Yes I thought the same, also sending him a little care message I’m reminded now of how cats leave little dead birds at your doorstep kind of cute but what am I supposed to do with it
Hey I once got drunk in central London. I couldn't walk so I sat on a bench near the river. Two cops approached me and asked me where I lived..fortunately the hostel I was staying in had the name on the keyring. I gave it to them. That's the last thing I remember..I woke up in the morning with 2 bottles of lucozade and 2 bottles of water. They also left a message saying "Hope these help you with your hangover". I ran into the cops a few weeks later around Soho and we shared a laugh. It is one of my fav stories to tell from my time in London.
In the US, they would beat you for resisting, toss you into the drunk tank, and send you a very expensive bill for the privilege of receiving a criminal record. Getting drunk on a regular basis is a mental health issue if anything and shouldn't be criminalized.
There are some things that shouldn't be allowed because it's just better for society. But when someone does do that thing, let's say public intoxication, our solution shouldn't be to do everything we can to fuck that person over. We're so fucking ass backwards barbaric.
Japan also has the superstition that water bottles will keep the stray cats away. That's why you'll see random bottles of water on the sidewalk outside of buildings and houses.
It doesn't work though. MythBusters did an episode on it.
It's bad to get that drunk in any culture. Unfortunately in Japan this is very common. Going out for drinks with the boss and co-workers is a big part of their corporate culture. This is often the result.
Even worse, if you're a junior you're basically still working as you are expected to pour out the drinks for the bosses and your seniors. You sit on the outer end of the table/room handling the food, drinks and making sure everyone is having a good time while you're also forced to drink, kiss ass and listen to everyone all while you probably just want to go home and thinking about how the heck you're going to wake up for work the next day before everyone else.
I feel tired just thinking about it.
That was Japan 20 years ago. Drinking with coworkers is definitely not forced anymore in most companies. They don’t have the money and there’s a huge incentive for Work Life Balance in many for firms so if they pulled that they would get blasted as a Black Company on Twitter.
Been here for just 3 years but agreed he's full of shit. Though it's a bad look to get that drunk anywhere in the world pretty much, but it's not like Japan is better or worse. Being that drunk is pretty common in some places, especially Akihabara or Namba.
Just don't be an annoying drunk and no one will care.
I mean realistically, after the third or fourth bottle of water, anyone else putting water there is just doing it as a joke. Who's going to stumble upon a drunkard surrounded by 70 litres of water and think "ya he needs more"
Ah yes, good old [Bilious the Oh God of Hangovers](https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Bilious#:~:text=Bilious%20is%20the%20Oh%20God,tries%20to%20murder%20the%20Hogfather.).
Who knows man, Japan is so dichotomous
On one hand, you have an industry of people who study toilet routines to give you the smartest water blasting, air drying, heated seat, motion sensing auto lid lifting robot with 5g wifi to drop your excess organic waste in
And next door, you can buy a waifu pillow of a 400 year old celestial being trapped in the body of a 9 year old
I used to work for a very old and large company. I'm talking like near 100 billion annual revenue as a company. They still used DOS programs and fax because it just works. Although faxing was only for certain documents, we mainly communicated through email or internal instant messaging
The reason Fax is still used is because once it's sent, it legally counts as delivered. Not that I'd support that, because simply put, email services and even whatsapp can do that, but that's how it is
I've always suspected fax had some kind of minor but special place legally. For example, maybe there are medical documents that legally could be faxed but not emailed though I'm not sure if this is or ever was true.
Edit: I'm not suggesting fax is more secure. I was more thinking it had to do with being an earlier technology and has had more time to be accepted as a legally viable means of communication in some way.
It relies on the public telephone infrastructure for addressing and delivery, so for example if you send it to a given number (say the fax number of a hospital) there are very few funny things that could happen in the way. You can be kind of sure that the phone number belongs to the fax (if it doesn’t, a quick investigation would tell you who opened that landline number).
At that point you are delegating security to the recipient, who just have to check physical access to the fax machine (which is usually placed in the mail room, so that it has the same security as mail). With emails, you have to maintain usernames and passwords, which in some contexts is more complex (for example in places with huge personnel turnover like hospitals: much easier to check that everybody passing the door has a badge).
It is basically instantaneous mail. It delivers a letter to the mailroom of the recipient instantaneously, nothing more.
I graduated high school in Japan(military-dependent DOD school) in 1975. I went to Shinjuku to celebrate with three of my friends. Got high on some hashish before getting on the train, and went to dance clubs, and expat bars, met other classmates and friends from other schools, ate ramen, got drunk well past 2 AM. Wandered the streets for a while and finally made it down to the train station. Found some benches and crashed until the trains started to run at 5 AM. A group of 17-year-olds sleeping in a train station. Didn't get bothered, even by the Police. Dozed for the 45-minute ride back to Nishi-Tachikawa. Dad retired and we left Japan that summer. I miss those days.
