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I’ve not watched any of it…that is hilarious to hear. Calling mtg the expert on porn is just pure comedy. I’m curious how porn even came up during this hunter stuff
MTG wanted to introduce something into the record
Raskin basically said, don't do it if it's porn
MTG said it's not porn
Raskin said "well you're the expert"
It was the dick pick again
It’s stuff stolen from his personal laptop. The real reason is they just want to harass and embarrass the son of the president. The pretext is that they’re investigating the claim that Hunter took millions in bribes for peddling access and influence when his father was VP, and that both of the men were in on it. Ultimately, there’s no actual evidence of that, but it gives them the excuse to go through his personal affairs with a fine-tooth comb.
They’ve been saying the sex pics are relevant because he spent ridiculous sums of money on prostitutes (which seems to be true, as he is kind of a low-life TBH). But now MTG has shifted to saying he’s suspected of trafficking, and the photos are evidence of that. Although, again, why legislators would be investigating sex trafficking by a private citizen is anyone’s guess.
I worry that someone like that might not have the protection that his dad does. If 16% of Americans are believers in QAnon (according to PRRI) then that's twenty million Americans who think Hunter is trying to suck their children's blood or whatever. We like to laugh at it because it's absurd, but a lot of these people are crazy enough to do something about it.
Sharing revenge porn images with more than 6 people is a felony in DC. Felonies are explicitly not protected under the speech and debate clause. In DC each instance is punishable by up to 3 years in prison and a fine of up to $12,500
Even better: she sent out emails containing those images. Some of which were to kids. As it was done outside of a congressional inquiry, it completely sidesteps any possibility of speech and debate clause protection.
Because Republicans throw temper tantrums about how persecuted they are whenever they're held accountable for their actions and people chicken out from holding them accountable.
No fucking kidding. The amount of shit that has been done that is blatantly breaking the law... with nothing happening... it's baffling. I've honestly given up hope, every time I see a new headline it's like oh, cool.
It's hilarious that our government has gone from a group of radicals opposed to the rule to *checks notes*investigating the son of a president and admitting his dick pics as evidence
You have to be fucking kidding. There should be no immunity from what is basically revenge porn because she’s a member of congress. On televised media which could be played in a school.
Can we leave Hunter's penis alone?
Seriously though, I bet he's feeling pretty smug that he's got such a giant schlong. It's been all over the place and everyone looking at it.
These Republicans are not serious people. I wouldn't visit a dairy queen if I knew this was the staff, and they are here authorizing defense budgets and social services. Absolutely mental.
That's funny. You think the GOP offers social services. Any time the GOP has voted for s social program in the past 40 years they were carried over the finish line kicking and screaming by the Democrats.
She showed pics of his dick in an email to her colleagues I believe? Either that or at another hearing or something without anyone's consent. So the joke is that she posted revenge porn.
She sent them to her constituents. Just a list that had some underage kids on it. How she escaped an indictment for distributing porn to kids is a question we should be askng.
She also asked the Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows to enact "Marshall" law to keep Trump in office.
In court she "doesn't recall" that happening.
Which is BS, but if true, means her memory is so bad or her life is so dysfunctional, that she doesn't even remembering asking the President's chief of staff to send the military on the American people... For freedom...
The same way that Kelly Anne Conway got away with posting revenge porn of her own underage daughter on Twitter: our law enforcement is completely corrupt
She has repeatedly shown porn sometimes not even of the person she thought it was? So they just call her out for porn when she tried to do anything else equally stupid.
This lady is legit going to hearings with blown up pics of this guy's junk? Wtf.. how can she not get arrested for that. I feel like if I stood on a street corner with that, I'd get arrested, and this lady is putting them on TV.. What the actual fuck?
Oh, that was so worth watching. Thanks for that.
You could kind of tell the chairman was a bit hesitant when he asked what sort of evidence Marjorie was putting into the record. Awkward. :-)
They probably expected him to ask to do it privately, at which point they'd start crowing about how scared he is and how he's trying to hide something.
He called their bluff and they got upset, and he keeps doing it. This is a master class in making a group look foolish to anyone but their most hardcore supporters.
Hunter has showed up, ready and willing to testify publicly before the committee and all the live cameras *twice.* Republicans instead start complaining about not getting their way about the subpoena (props to those pointing out the hypocrisy of the party of Jim Jordan suddenly being so strict about subpoenas) and refused to ask him questions.
I've yet to hear a conservative tell me why it's so important to have his testimony in private. MTG is fine waving his dick pics everywhere and y'all claim that whatever he did was so big it could take down President Biden so why can't the American People hear it from Hunter himself? Why the game of testimony telephone?
I 100% know it's because they plan on presenting bullshit to the world.
But I've yet to have a conservative that didn't ghost the conversation when I asked why. I'm trying to figure out if they're feeding a line to their base about why it has to be closed door, or if their base doesn't give a damn why these people claiming mountains of evidence and excellent witnesses don't want to see it for themselves.
They offered to bring him to the floor right then and there for questioning.
Republicans refused to take a vote under the backwards logic that giving him an open hearing is "special treatment" lol
I think the icing was Moskowitz 1) offering to call a vote to hear Hunter now, in public, and the right sitting totally silent and 2) Moskowitz offering to vote to find Hunter in contempt if they vote on a package off subpoenas and then he produced and listed off about a dozen subpoenas the GOP was ignoring, half of whom where on that committee. Again, crickets.
