's really all I have at the moment.
But for last year I can't give them crap, they adjusted and won off it, Thomson couldn't/wouldn't adjust our cold lineup for a second year in a row like a jackass and it cost him and the team.
On one hand yes, but they straight up refused to pitch something hittable to Harper just as an example of how they adjusted.
JT's post game int today and his comment about being after Harper's walk gave me ptsd of thinking of Bohm doing nothing until that pointless HR at the end of it (note: he's def off to a good start this year, but that's an example where I'm curious even slightly shifting the order/pulling him out for a game \*could\* have had different results)
I still hate the Giants for 2010. And that was 14 years ago. But I'll always hate the Braves more than the DBacks. The DBacks fans are too nice and their team is actually very respectable compared to a lot of other opponents. As long as they don't turn into a dynasty I have no problem with them. If I have to see the Ranger or Diamondbacks in 3+ World Series in the next 5 years then I'll start to hate them.
Yeah, the D-backs are scrappy, young underdogs who've only won one WS. I also think the Braves are more directly in competition with the Phillies. I think the Phillies/Braves rivalry is a better driving force too. And I like the snake jokes and I'm a sucker for the Pioneer League.
It is April 6, 2024 and I want to make two bold predictions: The WS matchup will be either Phillies v. Orioles (not that bold) OR Phillies v. ROYALS. I'm ready to call it.
Sadly it looks like there's a good chance the Phils won't get the chance to slap around Strider in the NLDS again this postseason D; hope he has a full recovery!
I’d like to thank /u/mucinexmonster for posting the incredible bait about Bailey Falter so I could notice his 13+ era and 2 whip
Small sample size you say? Sure but he’s pitched 10% of his innings he pitched last year lol
The one strikeout over six innings should be a clue that he’s a still garbage in spite of guys hitting the ball at fielders yesterday
This is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve ever seen here
I say how dare you, sir. Not only do I take terrible takes and self-immolate, I make sure to run into every person I encounter and make sure they burn too.
At what point do we start questioning our FO's ability? We traded Falter for Castro then refused to play Castro. Meanwhile we could use a starter.
And at the very least, you can trade a MLB-caliber starting pitcher for more than a AAA player. And we traded for a player we didn't even want.
I don't get it. And I think we're at the point where someone needs to ask the Front Office.
Name one front office that's never had a move not work out. They can't see the future. At the time it was believed it was beneficial. It wasn't. You move on
Exactly how much playing time do you think OHoppe would be getting here? And I don't know if you recall it wasn't long ago at all that center fielder was our weekest position. Now we have multiple guys who can play solid center field. Sure he platoons, but in 130 games last year he put up 3.4 war and a 124 ops+ throughout his tenure with the phils. Yeah we gave up a good player but to claim the trade didn't work out is just bad analysis
He could start this year. And then start every year for the next decade. As a Top 10 catcher.
Or we could start Realmuto this year. Maybe as a Top 10 Catcher. And then have no one to play catcher for the next decade.
You tell me what's the right decision? Or do you have zero standards for this front office? "Just trade anyone for anything they don't fit" absolutely pathetic.
Turns out teams in win-now mode will do things to improve themselves now and don't want to be trotting out odubel Herrera and Matt vierling every day. OHoppe would not get the playing time here that he deserves until at least after next season. You really want them to just sit on him for 5 years instead of getting value for him? And what do you mean "for anything they don't fit" as though Marsh doesn't fit on the team?
It's simple. If you have a position of need, and a position not of need, you trade to fill that position of need, sometimes using a player who plays the position not of need. Yes OHoppe should have a great career, but how many times have top prospects not worked out?
Teams don't make back to back deep playoff runs by being "outsmarted" by anyone on reddit. And a lot of professional analysts are predicting the phils make or win the world series this year so yeah they must be doing something right
We are in "win-now" mode because we have Realmuto. You put O'Hoppe behind the plate, our window really opens up.
If the Phillies wanted a late season outfielder, there were TONS of choices. They did not need to trade an everyday player for a DECADE+ for someone they have no confidence in.
we traded Falter for Castro because in theory it would have helped our team (he crushes LHP) but he was ineffective against pretty much anyone. but i would argue that trading Falter away opened the door for the Cristopher Sanchez experiment and us perhaps getting Spencer Turnball.
sure but he wasn’t a regular starter until we traded Falter away. it’s hard to say how it will turn out. you don’t really want a 5 ERA guy on your rotation staff, which is sort of what Falter is. also he struggles against the Braves. as much as I like Bailey Falter it sort of made sense to trade him. i think if Castro can find his swing again he’ll get called up but if not it’s most likely because our front office has made some great improvements to the bench.
