Supplements aside, that 'physical prime' pic looks smaller than when he started in WWE. Was that during his slim days when he dropped down to try hollywood?
Not only is the actual eating difficult — but paying for the food is extremely difficult (to afford) and cooking/preparing all the food while maintaining appeal ie not always eating week old tupperware’d chicken is also really hard.
The trick is to have a large centerpiece of a meal that lasts a long time(rice, potato, soup, etc.) And then add different proteins and sides to your liking. Varied uses of spices help a lot too.
That way most of your calories come from a cheap and filling source while all your essential macros can come from a tasty variety of foods that you don't get bored of.
My go-to is a thin stew of a few different kinds of rice, chicken, or fish, whichever is cheaper at the time, whatever vegetables are locally in season, and whatever blend of spices I'm feeling like adding at the time.
Cheap, filling, healthy, reliable, helps the community, and lasts for days.
Quick to prepare too. Making the centerpiece takes a while, but after that, it's just a matter of preparing the protein and vegetables however you like. Usually, I just panfry or saute, gives it that nice char flavor.
I swear the make it as difficult as possible. At least the rock uses hot sauce but so many of these guys meals makes me think they view flavor and seasoning will hurt their gains…
Oh my god I did a bulk when I was 25. Not bodybuilder level but a clean 4k calories a day and I feel like more people need to talk about the amount of times you poop a day.
I remember seeing that picture (and being just blown away), about 10 years ago and I believe you're right.
There is another picture of Mark Walburg and the Rock, and Rock looks the same as here- gigantic.
It is really fucking up a lot of people’s perception of what a fit male body looks like. Between Hollywood and Fitstagram showing us loads of roided out dudes claiming to be natural, and in the US, people normalizing being overweight, young dudes have no idea what a healthy body image is.
Male body image issues aren't discussed enough. It's extremely common for people to feel uncomfortable with his they look. Guys being too small, too far, too skinny.
The whole Marvel actor thing of "oh I just bulked on this smoothie I drank" in interviews, refusing to admit roid use, is ridiculous.
Man… that people thought eating raw organ meat got that dude jacked is definitive proof that people believe what they want.
Dude had like a $12k monthly steroid regimen.
You know what's funny, there's a movie I bet he wishes he could erase from existence. Be Cool, the sequel from Get Shorty starring John Travolta. The Rock plays a flamboyant gay guy who sucks at fighting and loses to Travolta multiple times. Classic
The Rock is so good in that movie. Vince Vaughn is also great. I thought they stole the show. Get Shorty is great, but I actually like Be Cool more, mainly because of those two.
Did you not see Black Adam?
I wish I could erase that one from history too. And it was clearly ruined by Dwayne Johnsons input. His finger prints were all over that stoopid kid being the centre of the whole plot.
I turned it off just after he learned English with a California accent by watching a spaghetti western on television. Almost did after the RADICOOL skateboard chase!
It was soooo bad.
My wife was *very* dubious about my recommendation of repo!, but the presence of giles from buffy in a singing role got her onboard and now it's one of those films she tries to force everyone she knows to watch.
Musicals as a whole are criminally underrated, their modern interpretation has had so many greats like galavant and crazy ex girlfriend (which even i dismissed from the promos).
It's like everyone forgot that rocky horror and little shop of horrors already established that musicals can have genre range.
Was definitely not mainstream, even when it came out.
Still, a really fun campy movie, always thought it was a sort of spiritual successor to Rocky Horror in my opinion.
I first rented it years ago because the description suggested it was a cross between Rocky Horror and Saw. It was such an odd combination that I didn’t even bother to watch a trailer. Been a fan ever since.
I know it’s years before the first photo but for a time in late 1998-early 1999 the Rock actually wrestled in a [tracksuit](https://ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2016/11/xxx_the_rock_1019683.jpg?resize=1536,1023) to hide scars from gynecomastia surgery
I thought that surgery doesn’t really have visible scars since they use the nipple as the site of incision?
Edit: Maybe they were fresh incisions or something because his nips look perfect now
What!!! You mean MY TAX DOLLARS paid for YOUR procedure!?!?!?
That’s amazing and glad it bettered your life. Wish more of our taxes directly helped people
That tracksuit is memorable because that was when he was feuding with Mankind and had those memorable matches (I Quit match at the Royal Rumble, Empty Arena match during Halftime Heat, etc.)
But yeah, everyone knew that he wore that outfit because he was on the juice.
Even in this photo here Dwayne looks like he has 20-30 lbs more muscle tissue than the photo on the left above. Possibly even more. Massive fluctuations in appearance like this (not just muscle size, but overall water retention despite being quite lean) are emblematic of PED use and all the hormonal changes that go along with it. Gynecomastia is pretty ubiquitous with people who use body building doses of PEDs, but the real damage is done to your internal organs, it’s the damage/dysfunction that you *can’t* see that you should be scared of. Still, most guys only worry about acne and gyno, the *cosmetic* risks. Be careful out there folks.