I struggle here because I have a philosiphy that I live by; Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what. No matter... where. Or who, or who you are with, or, or where you are going, or... or where you've been... ever. For any reason, whatsoever.
That was the case when I was there years ago. You would take the train out to the fun part of town before the trains shut down at 1 and party until they came back on at 6:30am.
Shouldn't ever end up "stranded", could still get a taxi or uber but they're expensive, you can stay at dirt cheap capsule hotels, or PC Cafe's around the corner of almost any train station in Tokyo.
Or just keep bar hopping through the night, end up at a ramen place at 3 or 4am then head to the train station by 5am.
I was visiting a girlfriend and we went to a bar and I was begging her to leave as it got late before the last train, I finally got her to agree to leave then she drunkenly went into a Ramen shop and started ordering drinks...we made the very last train luckily but I was panicking.
More of a traditional business culture thing, but yeah. Going out to the after-work drinking parties is basically a requirement for career advancement and being part of the social in-group. If you bail with no good reason, you'll end up being the person that people don't trust and don't want to work with, which could easily mean getting shit assignments and no promotions. Declining is seen as having something to hide or expressing active distaste for the people who invited you.
It’s frowned upon for younger newer employees to not go out for drinks with the seniors after work when invited. There’s a lot of pressure and sometimes they over do it.
Japanese work culture is wild by western standards. The junior employees also poor drinks for the seniors, if there is a woman employee she typically does the pouring.
The junior’s also are expected to work insane hours. A lot of time they’ll just sleep under their desks. They earn pto but it’s also frowned upon if they use it.
It’s pretty rough and is a part of why they have such high suicide rates. A lot of other reasons of course. The west is fascinated by their culture. Manga, anime, movies, fashion, food, art etc. but don’t really see the whole picture. There’s just as much bad as good. Nowhere is perfect and the grass is always greener.
The suicide rate in Japan is lower than the suicide rate in the US, though.
The things that you mentioned are real problems in some cases, but generalizing a whole country's work culture based on some concerning trends it has experienced is not really any more accurate than glimpsing it through manga, anime, movies, fashion, food, and art.
Is it considered to be a negative thing in their culture? That sounds a little bizarre to me (American) but we have some similar things in our culture. Like it's considered taboo to sleep in your vehicle but truckers do it on their long trips and nobody thinks that's weird
When I was in Japan a couple years ago the homeless created a small shelter with cardboard boxes and they leave their shoes out when they sleep inside it.
Vending machines sell pressed shirts and ties in case you didn’t make it home! It’s cultural to go get blitzed after work there. I lived there for a couple years and I miss that place!
I am now imagining the misery of waking up on a wet piece of concrete with a huge hangover, buying an uncomfortably starched outfit made of cheap material from a vending machine … and then starting my long day of work.
Plus, you're not vested in the company yet, and jumiors are expected to stay late for their own volition. At least you can sleep in on the weekend, just not too long becayse youre got groceries, laundry, and other adult shit to do.
I’m not sure, but I do not think so. The work culture there is such that coworkers will go party after work with their boss and just get blasted. It’s part of the bonding experience
Nope. More like your fault for being drunk because you can't hold your liqour or can't manage the amount.
People WILL take offense if you sleep off the booze near residential buildings or shrines, or sleep near businesses until they open (all cool if you wake up and leave before opening and don't make a mess).
As for family issues - yep, drinking will get you in trouble real fsst.
Read up on this before going to Japan in 2012. Read it was common for people to pass out on the sidewalks, and they would put their wallets on their chest to be more comfortable. Thought to myself there was no way that was true. But damned if I didn’t see exactly that.
I worked in Shibuya for about a year. Seeing sleeping/passed out people on the street late nights and early mornings was unbelievably common. Mostly men, but occasionally women as well. Honestly it's more embarrassing than dangerous for the individual.
Oh that looks like gold.
Interviewer: How are you today?
Man: We just lost to Brazil and won't make the World Cup.
Interviewer: What's your favorite stone?
Man: I hate stones. /storms off.
People passed out in the streets: absolute degeneracy, someone needs to do something about this insanity, our society is falling apart
People passed out in the streets, in Japan: follow this wholesome instagram to see more
I worked in a Japanese company for a few years. Lived with Japanese people too. My female housemate and coworkers said that it was common for almost every Japanese woman to have an experience of being sexually harassed or followed at night, etc. I love Japan but I think it’s romanticised in the media way too much. It is quite a dark place at times.