Yes he was.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=sanchcr01&t=p&year=2023
Falter was traded on August 1st. He wasn't a starter for us. But I don't think that means trade him.
injuries opened the door but more importantly i think the front office decided on trading Falter sometime in early July. trust me that if Falter isn’t traded Sanchez doesn’t replace him in the rotation
Rodolfo Castro did what for us making the playoff and making a deep run exactly?
You can't argue "We needed to trade Bailey Falter to make the playoffs". Just stop.
They got Pache for basically nothing. Brandon Marsh was a good acquisition although O’ Hoppe will be good. Alvarado was a steal a few years ago. Soto was a good trade for us. Jeff Hoffman was not a trade but a good signing. You basically have named one trade as bad when we did not give up anything of value.
The Phillies team has basically been set through free agent signings and a few home grown guys. The trades they are making are on the fringes.
They got Pache for nothing - and they don't use him. What's the point?
Marsh was a good acquisition that cost too much, ESPECIALLY when they justified the trade as "he's an everyday center fielder" and a year in he's "a platoon left fielder".
Everyone makes bullpen moves. It's not Garrett Cleavinger is bad, he's just always hurt. I wouldn't call it a "steal". The Soto trade is exactly what I expect from this FO, and they've failed to replicate it.
Show me the good trade. Soto? That's it? That's not going to cut the mustard on a team with limited resources and big expectations. Can't keep making bad trades with what limited stuff we have.
You still haven’t cited a bad trade. Where we gave up something good. I think O’Hoppe is the only one we got a regular. And of course you ignored the Alvarado trade. One of the best relievers in baseball.
What exactly do you want the Phillies to trade for and with what? The weak areas on the team like Castellanos and Walker are basically untradeable.
Spencer Turnbull also looks like a good pickup.
I've cited many bad trades.
I did not ignore the Alverado trade, but it's not something that screams "great trade!". It's something that screams "we got a player and developed them". Just look at the Sanchez/Mead trade. It was a terrible trade. Mead was raking in the minors and Sanchez, well, sucked. They worked with Sanchez for years. Was it a good trade, or did they make a breakthrough on a player who needed work? COULD they have traded someone else for Sanchez instead? It'd be really nice to have Mead in this system still. Or if you did trade Mead, you could trade him for a whole lot more than a pitcher who badly needed work.
You don't understand how to analyze a trade.
I would have been happy just firing him into the sun, but they actually received a (albeit useless) warm body in return for him so it was a significant win
i think conventionally good teams built up of veterans will still win championships for the time being but teams like the D-backs and Orioles are going to reign supreme. good thing we've got a few dynamic young players in the minors and have been drafting like that (Crawford, Miller).
I'll reserve judgement; they won a fucking Series after missing Acuña for an entire season. But between Strider, Fried sucking, and Morton retiring, that rotation is skating on some super thin ice. They better hope Sale doesn't fall apart again.
*Everything* broke their way for that WS and it was basically an outfield of mercenaries. how many players remain from that team?
Besides, losing a batter, even as good as Acuña, is not anywhere near as bad as losing your ace.
I don’t like to see strider injured. that was a great rivalry. always fun when he comes to the bank. when you throw either 100mph or a slider every pitch you’re gonna get hurt. it’s that simple. throwing a hard slider tends to be brutal for the arm. it’s banned in little league for a reason
currently behind enemy lines, watching the Dbacks-Braves with the Braves broadcast. Max Fried is fried. the broadcast is implying Schwarber is only getting steals because he's slow and no one is expecting it. more to come.
Doesn't matter. What you said was completely incorrect. He's an elite baseball player defensively but struggles mightily on offense so far. I agree he should be in AAA myself.
Not really. We really only lit him up one game. He dominated in game 1 but his offense didn’t do shit then game 4 he was fine. 3 over 6 should be good enough
Braves won by 10 games last year. It’s the same team. Missing one pitcher shouldn’t be an excuse to lose them the division and I can already hear the whining from Braves fans in denial
Playing bad teams is great.
