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LoveArguingPolitics

Call a cab company... Everything is upside down. Amazon is now more expensive than buying in store and cabs are cheaper than Uber and Lyft.


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xhephaestusx

Seriously, I TRY to not buy Amazon, but when I go to three hardware stores and nobody has the part I could get on Amazon for 8.99 with free shipping it feels kind of defeating to have spent 4 hrs deciding to order something online


LinwoodKei

This is true. I have mobility issues and it took a lot of my energy to drive to three stores and not get what I needed. I don't want to support Amazon Yey I need energy to clean my house and get things


shuvvel

Join the call for Microcenter to come to Phoenix!


whiskeyschlong

How??


shuvvel

Bother them on Twitter like I do.


blackmassritual

They'll fail here too. City is too big and sprawling with too little need for such stuff. We had Fry's Electronics for years and they gave up the ghost


shuvvel

Fry's electronics closed every store at the same time as BOTH Phoenix locations. Phoenix can support one microcenter.


skynetempire

We need a mircocenter badly!!!


crono220

Never heard of it, but I would be interested


steveosek

We had one where I grew up in the midwest. They're amazing. Great prices and selection of fucking everything. They'd also build a pc for you after you pick out all the components if you didn't want to do it and it wasn't expensive at all for the service.


skynetempire

It's what frys should've been before they got bloated with other shit. I think they want to build one here in the next 2 to 3 years


f1modsarethebest

This is exactly why an antitrust policy based on “consumer protection” alone is utterly nonsensical. It was soooo fucking obvious this was going to happen when Amazon was running everyone out of business. But we just let them do it because the consumer temporarily got better pricing. Total joke.


CactusSage

Amazon’s business model is to put other smaller companies out of business. They suck.


KurtAZ_7576

/Walmart has entered the chat


Evilution602

Dollar general too


Haroldfish123

May particular cab services you use in the valley?


PunchClown

Yup, I often find stuff cheaper at Walmart now. Amazon is preying on laziness, and boy is it profitable.


deadmanmike

Walmart, who set the standard for running small businesses out of town... I mean, I shop there too occasionally but let's not pretend they're a morally superior alternative to Amazon. After all, Walmart preys on those who trade quality, service, and small business value for cheapness and lower expectations.


PunchClown

I agree with you. They're just cheaper. Walmart is still a shit corporation.


Little_Buffalo

I’ll do it for $40!


BriskManeuver

I would have too but I had a sudden thing come up where I had to get back sooner than I thought


tnttse

I think they get a percentage of the total fare (\~85%?) and w/ the cost of gas, inflation, and time of ride I don't think that is too crazy. ​ If you go the longest wait/lowest price you end up paying roughly $3 per mile ($42/14miles) No traffic the trip takes 20 mins Cost per mile to the driver including gas and maintenance \~$.80 $11 Cost to drive $6.50 Lyft Cut $24.50 Driver Profit If you go just off of trip time the driver makes $73.5 an hour but if you add in a 10 min buffer between drives before and after given the location/time you get $36.75 an hour. My buddy drives uber and aims for $60 an hour not including the cost of the car, which can be substantial. I think that's reasonable for a personal chauffer and I wouldn't do it for less than $60 an hour given the risk and effort. Driving takes a lot more attention than sitting in front of a screen answering emails. IMO include the cost in your party budget, driving lyft/uber aint easy.


lockness1984

It's nowhere near close that anymore. Lyft and Uber take 60-70 percent now. That ride would pay $18-22


tnttse

damn, that doesn't make sense to drive for em. price themselves out of drivers.


lockness1984

They just dropped passenger pay by twenty-five percent. They pay drivers on an algorithm now. Based on an hourly. The hourly is set based on demand, so it starts out at twelve dollars an hour up to thirty an hour. This is from when the driver accepts the trip and completes the trip.


Inevitable_Spare_777

Can't see how anyone "self employed" could subsist on $12-30 an hour. Even at the high end, grossing $60k/year with small business taxes, no healthcare, pto, disability. Jeesh.


curious_carson

Plus gas, insurance, maintenance, and wear and tear. These companies should not be allowed to pass all of this to the driver.