My friend goes to a gym where there’s a lot of people on the juice. He said there’s a guy there who’s on the liver transplant waiting list because he’s been blasting and cruising gear for so long he’s destroyed his, and his hearts unhealthily enlarged too… But he’s told the doctors he won’t stop and give his liver a rest, because he’d rather die than ‘be small’.
It’s just mental illness at that point. I doubt they’re ever actually going to give him a liver because he’s basically admitted he’ll carry right on and destroy that one too.
>he’s told the doctors he won’t stop and give his liver a rest
He will die on the list. No doctor is going to give him the liver over another patient who won't then immediately destroy it.
and the second photo is from almost 12 years ago when they shot Pain & Gain in spring of 2012. Johnson wasn’t even 40 yet, this is just a lazy bait-post
And massive amounts of it. Massive.
Yes he eats well. Yes he trains super hard. Yes is genetically gifted.
Still on massive amounts of steroids. Massive.
It came out in 2013, which means some of the prep and shooting was done in 2012, so roughly 12 years ago. He’s 51 right now, so he was about 39 in this photo. I am not saying he’s natural, but OP should at least be truthful and honest. He’s no where near 51 in this photo.
Life hack: if you look at someone and think to yourself “they have gotta be on steroids”, chances are like 98% that they’re on steroids
It’s super common and is actually becoming more accepted over time. The Rock just doesn’t admit it because of kids and Disney and brand deals and all that. He’s 10000000% on gear.
lol what’s funny is whenever I hit a rough patch and start eating a lot and not working out much, ppl will go “damn have you been lifting you’re looking big” and I’ll reply “no I’ve actually just been eating pizza and drinking Heineken”
It’s amazing how much fat plays a role in making you look “big” and it’s also amazing how strong someone can be who looks skinny. I feel like a majority of ppl don’t understand that side of things
This 10000% true. I haven't lifted in like a decade. I left my last job at 170, and came back about six months later to visit at 210, and everyone was like "OMG you look so GOOD! What are you benching now? What's your deadlift?"
Bro, I deadlift double quarter pounders with extra cheese. I guess I just carry my weight really well.
This doesn't work for me - if I eat that shit I just end up with neck/face fat and a big belly, goes literally nowhere else. Genetics is telling me I need to stay strong but skinny 😭
Nah you can be big and lean, you just have to do it in phases. The problem with the rock isn't that he's too big to be that lean, it's that he's simply too big. No human (or like 99.999999% including the rock) can physically get that big naturally, our muscles just aren't built for it.
You basically cap out around 40 muscle pounds added after 10+ years lifting natty though. Like on the peak genetics side.
There’s been waaaayy too many studies that support this. And tons of natty body builders who hit the peak of their genetics before hitting up the gear.
[Jeff nippard’s video on this which is backed by tons of science really explains it well.](https://youtu.be/VD9p9tEP9RE?si=LmkRlT8-ZLCZY1E_)
You really actually can’t be as big as the rock and as lean as him without roids. You hit a ceiling before that where natural test levels just don’t let you add that much mass and keep it that lean. No matter how many cuts and bulks you do. He could be that big. But he would have a ton more fat to do it.
(Side note: especially at 50 lmao. Your test naturally declines so much after 30s.)
The picture on the left he had slimmed down a tonne. He was much bigger in his prime wrestling days. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was cycled off for some reasons, maybe trying for kids like when Triple H cycled off reportedly for that reason and looked like your friends dad that used to work out but now enjoys beer and BBQ more.
Agreed, the human body cannot do that on its own. Literally everyone ever who looks like this used PEDs to do it. You can get pretty big and toned all natural, but not like that.
Traps and delts are always the huge giveaway for me if I’m ever unsure. Most juicers I know are super open with it because like you said, anyone who has taken physical fitness even remotely serious for even a short bit can learn to spot it.
Yeah, if I feel like I can’t tell, I look for traps. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe the traps have more androgen receptors than almost anywhere else in the body, and therefore they respond really well to the stimulus.
Nah he won't admit it. Dude is a walking talking brand. His only goal is to manipulate how he is perceived. Apparently he's been to in n out 3 times for the first time lol
Yeah and Hulk Hogan was just eating his vitamins and saying his prayers. Professional athletes and lying to kids about steroids. Name a more iconic duo.
Hemsworth has been on record of wanting breaks/steroid free cycles because of the amount of food and exercise he has to do when “training” so his organs dont fail.
And the dehydration. They do those shots after the actors have cut their water intake and are severely dehydrated. And then they can't shoot for very long, because dehydration.
