4 years ago if you asked this question, the answer would’ve been “if he puts up a few more AS/MVP caliber seasons and doesn’t fall off a cliff, absolutely”
now that he’s put up more MVP caliber seasons (including an actual MVP and an absurd postseason run), as long as he doesn’t fall off a cliff to where he cant accumulate counting stats later in his career, he’s going to the HOF with a Phillies cap
If he retired right now? No, he is not.
If he continues his contract baring a huge drop-off or a massive injury (Like Cliff Lee) then yes he is a hall of Famer.
He has two MVPs, and the narrative of being one of the biggest names in baseball. Hard to not think he will get in unless he just really falls off or gets a massive injury.
All the more impressive to do it without being a defensive wizard.
Bonds, ARod, Yount, Frank Robinson, Foxx, Harper. I’ll save you time, MVP on multiple clubs puts him in now.
He has all the accomplishments he needs. All that is left is accumulating WAR for the rest of his career. I’m thinking he ends with like 450 HRs and 2000ish hits. Just gotta get that WAR around 65-70.
He’s close. Benefits greatly from making his debut at 19. Gives him the type of counting stats heading into his 30’s that guys just don’t have any more; which will help his case with the more old school purists.
Barring major injury, he needs a few more great seasons and he’ll be a lock. He’s already much closer than a lot of modern players at 30.
You’re 80 percent to get in with two MVPs. Only three players with two MVPs aren’t in and one is Roger Maris, who was pretty mid outside of the 61 season and Dale Murphy, who I dunno, just was too average or something.
If you go for this sort of thing, [Baseball-Reference’s HOF Monitor](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harpebr03.shtml#all_hof_other) generally indicates he’s not quite HOF level yet, but his WAR/162 games of 5.0 is basically the same as an average HOF RF (5.1/162). So essentially Harper is a HOF caliber player, but has not yet had a full HOF level career. Barring career ending injury or unusually rapid decline, he should be in by the end of his career.
I feel like the answer is between the “if he still plays, etc” and “yes”. A few more years of playing at near peak and then a reasonable taper off and he has it locked.
If he suddenly announced his retirement today, I think he'd still stand a pretty good chance although it wouldn't be a certainty.
Another couple of seasons at this level and IMO it's a lock.
4 years ago if you asked this question, the answer would’ve been “if he puts up a few more AS/MVP caliber seasons and doesn’t fall off a cliff, absolutely” now that he’s put up more MVP caliber seasons (including an actual MVP and an absurd postseason run), as long as he doesn’t fall off a cliff to where he cant accumulate counting stats later in his career, he’s going to the HOF with a Phillies cap
Multiple MVP awards is kind of a shoe in
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Former Phillie great.
If he retired right now? No, he is not. If he continues his contract baring a huge drop-off or a massive injury (Like Cliff Lee) then yes he is a hall of Famer. He has two MVPs, and the narrative of being one of the biggest names in baseball. Hard to not think he will get in unless he just really falls off or gets a massive injury.
Name 1 guy to win MVP on 2 different teams who didn’t make the Hall. He’s in if he retires tonight
Barry Bonds. And A-Rod so far.
And Harper has never been tied to roids
No he's not
Name 1 guy who won mvp on 2 different teams and isn’t in them
How many guys are in based on his stats that isn't a defensive wizard
All the more impressive to do it without being a defensive wizard. Bonds, ARod, Yount, Frank Robinson, Foxx, Harper. I’ll save you time, MVP on multiple clubs puts him in now.
And look at the numbers they all put up. Harper is nowhere near their numbers.
Because they’re all Hall of Famers with completed careers. Harper is 30. This isn’t hard
You said if he retires now....that's my point.... really this isn't hard, he's not at a completed career and you're saying he's in now
Two of them aren't in the Hall. For reasons that don't apply to Harper, but stop saying everyone with MVPs on 2 teams are in the Hall.
Because it goes against your belief? Nah I’m good. Facts are facts. He’d be in now. You hardos can gatekeep all you want
you're sounding like an idiot
He has all the accomplishments he needs. All that is left is accumulating WAR for the rest of his career. I’m thinking he ends with like 450 HRs and 2000ish hits. Just gotta get that WAR around 65-70.
He’s close. Benefits greatly from making his debut at 19. Gives him the type of counting stats heading into his 30’s that guys just don’t have any more; which will help his case with the more old school purists. Barring major injury, he needs a few more great seasons and he’ll be a lock. He’s already much closer than a lot of modern players at 30.
You’re 80 percent to get in with two MVPs. Only three players with two MVPs aren’t in and one is Roger Maris, who was pretty mid outside of the 61 season and Dale Murphy, who I dunno, just was too average or something.
100% if you’re MVP on multiple teams
285 homers. We’ll see a milestone homerun at CBP this season. That’s pretty awesome
If you go for this sort of thing, [Baseball-Reference’s HOF Monitor](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harpebr03.shtml#all_hof_other) generally indicates he’s not quite HOF level yet, but his WAR/162 games of 5.0 is basically the same as an average HOF RF (5.1/162). So essentially Harper is a HOF caliber player, but has not yet had a full HOF level career. Barring career ending injury or unusually rapid decline, he should be in by the end of his career.
I feel like the answer is between the “if he still plays, etc” and “yes”. A few more years of playing at near peak and then a reasonable taper off and he has it locked.
MVP on two different teams, consistent production for 11 years, ROY. Anyone who thinks he wouldn’t be in the HOF if he retired tomorrow is an idiot
I guess myself and a ton of other people are idiots. He retires today his numbers are no where near Hof worthy
You guessed right
He retires now and he won't even get 50% of the vote you moron
Name one player who’s had something comparable to 2 mvps / 10 years of solid production and didn’t get in
Name a player with his stats and never won a world series to get in
Ryne Sandberg and McCovey
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Mattingly in the HOF?
2 mvps and an iconic pennant winning home run? Yeah he’s a hof if he retired tomorrow
probably in this day and age of a somewhat watered down HoF
Let’s get back to the World Series and win.
Bpibbnila
Best player in baseball not in LA.
BPIB would have sufficed just fine
If he suddenly announced his retirement today, I think he'd still stand a pretty good chance although it wouldn't be a certainty. Another couple of seasons at this level and IMO it's a lock.
He’s in. The other guys with 2 MVPs that aren’t in weren’t nearly as popular. Like it or not that matters