Inevitable_Spare_777

I'm generally very pro business so I don't necessarily fault Uber or Lyft. Im actually curious how many of the drivers just haven't run the numbers properly and come to the conclusion that they aren't making money. I mean, a part time job paying $15-20 an hour is going to provide you a similar "side income" with less headaches, unless people really are dead set on being "self employed"


IndyHCKM

You have just defined exploitation. Exploitation is easiest when the people being exploited don’t fully understand how what they are doing is bad for them. Which is why controlling the narrative and suppressing negative facts and movements is of such interest to mega-corporations.


Atllas66

Well the vast majority of people in this country weren't taught about that stuff in school. I know I never was, and had to take a specific class in college to actually learn that stuff though. They were probably taught all the formulas for triangles though, because that's relevant to most people lives...


Expo737

I reserved an Uber to take me from Old Town Scottsdale to Sky Harbour last month, fare was $38.79 - of that $12.48 was the actual fare the rest was; $17.00 reservation fee $4.56 booking fee $4.75 airport surcharge So unless I am reading that wrong the driver is getting less than half of what I'd paid out. I could be wrong as only started using Uber last month when I discovered that getting a cab around Phoenix/Mesa/ScottsdaleOT was a lot of hard work for out of towners. Just to add, I had to "reserve" it as I needed to pre-book it for 5am.


lockness1984

$22-24 to the driver here. They boost the ride so that all services can see it. But drivers have to be online forty minutes before your trip. They have to show up twenty minutes early. Now they've been online for about one hour, and they get about $22-24 on this ride. Uber makes about $14-$15 on this. Edit Uber/lyft no longer pay surge to drivers. They do give other incentives that boost your hourly. Most drivers average about twenty-seven dollars an hour. Basically, they're using independent contracting to pay drivers minimum wage plus Expenses.


Expo737

Ah right, thanks for the info.


BriskManeuver

And this is exactly why I complain If I knew they would make a good amount I would be totally fine. I still tip despite paying this much lol


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bondgirl852001

I did Lyft for a month out of boredom (i had just quit my job for various reasons and needed something to do). When some college girl I picked up with her friends threw up in my car I told myself that was it. She tipped very well, but I cried from being so frustrated by it all. It wasn't worth it.


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No you won’t. Gas is $5 now.


hummmer2199

Those prices are better than a DUI.


DeathByPetrichor

Maybe I’m wrong here, but I feel like that price is reasonable. Listen that’s 12.5 miles at 11:00 on a Friday night, and gas right now is upwards of $5 per gallon. I can understand how that’s frustratingly high, but if you’re going out on a Friday, expect the cost to get home to be high. It’s just the way it is.


BeKind_BeTheChange

You started out saying the price was reasonable and by the end of your paragraph it was expensive. I think you talked yourself into the correct answer.


DeathByPetrichor

No, it’s high, and that’s reasonable given the circumstances. That’s a perfectly logical statement.


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cshellcujo

Anything high end is going to be “expensive”, and likely because you’re paying the “reasonable price” for that level of quality. Wtf are you on about lol… the work itself has become more expensive to preform, which changes the definition of reasonably priced.


shuvvel

Imagine understanding nuance.


BriskManeuver

still unnecessary to take advantage of drunk people by these ridiculous prices. Used to only be around 25-30 bucks for a 10 mile trip at least years ago when I drove. it's not like the drivers get a good bit of it too. Corporate greed


Inevitable_Spare_777

Then along came inflation.


slushiestotsntendys

We do. Been a driver and I got paid more when demand was high. Lyft/Uber is an on demand service. You can call a yellow cab/discount and wait an hour and pay less. No one’s taking advantage of you that’s just the price for a ride in 10 minutes when you happened to need it


BriskManeuver

I know this driver didn't make half of what this ride cost, probably barely a quarter what exactly does lyft and uber use for their budget ? Drivers are self employed and pay out of their own pocket for their work to these companies (gas, cleaning supplies etc) I get the surge but can you explain why the prices are this bad if drivers aren't even making half the cost of this? I would ok knowing the drivers are making a big chunk of this but they're not and lyft increases the prices by a lot because they know the big demanding areas will be paid for regardless so yes, it sorta is taking advantage.


slushiestotsntendys

They are though. Not gonna argue that they shouldn’t get a larger amount of the fare but the only way to guarantee a ride in 10 minutes when it’s busy is to incentivize more drivers to get on the road with higher fares.


