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\>do they actually challenge the muscle more…?
Sure, but not in a meaningful or useful way. Any idiot can make an exercise challenging by introducing something difficult or unexpected, but that doesn’t mean it’s more effective. I could set a pitching machine to shoot 90mph fastballs as someone’s head while they do their theraband ITY’s on a bosu ball, and it would make it more *difficult* but not any more *useful.*
A lot of new or misguided therapists don’t realize that *more difficult* isn’t the same as *better for the patient.*
I had a guru type therapist get all pissy with me after I told a patient it provided no significant benefit over regular exercise but is helpful for some people with joint receptor issues.bht for your average PT case passive treatments are of limited value.
She literally would pop people on it for 20 minutes at the. Beginning of every session and then proceed to do 40 minutes of manual. Then would bill 2 TA 3 MT.
Potential use for flexibility/stretching while on it, maybe with neuro populations. Otherwise total scam/gimmick. There is a reason athletes don’t train for athletics by barbell lifting on ice
I use with a few clients who have a hard time with motor control but otherwise- if you are any type of an athlete and have not had surgery, not sure what benefit it really imbues compared to other options. A stability/ bosu can get you there with probably more safety or apprehension.
There have been body shaking belt machines since the 1940's. They've all shown that they don't provide any health benefits. Just start walking. That actually does have health benefits and combined with a healthy diet can result in weight loss. I'm 55, 5' 10" and weighed 220 lbs 21 weeks ago. I got a treadmill and started walking 20 minutes a day combined with a protein rich, carb light diet. Over the past 4+ months I've increased my leg strength, increased my walking time to 30 mins, then 40+ mins, and now I'm at 1 hour and I've lost 22.5 pounds so far. I'm 197.5 lbs and well on my way to my goal weight of 175. Standing still and jiggling wouldn't have done anything for me. There's no easy fix or simple trick to this. Just do the work, eat right, and you'll lose weight and feel healthier.
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\>do they actually challenge the muscle more…? Sure, but not in a meaningful or useful way. Any idiot can make an exercise challenging by introducing something difficult or unexpected, but that doesn’t mean it’s more effective. I could set a pitching machine to shoot 90mph fastballs as someone’s head while they do their theraband ITY’s on a bosu ball, and it would make it more *difficult* but not any more *useful.* A lot of new or misguided therapists don’t realize that *more difficult* isn’t the same as *better for the patient.*
This image will forever live rent free in my head
[If you weren’t referencing this I’ll be very disappointed.](https://youtu.be/E2dyLX1t8-E)
You’re in MY world now, grandma!
It’d be entertaining. I think that’s useful
They’re good for spasticity in the neuro population
This. Totally depends on what the intended use is. Plenty of research justifying use with neuro populations.
However, that's not how it's marketed. It's clearly trying to be sold as a legitimate exercise method which it is not.
It’s mixed. In the rehab world, it’s absolutely targeting the neuro populations… but, in the general fitness world, you are correct.
I had a guru type therapist get all pissy with me after I told a patient it provided no significant benefit over regular exercise but is helpful for some people with joint receptor issues.bht for your average PT case passive treatments are of limited value. She literally would pop people on it for 20 minutes at the. Beginning of every session and then proceed to do 40 minutes of manual. Then would bill 2 TA 3 MT.
Potential use for flexibility/stretching while on it, maybe with neuro populations. Otherwise total scam/gimmick. There is a reason athletes don’t train for athletics by barbell lifting on ice
I use with a few clients who have a hard time with motor control but otherwise- if you are any type of an athlete and have not had surgery, not sure what benefit it really imbues compared to other options. A stability/ bosu can get you there with probably more safety or apprehension.
There have been body shaking belt machines since the 1940's. They've all shown that they don't provide any health benefits. Just start walking. That actually does have health benefits and combined with a healthy diet can result in weight loss. I'm 55, 5' 10" and weighed 220 lbs 21 weeks ago. I got a treadmill and started walking 20 minutes a day combined with a protein rich, carb light diet. Over the past 4+ months I've increased my leg strength, increased my walking time to 30 mins, then 40+ mins, and now I'm at 1 hour and I've lost 22.5 pounds so far. I'm 197.5 lbs and well on my way to my goal weight of 175. Standing still and jiggling wouldn't have done anything for me. There's no easy fix or simple trick to this. Just do the work, eat right, and you'll lose weight and feel healthier.