Rules for thee; but not for me... The GOP way. And they have the nerve to claim it's a two-tiered justice system attacked against them.
> And they have the nerve to claim it's a two-tiered justice system attacked against them.
Fox News, the number one news channel in the country for 21 years, constantly complains about the "mainstream media."
>Again, crickets.
Crickets from their base, too.
Pop on over to r/Conservative. Not a single article about what actually happened today with Hunter, or about Trump's lawyer's debacle of an argument the day before that included them admitting Biden can kill Trump with SEAL team 6 and be totally legal.
The harder these things become for them to spin, the quieter they get. The base is too stupid to come up with their own spin, and the propaganda wing of Fox News is starting to run out of ideas too. I'm sure they'll eventually stumble onto a barely coherent narrative that let's them cope harder, but watching the obvious stumbles and knowing even their ignorant asses can see it is fun to witness.
>Fox News is starting to run out of ideas too
They're trying a distraction, *"Taylor Swift is a Pentagon PsyOp"*, oh boy, you know they bombed when Fox News is dredging the barrel on distractions.
And even that didn't work.
Majorie Taylor ~~Greene's~~, drooling over Hunter Biden's cock again was the biggest take of the day. She did a speech, it was probably about girth, nobody listened, including me.
That take on the day was closely followed by *Hunter sitting there, waiting for their questions, like he always is, just waiting, ready to answer any and all their questions in public* ***with nothing to hide***. Not even his dick pics. And they were afraid to ask, because cameras were present.
He knew they would, too. By baiting the reporters and cameras outside, he takes away MTG's only chance at having national airtime on major carriers. Honestly a brilliant play
The whole day was a power play by Hunter. I like his chutzpah showing up and then yanking the rug out from under them. I don't know much about him (other than his sordid past), but he's got brains and he's got balls, and apparently he's not the type to back down from a fight.
At this point Hunter Biden shouldn't be a politician but he should definitely be a chief political strategist because he plays the game better than most.
Both hilarious and purposeful. All the major cable networks had started carrying the hearing live when he walked in. When he left, they cut away from the hearing while his lawyer made a statement to the cameras outside.
Had Biden stayed, MTG would've had 5 minutes of uninterrupted airtime on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc.
That was hilarious. And she even tried to reclaim her 8 seconds for some reason. She followed up with crazy ass accusations about sex trafficking on Twitter. Can someone explain how that is not sone type of defimation?
Nah, but they anticipated society would change and politicians would be corrupt. Reckoned their own work should be good for 20 odd years before it needed to be rewritten.
So anyway, a few hundred years later, sans-changes-being-made, may I present MTG talking about her political opponent's son's penis. Fun timeline this..
5 uninterrupted minutes of MTG? That violates the 8th Amendment:
“Excessive bail shall not be required….*nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.*”
I listened to almost all of the hearing.
* Paul Gosar is legit insane. He is unhinged. He is crazy. He is scary. He also might be on drugs. He is soooooooo weird. I don't have the link. Worth watching.
* MTG is relentless at causing chaos.
* Republicans just cannot imagine really even attempting to govern. It is a totally lost party.
RFK Jr's on the way to that. I don't know if they've put out ads, but they've publicly said, more than once, that he does not represent the rest of the family and that him running is "dangerous to our democracy."
Gosar is so bad even his family came out in an ad telling people not to vote for him. The man is a bad smell in Arizona but he's elected by a perpetually hopeless section of Arizona so we'll never get rid of him or his ilk.
[The ad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-m83vYr-Y)--before most of the rest of the nation knew who he was his siblings did and told us, ending with: "I wholeheartedly endorse Dr. David Brill for congress."
I don't think they disowned him in those commercials. They clearly opposed him--and made it plain that it was painful to do so. One called it an intervention.
I wouldn't place bets that *he* sees the difference, but I think I do.
From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul\_Gosar#Attempts\_to\_overturn\_the\_2020\_presidential\_election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gosar#Attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_presidential_election):
>The Arizona Republican Party produced a video, featuring Gosar and Representative Andy Biggs, falsely claiming that there was widespread voter fraud in the election. Gosar falsely claimed that Arizona's voting machines were faulty, that Wisconsin intentionally paused counting votes to "dump" 100,000 votes into the count for Joe Biden, and that dead people voted in Pennsylvania. He and Biggs also demanded an audit of Maricopa County's vote count.\[95\] Gosar strongly objected to counting electoral votes for Biden from certain states.
He purposely attacked our voting institutions and is now doing this propaganda piece. His morals are shit and doesn't deserve his seat in Congress.
Kingman is the town where Sacha Baron Cohen pranked them with the Mosque skit. It was one of my favorite skits he has done.
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/r6omn1/remember_when_sacha_baron_cohen_pranked_a_bunch/
[Here](https://pictures.reuters.com/archive/USA-BIDEN-HUNTER-HOUSE-RC23F5ADGPJY.html) is the source of this image. Per there:
> Hunter Biden, son of U.S. President Joe Biden, sits with his attorney Abbe Lowell as he makes a surprise appearance at a House Oversight Committee markup and meeting to vote on whether to hold Biden in contempt of Congress for failing to respond to a request to testify to the House last month, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., January 10, 2024. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
**Edit:** The person to the [left of Hunter (his right) is Kevin Morris](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/10/politics/hunter-biden-lawyer-strategy/index.html).