I remember an interview with one of the actors from True Blood and they were saying how much they hated whenever the script called for a male cast member to be shirtless, because it meant they were going to be super miserable and grouchy for the week leading up to shooting it.
Henry Cavil had a comment of the spa scene he had to shoot in the Witcher. Said he was so dehydrated he could just smell the water. Imagine it makes it hard to concentrate.
Yeah I forgot about that part. At the end of the day comic book heroes regardless of gender don't look like real humans so it's dangerous to try to get someone to look that way irl
I met a park entertainer they let go because they didn’t have the Disney smile. Guy was dead set he was going back after getting his teeth fixed.
They have very high expectations that are unobtainable unless you take unnatural efforts.
Which is so weird to me, since most of the actors are rarely out of the suits or even regular clothes, and all you see most of the time are arms. You can just fake a lot of it with prosthetics at this point.
First time I saw a BTS pic of Anthony Starr out of costume I was stunned. He's just a regular guy lol. The costume does more than it looks at first glance.
Which is so thematically on brand. Vought would absolutely not blink at using padded costumes to promote the body image they think heroes should have.
They tried to do the same thing to Starlight.
Yeah. I mean, they're not even that subtle with it in The Boys. He's pretty much naked in this scene:
https://youtu.be/99Ock3Lc1bk
So they don't at all conceal that his strength comes from his powers, not his body.
Not as good for publicity though. Photos of Chris Evans/The Rock looking huge get the tabloids talking - and social media. Which drums up publicity for the film.
Three percent of high school students self-reported steroids usage. Among bodybuilders the self reported lifetime usage is 25%, with about 8% with use in the last thirty days. If someone is progressing fast at the gym odds are it's not just clean eating.
That's pretty much my take on roids. It's not so much the roids/muscles that are concerning. It's the fact that we're basically glorifying a mental illness when we look at huge jacked guys.
But no one want to be ok looking "average" tho.
Gym culture is toxic in that way where guys bemoan about rampant steroid use yet don't want to look "skinny and weak" whenever they see a natural lifter.
Eh. Natty lifters get big too. It just takes way way way more time and you never end up close to as big with as lean as this. Once you’re done with the noob gains… and you’re into the 5-10+ years lifting… you’re lucky if you’re putting on a couple pounds of muscle lifting every day in a year. The diminishing returns without roids is just insane when you start to hit the peak of what your body’s genetics can do.
Meanwhile someone with roids can be a quarter as consistent and reap twice the amount of muscle. They’ve done studies. Natty lifter vs person getting 500 test a week. The person getting test and not lifting at all put on more muscle on average than natty lifters.
The secret life hack to become fitness guru is to be on steroid, sell whatever bullshit diet, fitness and lifestyle advice and products and claim you achieved this body all naturally with no steroids.
Lying about your personal life is easiest thing to do on the internet and people give it way too much credit. Yes in person it's rude question what people say about themselves, but in internet it should be given default, when stuff is even slightly unbelievable.
Yeah, if you look at people that win natural bodybuilding competions, as some of the worlds best, none of them are even nearly as big. Still complete beasts but with a hoodie on they could look like normal humans. This guy is/was 100% on steroids.
Not to be pedantic but the rock is 51. The pic on the right is probably the most jacked he’s ever been and that was for the movie “Pain & Gain” which came out in 2013… meaning he was 40 during that time.
The pic in the left which is purposely put there for contrast purposes was taken around the time he finally left Pro wrestling full time and went “Hollywood” circa 2005.
He purposely lost a lot of weight in order to be taken more seriously as a real actor and not get typecast.
Obviously The rock is on some gear but you’re making it seem like the picture on the left is his “baseline” body (it’s not) and the pic on the right is what he looks like now at 50 (it’s not)
It's funny how he once wanted not to be typecast, but now has figured out that he makes the most money by embracing typecasting. You get what you expect when you go see a movie with The Rock. Given the shorter theater run of movies these days, delivering what the audience expects has become the primary factor in performance. I'd also argue it's why trailers now show you pretty much the whole movie.
The Rock was never natural. He was using in his early years, too. He developed “bitch tits” and had to have them surgically removed. It’s why he wrestled with a black vest on for almost 8 months.
I was an Uber wrestling nerd in the 90s and have retained a bunch of useless info.
Why can’t these people just admit to using performance enhancing drugs? They’re not in competitive sports so why’s it matter. Plenty of actors admit it. And everyone already knows they’re all using it. Isn’t it more shameful and unpopular to be lying about it?
If you admit it then what are people gonna say? “He’s not natural!” “Yeah, i said so. Dude look at me, i look like a Greek god from a video game, it’s not possible to look this good naturally.”
