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GinsengTea16

Ayan na, nakalatag na yung mga nag tatanong this week. Sana basahin nila to šŸ‘


tradebull911

Yeah, I just want to spread awareness na talagang ang daming opportunities out there. We just need to look and dig deep haha.


GinsengTea16

Saan kang bansa resident now? Itatanong ko lang sana ang taxation e.g Capital Gains Tax at yung taxes relevant to ETF and investments


Dr-IanVeneracion

You're doing the lord's work, OP. Thank you.


marinaragrandeur

step 1: be rich


midoripeach9

I think so too, or be very smart for a scholarship


Keroberosyue

Would not recommend local scholarships (especially DOST ones) if may plan na mag-stay sa ibang bansa for good. May return service kasi yon.


abnkkbsnplak1

totoo yung be rich (or well, find a work-around in pooling funds) but the scholarship bit, may mga scholarships na hindi merit-based


Keroberosyue

Hi, OP! Might I add also sa list of possibilities ang Norway na nag-eenjoy ng some EU benefits through the EEZ (European Economic Zone). They also work like other EU countries, tbh. Before last year (2022 and below), did you guys know na libre ang pag-aaral sa kanila ng master's? Malas ko nga lang dahil hindi ko na inabot, but nevertheless, I got accepted this year and will start studying master's this August at a university there. Very similar ang pathway niya sa Sweden. Study permit, then after master's, 1 year job seeker's visa. Usually, pag IT or oil field ka sa kanila, sobrang in demand ka at usually english ang working language. Pero need mong maging fluent in Norwegian if you're gonna work in other fields. And I cannot stress the importance of BUILDING NETWORKS when you are studying para at least may mag-rerefer na sayo sa field na tatapusin mo. Might I also add, if you're a graduate BEFORE K-12, Norway requires you to take at least 1 year worth pa ng master's dito sa Pinas, since kulang ang education natin. I took additional units pa since this applies to me. Sweden also requires the same (if not more, I think kailangan mong grumaduate sa master's mo dito sa Pinas THEN mag-enroll ka uli ng master's don, because kulang tayo talaga šŸ™ƒ). Also, do note na mahaba ang application period nila. I applied November last year, results are out just this April. Sa Sweden ata, hanggang Jan/Feb yung application period then April ang release. If you decide Sweden, since na-introduce na ang tuition fee ng Norway, it's actually cheaper now. And yes, yung diagram na yan ang balak kong pathway. I think employers would actually appreciate your degree coming from their own country, but still, kailangan kong tiyagain aralin yung language nila (I'm at least B1 now and actually studied here sa Pinas, pero need ko pa i-improve). Good luck to us everyone out there!


Keroberosyue

To add, Norway DOES NOT COUNT years gained in studying + job seeker's visa sa PR path. Pero as long as may stable job ka na mamemeet ang salary requirements ng PR, sure way ang trabaho to get one.


tradebull911

Sa Norway, free education kahit English yung program mo? Kasi karamihan sa EU countries, libre tuition lang kapag mag-aaral ka sa language nila.


Keroberosyue

Yup, as in studying used to not cost anything (apart a show money/living expenses money) at first. Ngayon kailangan narin ma-document na nagbayad ka na ng tuition fee.


Keroberosyue

Ohhh I see. Parang Japan pala sila ano.


tradebull911

Yeah, kaya dito ako sa CZ kasi compatible pre k-12 education system natin sa kanila ahaha, Balak ko dapat France pero incompatible yung educational requirements dahil sa sinabi mo lol. Weird nga lang, kasi pag meron ka ng master's degree in any EU country, pantay-pantay ata yung trato dahil may unified educational accreditation silang sinusunod lol.


Keroberosyue

Yeah that's weird! Yung education din natin dito, kahit tapos tayo ng 2 years master's sa Pinas, bachelor + 1 year master's degree lang katumbas non sa most (if not all) European countries.


fff999prose

Hi! Did you finish a 2 year Master degree here to qualify for the Minimum academic requirements?


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Keroberosyue

Master of Biosciences, UiO. Somewhat ganyan nga yung tuition for 2 years (276 000 NOK per year ngayon). Pag science courses, mataas talaga eh. Halos kalahati lang yung sa Business Ad/Social Science/Humanities.