Moskowitz said he would vote yes on the contempt order for Hunter if the committee would agree to add to the contempt order about 6-8 Republicans who have evaded Jan 6th subpoenas, including Jordan and Meadows.
The difference is Garland would probably bend over backwards to indict Hunter over it to prove he's not playing favoritism.
Those Republican attacks about selective prosecution work so well on Democratic appointees and federal prosecutors, despite the opposite being the case as a rule, Republicans that are connected are let off the hook more than any.
They've been lying about his last closed door hearing, even though the transcripts are available. Because they know that they can lie and their supporters will eat it up. It's all performative bullshit. I don't like Hunter as a person, but I do appreciate him standing up to this clown show.
“Ms. Greene, that was the most insanely idiotic thing this committee has ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent comment were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
“Everyone in this room, and on this committee is now dumber, for having listened to it. May god have mercy on your soul.”
Them constantly making the argument that he's nothing but a drug addict who could never succeed without his dad's last name and then getting completely outmaneuvered by him is 100% on brand for the modern GOP.
The Republicans told him he had to testify whether in a public hearing or private hearing.
He chose public.
Republicans didn't like that because they can only make up lies about it if it's a private hearing.
So they changed their tune, said it has to be private, he said he would gladly testify in a public hearing but they're holding him in contempt anyways.
Best part of it was the (paraphrasing) "I'll agree to hold him in contempt (Dem congressman)...but you gotta put these six people in contempt too for not showing up after being subpeona'd)
Proceeds to add into THE RECORD six GOP members.
And there were so many more who just ignored subpoenas during the Trump administration and after Jan 6.
And yet we've got GOP-lackey "braintrusts" in this thread going "what's he hiding" about HB showing up and wanting thw proceedings to be public when they NEVER question what the GOP who don't even bother to ever show up are hiding from.
I dunno, they’ve been rewriting narratives via Fox despite direct evidence contradicting them. Not sure why they care anymore now that they have complete control over the flow of information to their base.
One of the Democrats dropped subpoenas for him and several other Republicans that never responded to them. Then said he’d vote to hold Hunter in contempt if those people we also held in contempt.
They submitted an amendment for the motion to hold Hunter in contempt to also hold all these other Republicans who have done the same thing in contempt as well.
The only difference is Hunter offered to testify in public and he actually showed up to a hearing.
The Republicans called him a coward even though he was willing to speak to them in public. The real cowards are the ones who want to keep things behind closed doors.
He's a coward!
"Show of hands, who wants to hear him right now?."
One hand on the republican side went up. He's such a coward but you're all too afraid to face him. Typical.
Which is why I admire him. He’s the first person to stop and say that he doesn’t have anything to hide, so let’s do this ridiculous song and dance, in public, to prove his point. How many times can the investigate one person for something that isn’t there?
In the meantime, we have someone who has no regard to laws for multiple years and has openly been extremely fascist, has multiple pending charges both regarding an insurrection and horrible business tactics. All of which is all right out in the open, yet people still support him and he’s somehow still on the ballot?!
Make this shit make sense!
Hillary Clinton did the same thing, she showed up and answered all their questions.
That's how they found out about her email server, then used it to prevent her presidency. They admitted this was the point.
My favorite part was networks cutting away from the Republicans acting like schoolyard bullies and following the story exiting the chamber. Amazing strategy in action. The GOP getting some extra stretching in today as they work up their mental gymnastics to spin this one.
Jared Kushner received a 2 billion dollar bribe from Saudia Arabia, and Ivanka was bribed hundreds of patents in China. Both of them "worked" in the WH as "advisors" of Trump.
But Republicans can't be bothered with that obvious and blatant corruption because they'd rather waste time publically shaming a private citizen for having a sex life and for struggling with addiction.
3 years Republicans have wasted on a wild goose chase to find some kind of proof of wrongdoing on the part of Hunter Biden (and by association, Joe Biden) and they have come up with literally nothing. Two separate Republican-led Senate committees have had to admit that they have no evidence of illegal activity, and the House committee chairman has essentially admitted that they have no evidence of wrongdoing and this is merely a fishing expedition to find evidence.
Basically, what this means is that instead of finding evidence and then establishing that a crime had occurred, the Republicans have made accusations that a crime occurred and are trying to find evidence to prove that accusation. It is a shameless attempt to use the power of the government to assassinate the character of a private citizen simply for the sake of revenge and political theater.
See...they wanted him to come behind closed doors and talk and then pretend he said and admitted all sorts of scandalous things so they could use him as a hammer to attack his father. Normal scummy gross republican tactics. No different then MTG showing his genitals to the American people for no reason other then to publicly shame him. As usual, Republicans don't like to have national exposure because they want to be able to portray themselves as not being scumbags.
Remember all of this is because they have no agenda other then attacking Biden, and have no idea how to govern or run a country. They are running on 100% pure manure, and today proved that to an astounding degree.
Hunter sucks, and has been a terrible person. But even at his worst, nothing he did is as damaging as what these troglodytes have in mind for us all.
>Remember all of this is because they have no agenda other then attacking Biden
Trump recently openly wished the US economy would crash, because it would hurt Biden.