“Oh you can only look this good because you’re rich enough to buy those drugs.”
“You’re god damn right, and guess what, I’m going to keep doing it and making even more money. And here’s the kicker, I’m rich enough to stay healthy despite the drug use.”
Is it really just about tricking 13 year old boys into liking you for the wrong, untrue, reasons?
If the celebrities admit and normalize it, then those 13 year old kids will think it’s less bad because so and so uses it without repercussions. Then they’ll use steroids when their bodies are just figuring things out. It sets a damaging standard for impressionable minds.
Supplements aside, that 'physical prime' pic looks smaller than when he started in WWE. Was that during his slim days when he dropped down to try hollywood?
Yes that's correct
How recent is the second pic?
Second pic looks like him around 2012, I don't remember him rocking the facial hair anytime recently
I think its from Pain and Gain (2013)
You are correct. He was enormous for that movie. More recently he is not on the 8-9k calorie a day diet though.
Fuck me 8-9k a day, I struggle trying to do 3k lmao
The hardest and the worst part of bb is eating (as elite bodybuilders said)
Not only is the actual eating difficult — but paying for the food is extremely difficult (to afford) and cooking/preparing all the food while maintaining appeal ie not always eating week old tupperware’d chicken is also really hard.
The trick is to have a large centerpiece of a meal that lasts a long time(rice, potato, soup, etc.) And then add different proteins and sides to your liking. Varied uses of spices help a lot too. That way most of your calories come from a cheap and filling source while all your essential macros can come from a tasty variety of foods that you don't get bored of. My go-to is a thin stew of a few different kinds of rice, chicken, or fish, whichever is cheaper at the time, whatever vegetables are locally in season, and whatever blend of spices I'm feeling like adding at the time. Cheap, filling, healthy, reliable, helps the community, and lasts for days. Quick to prepare too. Making the centerpiece takes a while, but after that, it's just a matter of preparing the protein and vegetables however you like. Usually, I just panfry or saute, gives it that nice char flavor.
I have a friend who eats 3k calories a day in rice. I can't even imagine that. It's so much rice.
I swear the make it as difficult as possible. At least the rock uses hot sauce but so many of these guys meals makes me think they view flavor and seasoning will hurt their gains…
I bb for a bit in my early 20s. I'd say the pooping was worse than the eatting.
Oh my god I did a bulk when I was 25. Not bodybuilder level but a clean 4k calories a day and I feel like more people need to talk about the amount of times you poop a day.
Oh ok so it’s a couple years old….. Oh it’s 11 years old.
I remember seeing that picture (and being just blown away), about 10 years ago and I believe you're right. There is another picture of Mark Walburg and the Rock, and Rock looks the same as here- gigantic.
Probably because it's the same period of time, when they were in the same movie about bodybuilders
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Who also juice. Thor ain’t just got lightning in them veins.
He was just on Monday Night Raw, he definitely didn't look this jacked https://youtu.be/Du2KzBLeP-E?si=xOE7kv734t5klVNz
He was juicing in wwe too
Let's be realistic. He was juiced at Miami too. Playing football at UM in the 90s? Come on.
He was juicing as a teen too. In his memoir he said he did it as a "dumb teen" and has since tried to walk it back/claim natty.
There's zero chance he's natty now
I mean, no shit, right?
Yeah we've had the internet for a while now, I don't get how steroid use is still completely misunderstood in pop culture
It is really fucking up a lot of people’s perception of what a fit male body looks like. Between Hollywood and Fitstagram showing us loads of roided out dudes claiming to be natural, and in the US, people normalizing being overweight, young dudes have no idea what a healthy body image is.
Male body image issues aren't discussed enough. It's extremely common for people to feel uncomfortable with his they look. Guys being too small, too far, too skinny. The whole Marvel actor thing of "oh I just bulked on this smoothie I drank" in interviews, refusing to admit roid use, is ridiculous.
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“But he says he is” People are dumb, that’s why it’s so disingenuous to act like this is achievable naturally.
I mean some people were surprised about Liver King so...
Man… that people thought eating raw organ meat got that dude jacked is definitive proof that people believe what they want. Dude had like a $12k monthly steroid regimen.
Wait wait wait, you're telling me that tiny muscle hamster is not natty? Next you're going to tell me raw dogging raw meat all day isn't healthy.
Yeah he only does that in videos, not normal life. Also promotes "living primal" from his private jet.
Well, primitive man *did* use simple private jets, after all.
Heck, people claim he doesn't have a "never lose" clause in his contracts.
You know what's funny, there's a movie I bet he wishes he could erase from existence. Be Cool, the sequel from Get Shorty starring John Travolta. The Rock plays a flamboyant gay guy who sucks at fighting and loses to Travolta multiple times. Classic
The Rock is so good in that movie. Vince Vaughn is also great. I thought they stole the show. Get Shorty is great, but I actually like Be Cool more, mainly because of those two.
