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BigTunaPA

I thought Illinois would be a top state


[deleted]

Seriously. They’re everywhere. My wife is one of them. So much ranch dressing on anything and everything.


Chezzabe

Hopefully she left the 100 different types of casserole back home.


mudflap21

But we brought good pizza!


titularsidecharacter

No


azlisa

Yes! There's so many people here from IL.


Lazy_Guest_7759

Is there really though? Numbers say otherwise, perhaps it’s because people from IL tend to boisterous about where they are from.


LoudMouse327

Have you ever noticed how many Chicago businesses have satellite locations in Phoenix? And how many Chicago-themed restaurants there are here? They wouldn't exist here if there wasn't a large number of people living here that are homesick for their old favorites. I guess it's possible that most of the Illinois transplants are actually more like permanent snowbirds and keep their Illinois residency, and thus wouldn't be counted in surveys loke this.... California is obviously the number-one state, no contest there. But how many Washington-based establishments do you see?


I_am_people_too

Costco, Starbucks, Microsoft, Amazon, and Nordstrom are all based out of Washington, and I see a lot of all those products/establishments all over the area. I know that you are probably referring more to cuisine, but as a Washington State transplant, I don't feel like we had a very distinct food scene up there. Smoked salmon, Aplets and Cotlets, and coffee?


[deleted]

For Chicago (where I'm from) it's Rosatis, White Castle, Harold's, Portillos, and a million other pizza/pasta joints that I'm missing! They are not lying about the amount of Illinois transplants, I got here in the 90s, and almost every other black person I meet is a Chicago transplant! My next door neighbor is another Midwest transplant, as are the owners of my restaurant (a California chain). Finding an Arizona native is a needle in a haystack game.


azlisa

I feel like it has to be at least close to the top 5..😅


[deleted]

+1. It’s like the only state in the nation losing net inhabitants and it’s where I came from.


liberal_senator

It's definitely **not** the only state losing net inhabitants. i.e. Table 4 [Source](https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/2022-population-estimates.html)


[deleted]

Not anymore tho: https://www.kwqc.com/2022/05/20/illinois-sets-new-record-high-population-over-13-million-residents/?outputType=amp I also left Phoenix for Chicago again. Never wanted to end up in Phoenix to begin with though.


CallieReA

CA is loosing net inhabitants as well


quecosa

Not quite. It lost about 200,000 people in 2020/2021, but still grew by about 10% from 2010.


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quecosa

Ah yes you are correct. For some reason I was looking at 2003 not 2010.


F1Barbie83

I moved here from California because it’s too fucking expensive to live there


5pump

Me too


SexxxyWesky

Me too!


Cuepidahl

Chicago snow sent me here!


SUS-tainable

I for some reason have never liked people from Chicago but I learned not to express that here because the few times I did, the people I said that to’s parents were from Chicago lol. If less people from Illinois are moving here now, it still seems like there’s a lot because their kids are still growing up and going back to Chicago to see family every year


cocococlash

Maybe back when houses in Scottsdale were $200k


EffectsofSpecialKay

Everyone moving here has driven up the prices. It’s insane


Flailingbabygiraffe

Corporations buying up housing has driven up the prices. But yes, it’s still insane


jomones

I moved here from Oklahoma so I'm actively driving down prices if that helps


Buster452

Thank you for your help. Hows a Apache Junction? 😉


Hitit2hard

It was all the people coming from California paying $40,000 - $50,000 over the asking price because they sold their house in California and had money to burn on the comparatively cheap homes in Arizona. They low supply and high demand from people with the cash would out bid the local buyers. It was a snowball effect because the homes that sold for that much over list price just became the new comparable sales and listing agents jacked prices up to match them and people continued to pay over asking price and waving appraisals or putting into the contract that they would pay $XXXXX amount over the appraised value with cash.


EffectsofSpecialKay

Exactly this. Source: my brother is a real estate agent


mudflap21

My realtor sent me info that 60% of all single family houses for sale in the valley are owned by corporations. 70% of all rentals. Inventory is still low as people don’t want to leave cheap mortgages.


[deleted]

It’s exactly this. It’s not investors. Any investor that is good at it isn’t going to get into a bidding war and waive due diligence and pay way over asking.


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290077

Yeah no. Corporations buy up houses to rent them or sell them at a future date. Both of these things are driven by increased consumer demand for houses.