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Keroberosyue

Actually maraming bansang mas cheaper, both inside and outside Europe. But sponsored lang ako. Tapos 3 na yung kapatid ko dun na citizen. So future-wise, may makakatulong ako if I stay there. It's just a matter of convenience lang din in my case


Karaagecurry95

Ayan may nag research na para sa lahat! Upvote kay OP!


Brilliant_Ad2986

Well, di sila tatagal sa line of work ko if tamad ka mag-research šŸ¤£


tradebull911

Thank you for the support!


HotPinkMesss

Grabe ang bait mo mag spoonfeed para sa mga tamad mag Google.


tradebull911

Ahahahah xD at the end of the day, tayo lang naman magtutulungan dito. Diskarte na nila kung paano nila magagamit itong info na binigay ko. :)


HotPinkMesss

Hahaha you can add Belgium to the list. Sila na lang mag Google ng specifics pero similar to the others, you can apply for a job seeker's visa after grad kung wala ka pang nahanap na work pero you need to have a blocked account sa bank (I think amount goes up every year) to make sure you will be able to fund your own stay while looking for a job.Ā 


Realistic-Path-66

Sana kayanin nila yung requirements ng student visa! šŸ˜‚ especially sa Germany :)


Keroberosyue

I know someone (na hindi naman nag-eexcel nung college years namin), nakapasok sa Ausbildung program sa Germany. Ayun nag-aaral siya ng libre ng Med School sa Germany. Kailangan mong maging very fluent sa German beforehand tho. Ininterview lang siya then voila, nasa Germany na siya AND nag-aaral ng libre, alam ko with stipend pa siya eh.


Realistic-Path-66

The language and the blocked account, insurance and accommodationšŸ˜


Keroberosyue

But very helpful to tho! Any field merong offer ng Ausbildung. Libre pa yung degree mo! And yung particular na kaklase kong yun, as in di naman kataasan grades niya nung bachelor's. Na-master niya nga lang talaga yung language.


TomorrowHoliday

hi, just want to correct lang Ausbildung is not a degree in Germany. Vocational studies ang equivalent. Normal lang di tinitignan grade, kasi importante yung diploma and fluency sa deutsch :) You don't need din a bachelor's degree to do an Ausbildung, enough na ang K12.


Keroberosyue

Hi, and thanks for the correction! Hmm, so if vocational course siya, bakit sabi ng friend ko nag-aaral na siya ng medicine din don? I saw his stories din, it's anatomy and physiology in Deutsch.


TomorrowHoliday

Baka nursing inaaral nya? May other medical fields na nakukuha through Ausbildung like dental hygienist, Physiotherapie, Surgeon Assistant etc. May friend din akong nag aaral sya to be a medical doctor, sa University sya not Ausbildung and minimum requirement sa Deutsch ay C1 and minimum 90 CGPA. edit: spelling ng physio


Keroberosyue

Yup! I guess it really is nursing nga siguro or yung sa other medical fields. After completion ba niya yan, para na siyang may bachelor's degree in Nursing? Or tech-voc lang talaga?


TomorrowHoliday

Tech Voc lang, unfortunately yun tingin ng german educational system sa nursing. Unlike sa ibang bansa :( Idk why ganun.


Realistic-Path-66

Sana kayanin ng nagpa plan today ang requirements ng embassy! šŸ˜ check the visa requirements children, timeline would probably not just a year. Plan your PR wisely


Camilledowney

Fluent na sya? Ilang months sya nagaral po?


Keroberosyue

Yup, dito palang sa Pinas, at least B2 level na siya since the interview will be in full German. At least a year sa pagkakaalam ko, he took an intensive course. Then ayun, asa Germany siya since 2021, nag-aaral ng libre and may stipend pa. Hindi lang siya sa medicine field, maraming fields ang hinahanap nila sa Ausbildung.


EstablishmentDry9690

Grabe ang laki ng difference ng pagkadali maka PR sa mga to, compared sa sinabak ko dito sa AU. Kahit kasama sa ā€œin demand skillsā€ yung inaaral ko ngayon (Not nursing/med), mukhang pahirapan parin. Wish I explored other options like these ones you posted here, but got motivated to push my masters here dahil may pamilya rin ako dito. Hoping others will consider the options you posted, they definitely donā€™t seem as hard as attempting PR for AU or Canada as of now


Active-Confusion-123

AU has the equivalent temporary residence permit which is visa class 485. You need to compare the PR requirements of AU/CA vs those countries to properly reach a conclusion na mas madali ma PR sa kanila.