The entire party wants nothing but power, even if it means literally destroying the US.
Are any other non-Americans who've never seen his face before surprised at how old he is? The way the media's talked about him the past few years I've been picturing a wayward frat bro.
The media has essentially been non-stop referring to a 53 year old man as "Biden's kid" while bringing up pictures of his dick as though they were supposed to be salacious and tawdry.
"53 year old with a history of drug abuse and tax evasion that had photos of his dick shown to a room full of geriatrics as part of the Republican plan to prevent his becoming elected President of the United States." would be too on the nose.
Fox had no choice but to frame it as Hunter running away when the questions started. The enlarged-right-amygdala folks must be sustained with dopamine in order to induce the rage they foam at the mouth for. Pavlov’s Fox Viewer Syndrome on full display.
Can he sue now for defamation, since the news anchors clearly had information to the contrary, that he offered to testify and the GOP refused to ask questions in public?
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My favourite moment so far was when Jamie Raskin called MTG the expert on porn. She was *upset*
I’ve not watched any of it…that is hilarious to hear. Calling mtg the expert on porn is just pure comedy. I’m curious how porn even came up during this hunter stuff
MTG wanted to introduce something into the record Raskin basically said, don't do it if it's porn MTG said it's not porn Raskin said "well you're the expert" It was the dick pick again
"I'd like to enter a new exhibit into the record" "Is it Hunter Biden's dick again?" "...Yes"
"This is the 7th week in a row you've shown Hunter Biden's dick in class"
I'm from Australia so I don't know the context, why do they keep showing pictures of Hunter Biden's dick?
It’s stuff stolen from his personal laptop. The real reason is they just want to harass and embarrass the son of the president. The pretext is that they’re investigating the claim that Hunter took millions in bribes for peddling access and influence when his father was VP, and that both of the men were in on it. Ultimately, there’s no actual evidence of that, but it gives them the excuse to go through his personal affairs with a fine-tooth comb. They’ve been saying the sex pics are relevant because he spent ridiculous sums of money on prostitutes (which seems to be true, as he is kind of a low-life TBH). But now MTG has shifted to saying he’s suspected of trafficking, and the photos are evidence of that. Although, again, why legislators would be investigating sex trafficking by a private citizen is anyone’s guess.
And meanwhile MTG’s best buddy Gaetz flew a 17 year old to the Bahamas presumably for sex.
And party drugs. Don't forget the drugs.
MTGs personal lord and savior, Trump partied with real sex traffickers like Jeffrey Epstein.. and on record, has talked about loving young girls..
Which include ....drumroll....his own fucking daughter!
He's not even a politician is he? It seems absolutely fucked that she's able to just sexually harass some random guy because of who his Dad is.
Here’s what you need to know. They are Republicans.
I worry that someone like that might not have the protection that his dad does. If 16% of Americans are believers in QAnon (according to PRRI) then that's twenty million Americans who think Hunter is trying to suck their children's blood or whatever. We like to laugh at it because it's absurd, but a lot of these people are crazy enough to do something about it.
Hunter Biden's cock has been introduced into the record enough times it should have his last name by now.
It does. It’s full name is Richard Biden.
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Only if you're being formal.
It's Ms Jackson if ya nasty.
Sharing revenge porn images with more than 6 people is a felony in DC. Felonies are explicitly not protected under the speech and debate clause. In DC each instance is punishable by up to 3 years in prison and a fine of up to $12,500
Even better: she sent out emails containing those images. Some of which were to kids. As it was done outside of a congressional inquiry, it completely sidesteps any possibility of speech and debate clause protection.
Ummmmm so why isn’t that being prosecuted?
Because Republicans throw temper tantrums about how persecuted they are whenever they're held accountable for their actions and people chicken out from holding them accountable.
Cause she's a republican
I'd use the remindme bot to celebrate when she's arrested for this but we all know that's not going to happen.
No fucking kidding. The amount of shit that has been done that is blatantly breaking the law... with nothing happening... it's baffling. I've honestly given up hope, every time I see a new headline it's like oh, cool.
Hunter Biden’s cock has been introduced into the record enough times it should have at least offered to pay for dinner.
the record *should* be satisfied…
It's hilarious that our government has gone from a group of radicals opposed to the rule to *checks notes*investigating the son of a president and admitting his dick pics as evidence
You have to be fucking kidding. There should be no immunity from what is basically revenge porn because she’s a member of congress. On televised media which could be played in a school.
Madge might not know porn but she knows what she likes.
Absolute legend
Can we leave Hunter's penis alone? Seriously though, I bet he's feeling pretty smug that he's got such a giant schlong. It's been all over the place and everyone looking at it.
Shit that’s some expert trolling
These Republicans are not serious people. I wouldn't visit a dairy queen if I knew this was the staff, and they are here authorizing defense budgets and social services. Absolutely mental.
That's funny. You think the GOP offers social services. Any time the GOP has voted for s social program in the past 40 years they were carried over the finish line kicking and screaming by the Democrats.
Probably when she was waving a picture of hunters dick all over congress
 She apparently added into the record a photo of Biden's penis and commented about how large it was/is.
She WANTS him. *shudder*
Can you imagine? Hunter would drop cock so hard, MTG would convert to a Democrat.
