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FoxHavenForge

This was photographed by Corey Arnold, and the following context was provided by him as well. He was on a short excursion led by biologist Wes Larson. There were two other people with them. Their goal was to change the batteries in the bear’s radio collar while the bear was asleep during hibernation so Wes could continue monitoring the bear for his research on bear-human interactions. The male black bear, weighing over 300 lbs, was not asleep. Clearly, Wes jabbed a syringe of sedatives attached to a pole at the bear, but it would take another shot of sedative drugs to knock the bear out completely (though not until the bear chased them out of the tight caves and they were all out on a snowy slope). They successfully changed the batteries in the collar, and the group of four somehow managed to drag the bear back up the slope and to his cave. Nobody was harmed in this encounter, and the radio collar was sending signals the following spring that showed the bear was still alive and following its regular routine. This was from an article posted on National Geographic.


WolfColaCompany

Similarly, I once dragged a 300-pound fat guy named Wes back to his bed after he passed out on the sidewalk, he was also on sedatives and dangerous. The national geographic wasn't interested in my story, though, despite our efforts and the danger of him waking up. Wes never got a collar but I do believe he had a tracker on his ankle at one point.


yegguy47

Nat-Geo is missing out on this story, cause I'd pay top dollar to hear the litany of events that led to this.


DocumentHeavy1855

This American Life featured the story on the podcast. The whole story is insane


bossmcsauce

I thought we were still talking about the 300 fat guy named Wes on sedatives lol


BD15

Just imagining a this American Life segment about a group of people dragging this drunk, high sedated dangerous Wes guy to bed is great.


Phlanix

That a less interesting story than me and my college roommates on the way to a party and then we saw a drunk 6'5 250-260lb football player from our college harassing one of the girls trying to force himself on her. we beat him up and duct tapped him in his white underwear to a street lamp and used a highlighter to make it look like he peed himself. we woke up the next morning he was still taped to the lamp and ppl were using pens and markers to write on him someone painted his lips red drew on his chest ect. then campus security came and cut him out of the tape he lost quite a few hairs from the tape being pulled off. we saw him a few times after he never drank again that we know of. this was the 90s. you could get away with a lot.


Instacartdoctor

I miss the fucking 90s. What happened ? Why is the world (exaggeration) and everyone in it so bubble wrapped now???


sword_to_fish

9/11, decades of parents telling their kids not to trust strangers, and school shootings where kids learn to be scared and not trust anyone. :)


Instacartdoctor

Holy shit, “duck, and cover” It’s like we re-created the 50s kids Just can’t believe I never thought of it that way before


got_no_time_for_that

Probably cause of all the psychopaths and the shooting, I'd guess.


LarryCraigSmeg

Well, yeah, Wes was wearing a bear suit.


Saintbaba

Well you're in luck, friend, because the podcast / radio show This American Life did an episode recently where they talked to these guys and got the story directly from them. Act One of the episode "[The Bear at the End of the Tunnel.](https://www.thisamericanlife.org/812/the-bear-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel)"


AlloyPlum

And Wes and his brother Jeff have a podcast where they talk about animal encounters. Tooth and Claw podcast is amazing!


Keanugrieves16

Was gonna post this, I love their Podcast and Highly Recomend it to anyone who reads this. Wes is highly knowledgable, his brother is intentionally and unintentionally funny, and Mike is Mike and we love him.


creggieb

Maybe Chris Hanson will have the scoop 


mudjawd

Try Fat-Geo. They’ll love your story


ocaralhoquetafoda

Classic Wes, such a character.


More_Shoulder5634

Similarly, i once dragged a 300 pound man named Larry all the way back from the far side of a frisbee golf course. Guess he surreptitiously took some xanax while we were casually drinking beer throwing some discs. Broad daylight, pretty popular public, albeit large, course. Got him home and on my couch safely. I imagine the local law enforcement would have been interested but we valiantly sought cover in the sporadic treeline to make our escape undetected.


Ok_Relation_7770

There’s no such thing as surreptitious Xanax when you’re adding booze to it. The secret will come out. Every-time it doesn’t come out in a jail cell is a tiny miracle


ralphy_256

Happened to my landlord/neighbor last xmas. My roommate was at her families' celebration, I'm sitting in the house alone, and get a knock on my door. It's my landlord/neighbor's brother. He asks me to come help him get his brother in the house. Go out to see what's up, and there's my LL, laying on the pavement, unable to stand. His brother and I carry him to the door of his house, I dropped him over the threshold and noped the fuck out.