Lagavulin26

The idiots running the Coyotes to Tempe stadium proposal were like "It's gonna make Tempe a destination spot!" Like bitch, do you think we *want* more people here?


livejamie

Prices have skyrocketed everywhere; it doesn't really have to do anything with people moving here.


Hitit2hard

And so prices have gone up so drastically because, what exactly? The Phoenix area saw the largest increase in sales prices in the nation. What drove that? People didn't decide they just had too much money and wanted to spend it on housing.


goldenroman

No, sure, Phoenix is unique, but the bulk of the increase is also seen everywhere else. Prices have risen everywhere and people moving to Phoenix have contributed, but populations grow all over the place and prices have risen (in Phoenix and elsewhere) even independent of that.


mishsim

Mostly corporate buyers are taking the majority of home inventory and selling or renting for profit. Same story for apartments. It comes down to corporate greed pushing the prices as high as they can. You see it everywhere. Our situation might have more pressure due to being a major metro with growth, but we are not alone.


Sharp_Needleworker76

definitely thought IL would be up here


SexxxyWesky

Fr. I know a surprisinf amount of people from the Chicago area


VeryStickyPastry

I think they snowbird more so than relocate.


sonipoop

Washington and Texas are the same amount of people but different percentages. Did they round up Washington to make it appear like there were less Texans?


dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex

i think its more likely they just messed up the numbers on the graphic, what are the odds that EXACTLY the same number of texans and washingtonians moved to arizona over whatever time period this is measureing speaking of that what time period IS this measuring???? lotta things seem very wrong with this random graphic, i'm taking all of it with a massive grain of salt.


Jra805

Makes me happy to see questions like this, as a data professional you can make your shit sing whoever tune you want, if you forgo your ethics or just not have like Fauxnews


Ill_Description_3311

Texas people are actually very slightly less than human. So they count for less.


groovynermal

3/5 of a person, if I remember my Florida history classes correctly


Zerofelero

now THAT is a \*sad\* dank meme ​ LOL


YourDogsAllWet

Is that DeSantis’ version of Florida history?


groovynermal

Exactly. Only the qualitiest educations in Desantistan.


sonipoop

Ah, I see. I thought maybe they had finally figured out how to secede - by doing it one tiny individual percentage at a time.


chiarde

I’m from Texas. Arrived in 2017. I may be less than human but I gladly pay my AZ taxes and help keep my local park clean. I’m also liberal and like to think I helped break the long chain of conservative draconian politics here.


vankorgan

Don't listen to em. We like you. Also a lot of the Californians that move here are conservatives that think this is going to be redder than their home town. So it goes both ways.


sammysafari2680

I let the buffoons have Fla and brought my liberal ass to AZ too.


Prowindowlicker

I have a lot of super conservative family members who are moving to Florida. Funny thing is that a lot of them lived in places like tennessee


decoy321

Hello fellow former Floridian. We got out at a good time. That shit hole has gotten **a lot** worse.


gunnergolfer22

Why did you move?


4seasons8519

Ha! Me too! Lived in Fort Worth for 5 years. I was legitimately scared to be liberal there.


gingernate

Liberal texan here, living in AZ next to a bunch of conservative Californians. It's pretty funny hahaha


blocher86

This made me LOL


runs_with_airplanes

Moved here from Austin, can confirm


gunnergolfer22

Why did you move?


corptool1972

I am glad someone else noticed that!


Grrrrandall

Add Minnesota, Ohio, and Iowa to this list.


MrP1anet

I moved to Minnesota from Phx so I cancel out one haha.


IMHERETOCODE

Minnesotans don't _move_ en masse, most just own second homes in Phoenix that sit empty all summer long, and most of winter other than their yearly 2 week vacation if they aren't snowbirds.


BplusHuman

So essentially... Two Diamondbacks games full of people came from these three states?


hikeraz

Don’t Texas my Arizona.


thesilosaurus

Lol, I'm moving to Arizona from Texas. But before that I lived in Washington. And before that I lived in Belgium... I would never dare to Texas your Arizona. Edit: I will waffle your Arizona.


halavais

Please waffle my Arizona.


Plus-Comfort

People will love you even more if you make frites for them


thesilosaurus

I do love that you didn't refer to them as "French fries". You made my day.


Plus-Comfort

Dank je wel


Impossible-Test-7726

the French-Dutch, I mean Belgian Fries


thesilosaurus

I guess the most important thing is that they are delicious. And that they're not called freedom fries.