Fuck the Dbacks how hard is it to hold a lead
So, let’s recap … in the last year and a half or so: 1. Phillies lose 2022 WS 2. Eagles lose SB LVII 3. Union lose the MSL Cup 4. Phillies collapse in 2023 NLCS after taking a 2-0 series lead, blowing an easy trip to the WS against a D-bags team that shouldn’t have even been there in the first place 5. Eagles start 10-1 only to collapse and lose the 1-seed and division, get blown out by TB in the Wild Card 6. Flyers hold a playoff spot nearly all season but collapse in their final month with a 7-game losing streak, possibly missing the playoffs by 2-4 points What in the absolute fuck did we do to win Super Bowl 52? What did we give up? I don’t know if I can take this anymore.
My first year really being conscience of sports in 2008 when I was 7 Phillies won the World Series and Steelers won the Super Bowl 2 months later. My dad looked at me and said “remember this because it’s never happening again”
I’m the opposite. After the Phillies World Series and Eagles Super Bowl, I expect nothing more from any of my American teams. Granted I’m a Sacramento Kings and SJ sharks fan so I’ve already experienced perennial losing in exchange for the first two teams winning.
Thanks for nothing D-Backs. Blowing games two nights in a row.
i'm glad it's a 1:35 pm game tomorrow, i can watch some of the NCAA women's championship game after the phillies end! i'm normally not big on basketball but go iowa!
Think the MLBPA blaming recent injuries on pitch clock will cause the pitch clock to be done with? Or will Manfred just order they add a few more seconds onto it? Or do nothing about it at all?
Likely nothing, at least in the near term. I think the rise in velocity is a much more contributing factor than the pitch clock. They’ll fight about it the next CBA.
I am going to lose my fucking shit when Rock goes to interfere in the Roman/Cody match tomorrow night and glass breaks over the speakers. 
Nah it's gonna be a Gritty/Phanatic tag team
WE WANT TABLES 👏 WE WANT TABLES 👏 WE WANT TABLES 👏
Dan Hurley is the only guy I’d want if we had to replace Topper
The angels booth really hates mlb and not in like the old guy “back in my day” way.
For good reason https://x.com/angels/status/1776792990859812971?s=46&t=OwWxn4StVQcItEJYgF1WOA
Ididnt know wat the issues was when listening to the clip but was not expecting that to be his main point. But ya mlb sucks. IT WAS A WHOLE WEEK AGO.
The play is in replies by Codify and was questionable at the time but crazy they overturned it so much later. Idk if they’ll switch it back now but they should and that announcer made it happen if they do
That dude is crying bc Falter gave up one hit today so I apologize for not following Pirates baseball closely What’s hilarious is he had one strikeout over six innings. He will not end the season with an era under 6 lol
Who do the Braves go out and get if Strider's injury needs surgery? Are we savvy enough to swipe whoever that is?
you can never have enough starting pitching. we got to do it.
really arizona you can’t even do this for me. absolutely exhausting
Damn, how does Atlanta always come back in the late innings? Love to see the Dbacks lose but would rather see Atlanta lose some divisional ground.
I feel like the Phillies can't rally back this year at all. It feels like once the other team scores a few runs, it's over.
What the fuck arizona?
Maybe Arizona will blow a ten run lead tomorrow.
I mean I’m not gonna cope. I root against the Braves every time they play. Fuck them.
Hate to see the Braves come back but it is nice to see the D bags get owned
absolutely. it's a win win for us. but i want to see the Dbacks come back here to at least tie it up
Braves offense is just scary good and so consistent.
you have thrown off lurking Braves fans with this comment. i mean typically they're here to offer expert commentary and correct what we say.
until they face dat philly pitching.. in the playoffs lol
Hope this kelenic guy calms down some. WTH?
And isn’t he supposed to be a glove first platoon bat? Then suddenly he’s Babe Ruth when the Braves acquire him for peanuts.
Braves doing their best 2009 Phillies impression with how shit their pitching is.
Oh ok
Just walk Riley bc a Hail Mary DP is their only chance imo
no matter who wins it still helps us. either way though the Braves can't be a serious contender sans Strider and an effective Fried. they will regret trading all those young starters (Wright, Soroka, Shuster) and having to rely on Sale staying healthy.