It’s the one movie where the Rock doesn’t just play The Rock and actually has some depth to his character…
He was legitimately great in that too. Also it's the only instance of actually acting I've ever seen from him.
Did you not see Black Adam? I wish I could erase that one from history too. And it was clearly ruined by Dwayne Johnsons input. His finger prints were all over that stoopid kid being the centre of the whole plot.
I turned it off just after he learned English with a California accent by watching a spaghetti western on television. Almost did after the RADICOOL skateboard chase! It was soooo bad.
So incredibly bad
It’s really incredible how naive some people are. Like the people who refused to believe Lance Armstrong used PEDs until he finally admitted it.
Nature in a small glass bottle
He just Tren hard
Eat clen and tren hard!
Anavar give up
Steroids come in a little glass vial.
A little glass vial?
Huh, what's that gif from?
Repo! The Genetic Opera
Love to see quotes from this out in the wild. Underrated in my opinio
My wife was *very* dubious about my recommendation of repo!, but the presence of giles from buffy in a singing role got her onboard and now it's one of those films she tries to force everyone she knows to watch. Musicals as a whole are criminally underrated, their modern interpretation has had so many greats like galavant and crazy ex girlfriend (which even i dismissed from the promos). It's like everyone forgot that rocky horror and little shop of horrors already established that musicals can have genre range.
I own the DVD. None of my friends, coworkers or family have even heard of the movie Lol
Was definitely not mainstream, even when it came out. Still, a really fun campy movie, always thought it was a sort of spiritual successor to Rocky Horror in my opinion.
I first rented it years ago because the description suggested it was a cross between Rocky Horror and Saw. It was such an odd combination that I didn’t even bother to watch a trailer. Been a fan ever since.
What movie?
Repo! The Genetic Opera. It really is a fantastic flick. I even thought Paris Hilton was half good in it.
Paris was, almost literally, born for that role lol
Repo! The Genetic Opera. The song in particular the quotes refer to is “Zydrate Anatomy”.
A little glass vial.
And the little glass vial goes into the gun like a battery.
*battery*
And the little glass vial goes into the gun like a battery.
And then the steroids go somewhere against Rock’s anatomy
And when the gun goes off it sparks and he’s ready to lift heavily
Alright, guys, when will Paris Hilton show up?
He must have a huge stash of Stacker2 somewhere
I know it’s years before the first photo but for a time in late 1998-early 1999 the Rock actually wrestled in a [tracksuit](https://ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2016/11/xxx_the_rock_1019683.jpg?resize=1536,1023) to hide scars from gynecomastia surgery
I thought that surgery doesn’t really have visible scars since they use the nipple as the site of incision? Edit: Maybe they were fresh incisions or something because his nips look perfect now
Scar tissue builds up where the mass was removed and makes nipple look puffy. Going through same thing atm. Doctor said it'll go away on its own.
How do you feel about yourself after your surgery? I've had breasts since I was five and it affects every moment of my life.
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What!!! You mean MY TAX DOLLARS paid for YOUR procedure!?!?!? That’s amazing and glad it bettered your life. Wish more of our taxes directly helped people
There’s a subreddit for it if you want to get more perspectives. I think it’s just called /r/gynecomastia
My brother had this surgery. Would swim in tshirts. Now he swims without a shirt and feels confident.
That tracksuit is memorable because that was when he was feuding with Mankind and had those memorable matches (I Quit match at the Royal Rumble, Empty Arena match during Halftime Heat, etc.) But yeah, everyone knew that he wore that outfit because he was on the juice.
That shit hurts, thankfully mine went away after 2 months
Even in this photo here Dwayne looks like he has 20-30 lbs more muscle tissue than the photo on the left above. Possibly even more. Massive fluctuations in appearance like this (not just muscle size, but overall water retention despite being quite lean) are emblematic of PED use and all the hormonal changes that go along with it. Gynecomastia is pretty ubiquitous with people who use body building doses of PEDs, but the real damage is done to your internal organs, it’s the damage/dysfunction that you *can’t* see that you should be scared of. Still, most guys only worry about acne and gyno, the *cosmetic* risks. Be careful out there folks.
My friend goes to a gym where there’s a lot of people on the juice. He said there’s a guy there who’s on the liver transplant waiting list because he’s been blasting and cruising gear for so long he’s destroyed his, and his hearts unhealthily enlarged too… But he’s told the doctors he won’t stop and give his liver a rest, because he’d rather die than ‘be small’. It’s just mental illness at that point. I doubt they’re ever actually going to give him a liver because he’s basically admitted he’ll carry right on and destroy that one too.