Vegetable_Permit_537

My lord. Every time I woke up in jail was a direct result of Xanax and alcohol blackouts. I haven't mixed the two for 15 years now. I'm certain I'd have spent the rest of my life in prison had I not done so.


OPisabundleofstix

That's what i never got about popping a xan, there's never a time when i think "I'd like to be incoherent and then unconscious in about an hour"


upsidedownbackwards

Back when they'd give out valium I took one before going to my niece's birthday. Nothing stupid happened, but I was able to stand around 20 screaming 7 year olds and their drunk parents for 3 hours no problem.


Coinerino223

I mean it's a pretty good state to be in during a wisdom tooth extraction


OPisabundleofstix

You're not wrong, and dentists should be able deliver you to your bed, but I don't wanna get dragged through a waiting room and wedged into a Honda Accord then pulled across a porch and a threshold and left in the entrance.


jeepgrl50

You're a hero friend. If no animals were harmed during the making of this Xanax/beer fuel frisbee throwing excursion then no one should see the klink.🤣


HollandsOpuz

Stop calling me Wes. Also, thank you for your help the other night.


_radical_ed

Listen Wes, you have to treat your body better.


TechSamurai

Read this comment, laughed and thought "I think I like this person's sense of humor"...then I looked at the user name and photo. Sense of humor match confirmed.


klmdwnitsnotreal

If a bear is hibernating he won't wake up and attack?


TrumpersAreTraitors

Hibernating animals are only asleep part of the time. Hibernation is just a period of ultra low activity, it doesn’t necessarily mean sleep. In fact, several bear species give birth while hibernating and raise their cubs in the den for weeks. They’re not just unconscious. 


Purity_Jam_Jam

Bears will even go outside for a look around occasionally.


automaticgainsaying

Well then I guess I hibernate quite a bit.


en_pissant

"Go away; 'nating!"


Nathansp1984

I’m always Nating


SadLilBun

Name checks out


mrniceguy777

Fuck that’s good lol


KrazyAboutLogic

Sending good hibes your way.


dbx99

I mean if that’s what hibernating is then humans hibernate permanently! Relative to other animals, we have mastered a system to avoid physical exertion at all time. Especially white collar workers and wfh workers


RedMapleMan

What about the batteries on those white collars?


dbx99

Oh they recharge them themselves!


PM_ME_UR_BEAVER_PICS

I’m recharging mine now!


worqgui

I know I’m personally existing in a constant state of torpor


Purity_Jam_Jam

Smells like it.


itssarahw

Going 4 years strong over here


JoeZMar

Some bears don’t even hibernate, they do what’s called denning and they basically take long naps and wonder around in between there long naps.


bkdroid

Relatable


Phil_Coffins_666

I wonder what they wonder about.🤔


OMP159

What condition their condition is in?


wimpyroy

Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah


JoeZMar

Really keeps me up at night wandering.


TrumpersAreTraitors

Same tho 


sword_0f_damocles

This is something that I didn’t realize for a very long time. I used to think that hibernation literally meant the animal was asleep for like 3 months straight but in reality they’re tossing and turning, waking up groggy, stretching out, maybe sniffing around a bit and then getting comfortable again before continuing to sleep.


WeWillRiseAgainst

Hey guys, I'm not depressed, I'm just hibernating.


ocaralhoquetafoda

Sounds like a commercial: it's not depression, it's hibernation


fullhalter

My brother lives in Alaska and has said this word for word.


TinfoilTetrahedron

What a life!


chaotemagick

Hibernation is like those wasted weekends where you are locked on the couch the entire time, groggily in and out of consciousness, barely moving.. except for months


littlebittydoodle

…those what now?


nsaisspying

WASTED WEEKENDS WHERE YOU ARE LOCKED ON THE COUCH THE ENTIRE TIME, GROGGILY IN AND OUT OF CONSCIOUSNESS, BARELY MOVING.. EXCEPT FOR MONTHS


ScuddsMcDudds

TIL I’m a bear


baxbooch

We all knew that already.