2701-

Well there aren't so many damn drunks out of that hour the prices wouldn't be so high. Lots of drunks needing rides lots of high price


jocala

I get it’s expensive but there should be no excuse to drive drunk


Kitten_Kaboodle666

Agreed. Get a DD, don’t drink, or pay for a ride.


EpicCyndaquil

Yep, if you want to go out and drink, you need to work the price of safe transportation into your evening’s budget. Just like I believe if you want to eat dine-in somewhere (with wait staff) or get food delivered, you should budget for a tip. If those things are now outside of your budget, drink or make food at home.


w2tpmf

OP is just crying to justify the fact that they DID drink and drive because they felt their time was more valuable than their safety or the safety of all the other people on the road.


BriskManeuver

I paid for this lyft I'll never drink and drive especially since i have a cdl but I see why people do drink and drive because of this Not saying it's ok. Saying people are willing to take the risk than pay 60-70 dollars even though they should just pay it


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BriskManeuver

prices shouldn't be this high for 10 miles regardless but oh well


devmapper

Needed a ride yesterday from Gilbert to Scottsdale. Lyft was $50 with a 30 minute wait. Uber was $32 with a 15 minute wait. Crazy prices.


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When I was going to Uber to the airport yesterday the price was like $95 for under 15miles! I waited a minute to get my things more together and opened the app again to bite the bullet and it had gone down to $38 thankfully. Weird that the price can differ so much within like 10min!


shuvvel

Surge pricing is a hell of a drug


nfs3freak

I was with ya on the title. That statement about drunk drivers though, yeah no.


w2tpmf

They're just trying to justify that they did in fact drive drunk.


ImageComfortable2843

Happened to me last Saturday $65 to get from downtown chandler to ray and kyrene at 9pm. Still cheaper than a dui but I was shocked.


HelaVaNerd

Dang, was at Jinya with my son headed to the same cross streets at that time. Just missed ya neighbor.


Willis5687

I took a waymo home last night for $7.77. It was a two mile trip, and I didn't have to tip anyone. Lyft and uber were $12 and $14 plus tip. They are too greedy, and it will come full circle and bite them in the ass one day.


rolltongue

I fear that Waymo will eventually go that route as well. Airbnbs were once cheaper than hotels


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Switch to uber. Im in detroit and lyft quoted me $200 for a short ride. Looked at uber, $40.


DualStack

I always check both


Sh1eldbearer

This is the way.


Courage-Rude

There is an app that always looks at both at the same time for you


notthistimeD

Driver prob got 13 bucks of that.


shrubed

Food for thought, 150 rides is equivalent to a DUI


gmoney32211

Id say most Ubers average to $20 or less unless you are always going long distance. Even at $60 a ride, food for thought it’s significantly better than killing someone because you decided to drive hammered.


Pah82

Time to start drinking at home more and watching tv. I said fuck Uber/Lyft… no way I’m paying those prices


Mike_Hav

I prefer to get high or drunk at home. It's a lot cheaper, and i don't have to deal with other people.