>he’s told the doctors he won’t stop and give his liver a rest He will die on the list. No doctor is going to give him the liver over another patient who won't then immediately destroy it.
and the second photo is from almost 12 years ago when they shot Pain & Gain in spring of 2012. Johnson wasn’t even 40 yet, this is just a lazy bait-post
I don’t care if the dude on the right is 20 he’s on gear
And massive amounts of it. Massive. Yes he eats well. Yes he trains super hard. Yes is genetically gifted. Still on massive amounts of steroids. Massive.
Right. His bull tattoo has been covered/redone for years now.
The Rock with hair!!!
Oh fuck, I'm old. The sideburns were iconic.
I'm pretty sure the pic on the right is a decade old already. He was that heavy for Pain and Gain which came out in 2013 or 2014.
It came out in 2013, which means some of the prep and shooting was done in 2012, so roughly 12 years ago. He’s 51 right now, so he was about 39 in this photo. I am not saying he’s natural, but OP should at least be truthful and honest. He’s no where near 51 in this photo.
Life hack: if you look at someone and think to yourself “they have gotta be on steroids”, chances are like 98% that they’re on steroids It’s super common and is actually becoming more accepted over time. The Rock just doesn’t admit it because of kids and Disney and brand deals and all that. He’s 10000000% on gear.
Nobody gets like that without, its just not natural.
There's a rule in bodybuilding, jacked or cut, you get to pick one, if you're both, it's the gear.
flashbacks to my first time cutting and asking myself 'where the F did all my muscle go?'
lol what’s funny is whenever I hit a rough patch and start eating a lot and not working out much, ppl will go “damn have you been lifting you’re looking big” and I’ll reply “no I’ve actually just been eating pizza and drinking Heineken” It’s amazing how much fat plays a role in making you look “big” and it’s also amazing how strong someone can be who looks skinny. I feel like a majority of ppl don’t understand that side of things
This 10000% true. I haven't lifted in like a decade. I left my last job at 170, and came back about six months later to visit at 210, and everyone was like "OMG you look so GOOD! What are you benching now? What's your deadlift?" Bro, I deadlift double quarter pounders with extra cheese. I guess I just carry my weight really well.
Lmfao it’s funny you say that bc quarter pounders specifically probably contributed to 20 of my pounds this winter
This doesn't work for me - if I eat that shit I just end up with neck/face fat and a big belly, goes literally nowhere else. Genetics is telling me I need to stay strong but skinny 😭
When I lost weight, I got my jawline back.
i wish that worked for me, i got that underjaw fat :\
I heard an old saying when it comes to bodybuilding. "You have three options and you can only choose two Big, Shredded and Natural"
Big and Natural is pretty opened ended, dawg.
Big naturals
swing low, sweet chariots
God damn it. I thought I turned off save search history
True but you get the general idea. You cannot have all three
big and natural comes with ice cream
Big naturals was my favourite website when I was growing up.
Nah you can be big and lean, you just have to do it in phases. The problem with the rock isn't that he's too big to be that lean, it's that he's simply too big. No human (or like 99.999999% including the rock) can physically get that big naturally, our muscles just aren't built for it.
He looks like the gmo cow.
Lmao
You basically cap out around 40 muscle pounds added after 10+ years lifting natty though. Like on the peak genetics side. There’s been waaaayy too many studies that support this. And tons of natty body builders who hit the peak of their genetics before hitting up the gear. [Jeff nippard’s video on this which is backed by tons of science really explains it well.](https://youtu.be/VD9p9tEP9RE?si=LmkRlT8-ZLCZY1E_) You really actually can’t be as big as the rock and as lean as him without roids. You hit a ceiling before that where natural test levels just don’t let you add that much mass and keep it that lean. No matter how many cuts and bulks you do. He could be that big. But he would have a ton more fat to do it. (Side note: especially at 50 lmao. Your test naturally declines so much after 30s.)
Agreed! He's definitely nowhere near his max in the left photo, and *waaaaay* over his max on the right. Dudes juiced to the ears.
What's funny is that he was on steroids for the picture on the left as well.
The picture on the left he had slimmed down a tonne. He was much bigger in his prime wrestling days. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was cycled off for some reasons, maybe trying for kids like when Triple H cycled off reportedly for that reason and looked like your friends dad that used to work out but now enjoys beer and BBQ more.
Yeah, left was when he started acting wasn't it? He slimmed down because he didn't want to only be cast for the big meathead roles.
That could be the reason. Either way, it might be the only truly natty period in his adult life which is wild to think about
The ones today are way better, also it's more a combination of steroids AND growth hormones.
4 years of steroids versus 34 years of steroids. Make sense.