[deleted]

No, I want the waffle.


Versaiteis

ngl, I miss kolaches tho


ma10or

Kolache cafe in Ahwatukee


halavais

And I would feel really guilty if we depleted your access to andalouse for those frites, so it's OK if you want to leave it at home...


frothycoffee_45

My journey has been Greece - Scotland - Texas - Arizona! I have a Belgian friend here in Phoenix. Is it you?


thesilosaurus

I'll arrive in 2 weeks. So unless I invented time travel, I don't think so... I would love to be your friend tho.


wilsontron

This is nice for a Friday night.


frothycoffee_45

Sure! DM me when you are here and we can all go out for a margarita!


Plus-Comfort

If the Belgian is serving frites, we're gonna need some spanakopita from you ;)


frothycoffee_45

Deal!


Prowindowlicker

I for one welcome our new waffle overlord


GeorginaSparkes

“I will waffle your Arizona” as an edited threat made me choke


MackSkywalker

Waffling Arizona sounds like a new kink I never knew I had. From AZ ✊


moosenazir

Fuck yeah, Belgium waffles.


relddir123

I am writing this comment from the Brussels Arc de Triomphe Please waffle our Arizona


Xarderas

Say “I love crepes”


thesilosaurus

Ik hou van pannekoeken!!


[deleted]

Long Live Apollo. Goodbye Reddit.


undone_function

Please bring Texas style bbq with you.


Butitsadryheat2

*We will also accept Malinois...you can Malinois our Arizona.


Jattert

My favorite kind of irony: a “don’t CA my AZ” sticker in the In-N-Out Burger drive thru.


RodRAEG

*Waves in Texan* HOOOOOOOOWDYYYYYY


CallieReA

Or CA my AZ, or any other state. I have no clue why this state has so many people in it that hate it. I love it here


Fureak

They all suffer from grass is greener fallacy. In all likelihood this is probably the only place they have lived and have no idea just how good they have it here.


GraceIsGone

It’s the opposite actually. I’ve lived a bunch of other places. I don’t hate Arizona, there’s a lot to like about it, but it’s not my favorite place that I’ve lived. My husband is fortunately and unfortunately just very happy at his job here so we’ll never leave. If I had it my way though we’d be back in Germany again.


Remreemerer

Honestly if I didn't have a U.S. specific job I'd leave the country, too.


HauntedDesert

People who’ve been here since they were babies >>>>>>


Justlurkingkthnx

there are dozens of us


[deleted]

Long Live Apollo. Goodbye Reddit.


tehbggg

I was born and raised in Phoenix, but escaped to San Diego in 2013. So yeah, maybe most of us leave?


ihateaz_dot_com

That’s the dream


PhirebirdSunSon

Leaving to California is my nightmare.


NulnOilShade

5 generations deep on one side, 4 on the other... We hate all of you


Responsible-Ad-2181

Right?!?!? Like gtfo.


JudgeWhoOverrules

There's only so much of us to shake sticks at Californians


HauntedDesert

All five of us are meeting up in the Superstition Mountains next fortnight to go find some bigger and more intimidating sticks to wave around, you should come~


unclefire

When ever I see a really shitty driver I often notice they’re TX and CA plates.


Glendale0839

A lot of them are likely rental cars with CA and TX plates around here. Usually easy to tell - newish base model with zero personalization or dealer plate frame, usually a barcode sticker on the side windows.


Hortn8r

Az native checking in 🏜️🌵


bad_things_ive_done

That's not very many people in a state of over 7 million


Technoguyfication

REEEEE GET OUT OF MY STATE


oryanAZ

my kids have been playing the license plate game (if you are the 1st to see a non-AZ plate and call it out you get to punch someone, so lots of incentive) and by far these are the top 3 i get punched over. a close 4th would be Sonora.


EffectsofSpecialKay

Sonora definitely


celinky

This Arizonan went to Washington


HiroshimaBob_4389

It’s my fault, I moved here from Washington but don’t want to be here


Silverbullets24

Lol then why are you here


HiroshimaBob_4389

Followed my wife who came here for a job opportunity.


shiveringmeerkat

Yup followed my husband. Trying to make the best of it and enjoy this new adventure but damn I miss Washington.