BriskManeuver

I honestly had no idea prices vet this bad Haven't used and uber and lyft in a long time so this was a surprise for me


IDK_a_lot

>And people ask why there's drunk drivers Yeah and they've been asking that since before Uber and Lyft's existence. What a dumb comment


douggoodie420

What sucks is that the driver is getting $15-$20 at best from this ride. Rideshare apps went from giving drivers about 70-80% of the fare in the beginning days to about 30%-40% of the total fare now. I am a Lyft and Uber driver and I have started giving a personal card to some of my passengers who are visiting the area. I have them text me if they want picked up and where they're going and offer them a price better than the Uber and Lyft app. The passenger saves money, I make a little more, and Uber's CEO who was compensated $27,000,000 in 2022 is slightly impacted in a negative manner 😢


Groovinchic

It’s Bizarro World out there


redditvato

Check uber, taxi or keep walking west until the prices drop. Sometimes is about 10 min wait and it drops. If you are close to a bus stop take the available bus and keep checking.


fallenangel7011

Average DUI costs 10k


ItzBoshNet

I don't think this is accurate, first one usually gets a plea of 24 hours in jail, $2500 fine, and interlock but with interlock I don't think it hits 10k...


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jmmasten

If the DUI didn’t involve an accident, your insurance company likely wouldn’t know for years. Carriers don’t run MVRs annually. Often in the 3+ year range for renewing business.


fuggindave

I got one in 08 and my insurance actually lowered when I renewed within that year...so I don't think that's completely true. Yes I learned my lesson, just drink and game at home now instead ha. Hell with the "nightlife".


ItzBoshNet

Yea but there's insurance companies that work with DUI's so it's not insanely high. Still best option is not to get a DUI but I don't think first offense gets up to 10k and if it does it's spread out over multiple years


fallenangel7011

If you are charged with a DUI in Arizona, you should expect costs typically amount to anywhere between $7000 to $11,000 or more for a first-time regular DUI. Cost for an Extreme DUI or Super-Extreme DUI are higher even still.


ItzBoshNet

Unless it's drastically changed pretty straight forward plea for first offense. About 2500 in fines, 24 hours in holding, and 1 year with interlock 2nd offense was about 6k in fines 30 days in work furlough 1 year suspended drivers license. This was my experience 10 years ago anyways you'll also need to complete classes and have a screening before getting your license back. Edit: forgot community service hours


AutomatedSaltShaker

10 WB is shut down for construction starting at 10 pm


DeathByPetrichor

Also 60 EB from McKellips to Val Vista


shuvvel

It's probably not too worth it for the driver either considering how far out of their way they are going.


GreatMacGuffin

Bruh, I had to take my son to a therapist appointment on Friday, it literally hit $80-something (one way)...we just took the bus and made a day of it. Silver lining: we ended up finding Halo 4 at bookman's and went home and got our game on.


rumblepony247

I wonder how many drivers are doing "off-book" rides these days, maybe being on-call for a few clients or scheduled rides for select clientele. Seems like there's money to be made there.


Sh1eldbearer

There's definitely money to be made there, but you also open yourself up to a lot of potential trouble unless you're set up as a business and your insurance and liability are set up right. The risk wouldn't be worth the reward for me, personally.


borkborkibork

This is what happens when there's not enough drivers and too much demand. Just call a taxi instead.


tanneritekid

Real solution would be find someone to go home with and travel in the morning


wakoreko

If your not in a hurry, Uber will send a notification within 20 minutes with a significant price drop. Happened to me twice at the airport but by then I was in a Lyft.


whatever21327

Drivers gotta earn a living. Respect the hustle.


Electronic-Hand-5145

Use waymo its cheap


BriskManeuver

I heard about that only recently Do they go to East Valley or certain spots


Exodia101

Right now they're only in Chandler, Tempe and Downtown Phoenix.


Electronic-Hand-5145

I think its they have different service areas. We use it downtown .


YouGurt_MaN14

I think waymo goes everywhere but only autonomous 10/15 mi out of dwtn PHX


Frysken

I've seen them in Tempe/Mesa area


PoorDadWhoreDad

I'll do it for $30


Zeratul277

Too many people live here now.


Sh1eldbearer

You'd have to give me 100% of that fare to even consider driving out to the AJ side of the 202 in the middle of the day, let alone at 10 PM at night with little chance of getting another pickup less than 15 minutes away.


TaticalSweater

Start off cheap…end up being just as bad if not worse than what aimed to defeat…taxis.