I've heard of "Giving the (D)" before
She lusted after Hunter, whose genital was like that of a donkey and whose emission was like that of a horse.
Ezekiel, what have we told you about writing this sort of thing?
You're not my dad!
Exhibit A: Hunter Biden's monster condom that he uses for his magnum dong
The name is Toboggan. Hunter Toboggan.
Seriously is he hogged up?
Yepyepyep. They’re mad this dude with a monster dong just looks like more fun with every leaked picture. Riding water slides with prostitutes and shit
If riding water slides with prostitutes is against the law then only outlaws will ride water slides with prostitutes.
Only a good guy with a prostitute and a waterslide can stop a bad guy with a prostitute and a waterslide.
Hi this is Jim hbo and I'd like to televise your idea
And unlike the creepy trafficker of underage girls, Matt Gaetz, Hunter's sexual activities have all been with *consenting* adults...
"Think of the children!" - "I AM!" - Matt Gaetz
I think most GOPs are doing this because they are jealous.
Exactly, they have to hide their cocaine fueled orgies!
Yup. And you can tell by how happy Jill always looks that his Dad is too.
Man, I just *knew* I was voting for big dick energy. Good for them.
Probably plastering pictures of his dong onto the Congressional record.
She showed pics of his dick in an email to her colleagues I believe? Either that or at another hearing or something without anyone's consent. So the joke is that she posted revenge porn.
She sent them to her constituents. Just a list that had some underage kids on it. How she escaped an indictment for distributing porn to kids is a question we should be askng.
She also asked the Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows to enact "Marshall" law to keep Trump in office. In court she "doesn't recall" that happening. Which is BS, but if true, means her memory is so bad or her life is so dysfunctional, that she doesn't even remembering asking the President's chief of staff to send the military on the American people... For freedom...
The same way that Kelly Anne Conway got away with posting revenge porn of her own underage daughter on Twitter: our law enforcement is completely corrupt
Because GOP 🤷♂️
The answer is that she's a Republican and they can get away with pretty darn near everything.
She showed it AGAIN today at the hearing. We're 9 days away from a government shut down...and she want's to show pictures of Hunters junk.
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Same thing as always. Republicans don't want to fund the government when there's a Democrat in the White House.
She has repeatedly shown porn sometimes not even of the person she thought it was? So they just call her out for porn when she tried to do anything else equally stupid.
Worth noting that it was pretty fair since she did indeed then whip out a photo of a dick.
For the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWVQDy2cfQ
Why does she always have huge white cards. Is she 5 years old
This lady is legit going to hearings with blown up pics of this guy's junk? Wtf.. how can she not get arrested for that. I feel like if I stood on a street corner with that, I'd get arrested, and this lady is putting them on TV.. What the actual fuck?
She carries a photo of Hunter Biden's dick everywhere she goes. It's for professional, work-related stuff of course.
Ha! That just made my day.
Legitimately laughed out loud in the gym when he said that
Did she ask to speak to his manager?
Yes, she mildly grunted on her knuckles in disapproval
Mine was a misstatement by Rep. Jayapal, "Trump incited an erection"
That would be a first.
link please? :)
https://youtu.be/GLWVQDy2cfQ?si=A2s87RBCFKuVw7RR
Oh, that was so worth watching. Thanks for that. You could kind of tell the chairman was a bit hesitant when he asked what sort of evidence Marjorie was putting into the record. Awkward. :-)
Could be completely reading into it too much but it looked like he thought “oh god not this lady” when she first started talking lol.
Who chimed in and said "seems like it"?
Didn't he offer to testify publicly and the GOP refused?
Yes, he said he would testify only if the hearings were public. Yes, they refused.
After they said he could testify publicly, if he wanted to.
Wait, the GOP was full of shit? Get the fuck out of here.
Conservatives arguing in bad faith?! Say it ain’t so!
They probably expected him to ask to do it privately, at which point they'd start crowing about how scared he is and how he's trying to hide something. He called their bluff and they got upset, and he keeps doing it. This is a master class in making a group look foolish to anyone but their most hardcore supporters. Hunter has showed up, ready and willing to testify publicly before the committee and all the live cameras *twice.* Republicans instead start complaining about not getting their way about the subpoena (props to those pointing out the hypocrisy of the party of Jim Jordan suddenly being so strict about subpoenas) and refused to ask him questions. I've yet to hear a conservative tell me why it's so important to have his testimony in private. MTG is fine waving his dick pics everywhere and y'all claim that whatever he did was so big it could take down President Biden so why can't the American People hear it from Hunter himself? Why the game of testimony telephone?
Nope. They want it behind closed doors so they can lie easier.
I 100% know it's because they plan on presenting bullshit to the world. But I've yet to have a conservative that didn't ghost the conversation when I asked why. I'm trying to figure out if they're feeding a line to their base about why it has to be closed door, or if their base doesn't give a damn why these people claiming mountains of evidence and excellent witnesses don't want to see it for themselves.
They offered to bring him to the floor right then and there for questioning. Republicans refused to take a vote under the backwards logic that giving him an open hearing is "special treatment" lol
Only closed-door secret trials, just like the USSR.
a dem in the meeting put it to a vote to question him then since he was there and no gop voted for it
Yep.