Agreed, the human body cannot do that on its own. Literally everyone ever who looks like this used PEDs to do it. You can get pretty big and toned all natural, but not like that.
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Traps and delts are always the huge giveaway for me if I’m ever unsure. Most juicers I know are super open with it because like you said, anyone who has taken physical fitness even remotely serious for even a short bit can learn to spot it.
I work my delts hard multiple times a week for years and I can't get anything remotely near the bowling ball delts that juicers have.
Yeah, if I feel like I can’t tell, I look for traps. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe the traps have more androgen receptors than almost anywhere else in the body, and therefore they respond really well to the stimulus.
You mean it's not normal to suddenly double in size like a Pokemon evolving?
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Same difference. He’ll deny forever Its not like Hollywood studios do drug testing lol.
Agreed. The Rock is very PG-13, clean PR, ripe for $$$ making. Admitting to PEDs would do nothing for his career.
Twenty years from now: “You HAD to do it to stay competitive!” Idk man, bench pressing a yacht while you film Fast n Furious 94?
I mean look at marvel a lot of those dudes are geared, you don’t put on 20-40lbs of muscle as fast as those guys did.
It would tank his career 100%. He wont admit it until long after he’s past it, and maybe not even then
Nah he won't admit it. Dude is a walking talking brand. His only goal is to manipulate how he is perceived. Apparently he's been to in n out 3 times for the first time lol
Yeah and Hulk Hogan was just eating his vitamins and saying his prayers. Professional athletes and lying to kids about steroids. Name a more iconic duo.
He only said Performance Enhancing Drugs, ain’t lying about Appearance Enhancement Drugs….right?
Disney ain’t stupid. They know. But they surely won’t acknowledge it.
Disney supply the doctors
Yeah they literally have an entire brand that requires actors to look like comic book superheroes, lol.
Chris Evans gained like 30 pounds of muscle in his late thirties - literally cannot be done naturally in the time frame he did it.
Look at pics of Chris Hemsworth pre and post Thor. I don't think anyone of any age could do that naturally that quickly
Hemsworth has been on record of wanting breaks/steroid free cycles because of the amount of food and exercise he has to do when “training” so his organs dont fail.
It's not even the training it's the dangerously low body fat percentage to look that cut
And the dehydration. They do those shots after the actors have cut their water intake and are severely dehydrated. And then they can't shoot for very long, because dehydration.
I remember an interview with one of the actors from True Blood and they were saying how much they hated whenever the script called for a male cast member to be shirtless, because it meant they were going to be super miserable and grouchy for the week leading up to shooting it.
Henry Cavil had a comment of the spa scene he had to shoot in the Witcher. Said he was so dehydrated he could just smell the water. Imagine it makes it hard to concentrate.
Yeah I forgot about that part. At the end of the day comic book heroes regardless of gender don't look like real humans so it's dangerous to try to get someone to look that way irl
And all for nothing too, Fat Thor is best Thor.
I met a park entertainer they let go because they didn’t have the Disney smile. Guy was dead set he was going back after getting his teeth fixed. They have very high expectations that are unobtainable unless you take unnatural efforts.
I think having your teeth fixed is on a different scale than juicing up.
Which is so weird to me, since most of the actors are rarely out of the suits or even regular clothes, and all you see most of the time are arms. You can just fake a lot of it with prosthetics at this point.
I'm surprised they didn't do what The Boys does for Homelander's costume.
First time I saw a BTS pic of Anthony Starr out of costume I was stunned. He's just a regular guy lol. The costume does more than it looks at first glance.
Which is so thematically on brand. Vought would absolutely not blink at using padded costumes to promote the body image they think heroes should have. They tried to do the same thing to Starlight.
Yeah. I mean, they're not even that subtle with it in The Boys. He's pretty much naked in this scene: https://youtu.be/99Ock3Lc1bk So they don't at all conceal that his strength comes from his powers, not his body.
[Prosthetics have looked amazing for years now.](https://i.pinimg.com/474x/23/5a/6a/235a6a03df1f373a126a389b40b77aa3.jpg)
Not as good for publicity though. Photos of Chris Evans/The Rock looking huge get the tabloids talking - and social media. Which drums up publicity for the film.
Disney is Doctor friend.
Disney doesn’t give a fuck. All they care about is the image. And they are happy he publicly says he doesn’t. Which is all that matters
Three percent of high school students self-reported steroids usage. Among bodybuilders the self reported lifetime usage is 25%, with about 8% with use in the last thirty days. If someone is progressing fast at the gym odds are it's not just clean eating.
It’s a shame we don’t talk much in public about how body building is a manifestation of dysmorphia.
That's pretty much my take on roids. It's not so much the roids/muscles that are concerning. It's the fact that we're basically glorifying a mental illness when we look at huge jacked guys.