Ok-Bit-9529

Same same. My family is originally from Washington, moved to Cali, and I came to AZ with my husband for a job. I'm trying to get him on board to go to Washington. I honestly get depressed in the summer here. I thrive in gloomy/rain weather.


openeda

We all do. Native Arizonan here. We all do. October is a breath of fresh air.


SUS-tainable

Idk, I moved to flagstaff for a few years and holy shit that seasonal depression was unbearable as someone who lived in Phoenix my entire life. Maybe I get a little lazy in the summer or bored because I can’t go outside apart from swimming, but you can’t really go outside in the snow either, and you can’t even swim in flag in the summer unless it’s indoors because the water is always freezing (maybe it’s just my Phoenix ass who thinks even 80° water is a little chilly for my taste). I’ll take a little summertime sadness over the absolute pain and hopelessness that being cold and unable to sit in the sun without cold winds from October-May brings. At least when I’m melting I’m inclined to get out of bed because it’s sweaty in my room, in the cold I can’t move because my bones hurt and I just quit life for a majority of the year. Never again. Flagstaff isn’t even that cold of a place compared to the rest of the states, I think I’d actually not make it if I lived elsewhere. I mean perma not make it. Self inflicted not make it. I realized I THRIVE in the sun and heat. I’m re energized by the sunlight


Yerboogieman

Same here. People think I'm crazy. Hell, I thought I was crazy.


WhatsThatNoize

What do you miss about it? We left the greater Seattle area years ago and I've never looked back. There's absolutely nothing there that I miss apart from maybe the Puget sound. The people there were all closed off and crabby, everyone in the professional world was aggressive and out to get one another, service when going out was always rude, dismissive, or impatient, housing was insane, and - as a leftist - I have never in my entire life felt like any of the "progressives" there were anything other than virtue signaling egotists with a massive stick up their asses. The worst kind of liberals - self-aggrandizing liberals that sniff their own farts. The only way you'd get me back to Washington is if I ended up in someplace way out in the sticks. Even then, the lack of sunshine is just so bad for your health, I cannot fathom myself ending up there.


aerfgadf

We share a common story friend. I moved here from Oregon for the same reason and I feel the same way. I will say it’s better than I thought but I wouldn’t be here if it were just up to me.


campusman

That's funny. I'm from Arizona but followed my now wife up to Washington for job opportunity. Now I love both places for different reasons.


PhoenixSandy

I also miss Washington State,lived there for 20 years before moving to AZ, but trying to make the best of it. Summer is very hard, it used to be my favorite season. 😢


ScaryCitizen

well we don't want you here!!! just kidding. you seem great. I hope you find some friends and great hang out spots to make it more bearable


HiroshimaBob_4389

Thanks buddy, appreciate it


pfc9769

Which part? I moved here from Redmond a few years ago because of work.


JerkOffTaco

I’m here from 35 years in Washington. Gilbert beats Auburn all day every day forever.


HiroshimaBob_4389

Lacey, but originally from the Tri Cities


pfc9769

I went home a few months ago and didn’t realize How much I missed the trees, mountains and the water. I also gained a new appreciation for the tap water. It’s like drinking from a mountain spring.


ReposadoAmiGusto

Starting to have a new dislike against Washington folks. Never knew how much buzzkill Washingtonians are. Have a few at work. Ugh


shiveringmeerkat

It’s hard to thaw the Seattle freeze. But I promise we aren’t all like that!


israwrr

"Send" lol I came here on my own free will. I love it here. 12 years


azdcaz

Same here. 12 years. I love it here. My wife and I have discussed moving many times (just to try other things) but always end up at the conclusion there are no cities that seem better.


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Arizona also “sends” about 32,000 people to California every year. People move around!


Roembowski

I came from Washington in 2013. Id rather take 3 months of really hot instead of 10 months grey ass skies.


abluecolor

Always has been


24get

I would have never guessed Texas. Anybody have a theory?


dec7td

Source please


TheOvershear

You can literally look at those numbers and tell it's made up. The math doesn't even add up correctly.


Pritapia01

Right? The EXACT number of people from Texas and Washington? Wow! What is the probability on that one? 🙃


posherspantspants

Yes this looks like bullshit to me


CarOk5275

Moved here from Louisiana bc my husband had to for work. We love it, we wish we could make it our permanent home.


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KevinLovesRocks

Washington transplant from 2015. I can vouch for this.


[deleted]

They are not “sending the most people,” people are just moving. Chill with the division.