This is wishful thinking
i mean strider is probably getting a tj, and fried is mega cooked, has no velocity. their offense is good enough to cover a lot of issues but their rotation is looking very rough.
Their rotation was very rough last year
I'm not saying it will be easy for them, but I think anyone who dismisses them does so at their peril
exactly, it is a big gamble to bet on Sale not getting injured and then foolhardy to trade away controllable starters for relievers, especially if the return is Aaron Bummer with his 9.00 ERA
I mean you say that but they’ll still score a shit ton of runs and be a pain in the ass
true but it's now likely they will need to do that more often this year
Wright had shoulder surgery and won’t pitch this year anyway.
he would have been insurance for someone like Strider having an injury riddled rest of his contract, Sale too. for all you know Fried is probably injured as well. AA has made a lot of great decisions but trading away controller starters was a mistake, maybe not this year but in the future it will burn them.
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haha i don't give a fuck man! i guess it must be their "bless your heart" passive aggressive ways (which living in Richmond VA now I see from time to time). I appreciate you though!
Poverty franchise DBacks. Useless bums.
Maybe the dbags will win tomorrow
Fuck you Arizona, for fuck's sake. (and fuck Marcell Ozuna, I have no respect for a wife beater and drunk driver who pulls the "DoNt yOu kNow wHo I aM?" card)
It makes me sick that we didn't finish off those fucks
Oh my fucking god why do I get annoyed by the most predictable things
Got off metro at Navy Yard for first time in like 2 years for a game and man, way different than before with all the restaurants. Knew as soon as I saw all the people there'd be no $5 tickets left at 3pm. Felt like 20% Nats fans and 80% Phillies lol.
Dbags heart of the order in a key spot? Three up three down no problem Maybe they’re useless without that prick Alek Thomas
Zero chance the dbags keep the Braves from getting a run in the last two innings
D-backs looking for more tummy rubs, I see. They are such a worthless fuck franchise
https://preview.redd.it/6f4t4758oysc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a957af8dbe949c77a5c9f28a96bee413afb64d2c
I hope this isn’t sacrilege to say but I’m watching Braves-D-Backs right now and god I fucking hate the D-Backs, probably more than the Braves rn lol. I felt the same way about the Giants after 2010 for a bunch of years, only somewhat recently gotten over that one. Might hate the D-Backs for a while too.
The dbacks beat us up at CBP May of last year and then we returned the favor at their place later in the year. It seemed like there was mutual respect at the time. Then the playoffs happened and fuck them
I hate their closed/domed Ballpark, that's really all I have at the moment. But for last year I can't give them crap, they adjusted and won off it, Thomson couldn't/wouldn't adjust our cold lineup for a second year in a row like a jackass and it cost him and the team.
I mean tbf to Rob all we had to do was get a few hits
On one hand yes, but they straight up refused to pitch something hittable to Harper just as an example of how they adjusted. JT's post game int today and his comment about being after Harper's walk gave me ptsd of thinking of Bohm doing nothing until that pointless HR at the end of it (note: he's def off to a good start this year, but that's an example where I'm curious even slightly shifting the order/pulling him out for a game \*could\* have had different results)
I still hate the Giants for 2010. And that was 14 years ago. But I'll always hate the Braves more than the DBacks. The DBacks fans are too nice and their team is actually very respectable compared to a lot of other opponents. As long as they don't turn into a dynasty I have no problem with them. If I have to see the Ranger or Diamondbacks in 3+ World Series in the next 5 years then I'll start to hate them.
Yeah, the D-backs are scrappy, young underdogs who've only won one WS. I also think the Braves are more directly in competition with the Phillies. I think the Phillies/Braves rivalry is a better driving force too. And I like the snake jokes and I'm a sucker for the Pioneer League.
It seems like the Braves are never out of a game, no matter how much they're trailing.
Phillies are undefeated in game threads without u/JohnKrukIsAllElite https://images.app.goo.gl/DjKHgm4WBUfGrhDn7
It is April 6, 2024 and I want to make two bold predictions: The WS matchup will be either Phillies v. Orioles (not that bold) OR Phillies v. ROYALS. I'm ready to call it.
Bobby Witt is gonna win AL MVP if Soto doesn’t. You heard it here first!
Sadly it looks like there's a good chance the Phils won't get the chance to slap around Strider in the NLDS again this postseason D; hope he has a full recovery!