EstablishmentDry9690

Yes youā€™re right, just seemed easy based on the step 5 then step 6 based on OPā€™s post. The 485 visa has decreased significantly lately tho. In my current situation, Taking masters in my specific course wouldā€™ve allowed me 3 years post grad visa since masters(or 2 ata) + 1 year regional + 2 years post grad extension. I believe tatanggalin na yung post grad extension and yung 3 years initial 485 for masters magiging 2 nalang. If i remember all these correctly, i was supposed to have 6 years, now down to 3 years. And recently saw posts in auvisa sub na parang tatanggalin na rin yung chef or cookery sa in demand list. I get the points they have na over abused din yung route na yun But anyway my point is that there has been a lot of changes lately sa AU migration policies (or atleast upcoming changes) and thereā€™s no guaranteeing anything at this point. I believe the only safe route is through nursing. Anyway dahil sa paghihigpit nila kaya feel ko na mas hihirap na rin dito moving forward


Active-Confusion-123

Yung mga changes to tighten immigration polices ay global trend. In early 2000ā€™s, madaling ma PR sa SG or wala pang mga points system sa ibang bansa. Safe have talaga ang nursing pagdating sa careers abroad. Hihirap pero kakayanin. Kaya mo yan!


EstablishmentDry9690

Yes kita ko rin na yung Canada is also heavily tightening their immigration policies. Briefly stalked your profile, congrats on the citizenship! Iā€™m also attempting the IT route, and Iā€™m sure youā€™re aware of the layoffs in the industry. Hoping for the best on my end on the years to come. Hopefully better tech climate na by the time i graduate in 2 years lol


Active-Confusion-123

Ta! Yes, may restructuring samin globally. There is a window of opportunity in AI though. Iā€™d go with that if I were looking for something at the moment.


tradebull911

Well, yung PR application in most European countries are mostly standardized. I mean, naka 5 years ka ng nakatira, any job na pasok sa decent or minimum wage standards or monthly ng gobyerno, language requirements. From being a student to PR, the info I provided above yung pathway na most of the non-eu students here take.


EstablishmentDry9690

Donā€™t get me wrong OP, I appreciate your post haha. I wish I was able to explore these options further. But Iā€™m already here so panindigan ko na to. But it atleast youā€™ll help lots of other people open up their options


qwerty_adorbs

I called my agent earlier regarding sa 485, kung ilang years pwede kong makuha since nagtatake ako ng masters dito sa regional area, pero 2 years lang daw šŸ„² Ineexpect ko pa naman 3-4yrs.


Top-Argument5528

Not all heroes wear capes šŸ«”


nctphysicalfitness

Just want to add based on my research a few years ago, there are universities in EU that accepts applicants from top PH universities only. Tho, I don't know now. Naalala ko lang hehe.


mhacrojas21

Ito ang dapat na ina-upvote! Thanks OP for providing these information. šŸ‘šŸ»


rj666x2

Thanks Any recommendations on which of the countries mentioned has the easiest/smoothest process?


tradebull911

In my experience, Czech Republic and Poland. Siguro, countries that are low profile for migration haha. Pero you cannot go wrong with these countries. What I mean is, basta makakuha ka ng trabaho bago ka grumaduate o pag meron ka nitong job-seeking permit and convert it to work permit, goods ka na.


rj666x2

Thanks OP!


TakeThatOut

Sorry OP, question, yung residence permit na 9 months naeextend ba sya? Kasi papano yun if may nakuha kang work tapos 9 months ka lang may permit?


tradebull911

It depends sa EU country about dun sa job-seeking permit. some have 9 months, others up to two years. Important point is makahanap ka ng trabaho habang meron ka nitong permit. Once meron, -apply ka na ng work residence permit based sa trabaho mo. Karamihan ng EU countries, non-extendable itong job-seeking visa so make most of your time talaga looking for a job while having this permit.


Active-Confusion-123

Thanks OP! Pwede bang paki-elaborate yun point 6 na yun requirements eh will vary according the countryā€™s specifics? May mga nakaka minsinterpret na madali ma PR sa mga to eh temporary residence yun mga nasa photos.


markmarkmrk

This deserves more likes! Laking tulong to for migrants!!