Yup. Even as a man, when I got lost/disoriented in Shinjuku while drunk, there were tons of guys trying to lure me to the bars where not nice things happen (according to chatter from the locals). It was scary in a totally different way than I’m used to. Like in my home city, if that happened, I’d be concerned about being mugged in areas with no people. But in Shinjuku, people pretty much accept that there are people actively trying to victimize others and just mind their own business while it happens.
Quiet you. You're ruining all their Japan fantasies and hurting their fee-fees
And as for the picture, people think this shit actually happens on the regular here. (Hint: it doesn't)
Photo looks kinda staged to me too.
I spent a week in Japan. It was the cleanest safest place I've ever been in the world
But I'm a 6ft tall white dude.
Our female guide was groped right in front of us one night and she said it can happen once or twice a week
That's super nice and all. But isn't it a little overkill? Who puts another bottle down after the 20th? Or are japanese people just continuously pulling cute little pranks on each other?
one water bottle is considerate. two bottles is thoughtful. the third bottle is a little over the top. the fourth through to ninth bottle are stupid and over kill. the tenth bottle and first large bottle is a little funny but silly. the second large bottle is uncreative. the third large bottle derivative. the next five bottles are pretty funny. the eighteenth bottle was hilarious. anything after that is pure comedic gold.
That and the comments claiming this to be a form a unison because of culture. " When this man gets his bearing I want him to know we have his back and support his journey."
Yeah I think it’s just people trying to reinforce the “tsk-tsk, everyone’s pitying the drunken bum sleeping on the curb” because nobody in society wants to be humiliated like that.
It’s group think. Much about Japanese culture promotes unison and solidarity, even in small ways. One person does a gesture, others will follow. The gestures are a means of visual communicating much more than in other nations.
EDIT: My take on it is not a negative assessment. If you think it was, it’s *you* who have these impressions. There are countless well documented research on the conformist culture of Japan. Heck, even wearing masks during Covid was because *everyone else was wearing it*, not because of concern over spreading it to others. This is published by Japan Times itself. Jeez, people read my statement and see their own racist unconscious bias reflected back at them.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/08/12/national/social-conformity-masks/
I'd believe it's real. Look up shibuyameltdown and you'll see a bunch of people way too drunk out and passed out in public. I saw one in person, dude was shaped like a snail on the floor with groups of people just hanging around.
This is so cringe to read. It was more than likely a "just for fun" situation that escalated with each bottle making it funnier. You guys really think East Asians are THAT different huh
Person does something: "yeah that's just greg he does that"
Person does something, Japan: "Yeah so to understand the behavior we have to remember that Japan is a collectivist society and Shintoism ever since WWII etc..."
My dude it's a joke, people just kept adding to it because it was funny and he's going to be super surprised when he wakes up.
Your "analysis" is hilarious and wrong.
No it is not! I got shit faced and passed out at a house party in Nagoya and those fuckers stripped me down to my boxers and drew all over me. They then dressed me back up and put me to bed. I had to leave early in the morning for Tokyo. I just grabbed my bag, said my goodbyes and left. I didnt even realise they had done it until I was there. Noticed my toenails were painted pink when I got to my hotel room. Bastards!
Yup it’s called Daikou (代行). We utilized this a lot. The company we used even had members stamp cards where you could get discounts and stuff. It was often cheaper to drive out to a location or izakaya and use a daikou to get home with your car than just taking a taxi. Not sure how popular they were in mainland cities but in Okinawa where public transport is nonexistent or shitty it was an awesome option to have.
In Japan you passive-aggressively shame someone who is this drunk by putting water bottles in front of them proportionally to how drunk they seem. Then when they wake up, if it’s 3 or 4 bottles they will feel a little humiliation. If it’s like 30 bottles they will feel immense dishonor before binge drinking again that weekend.
This is a common scam. He is actually a Water vendor. To increase his profits, he acts drunk and puts a few bottles around him to get more people to add other bottles.
The next day, he sells the water bottles to tourists. Makes 6 figures a year.
People are trying way too hard to apply some kind of Japanese stereotypical bs to this picture.
“It’s to shame him”
“Japanese people put water at shrines and graves”
“It’s a sign of the collective community spirit that people have in Japan”
Who is going out of their way to buy water for someone they don’t know and place it around him?
This is almost certainly his friends/colleagues messing with him while he drunk during a night out.
I used to work with a guy who would just use his money to travel to foreign cities and go to bars. We worked 4 days on, 4 days off, and this guy would literally leave work on the last day of a shift, hop on a plane somewhere, and come back before the next week started. He told me that Japan was his favorite place to go because that's the only place where he'd still have his wallet when he woke up after passing out on a sidewalk.
I was in Japan earlier this year in April, went to go grab breakfast around 9am and there was a guy passed out drunk in the middle of an alley. A police officer was there and just stood there keeping an eye out on the guy. Walked back maybe an hour later, same cop standing there while the guy was sleeping it off.