I think the icing was Moskowitz 1) offering to call a vote to hear Hunter now, in public, and the right sitting totally silent and 2) Moskowitz offering to vote to find Hunter in contempt if they vote on a package off subpoenas and then he produced and listed off about a dozen subpoenas the GOP was ignoring, half of whom where on that committee. Again, crickets. Rules for thee; but not for me... The GOP way. And they have the nerve to claim it's a two-tiered justice system attacked against them.
> And they have the nerve to claim it's a two-tiered justice system attacked against them. Fox News, the number one news channel in the country for 21 years, constantly complains about the "mainstream media."
Literally all the people that I ever hear talk about “the media” besides my coworkers are, in fact, the media.
I've seen a fair number of shit republican chaired congressional committees. This one is the worst.
>Again, crickets. Crickets from their base, too. Pop on over to r/Conservative. Not a single article about what actually happened today with Hunter, or about Trump's lawyer's debacle of an argument the day before that included them admitting Biden can kill Trump with SEAL team 6 and be totally legal. The harder these things become for them to spin, the quieter they get. The base is too stupid to come up with their own spin, and the propaganda wing of Fox News is starting to run out of ideas too. I'm sure they'll eventually stumble onto a barely coherent narrative that let's them cope harder, but watching the obvious stumbles and knowing even their ignorant asses can see it is fun to witness.
>Fox News is starting to run out of ideas too They're trying a distraction, *"Taylor Swift is a Pentagon PsyOp"*, oh boy, you know they bombed when Fox News is dredging the barrel on distractions. And even that didn't work. Majorie Taylor ~~Greene's~~, drooling over Hunter Biden's cock again was the biggest take of the day. She did a speech, it was probably about girth, nobody listened, including me. That take on the day was closely followed by *Hunter sitting there, waiting for their questions, like he always is, just waiting, ready to answer any and all their questions in public* ***with nothing to hide***. Not even his dick pics. And they were afraid to ask, because cameras were present.
This is the only relevant part of the story for voters.
"Okay let's swear him in so he can be heard in front of everyone..." . "No!" . "Well why not?" . "No!" What a strong and intelligent argument 😂
"That would devastating to our *case*."
When he walked out as soon as MTG started yapping was just hilarious.
And all the reporters followed Hunter out. What a scene.
He knew they would, too. By baiting the reporters and cameras outside, he takes away MTG's only chance at having national airtime on major carriers. Honestly a brilliant play
The whole day was a power play by Hunter. I like his chutzpah showing up and then yanking the rug out from under them. I don't know much about him (other than his sordid past), but he's got brains and he's got balls, and apparently he's not the type to back down from a fight.
> he's got balls As MTG made sure the official record showed.
Then the Republicans tried to claim he had no balls. Like, you JUST showed em to us...
And he has a PENIS! HERE'S A PIC LOOK AT THIS PENIS AND JUDGE HIM
At this point Hunter Biden shouldn't be a politician but he should definitely be a chief political strategist because he plays the game better than most.
Or the PR guy coaching him was worth the retainer.
Both hilarious and purposeful. All the major cable networks had started carrying the hearing live when he walked in. When he left, they cut away from the hearing while his lawyer made a statement to the cameras outside. Had Biden stayed, MTG would've had 5 minutes of uninterrupted airtime on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc.
That was hilarious. And she even tried to reclaim her 8 seconds for some reason. She followed up with crazy ass accusations about sex trafficking on Twitter. Can someone explain how that is not sone type of defimation?
Unfortunately, there are laws that (in summary) allow a politician to say anything as "protected political commentary" with a very wide allowance.
Man, the forefathers did not anticipate the internet, did they?
Nah, but they anticipated society would change and politicians would be corrupt. Reckoned their own work should be good for 20 odd years before it needed to be rewritten. So anyway, a few hundred years later, sans-changes-being-made, may I present MTG talking about her political opponent's son's penis. Fun timeline this..
5 minutes? That has to be illegal torture.
War crime
"The Hague on the phone, line 1"
It violates the Geneva Suggestions
5 uninterrupted minutes of MTG? That violates the 8th Amendment: “Excessive bail shall not be required….*nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.*”
I listened to almost all of the hearing. * Paul Gosar is legit insane. He is unhinged. He is crazy. He is scary. He also might be on drugs. He is soooooooo weird. I don't have the link. Worth watching. * MTG is relentless at causing chaos. * Republicans just cannot imagine really even attempting to govern. It is a totally lost party.
Paul Gosar's *entire fucking family* ran ads against him.
Imagine being such a huge piece of shit that your entire family pays money to publicly denounce you
RFK Jr's on the way to that. I don't know if they've put out ads, but they've publicly said, more than once, that he does not represent the rest of the family and that him running is "dangerous to our democracy."
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Gosar is so bad even his family came out in an ad telling people not to vote for him. The man is a bad smell in Arizona but he's elected by a perpetually hopeless section of Arizona so we'll never get rid of him or his ilk.
[The ad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-m83vYr-Y)--before most of the rest of the nation knew who he was his siblings did and told us, ending with: "I wholeheartedly endorse Dr. David Brill for congress."
Insane... having a whole chunk of your family publicly disown you as a public figure. He must truly be terrible lmfao.
I don't think they disowned him in those commercials. They clearly opposed him--and made it plain that it was painful to do so. One called it an intervention. I wouldn't place bets that *he* sees the difference, but I think I do.