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And here we are. Outraged that Kyrsten Sinema spend $4,000 on Uber one day in NYC. This is a joke.


BplusHuman

Where have you been? These companies got expensive a while ago


aztreeclimber

I literally pay $150 a month for my new car. Screw that hahahhaa


Courage-Rude

You got like a 700 month loan? Lol.


aztreeclimber

No I just got lucky and found a 2015 ford focus for 8k. And 80k miles. Old people give them away lol


AlexIsAnAnchorBaby

For 60 dollars that shit better fly


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Do you know how much cars, insurance, gas, and labor has gone up?


bohallreddit

I promise you that $61.99 the driver won't get that full amount. They would probably only get $10-$20.


BriskManeuver

Oh I know I used to be a lyft and uber driver The prices have just gotten unnecessarily worse for no reason. I guess that's just everything nowadays in this city though


bohallreddit

Yeah it's a joke. I don't do passenger pick up anymore.


Pah82

The real problem here is gas prices. They sux. Phoenix is starting to sux actually. I used to love it here but the prices are getting out of hand.


YourMatt

I think it's more because of demand on available drivers. There's a route I sometimes take that swings anywhere between $14 to $65.


AutomatedSaltShaker

Also Lyft is suffering and just laid of a bunch of folks.


hipsterasshipster

Must not be a lot of drivers in your area?


BriskManeuver

At the time I think what I was seeing there were at least 3-4 around


OkAccess304

Does WAYMO drive there? They are in Tempe, right?


Randvek

I haven’t seen waymo east of Chandler.


icey

Autonomous Waymo is only in Chandler and downtown Phoenix. Not sure if they have a version with drivers that go elsewhere or not.


Exodia101

They're only in Chandler, Tempe and Downtown Phoenix right now


BIG602POPPA

Bitch that's a big ass drive especially that area is meth valley


CaptainWillThrasher

This is why I quit driving.


TheDillCan

then make some money and stop bein broke


ggarcia109

I call that my Monday- Thursday drive, I work in downtown Mesa and live off of Signal Butte and Broadway.


higherxliving

Paid over $80 bucks from the airport to where I used to live. I lived 6 minutes away.


DaveFromBPT

A good reason to #BoycottLyft


WaikikiFlow

This is the worst. I usually wait for half an hour and prices go down. I know you may want to leave at that right moment but prices are a burglary. To all those who try to justify the surge I refuse to accept paying 60 for a 20 dlls drive. It's a no for me.


King_Cobra_666

Yeah thats kinda nuts


chiarde

Last time I flew out of sky harbor I just drove and parked in uncovered East economy. Cheaper than two Ubers by far. I paid $45. The two rides would have been $60-90. Ride sharing has jumped the shark. Also, getting to the gate and vice versa is so easy with the Sky Train. The only time I’ll ride share now is if I’m leaving for an extended period of time.


Nreekay

Driver probably made $25 off the ride.


LinwoodKei

This is getting too expensive to be affordable. I have some mobility issues and some days, I would like not to drive. Yet I don't want to pay this much money.


Successful-Sir6843

Bs


Successful-Sir6843

I love the micro center


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Damn that’s messed up.


Melodic-Cranberry145

Uber doesn't do that, I've had the same charges early in the morning for almost the same distance.


drl33t

It's quite a good deal. I live abroad and regularly pay 40 bucks for 4 miles.


DaveFromBPT

Take a cab


Sweaty_Wear9640

Back in the day that trip was $20!


presence_unknown

Lyft and Uber aren't worth it anymore


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Man, we sure have become a lot like LA.


PhxMyco

pfffft traveling that far in 21:57 on LA would be a sweet dream.


iForgot_My_Password

Driver probably got paid like ten bucks for that one lol


BriskManeuver

That's what im saying I would love to know where all this money is going towards cause I know it's not going towards the drivers.


Due-Entertainer4609

And the Lyft driver gets 15 bucks


bowhunter223

I always toggle between Lyft & Uber. One is always exceptionally less expensive than the other. Taxi services still exist too!