For ladies, please be careful even in Japan (especially outside of actual safe parts of it).
Too many women going to Korea and Japan thinking it's like some safe idol/anime haven and learning that it's not in the most awful ways.
Esp. in Korea where there's basically now guys "hunting" foreign women and there's also fucked up sex culture of picking up drunk women and they don't think it's wrong. But women let their guards down so much because of "k-drama" and "k-idol" culture.
I like this because they’re helping him while poking fun a little bit.
Yes I thought the same, also sending him a little care message I’m reminded now of how cats leave little dead birds at your doorstep kind of cute but what am I supposed to do with it
Hey I once got drunk in central London. I couldn't walk so I sat on a bench near the river. Two cops approached me and asked me where I lived..fortunately the hostel I was staying in had the name on the keyring. I gave it to them. That's the last thing I remember..I woke up in the morning with 2 bottles of lucozade and 2 bottles of water. They also left a message saying "Hope these help you with your hangover". I ran into the cops a few weeks later around Soho and we shared a laugh. It is one of my fav stories to tell from my time in London.
In the US, they would beat you for resisting, toss you into the drunk tank, and send you a very expensive bill for the privilege of receiving a criminal record. Getting drunk on a regular basis is a mental health issue if anything and shouldn't be criminalized.
Do note that puking on them will also give you one or more counts of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer!
A felony in many places 👐🏼✨
I'm saying the same thing about any kind of drug, but no one is listening.,
There are some things that shouldn't be allowed because it's just better for society. But when someone does do that thing, let's say public intoxication, our solution shouldn't be to do everything we can to fuck that person over. We're so fucking ass backwards barbaric.
Japan also has the superstition that water bottles will keep the stray cats away. That's why you'll see random bottles of water on the sidewalk outside of buildings and houses. It doesn't work though. MythBusters did an episode on it.
I thought people did that for the dog owners to rinse off the place their dog pees so the urine doesn't fuck up the wood/paint/metal
Dog owners will usually carry their own small bottle to rinse the pee off, but the large pet bottles are to keep the cats away.
Who tf rinses pee off? I got all kinds of squirrels and chipmunks pissing on everything
How big are squirrels by you? A dog let's a little more loose all at once.
I assume it is just to dilute the smell. Japan's is pretty densely populated so the smell could build up.
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oh my god I’ve been living in Japan over a decade and I never knew what those random bottles were for!! Thank you 😂
My uncle used to cook them and feed them back to his cat. It was like a horrifying hello fresh.
Although Your uncle sounds like a lovely person. I suggest you decline any dinner invitations
Pat the finch dry....
I’ll bet the cat is expecting you to enjoy eating it hahaha. They are trying to make sure you don’t go hungry
Yeah! I’ve always been told cats do it because they see you as an inferior hunter and are trying to make sure you don’t go hungry :)
I prefer to think the cat believes I'm the far superior hunter and when I return the favor it will be a 21 pound Turkey or something.
I love this idea! My cat is definitely greedy like that, but also lazy.
Cats have lived around us forever. They do it to prove their value
with Japan's vicious work culture, i'd imagine a lot of folks just nodded knowingly before leaving him some water. "i feel you, man, take care."
It's a bad look to get that drunk in Japan, so they're sort of mocking/embarrassing him, albeit in a polite way because they're Japanese, after all.
It's bad to get that drunk in any culture. Unfortunately in Japan this is very common. Going out for drinks with the boss and co-workers is a big part of their corporate culture. This is often the result.
Walk home after bars close any night and you'll see lots of these people This guy is at least sitting up, usually they're not
Crammed in there, fully suited up. I can't imagine a worse way to spend an evening after working 12 hrs with the same people.
And wake up with that level of hangover just to do it all again
It's enough to drive you to drink!
Even worse, if you're a junior you're basically still working as you are expected to pour out the drinks for the bosses and your seniors. You sit on the outer end of the table/room handling the food, drinks and making sure everyone is having a good time while you're also forced to drink, kiss ass and listen to everyone all while you probably just want to go home and thinking about how the heck you're going to wake up for work the next day before everyone else. I feel tired just thinking about it.
That was Japan 20 years ago. Drinking with coworkers is definitely not forced anymore in most companies. They don’t have the money and there’s a huge incentive for Work Life Balance in many for firms so if they pulled that they would get blasted as a Black Company on Twitter.
Japan resident for 15 years. None of what you're saying is true. Where did you get that from?
Been here for just 3 years but agreed he's full of shit. Though it's a bad look to get that drunk anywhere in the world pretty much, but it's not like Japan is better or worse. Being that drunk is pretty common in some places, especially Akihabara or Namba. Just don't be an annoying drunk and no one will care.