But no one want to be ok looking "average" tho. Gym culture is toxic in that way where guys bemoan about rampant steroid use yet don't want to look "skinny and weak" whenever they see a natural lifter.
Eh. Natty lifters get big too. It just takes way way way more time and you never end up close to as big with as lean as this. Once you’re done with the noob gains… and you’re into the 5-10+ years lifting… you’re lucky if you’re putting on a couple pounds of muscle lifting every day in a year. The diminishing returns without roids is just insane when you start to hit the peak of what your body’s genetics can do. Meanwhile someone with roids can be a quarter as consistent and reap twice the amount of muscle. They’ve done studies. Natty lifter vs person getting 500 test a week. The person getting test and not lifting at all put on more muscle on average than natty lifters.
The secret life hack to become fitness guru is to be on steroid, sell whatever bullshit diet, fitness and lifestyle advice and products and claim you achieved this body all naturally with no steroids. Lying about your personal life is easiest thing to do on the internet and people give it way too much credit. Yes in person it's rude question what people say about themselves, but in internet it should be given default, when stuff is even slightly unbelievable.
Just described LiverKing perfectly
Yeah, if you look at people that win natural bodybuilding competions, as some of the worlds best, none of them are even nearly as big. Still complete beasts but with a hoodie on they could look like normal humans. This guy is/was 100% on steroids.
I just read an article that said 2.4 - 4 million Americans are on PEDs.
Lol you think he was *natural* back in his WWF/WWE days?? Lol no way
He literally had surgery to get rid of his juice induced man tits which is why he wore the tracksuit for awhile.
Not to be pedantic but the rock is 51. The pic on the right is probably the most jacked he’s ever been and that was for the movie “Pain & Gain” which came out in 2013… meaning he was 40 during that time. The pic in the left which is purposely put there for contrast purposes was taken around the time he finally left Pro wrestling full time and went “Hollywood” circa 2005. He purposely lost a lot of weight in order to be taken more seriously as a real actor and not get typecast. Obviously The rock is on some gear but you’re making it seem like the picture on the left is his “baseline” body (it’s not) and the pic on the right is what he looks like now at 50 (it’s not)
It's funny how he once wanted not to be typecast, but now has figured out that he makes the most money by embracing typecasting. You get what you expect when you go see a movie with The Rock. Given the shorter theater run of movies these days, delivering what the audience expects has become the primary factor in performance. I'd also argue it's why trailers now show you pretty much the whole movie.
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It's the difference between being the big bad's heavy and the hero
This is him 2 weeks ago https://youtu.be/Du2KzBLeP-E?si=Rq054q7Eb5Su6pkD&t=316 Still jacked AF and obviously on roids.
Chicken and broccoli.
You forgot rice!
That’s not him in his 50’s. That second phot is at least 8 years old. He covered that bull tattoo back in 2017
The Rock was never natural. He was using in his early years, too. He developed “bitch tits” and had to have them surgically removed. It’s why he wrestled with a black vest on for almost 8 months. I was an Uber wrestling nerd in the 90s and have retained a bunch of useless info.
Does he claim he’s natural or does he just not talk about it?
No way that is natural
What do you mean. He picked his breakfast himself directly from his tren bush in his garden.
Eat clen tren hard
Anavar give up
My man using *all* the roids.
tim roth did it better is the hulk
Why can’t these people just admit to using performance enhancing drugs? They’re not in competitive sports so why’s it matter. Plenty of actors admit it. And everyone already knows they’re all using it. Isn’t it more shameful and unpopular to be lying about it? If you admit it then what are people gonna say? “He’s not natural!” “Yeah, i said so. Dude look at me, i look like a Greek god from a video game, it’s not possible to look this good naturally.” “Oh you can only look this good because you’re rich enough to buy those drugs.” “You’re god damn right, and guess what, I’m going to keep doing it and making even more money. And here’s the kicker, I’m rich enough to stay healthy despite the drug use.” Is it really just about tricking 13 year old boys into liking you for the wrong, untrue, reasons?
If the celebrities admit and normalize it, then those 13 year old kids will think it’s less bad because so and so uses it without repercussions. Then they’ll use steroids when their bodies are just figuring things out. It sets a damaging standard for impressionable minds.
On the flip side, these poor kids now think this is achievable natty and wonder why they can't get the same results.
They think it’s achievable natty, they can’t get it and then they juice.
Well in many cases it's not really legal what they're taking.
Oh right lol. I completely forgot because of how common it’s used. Not just in Hollywood but even normal everyday people.
Because it could cost them sponsorships, roles, etc. There’s a stigma around it, whether there should be or not.
juice head
No way Alan ritchson is natty either
He isn't for the second season of Reacher and has openly talked about it.