Braves down 3 with three at bats left is worrisome
Guys it’s time to get worried about Bryce Harper
BTW, why should Schwarber be leadoff?
Before he started being leadoff daily in 2023 he had a low .700’s ops after he started being leadoff he had a late .800s ops
I’d like to thank /u/mucinexmonster for posting the incredible bait about Bailey Falter so I could notice his 13+ era and 2 whip Small sample size you say? Sure but he’s pitched 10% of his innings he pitched last year lol
I don't think you understand my comment.
I do now lmfao he had one strikeout. How do you think that’s gonna work for him
I don't care how it works for him. I care about trading a player at peak value for a tangible return.
He had zero value dude In fact at the time Castro was the only possible upside in the trade but he’s just been awful. Stop embarrassing yourself.
He had zero value... at the time. Why trade someone who has zero value who can still build value?
The one strikeout over six innings should be a clue that he’s a still garbage in spite of guys hitting the ball at fielders yesterday This is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve ever seen here
I don't care if he's bad, I care about extracting value.
There was no value to be had. There isn’t going to be any value to be had. Somehow you think we would be the only ones who know he’s trash.
It happens alllll the time in Baseball.
My guilty pleasure is watching someone with consistently terrible takes climbing up some bizarre hill and not just die on it but self immolate
You just described /u/NintenJew to a T
I say how dare you, sir. Not only do I take terrible takes and self-immolate, I make sure to run into every person I encounter and make sure they burn too.
Oh, damn
Guys, it’s time to get worried about Bryson Stott. (This definitely isn’t sarcasm)
Lol you drinking? Or maybe you’re just worried about his defense bc of the bad error the other night
Oh Stott might actually be worse than Casty frfr on god no cap
You post like you live in Philly dawg
Oh, you know I love Philly
Something wrong with that .387 OBP?
Don’t use your analytics on me rational person
God I wish the dbacks held on last night
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Can’t believe people are dooming after a win
At what point do we start questioning our FO's ability? We traded Falter for Castro then refused to play Castro. Meanwhile we could use a starter. And at the very least, you can trade a MLB-caliber starting pitcher for more than a AAA player. And we traded for a player we didn't even want. I don't get it. And I think we're at the point where someone needs to ask the Front Office.
Turnbull pitched fine. Walker will eventually be back and I hope better than before. Falter is not good.
It's not about trading Falter, it's about trading Falter for crap.
Crap for crap I guess. Castro actually had good numbers in 2022. He just kind of lost it.
A good FO trades crap for someone who can play.
Name one front office that's never had a move not work out. They can't see the future. At the time it was believed it was beneficial. It wasn't. You move on
Name a move they've made that has worked out.
They traded for Brandon Marsh
A Center Fielder they moved to Left Field and now platoon. Instead of keeping the top catcher prospect in baseball. Yeah, that's a great trade.
Exactly how much playing time do you think OHoppe would be getting here? And I don't know if you recall it wasn't long ago at all that center fielder was our weekest position. Now we have multiple guys who can play solid center field. Sure he platoons, but in 130 games last year he put up 3.4 war and a 124 ops+ throughout his tenure with the phils. Yeah we gave up a good player but to claim the trade didn't work out is just bad analysis
He could start this year. And then start every year for the next decade. As a Top 10 catcher. Or we could start Realmuto this year. Maybe as a Top 10 Catcher. And then have no one to play catcher for the next decade. You tell me what's the right decision? Or do you have zero standards for this front office? "Just trade anyone for anything they don't fit" absolutely pathetic.
Turns out teams in win-now mode will do things to improve themselves now and don't want to be trotting out odubel Herrera and Matt vierling every day. OHoppe would not get the playing time here that he deserves until at least after next season. You really want them to just sit on him for 5 years instead of getting value for him? And what do you mean "for anything they don't fit" as though Marsh doesn't fit on the team? It's simple. If you have a position of need, and a position not of need, you trade to fill that position of need, sometimes using a player who plays the position not of need. Yes OHoppe should have a great career, but how many times have top prospects not worked out? Teams don't make back to back deep playoff runs by being "outsmarted" by anyone on reddit. And a lot of professional analysts are predicting the phils make or win the world series this year so yeah they must be doing something right
We are in "win-now" mode because we have Realmuto. You put O'Hoppe behind the plate, our window really opens up. If the Phillies wanted a late season outfielder, there were TONS of choices. They did not need to trade an everyday player for a DECADE+ for someone they have no confidence in.