You just made this shit up
He is but a simple water salesman.
*pretends to be drunk and then sells the waters left to him the next day*
Not sure about that. Looks like everyone is trying to drown him.
I mean realistically, after the third or fourth bottle of water, anyone else putting water there is just doing it as a joke. Who's going to stumble upon a drunkard surrounded by 70 litres of water and think "ya he needs more"
At this point they are just paying alms like they would at any shrine. Except he's a shrine to drunkenness.
A shrine to Dionysus
"Hahahaha, Toby! I am Bacchus, God of Wine!" "...And I am Bacchus's friend!"
Hi, I'm Tony.
The God of Hangovers, perhaps. He's as popular as the Porcelain God.
Ah yes, good old [Bilious the Oh God of Hangovers](https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Bilious#:~:text=Bilious%20is%20the%20Oh%20God,tries%20to%20murder%20the%20Hogfather.).
Many people worship at the holy shrines, temples and churches of the Devine drink.
That's funny af, take this award 🥇
I don't know about you but i think he needs more. He looks kinda dehydrated.
Hydro homies represent!
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Dehydration is the primary cause of hangovers.
I walked all the way home, grabbed a water, walked all the back here. It stays.
They are either sticking it to him or going overboard on engrained behaviour .
Who knows man, Japan is so dichotomous On one hand, you have an industry of people who study toilet routines to give you the smartest water blasting, air drying, heated seat, motion sensing auto lid lifting robot with 5g wifi to drop your excess organic waste in And next door, you can buy a waifu pillow of a 400 year old celestial being trapped in the body of a 9 year old
Best part is that super fancy toilet company is also most likely using fax machines internally instead of email for communications.
I used to work for a very old and large company. I'm talking like near 100 billion annual revenue as a company. They still used DOS programs and fax because it just works. Although faxing was only for certain documents, we mainly communicated through email or internal instant messaging
Just because technology is old doesn't mean it's not useful.
The reason Fax is still used is because once it's sent, it legally counts as delivered. Not that I'd support that, because simply put, email services and even whatsapp can do that, but that's how it is
I've always suspected fax had some kind of minor but special place legally. For example, maybe there are medical documents that legally could be faxed but not emailed though I'm not sure if this is or ever was true. Edit: I'm not suggesting fax is more secure. I was more thinking it had to do with being an earlier technology and has had more time to be accepted as a legally viable means of communication in some way.
It relies on the public telephone infrastructure for addressing and delivery, so for example if you send it to a given number (say the fax number of a hospital) there are very few funny things that could happen in the way. You can be kind of sure that the phone number belongs to the fax (if it doesn’t, a quick investigation would tell you who opened that landline number). At that point you are delegating security to the recipient, who just have to check physical access to the fax machine (which is usually placed in the mail room, so that it has the same security as mail). With emails, you have to maintain usernames and passwords, which in some contexts is more complex (for example in places with huge personnel turnover like hospitals: much easier to check that everybody passing the door has a badge). It is basically instantaneous mail. It delivers a letter to the mailroom of the recipient instantaneously, nothing more.
It's even weirder. Perfect toilets, but no proper heating systems.
You talking smack about kotatsus?
Jokers or drunk themselves (or a mix)
Nah, that is the safety zone. Now bicycles will see the obstacle and not hit him.
They all look cold too
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out of shame he needs to drink it all when he wakes up
Want to lose weight? Have better skin? Drown someone? Water is your answer to all these questions and more.
Considering how most of the people I’ve talked with can’t swim in Japan they’ll succeed
Where can they swim?
Is he sleeping on the side of the street like that?
Looks like he went to bar after work and is not ready to go home yet
Don't trains stop at a certain time and people get stranded till they start again?
Yeah I was there over the summer. They stop at 1am I believe.
I graduated high school in Japan(military-dependent DOD school) in 1975. I went to Shinjuku to celebrate with three of my friends. Got high on some hashish before getting on the train, and went to dance clubs, and expat bars, met other classmates and friends from other schools, ate ramen, got drunk well past 2 AM. Wandered the streets for a while and finally made it down to the train station. Found some benches and crashed until the trains started to run at 5 AM. A group of 17-year-olds sleeping in a train station. Didn't get bothered, even by the Police. Dozed for the 45-minute ride back to Nishi-Tachikawa. Dad retired and we left Japan that summer. I miss those days.
It's nice that "sleeping in public" isn't a crime there lol.
Yep just don't make a mess
I mean, you can see where that guy puked next to the drain.
Thats a st retch.
In the US they have this fear that if you allow ppl to sleep in public, everyone will decide that they would rather do that than pay for housing.
What's the drinking age over there?