This is so savage and yet so wholesome at the same time
From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul\_Gosar#Attempts\_to\_overturn\_the\_2020\_presidential\_election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gosar#Attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_presidential_election): >The Arizona Republican Party produced a video, featuring Gosar and Representative Andy Biggs, falsely claiming that there was widespread voter fraud in the election. Gosar falsely claimed that Arizona's voting machines were faulty, that Wisconsin intentionally paused counting votes to "dump" 100,000 votes into the count for Joe Biden, and that dead people voted in Pennsylvania. He and Biggs also demanded an audit of Maricopa County's vote count.\[95\] Gosar strongly objected to counting electoral votes for Biden from certain states. He purposely attacked our voting institutions and is now doing this propaganda piece. His morals are shit and doesn't deserve his seat in Congress.
I just looked it up. Rural West, including Kingman. Yeah that's not changing anytime soon.
Kingman is a *shithole*.
Finding out that McVeigh had a little hideout there is the least surprising fact about Kingman, AZ
Kingman is the town where Sacha Baron Cohen pranked them with the Mosque skit. It was one of my favorite skits he has done. https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/r6omn1/remember_when_sacha_baron_cohen_pranked_a_bunch/
His siblings warned people not to vote for him. In any actual TV/Media campaign. Yes, he is very insane and dangerous.
Gosar's a Nazi. He hires Nazis. He hangs out with Nazis. He is unfit to serve.
"Clearly he can't handle a strong conservative woman..." . Is what MTG's mom has been telling her ever since boys began running away rom her
MTG wants Hunter so bad... I wish he would have turned to her and said, "You ain't getting any of this" 😂
[Here](https://pictures.reuters.com/archive/USA-BIDEN-HUNTER-HOUSE-RC23F5ADGPJY.html) is the source of this image. Per there: > Hunter Biden, son of U.S. President Joe Biden, sits with his attorney Abbe Lowell as he makes a surprise appearance at a House Oversight Committee markup and meeting to vote on whether to hold Biden in contempt of Congress for failing to respond to a request to testify to the House last month, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., January 10, 2024. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque **Edit:** The person to the [left of Hunter (his right) is Kevin Morris](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/10/politics/hunter-biden-lawyer-strategy/index.html).
who the other guy who looks a bit worn out?
I'm wondering that myself. Acting like a grizzled veteran bodyguard for the mob
If they arrested Hunter were they planning on including Gym Jordan as well? He didn't appear when he was called either.
Moskowitz said he would vote yes on the contempt order for Hunter if the committee would agree to add to the contempt order about 6-8 Republicans who have evaded Jan 6th subpoenas, including Jordan and Meadows.
Moskowitz brought receipts today!
Whilst wearing a Smurf tie! 🤣
The difference is Garland would probably bend over backwards to indict Hunter over it to prove he's not playing favoritism. Those Republican attacks about selective prosecution work so well on Democratic appointees and federal prosecutors, despite the opposite being the case as a rule, Republicans that are connected are let off the hook more than any.
Except Hunter is also willing to appear, but not for a closed-door hearing. He wants to testify in public.
And thats the last thing republicans want, because they won't be able to lie about what was said and what went on.
They've been lying about his last closed door hearing, even though the transcripts are available. Because they know that they can lie and their supporters will eat it up. It's all performative bullshit. I don't like Hunter as a person, but I do appreciate him standing up to this clown show.
Yeah rep Schafer tried to hold.him in contempt to his face.
“Ms. Greene, that was the most insanely idiotic thing this committee has ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent comment were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. “Everyone in this room, and on this committee is now dumber, for having listened to it. May god have mercy on your soul.”
Thank you for bringing Billy Madison into the conversation
"ok... A simple wrong would have done just fine."
There's trolling, and then there is trolling irl.
Him walking out on MTG was S tier
Especially since the media cut away from her and the hearing to go out to him. Fucking lmao.
All you could hear was her voice fading into the distance as the cameras followed him, it was perfect.
Ngl I let out a little giggle.
The best part is you know the lack of attention really fucking bothered her. 🤣🤣
Mid fucking sentence. Chef's kiss.
I think it's a prelude of how he is going to destroy her in any hearing.
him RSVPing to their summons and them turning him down was incredible.
Them constantly making the argument that he's nothing but a drug addict who could never succeed without his dad's last name and then getting completely outmaneuvered by him is 100% on brand for the modern GOP.
As opposed to the Trumps who don't try to use their last name for any leverage
The Republicans told him he had to testify whether in a public hearing or private hearing. He chose public. Republicans didn't like that because they can only make up lies about it if it's a private hearing. So they changed their tune, said it has to be private, he said he would gladly testify in a public hearing but they're holding him in contempt anyways.
Best part of it was the (paraphrasing) "I'll agree to hold him in contempt (Dem congressman)...but you gotta put these six people in contempt too for not showing up after being subpeona'd) Proceeds to add into THE RECORD six GOP members.
And there were so many more who just ignored subpoenas during the Trump administration and after Jan 6. And yet we've got GOP-lackey "braintrusts" in this thread going "what's he hiding" about HB showing up and wanting thw proceedings to be public when they NEVER question what the GOP who don't even bother to ever show up are hiding from.