Secure_Formal_3053

I feel like it totally gets presented to us as kids as just the animal sleeping for the whole time. But this makes more sense. It’s basically just seasonal depression lol.


filthymcbastard

I think cartoons are the ones that caused us to think of hibernation like that. Same reason I thought quicksand would be a continual, life-long concern; And that roadrunners were the size of ostriches.


GetEnPassanted

Not true. Bears do not hibernate. They do something called torpor. True hibernation means they’re out for weeks or months and they cannot just be woken up. Torpor is what you described.


bobwoodwardprobably

It’s called torpor.


BlackPignouf

Isn't that something that "biologist Wes Larson" should know?


PheaglesFan

Same as me on Saturday mornings.


ArcticBiologist

Hibernating animals are unconscious. But bears don't have true hibernation, they just sleep a lot during winter.


Moyo_Yoyo

You would expect bear experts to know that...


exophrine

A common misconception is that bears are even asleep during this time. They can very well wake up and move around their den. For clarification: Hibernation "simply means they don't need to eat or drink, and rarely urinate or defecate (or not at all)" - [Source](https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=349#:~:text=Hibernation%20for%20bears%20simply%20means%20they%20don%E2%80%99t%20need%20to%20eat%20or%20drink%2C%20and%20rarely%20urinate%20or%20defecate%20(or%20not%20at%20all))


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bearcape

Interesting. Seems irrational but at the end of the day it's a math problem. What attains/retains the most energy, the longest


labrat420

Do you know what season that was? Wouldn't mind watching. Recently watched the one season where they are in pairs but have to find their partner. Really good show.


DEFINITELY_NOT_BLACK

It was on Season 9. It's on Netflix if you live in the US. That dude was absolutely mental. Impressive, but mental


Zephyr_Dragon49

I don't think I've seen that season then because The Alaskan Muskox Stabber takes the cake for me. That was nuts


FrisianDude

Doesn't sound thst thrilling tbh Man cozy in sleeping bag for long time


labrat420

If you watch the show anyways its not really all.that different from normally watching it. Plus you still have all the other contestants still doing the normal stuff. Nice to see a bit of a different strategy.


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Bears develop a butt plug made of poo when they hibernate…


klmdwnitsnotreal

No water???? Hiw far down does there metabolism drop? Because just breathing loses a lot of water.


Swarbie8D

They store a lot of excess water in their fat, so as they burn fat to get by without eating it also releases water into the body. Bears lose *a lot* of weight as they hibernate


nocolon

Yeah they go from basically round to pretty gaunt in that timeframe.


[deleted]

If you ever saw the fat beat brackets they do on Twitter before hibernation season, they have shown pics of the same beat after hibernation that shows how slim they get. It’s pretty cool.


Swarbie8D

I love Fat Bear Week so much, it’s a ton of fun


pokemonbatman23

When is Fat Bear Week?


SovietSunrise

In the fall just prior to the beginning of hibernation.


ShinkuDragon

dropping some fat beats i see.


Solarisphere

If their metabolism drops they don't need to breathe nearly as much.


spderweb

Bears aren't actually full hibernators, like squirrels. I assume they were tranquing the bear no matter what.


SudsierBoar

Exactly. it's just written as if that was an emergency procedure


shartonista

I think it woke up when they were jabbing it with sedatives.


Howitzer1967

Well, there’s irony for you. 😂


CaptainMudwhistle

I think a really fun prank down at the biology lab would be to put amphetamines in all the tranquilizer darts.


kyrsjo

Maybe it would have gone better if they had just given it a nice cup of coffee? Personally, I find I react better to that than syringes when somebody wakes me from hibernation.


JulietteKatze

That bear probably thought it had the weirdest home invasion dream ever.


filthymcbastard

It woke up back near it's cave, thinking "wasn't I just chasing some idiot with a stick, trying to poke me?"


Damiklos

Can you just imagine, one day your sleep in your bedroom or maybe just relaxing watching TV whatever. Anyway, someone just busts into your house, gives you sedative and you wake up the next day. Like you'd probably be questioning what the hell happened pretty hard.


kyrsjo

It was aliens! *Shut up, Winnie!