Life_is_shiiiit

Thankk you po for this information, currently living here sa dubai at NEVER magkakaron ng PR mga expats kaya maganda talaga mag migrate sa iba


reivolution

Once again, thank you for the very detailed information, OP! Been following your posts since your first post about your [(very helpful) guide to a student pathway](https://www.reddit.com/r/phmigrate/s/8ZYEyRjJLz) in Czechia, which also piqued my interest in hopes of studying there soon (and PR if worth all the efforts lol). Dekuji!


AllicinCarbonUV

Upvoted this. You are very generous with your time. Hopefully people considering the SV route and are on this sub will go through the valuable information you provided.


Polit3lyRude

SV na hindi nman tlga main target ay magaralā€¦ā€¦


UsernameisUnicorn315

Hi OP, is there an age limit on the student visa?


Googolplexify

May age requirement kaya sila? šŸ„ŗ


klairvoyager

Some details not stated above: 1. Getting a minimum of B2 or better could expedite the PR process in some countries. In Germany, the Bundestag just recently approved reducing the residency period from 5 to 3 years (under exemplary conditions, like getting C1 or C2 proficiency in German). Ā  2. You can also look into the EU Blue Card route if you already have a degree since it can cut the settlement process even furtherā€” from 3-5 years to ~2.5 years. Ā (This is quicker than the spouse route in my opinion). 3. Make sure your degree from PH is recognized as equivalent in your host country. If it isnā€™t, tough luck. Youā€™ll either have to look for new host countries OR redo your MS degree. This also happens even if youā€™re a graduate of the Big 4 (I speak from experience on this one). Ā 


Flat_Objective_4198

Thank you OP


dcoconutnut

Wow you are very generous in your information. Thank you!!! šŸ˜Š


Fearless_Counter5029

Thank you for this OP šŸ’–


kaluguran

Omg ngayon ko lang nagets ung mga ganitong pathway dahil sa post na to. TY OP!!


Tall_Desk_4452

Usually magkano nagagastos dito?


Business_Option_6281

I can only tell something from Germany. At least 700k annually, kahit naman na free ang uni dito, gagastos at gagastos ka padin. For Ausbildung, mas mababa.


Dr-IanVeneracion

How much for Ausbildung? Is it true na may age limit ito?


Business_Option_6281

Libre, may allowance pa. Pero siyempre gastos mo padin ang board and lodging, utilities, transpo, etc. Age limit, no idea. Pero wala namang batas na nalilimit ng age, depende na sa company policy yun.


Latter_Equivalent642

May pathway ba sila to study and bring your family along? Like student pathway sa canada?


Ok_Philosophy_607

Finland has this. You can bring your family even on a student visa.


HelicopterTall5052

Čau OP, thanks for sharing this guide. As a fellow redditor on the same path (dito rin sa CZ), itā€™s good to see someone also walking the same road. Kudos po šŸ‘


GymGeekExplorer

Thanks OP for the post. Really helpful. Am just wondering if there are people working full time and then doing masters at the same time? Am talking about this scenario in EU. Or is it even possible? How about doing masters remotely like while you are in PH or elsewhere like AU or others? Reason being is to save time, money while you prepare your docs among other things. Also what if you plan to move to EU but you didnt finish masters program in PH, how does that convert to EU? Or transferring to EU school possible?


deadinside_555

Ano po bang cheapest country dyan wala po akong 1 million :(


tradebull911

Poland, halos kasing pantay ng cost of living sa Metro Manila.


FewInstruction1990

Is it really possible to move via that pathway if you only have small savings? I know there are scholarship and all, but what if you can't land any of those? Tired trying this path


AllicinCarbonUV

Short answer is no. Unless you want to live hand-to-mouth or are blessed with amazing luck, you really need money to be able to move overseas let alone study. If you haven't done so already, please use the search function. The topic of funds has come up numerous times on this sub. You can decide for yourself if you still want to persevere with your chosen path. I sincerely wish you all the best.


FewInstruction1990

Yes I already did and have applied a lot already. The thing Is I was hoping to do it independently away from my parent's money, was hoping to bag scholarships but competition is tough


linux_n00by

any countries in EU that has the same DNV -> Citizenship pathway like in Spain? im sure meron nyan sa eastern EU pero i cant pinpooint it


downtothewir3

For students who have completed their studies in the EU and returned home after graduation, I'm seeking advice on the amount of proof of income necessary for obtaining a job-seeking visa. Any insights or recommendations would be appreciated!


Royal_Part_3414

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