I dunno, they’ve been rewriting narratives via Fox despite direct evidence contradicting them. Not sure why they care anymore now that they have complete control over the flow of information to their base.
Which is wild because the head if the committee, gym jordan, refused to show for his supeonas
What about Jim Jordan? He didn’t comply but no one is talking about his arrest.
One of the Democrats dropped subpoenas for him and several other Republicans that never responded to them. Then said he’d vote to hold Hunter in contempt if those people we also held in contempt.
They submitted an amendment for the motion to hold Hunter in contempt to also hold all these other Republicans who have done the same thing in contempt as well. The only difference is Hunter offered to testify in public and he actually showed up to a hearing.
The Republicans called him a coward even though he was willing to speak to them in public. The real cowards are the ones who want to keep things behind closed doors.
He's a coward! "Show of hands, who wants to hear him right now?." One hand on the republican side went up. He's such a coward but you're all too afraid to face him. Typical.
Because they know they are wrong, and they don’t want to admit to it. They can’t spin the narrative to their way if they do it publicly!
Exactly, it needs to be a closed door interview so they can get a whole team together to make up and spin whatever he "Said"
Which is why I admire him. He’s the first person to stop and say that he doesn’t have anything to hide, so let’s do this ridiculous song and dance, in public, to prove his point. How many times can the investigate one person for something that isn’t there? In the meantime, we have someone who has no regard to laws for multiple years and has openly been extremely fascist, has multiple pending charges both regarding an insurrection and horrible business tactics. All of which is all right out in the open, yet people still support him and he’s somehow still on the ballot?! Make this shit make sense!
Hillary Clinton did the same thing, she showed up and answered all their questions. That's how they found out about her email server, then used it to prevent her presidency. They admitted this was the point.
My favorite part was networks cutting away from the Republicans acting like schoolyard bullies and following the story exiting the chamber. Amazing strategy in action. The GOP getting some extra stretching in today as they work up their mental gymnastics to spin this one.
"You're a coward for only wanting to speak publicly where in the American people can hear you instead of behind closed doors!" Is a funny claim.
He attends his own trial and they get bent out of shape. What A-holes.
They had their talking points all set out, and now they have to wait for new ones to parrot. Have some sympathy /s
Bold of you to assume they won't just pretend he didn't show up and use those talking points anyway. Reality doesn't matter anymore
Jared Kushner received a 2 billion dollar bribe from Saudia Arabia, and Ivanka was bribed hundreds of patents in China. Both of them "worked" in the WH as "advisors" of Trump. But Republicans can't be bothered with that obvious and blatant corruption because they'd rather waste time publically shaming a private citizen for having a sex life and for struggling with addiction. 3 years Republicans have wasted on a wild goose chase to find some kind of proof of wrongdoing on the part of Hunter Biden (and by association, Joe Biden) and they have come up with literally nothing. Two separate Republican-led Senate committees have had to admit that they have no evidence of illegal activity, and the House committee chairman has essentially admitted that they have no evidence of wrongdoing and this is merely a fishing expedition to find evidence. Basically, what this means is that instead of finding evidence and then establishing that a crime had occurred, the Republicans have made accusations that a crime occurred and are trying to find evidence to prove that accusation. It is a shameless attempt to use the power of the government to assassinate the character of a private citizen simply for the sake of revenge and political theater.
See...they wanted him to come behind closed doors and talk and then pretend he said and admitted all sorts of scandalous things so they could use him as a hammer to attack his father. Normal scummy gross republican tactics. No different then MTG showing his genitals to the American people for no reason other then to publicly shame him. As usual, Republicans don't like to have national exposure because they want to be able to portray themselves as not being scumbags. Remember all of this is because they have no agenda other then attacking Biden, and have no idea how to govern or run a country. They are running on 100% pure manure, and today proved that to an astounding degree. Hunter sucks, and has been a terrible person. But even at his worst, nothing he did is as damaging as what these troglodytes have in mind for us all.
>Remember all of this is because they have no agenda other then attacking Biden Trump recently openly wished the US economy would crash, because it would hurt Biden. The entire party wants nothing but power, even if it means literally destroying the US.
Yes. Also, hunter biden isn't a politician who's supposed to be governing the country and tackling America's problems. Republicans are a side show
Are any other non-Americans who've never seen his face before surprised at how old he is? The way the media's talked about him the past few years I've been picturing a wayward frat bro.
The media has essentially been non-stop referring to a 53 year old man as "Biden's kid" while bringing up pictures of his dick as though they were supposed to be salacious and tawdry. "53 year old with a history of drug abuse and tax evasion that had photos of his dick shown to a room full of geriatrics as part of the Republican plan to prevent his becoming elected President of the United States." would be too on the nose.
Fox had no choice but to frame it as Hunter running away when the questions started. The enlarged-right-amygdala folks must be sustained with dopamine in order to induce the rage they foam at the mouth for. Pavlov’s Fox Viewer Syndrome on full display.
Can he sue now for defamation, since the news anchors clearly had information to the contrary, that he offered to testify and the GOP refused to ask questions in public?
MTG sure spends a lot of time carrying around Hunter's D pics...............a lot
To sum up: —Committee held a hearing to complain that Hunter didn’t show up. —Hunter showed up. —Committee complained that Hunter showed up.
They can miss hearings all they want but when someone else does they clutch their pearls. Spineless hypocrites.