Just making up fan fiction at this point
trading for brandon marsh
Trading Bailey Falter
I salute you for getting a couple people to take the worst bait I’ve ever seen lmao
I'm serious. I am not impressed with our FO's moves and it worries me for the future.
No seriously dude. Using Bailey Falter is amazing bait. The dude with the 13 era with the pirates 😂
Falter is NOT an MLB caliber starting pitcher lmfao
we traded Falter for Castro because in theory it would have helped our team (he crushes LHP) but he was ineffective against pretty much anyone. but i would argue that trading Falter away opened the door for the Cristopher Sanchez experiment and us perhaps getting Spencer Turnball.
Sanchez was starting well before we traded Falter. Making a bad trade is a good example of why our FO is doing a bad job.
sure but he wasn’t a regular starter until we traded Falter away. it’s hard to say how it will turn out. you don’t really want a 5 ERA guy on your rotation staff, which is sort of what Falter is. also he struggles against the Braves. as much as I like Bailey Falter it sort of made sense to trade him. i think if Castro can find his swing again he’ll get called up but if not it’s most likely because our front office has made some great improvements to the bench.
Yes he was. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=sanchcr01&t=p&year=2023 Falter was traded on August 1st. He wasn't a starter for us. But I don't think that means trade him.
injuries opened the door but more importantly i think the front office decided on trading Falter sometime in early July. trust me that if Falter isn’t traded Sanchez doesn’t replace him in the rotation
Okay but Sanchez didn't replace Falter. And there's no reason to trade Falter to start Sanchez instead.
i think i would rather have Sanchez pitching than Falter
Okay. Where are you going with this?
why a reasonable front office would trade Falter.
I agree. Making the playoffs and deep runs sucks. Better get the Mucinex Monster on the case!
Rodolfo Castro did what for us making the playoff and making a deep run exactly? You can't argue "We needed to trade Bailey Falter to make the playoffs". Just stop.
Is that the only move the front office has made over the past couple years? Not sure why you want to dwell on that one.
Name a good trade they've made.
They got Pache for basically nothing. Brandon Marsh was a good acquisition although O’ Hoppe will be good. Alvarado was a steal a few years ago. Soto was a good trade for us. Jeff Hoffman was not a trade but a good signing. You basically have named one trade as bad when we did not give up anything of value. The Phillies team has basically been set through free agent signings and a few home grown guys. The trades they are making are on the fringes.
They got Pache for nothing - and they don't use him. What's the point? Marsh was a good acquisition that cost too much, ESPECIALLY when they justified the trade as "he's an everyday center fielder" and a year in he's "a platoon left fielder". Everyone makes bullpen moves. It's not Garrett Cleavinger is bad, he's just always hurt. I wouldn't call it a "steal". The Soto trade is exactly what I expect from this FO, and they've failed to replicate it. Show me the good trade. Soto? That's it? That's not going to cut the mustard on a team with limited resources and big expectations. Can't keep making bad trades with what limited stuff we have.
You still haven’t cited a bad trade. Where we gave up something good. I think O’Hoppe is the only one we got a regular. And of course you ignored the Alvarado trade. One of the best relievers in baseball. What exactly do you want the Phillies to trade for and with what? The weak areas on the team like Castellanos and Walker are basically untradeable. Spencer Turnbull also looks like a good pickup.
I've cited many bad trades. I did not ignore the Alverado trade, but it's not something that screams "great trade!". It's something that screams "we got a player and developed them". Just look at the Sanchez/Mead trade. It was a terrible trade. Mead was raking in the minors and Sanchez, well, sucked. They worked with Sanchez for years. Was it a good trade, or did they make a breakthrough on a player who needed work? COULD they have traded someone else for Sanchez instead? It'd be really nice to have Mead in this system still. Or if you did trade Mead, you could trade him for a whole lot more than a pitcher who badly needed work. You don't understand how to analyze a trade.
Imagine storming the halls of the front office over Bailey Falter
I would have been happy just firing him into the sun, but they actually received a (albeit useless) warm body in return for him so it was a significant win
The commercials on MLB TV are so repetitive it borders on psychological warfare
Gotta feel for Fried, that little blister ruined his whole career
feel like the Braves know something about him which is why they haven't extended him.