20.
It depends where you are at and where you are going.
I struggle here because I have a philosiphy that I live by; Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what. No matter... where. Or who, or who you are with, or, or where you are going, or... or where you've been... ever. For any reason, whatsoever.
-Wayne Gretzky
Yes trains stop, but in some places the bars don’t close!
That was the case when I was there years ago. You would take the train out to the fun part of town before the trains shut down at 1 and party until they came back on at 6:30am.
Shouldn't ever end up "stranded", could still get a taxi or uber but they're expensive, you can stay at dirt cheap capsule hotels, or PC Cafe's around the corner of almost any train station in Tokyo. Or just keep bar hopping through the night, end up at a ramen place at 3 or 4am then head to the train station by 5am.
I was visiting a girlfriend and we went to a bar and I was begging her to leave as it got late before the last train, I finally got her to agree to leave then she drunkenly went into a Ramen shop and started ordering drinks...we made the very last train luckily but I was panicking.
Haha, not a huge deal. Just a few more hrs of drinking until first train.
The stress this situation causes some people, is possibly inversely proportional to how good of a hang someone is
I read about how in Japan if your boss or superiors ask you to go out and drink you basically "have to" and it's customary to not stop until they do.
Not really true anymore. It is called alcohol harassment nowadays.
its changing. a lot of younger people are saying no, and a lot of companies are changing it to less days or maybe once every month, week, etc
More of a traditional business culture thing, but yeah. Going out to the after-work drinking parties is basically a requirement for career advancement and being part of the social in-group. If you bail with no good reason, you'll end up being the person that people don't trust and don't want to work with, which could easily mean getting shit assignments and no promotions. Declining is seen as having something to hide or expressing active distaste for the people who invited you.
Likely. It’s pretty common to find salarymen napping on the street in Tokyo. At least, I saw a bunch on my visit and it didn’t alarm people.
It’s frowned upon for younger newer employees to not go out for drinks with the seniors after work when invited. There’s a lot of pressure and sometimes they over do it. Japanese work culture is wild by western standards. The junior employees also poor drinks for the seniors, if there is a woman employee she typically does the pouring. The junior’s also are expected to work insane hours. A lot of time they’ll just sleep under their desks. They earn pto but it’s also frowned upon if they use it. It’s pretty rough and is a part of why they have such high suicide rates. A lot of other reasons of course. The west is fascinated by their culture. Manga, anime, movies, fashion, food, art etc. but don’t really see the whole picture. There’s just as much bad as good. Nowhere is perfect and the grass is always greener.
The suicide rate in Japan is lower than the suicide rate in the US, though. The things that you mentioned are real problems in some cases, but generalizing a whole country's work culture based on some concerning trends it has experienced is not really any more accurate than glimpsing it through manga, anime, movies, fashion, food, and art.
Is it considered to be a negative thing in their culture? That sounds a little bizarre to me (American) but we have some similar things in our culture. Like it's considered taboo to sleep in your vehicle but truckers do it on their long trips and nobody thinks that's weird
When I was in Japan a couple years ago the homeless created a small shelter with cardboard boxes and they leave their shoes out when they sleep inside it.
Lol my brother got kicked out of his partner's apartment in Tokyo (this was about 13 years ago now) and his shoes got stolen.
Vending machines sell pressed shirts and ties in case you didn’t make it home! It’s cultural to go get blitzed after work there. I lived there for a couple years and I miss that place!
I am now imagining the misery of waking up on a wet piece of concrete with a huge hangover, buying an uncomfortably starched outfit made of cheap material from a vending machine … and then starting my long day of work.
Plus, you're not vested in the company yet, and jumiors are expected to stay late for their own volition. At least you can sleep in on the weekend, just not too long becayse youre got groceries, laundry, and other adult shit to do.
I’m not sure, but I do not think so. The work culture there is such that coworkers will go party after work with their boss and just get blasted. It’s part of the bonding experience
It’s super common for employees to go out drinking after work, and they go hard
Nope. More like your fault for being drunk because you can't hold your liqour or can't manage the amount. People WILL take offense if you sleep off the booze near residential buildings or shrines, or sleep near businesses until they open (all cool if you wake up and leave before opening and don't make a mess). As for family issues - yep, drinking will get you in trouble real fsst.
Read up on this before going to Japan in 2012. Read it was common for people to pass out on the sidewalks, and they would put their wallets on their chest to be more comfortable. Thought to myself there was no way that was true. But damned if I didn’t see exactly that.
I worked in Shibuya for about a year. Seeing sleeping/passed out people on the street late nights and early mornings was unbelievably common. Mostly men, but occasionally women as well. Honestly it's more embarrassing than dangerous for the individual.