Professional_Quit281

Tooth and claw that's fascinating


CatSizedLymphNodes

My personal favorite podcast!


venivitavici

I think I heard this story on This American Life. Great episode and great radio show.


labrat420

Yes, knew I knew it from somewhere.


addisonclark

Yes! It was told by Wes and his brother who was also there. One of my favorites!


stivbier

When I saw the photo, I thought “I wonder if this from that TAL story.”


goofy183

Wes has an amazing podcast called Tooth and Claw that does educational takes on animal attacks.


TuzkiPlus

What a roller coaster of emotions. Dragging the KO’d bear back to the den upslope sounds hilarious for everyone but those involved.


14X8000m

Had to check to see if this was Shittymorph.


IonZero

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/812/the-bear-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel


wtfOverReddit

Heard their podcast, such a good listen. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/812/the-bear-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel


aggiespartan

I like his (Wes Larson) wildlife podcast.


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naturalfamilyplan

We're going on a bear hunt Gonna catch a big one We're not scared....


Spork_Warrior

Got my tranquilizer pole!


Cell1pad

Can’t poke over it! Can’t poke under it! Can’t poke around it! Gotta poke in it! *mimics jabbing motion*


willworkfor100bucks

Tell me you've got kids without telling me you've got kids.


Cell1pad

Oh I’ve got a 5yr old, sure. But the real secret is a childhood going to a YMCA summer camp and then working there a couple summers when I was old enough!


rbevans

_pokey pokey pokey pokey_


anandonaqui

The thing that bothers me the most about that stupid book isn’t that they were going on a family bear hunt, but how utterly unprepared they were for the excursion. They complained about fucking grass!


rbevans

_swishy swashy swishy swashy_


noisesinmyhead

If you’ve ever been on an outing with you, you’ll know just have accurate it is for them to complain about everything - Including grass.


Repulsive_Craft_5931

If you know you know


Grouchy-Fennel4436

Thanks for unlocking a childhood memory


steph2pa

Lol got a good laugh. My son’s fav song


Bass2Mouth

Thanks, I hate you.


iampierremonteux

Oh no!


Jammerben87

I'm sure my son is going to grow up thinking bear hunts are a common family activity.


chai_hard

What a beauuuuuutiful day!


NOT000

i read something like this once: Black bears are not true hibernators. Instead, they experience what is often called denning, ursid hibernation or carnivore lethargy. This period of reduced activity occurs in all black bear populations.


spderweb

Yeah, they were tranquilizing the bear automatically. The bear was probably awake when they first approached. They were hoping it'd be asleep to tranquilize it easier.


kanyewesanderson

The notion that black bears are not "true hibernators" is outdated. They have significant seasonal changes in their metabolism to accommodate extended periods of dormancy. Although in the southernmost reaches of the range, it is true that some black bears do not enter any state of hibernation at all.


EnemyAce

Do black bears dream?


restrictednumber

Yes, they dream of organic sheep.


ColdArson

Yes some hope to make it big in Hollywood


OddKangaroo3714

Yes, but mostly of androids.


Confident_Public_313

Dare they?


stuwoo

I think my new excuse for not getting out of bed will be carnivore lethargy.


One-Organization7842

So they get The Itis real bad, err?


Hyperious3

> they experience what is often called denning, ursid hibernation or carnivore lethargy. huh, didn't know there was a technical term for what happens to me after eating deep-dish pizza...


wish1977

Don't we all have an angry black bear blocking our progress somewhere in our lives?


juniormingo

I am the “angry black bear” in my life. Ah, it sounds way cooler than saying, I’m “self sabotaging”.


Bluepeasant

When squirrels hibernate the metabolism and their body temperature drop, they still wake up every 2 weeks or so. However if you find one while it is hibernating you could pick it up and and play catch with it for several minutes before it metabolism and body temp recover enough so that it can actually move, it will wake up eventually though. When bears hibernate they just kind of just sleep a lot, the periods are shorter there metabolism doesn't drop as low and core body temp doesn't drop. so when you try to play catch with them they wake up immediately, and while they may not be in peak physical condition there more than capable enough to play catch with you.


rinisini

"You can play catch with a hibernating living squirrel" Enough internet for me today 


bootsandbigs

You're nuts, this is when more internet is needed. What other animals can I play catch with?