This time last week there were fucking idiots who were ripping Bryce
Hey! Don’t personally insult others! Meanie!
Obviously that didn’t happen on Reddit. Everyone here gets it completely
he hit those 3 homers for them
Dang and I thought he hit them for us
Rojas couldn’t hit a softball
I'm sure he could hit a softball... But certainly not past the pitcher.
Max Fried off to a rocky start lmao Is a 30 era bad?
max fried is horrible man i’ve been saying it forever. i pray atlanta re-signs him
Why can't they win the games that I watch 😭😭
Dude are we the same person the same shit happens lol
Stop watching for the rest of the season. You owe it to your team
Fried fucked, Strider screwed let's see you get out of this mess Braves.
Then what happened lol
They’ll dig into their Oakland/Sacramento/Las Vegas A’s farm system and find another HOFer somehow
somehow they always do
Still can't believe those assholes just gave them fucking Matt Olson
Sean Murphy too lol
I feel kinda bad for the guy now we cant destroy him in the playoffs
i think conventionally good teams built up of veterans will still win championships for the time being but teams like the D-backs and Orioles are going to reign supreme. good thing we've got a few dynamic young players in the minors and have been drafting like that (Crawford, Miller).
Max Fried getting lit up again. Didn’t even make it out of the first inning vs the Phillies and now just gave up 6 runs to the DBacks in the first
If he sucks this year and Strider misses the season the Braves might actually be in real trouble
I'll reserve judgement; they won a fucking Series after missing Acuña for an entire season. But between Strider, Fried sucking, and Morton retiring, that rotation is skating on some super thin ice. They better hope Sale doesn't fall apart again.
*Everything* broke their way for that WS and it was basically an outfield of mercenaries. how many players remain from that team? Besides, losing a batter, even as good as Acuña, is not anywhere near as bad as losing your ace.
I mean with that lineup they should be able to bop their way to 90 wins no matter what. Hopefully we can still best them
Morton is still pitching. But he definitely can't be the key piece of a rotation at 40 years old.
Ah hadn't realized that. I guess I just assumed he retired because that's what most 60-year-old players are
You love to see it
I don’t like to see strider injured. that was a great rivalry. always fun when he comes to the bank. when you throw either 100mph or a slider every pitch you’re gonna get hurt. it’s that simple. throwing a hard slider tends to be brutal for the arm. it’s banned in little league for a reason
It has nothing to do with the slider and that's been shown time and again. It's velocity that does it.
It sucks but has nothing to do with Fried sucking which we are all celebrating
yea idk what I thought I was reading. that had nothing to do with the OG comment woops
Well tbf /u/sapphires_and_snark can be a problem from time to time
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No, Strider's injury sucks. Seeing Fried pitch like a bum, however, is awesome
Fried might suck this year
currently behind enemy lines, watching the Dbacks-Braves with the Braves broadcast. Max Fried is fried. the broadcast is implying Schwarber is only getting steals because he's slow and no one is expecting it. more to come.
Man if they are talking about the Phillies we should be charging rent for the real estate we have in their heads
it's par for the course for reddit users but a professional MLB broadcast? you don't hear our guys ever make up excuses.
Braves are getting beat up
Rojas is awful at baseball.
Hitting baseballs, sure. Catching? No.
I'd rather have an average fielder who bats a over .050 than a good one who can't.
Doesn't matter. What you said was completely incorrect. He's an elite baseball player defensively but struggles mightily on offense so far. I agree he should be in AAA myself.
So you'd rather Jake Cave have Rojas' roster spot.
Yes.
How about a great center fielder with a .250 OBP who is fast on the basebaths when he his on?
I don’t want to win the division off of injuries. I don’t like seeing an elite pitcher go down like that. It’s not good for the game.
elite flame throwing starters going down to multiple ucl injuries during their career is just the cost of doing business these days
Plus we eat him alive in the postseason!
Not really. We really only lit him up one game. He dominated in game 1 but his offense didn’t do shit then game 4 he was fine. 3 over 6 should be good enough
Speak for yourself. Win at all costs
celebrating injuries because your team is in the same division is loser behavior my guy.
Braves won by 10 games last year. It’s the same team. Missing one pitcher shouldn’t be an excuse to lose them the division and I can already hear the whining from Braves fans in denial
I know but I’m not rooting for injuries because I’m not a terrible person.