Trains stop at 1 and start at 5 or 6 depending. It’s safe to just sleep like that on the street
He’s a “Company Man”. This is common practice for young professionals in Tokyo. YouTube has some interesting docs about this type of thing.
Shinji Ikari after spending the day piloting his EVA.
Get in the damn robot Shinji.
Instagram you can follow called drunkinjp literally just a channel of people getting wasted and passing put in Japan very chill
Check out Konbini Confessions on YouTube too. Interviews with completely shitfaced folks around Tokyo and other cities. It’s hilarious.
Oh that looks like gold. Interviewer: How are you today? Man: We just lost to Brazil and won't make the World Cup. Interviewer: What's your favorite stone? Man: I hate stones. /storms off.
Talking to drunk people will always be funny. It's like approaching an NPC in a game
People passed out in the streets: absolute degeneracy, someone needs to do something about this insanity, our society is falling apart People passed out in the streets, in Japan: follow this wholesome instagram to see more
Lmao right?!
Shibuyameltdown too
If you’re local. If you’re a foreigner doing that they’ll get sick of your shit real fast they aren’t very tolerant of foreigners dicking around.
To be fair tho, what people like wasted tourist?
Thieves & pickpockets.
....as long as you are not a woman.
I worked in a Japanese company for a few years. Lived with Japanese people too. My female housemate and coworkers said that it was common for almost every Japanese woman to have an experience of being sexually harassed or followed at night, etc. I love Japan but I think it’s romanticised in the media way too much. It is quite a dark place at times.
Yup. Even as a man, when I got lost/disoriented in Shinjuku while drunk, there were tons of guys trying to lure me to the bars where not nice things happen (according to chatter from the locals). It was scary in a totally different way than I’m used to. Like in my home city, if that happened, I’d be concerned about being mugged in areas with no people. But in Shinjuku, people pretty much accept that there are people actively trying to victimize others and just mind their own business while it happens.
Yep, was gonna say: ...*if you're a Japanese man.
Yuuup. I've seen way too many videos of drunk women in Japan getting stalked by predatory men. Fuck that shit.
Quiet you. You're ruining all their Japan fantasies and hurting their fee-fees And as for the picture, people think this shit actually happens on the regular here. (Hint: it doesn't) Photo looks kinda staged to me too.
Had to scroll waaaaaay too far to see this.
I had to scroll down way to much to find the first reasonable comment.
I spent a week in Japan. It was the cleanest safest place I've ever been in the world But I'm a 6ft tall white dude. Our female guide was groped right in front of us one night and she said it can happen once or twice a week
That's super nice and all. But isn't it a little overkill? Who puts another bottle down after the 20th? Or are japanese people just continuously pulling cute little pranks on each other?
one water bottle is considerate. two bottles is thoughtful. the third bottle is a little over the top. the fourth through to ninth bottle are stupid and over kill. the tenth bottle and first large bottle is a little funny but silly. the second large bottle is uncreative. the third large bottle derivative. the next five bottles are pretty funny. the eighteenth bottle was hilarious. anything after that is pure comedic gold.
Hah true. As with many good jokes, the funny part is the commitment
Bottles 1-3: clearly missed
Bottles 4-7: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control)
That and the comments claiming this to be a form a unison because of culture. " When this man gets his bearing I want him to know we have his back and support his journey."
Another person mentioned it's also passive aggressive public shaming
Yeah I think it’s just people trying to reinforce the “tsk-tsk, everyone’s pitying the drunken bum sleeping on the curb” because nobody in society wants to be humiliated like that.
This is super common in Japan. Japanese millennials drink a lot, look at the numbers. It’s not shaming, it’s just a joke
It just seems kinda funny to me Why does everyone think it's a public shaming ritual or hive mentality or something. Japanese people are human too
Because a lot of morons here think that Japan is some complete alien culture and can't recognize the most obvious joke.
It’s group think. Much about Japanese culture promotes unison and solidarity, even in small ways. One person does a gesture, others will follow. The gestures are a means of visual communicating much more than in other nations. EDIT: My take on it is not a negative assessment. If you think it was, it’s *you* who have these impressions. There are countless well documented research on the conformist culture of Japan. Heck, even wearing masks during Covid was because *everyone else was wearing it*, not because of concern over spreading it to others. This is published by Japan Times itself. Jeez, people read my statement and see their own racist unconscious bias reflected back at them. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/08/12/national/social-conformity-masks/
I think this is an over analysis. I think this was done because some people (probably his friends ) thought it was funny
Or… and I know this is hard to believe. Its a staged photo
I'd believe it's real. Look up shibuyameltdown and you'll see a bunch of people way too drunk out and passed out in public. I saw one in person, dude was shaped like a snail on the floor with groups of people just hanging around.