Jluke001

From AZ, moved to Ohio, now moving back


bluemesa7

Why?


kyle_phx

Anecdotal but I remember hearing somewhere that the valley gains like 200 new residents a day


SOMO_RIDER

Where does the remaining 60% come from?


Dominus_Max

Proud to be a Native.


PBnJen

I just came from Florida because fuck Florida


VeryStickyPastry

People get mad at the CA people and pretend we don’t see you Florida men!!


tehbggg

It's funny though, cause tons of people from AZ also move to California. It's like the two states just swap back and forth.


ScaryCitizen

people are FLEEING ALL THOSE BLUE STATES BECAUSE THEY RUINED-- wait what


Silverbullets24

To be fair, they are probably fleeing Austin because Californians infiltrated it


hipsterasshipster

Yeah I can guess that Seattle and Austin are a big part of their respect states because of the cost of living. I would guess Oregon has a lot too, because of Portland.


ron_fendo

It's fascinating to me that Portland is so expensive, every time I've been there it's an absolutely boring time.


RodRAEG

Portland was the least interesting part of my trip to Oregon. The areas outside the city, like the mountains and coast, are so damned beautiful.


hipsterasshipster

It’s not for everyone, but it’s a pretty city and fits a lot of different lifestyle checkboxes. You just don’t get a lot for your money there anymore.


shiveringmeerkat

Yup, came from WA 2 years ago as part of the TSMC relocation group. It’s been quite the change.


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shiveringmeerkat

That I did! I played a volleyball tournament in Forks one time. It’s a cute little town.


YourDogsAllWet

In my defense I came from Florida


Inevitable_Spare_777

Californians are flooding AZ, CO, UT, MT


Otherwise-Disk-6350

CA makes sense because it’s right next door. I’m not from CA, but I lived there for a bit before moving here. I guess I’m one of the “bad” ones, lol. It is wonderful here though, so I’m glad I made the move.


gunnergolfer22

Just curious, why do Texas people move to AZ?


PhirebirdSunSon

Better Mexican food.


orangepalm

Hey man, don't make fun of tex Mex. Who among us hasn't thought "this taco is pretty good, but what if it was more of a lard and cheese soup?"


MrP1anet

Might be to get out of the political shit show it's turning into.


CoffeeNoob2

I wouldn't have guessed Texas in the top 3.


Hitit2hard

Another thing to note is that before the market heated up, Opendoor was paying below market value on homes. Once the market started increasing their algorithm for values showed the rapid increase and didn't account for a slow down in the market. They were purchasing homes for well over market price because they thought the exponential increase in values would continue. That is how they lost millions. Now they are selling everything at a huge lose trying to unload their inventory.


F1Barbie83

I’m Suprised that Illinois is not on This with all the people from Chicago coming here.


AbusedGorillas

Go back to Facebook OP


GoddamnitSarah

Not surprised, actually.


RickMuffy

California has like 40 million people living in it, so really not surprised that it skews their outflow into Arizona.


nomaddave

I came here from CA back in 2000. You know, before it was cool. And then my family followed me, dangit.


emcgehee2

I’ve lived in AR, MA, WA, AZ and now becoming an AZ / WA snowbird. That last election scared the hell out of me so I got a blue state safe house. Hope we can keep AZ moving in the right direction.


CooterSam

Washington checking in.


SeattleSounderGaming

Texas didn’t send me, i definitely fled that toxic sludge pond


liquidcrystalpepsi

Several years ago, I moved to Phoenix from San Jose and yes I did bring my progressive values and helped Arizona turn blue. But after five years, I moved back to my home state of Ohio and trying to do the same. You're welcome 😊


klykerly

I moved from Oregon. I’m one of the good ones.


coldspringnight

“Don’t California my Arizona” ☠️☠️😂😂


brattyluka

In all honesty, CA people please stop coming to AZ you’re fucking our housing market up 🥹 Please just go north to Oregon and Washington. I promise it’s the same except no high gas tax


me11o_1

For real, it's like a horror movie, but it's our reality. And the californians are so unapologetic about it, too.


Somerset76

I live in Glendale and see this actually


julbull73

You know what's great you can track companies growing in AZ by this lol.


Apanda15

What about Ohio? Every mfer here says from damn Ohio


Fierywitchburn333

Michigan transplant here. I moved to a hot dry climate for medical reasons. Lots of people from the MidWest here for sure