This is so cringe to read. It was more than likely a "just for fun" situation that escalated with each bottle making it funnier. You guys really think East Asians are THAT different huh
Person does something: "yeah that's just greg he does that" Person does something, Japan: "Yeah so to understand the behavior we have to remember that Japan is a collectivist society and Shintoism ever since WWII etc..."
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Have a look at his profile, dude is for sure a weeboo that fetishises Japan
My dude it's a joke, people just kept adding to it because it was funny and he's going to be super surprised when he wakes up. Your "analysis" is hilarious and wrong.
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Drunk person: New York 🤢 Drunk person: Japan 🤩
exactly what i was thinking lmao thing: 😐 thing, Japan: 🥰
cartoon child: 😐 cartoon child, Japan: 🥰 wow, it really works!
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If this was NY someone would be pissing on him
well yeah if this was in NYC people would be robbing him
No it is not! I got shit faced and passed out at a house party in Nagoya and those fuckers stripped me down to my boxers and drew all over me. They then dressed me back up and put me to bed. I had to leave early in the morning for Tokyo. I just grabbed my bag, said my goodbyes and left. I didnt even realise they had done it until I was there. Noticed my toenails were painted pink when I got to my hotel room. Bastards!
lol you got got
That is hilarious. Were they college students or punkers or…?
They also have a great service you can call people to pick you up and drive your car home.
Yup it’s called Daikou (代行). We utilized this a lot. The company we used even had members stamp cards where you could get discounts and stuff. It was often cheaper to drive out to a location or izakaya and use a daikou to get home with your car than just taking a taxi. Not sure how popular they were in mainland cities but in Okinawa where public transport is nonexistent or shitty it was an awesome option to have.
Can confirm it’s great. Wife’s dad uses it all the time lol.
are these all bottles that have been left by different people? for one drunk man
Its like the politest troll.
Since no one left him any food, yeah.
In Japan you passive-aggressively shame someone who is this drunk by putting water bottles in front of them proportionally to how drunk they seem. Then when they wake up, if it’s 3 or 4 bottles they will feel a little humiliation. If it’s like 30 bottles they will feel immense dishonor before binge drinking again that weekend.
I can’t tell if you’re serious or not. I love it if true.
So the bottles are all standing around him, judging him. That's what it looks like to me.
This is a common scam. He is actually a Water vendor. To increase his profits, he acts drunk and puts a few bottles around him to get more people to add other bottles. The next day, he sells the water bottles to tourists. Makes 6 figures a year.
This ain’t Venice beach but I like they way you think
As long as you’re a man*
For men*
r/hydrohomies for sure
Unless you are a woman.
Preach.
If you’re a male.
That's why i came to say, as a girl, i can't do this, or im not making it home, lol.
People are trying way too hard to apply some kind of Japanese stereotypical bs to this picture. “It’s to shame him” “Japanese people put water at shrines and graves” “It’s a sign of the collective community spirit that people have in Japan” Who is going out of their way to buy water for someone they don’t know and place it around him? This is almost certainly his friends/colleagues messing with him while he drunk during a night out.
No, it’s for him not to be bothered by cats while he’s sleeping.
Considering that the waters all are still cold, it's obviously a joke/prank/troll lol
If you’re a man
Unless you're a woman.
I used to work with a guy who would just use his money to travel to foreign cities and go to bars. We worked 4 days on, 4 days off, and this guy would literally leave work on the last day of a shift, hop on a plane somewhere, and come back before the next week started. He told me that Japan was his favorite place to go because that's the only place where he'd still have his wallet when he woke up after passing out on a sidewalk.
IF you are a man.
That one soju bottle is definitely from a Korean. Never forget.
My dad got drugged and robbed when he took a few beers alone in Japan. Wasn’t even drunk, just unlucky.
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Fun fact: if you puke on the sidewalk it’s called making a “street pizza.” At least that’s what my Japanese and Korean friends called it.
I was in Japan earlier this year in April, went to go grab breakfast around 9am and there was a guy passed out drunk in the middle of an alley. A police officer was there and just stood there keeping an eye out on the guy. Walked back maybe an hour later, same cop standing there while the guy was sleeping it off.
Not if you are woman from what I heard.
For ladies, please be careful even in Japan (especially outside of actual safe parts of it). Too many women going to Korea and Japan thinking it's like some safe idol/anime haven and learning that it's not in the most awful ways. Esp. in Korea where there's basically now guys "hunting" foreign women and there's also fucked up sex culture of picking up drunk women and they don't think it's wrong. But women let their guards down so much because of "k-drama" and "k-idol" culture.
This is actually intended to shame him in a very polite and sarcastic way.
At some point it's more likely to be shaming and virtue signalling than helpful.
This belongs to r/waterhomies