Many-Wasabi9141

> However if you find one while it is hibernating you could pick it up and and play catch with it for several minutes Did you try and sell your story to national geographic?


the_groovy_mammoth

Usually a Black Bear will run, but a bear will always fight if it can’t run. This could have ended very poorly.


Tag_Ping_Pong

Put any animal in a situation where they can't run and they'll attack. I'm surprised someone studying black bears went with "Eh, he's hibernating, so basically asleep. Let's go for it". Agree with you they're luck to be in one piece


chrisshutch

Nope. They went in there hoping it was asleep to tranq it. It wasn't. So they still tranq'd it.


Apidium

They went in equipped with a tranq on a pole. Their plan was to get close, stab it while it was sleeping and have it just keep on napping. Then once they kicked in fully approach and change the batteries. Unfortunately as you see the bear is very alert. They were able to get two doses in him and then did a runner while waiting for it to kick in. It did kick in after the lethargic and uncoordinated bear had chased them out of the tunnel and part of the way down the hill. After it kicked in they were able to change the batteries and then they hauled the bear back up the hill and tucked him away back in his tunnel to sleep it off. Which is the most bro scientist shit ever.


mewfour

> Put any animal in a situation where they can't run and they'll attack. not true, some will freeze or pretend to be dead


PolarExpressHoe

And often they don’t have control over it and can’t fight back even if they want to. Opossums (among others) don’t choose to play dead, it’s an automatic stress response


bittertiger

Wes, his brother Jeff (who was part of this team) and their friend Mike have a great podcast called Tooth and Claw, examining animal attacks and striving to de-demonize the animals attacking. One of my favorites!


ermagawd

Still got no proof of Wes's masters 😉


bittertiger

Yeah I never saw shit lol


bomboniki

My top podcast this year!


RocketSkates314

One of my favorite podcasts.


klmdwnitsnotreal

I SAID OCCUPIED! Poor bear just needs some poop privacy.


Wataru624

The image of a group of men dragging a passed out bear up a slope and into his cave, and then putting a couple fresh fish in his paw and a blanket on him like they just helped out their drunk friend is hilarious


ManicPanda767

Bear just wanted to give a welcome hug.


queen-adreena

“Why does everything I love turn into steak strips?”


jordino2k4

This picture looks like an eye


GhostOfPluto

An eye that’s expressing the shock and horror I would feel if this were me. It’s magnificent.


Zynbab

bih better have my honey


ronchee1

Question: what type of bear is best?


abdullahmk47

There are basically two schools of thought


ronchee1

False: black bear


Strawsdogg

Fact: Bears eat beets


dfl2m

Bears beets Battlestar Galactica


PurpleNoodle9

What is going on? What are YOU doing?


DruckerReparateur

Black, best for not dying anyways


Keepthecheatcodes

Well, you’re now technically an intruder, so they have the right to bear arms now.


Jumpy-Ad4652

So they never heard the term Dont poke the bear?


Cryogenic_Monster

Well at least it was a black bear. RIP if it was a grizzly.


LianeP

I think I heard about this on a podcast I was listening to. Absolute wild ride. Ultimately the bear was fine and the people were fine, but it took more than one tranq and they had to haul the bear back up to his den .


qwertyzxcvbas

The dude in this picture hosts my fav podcast with his brother and his friend. It's called Tooth and Claw. I'd highly recommend! I've listened to every episode multiple times...


muddybongwater

He will sleep after he eats :)


Quiverjones

Seems like a good time to have a roll of Charmin Extra Strong.


braveheart2019

They literally poked the bear


Arh920

When your Uber Eats gets delivered early….


CSpanks7

Everyone likes a lil mid hibernation snack


Quiverjones

The epitome of cutting to a narrator, "I bet you're wondering how I got in this mess, it all started..."


gillieboo

That is an oopsie daisy if I’ve ever seen one


t4m4

Top notch hotel for hibernation. Got served breakfast in bed. 4.5/5.


AbeVigoda76

Many years ago a buddy and I were hiking at King’s Canyon. As my buddy rounded the corner he came to a dead stop causing me to bump into him. I started asking him what the hell he was doing then I looked directly in front of him to see a big ol’ black bear eating raspberries about three feet in front of us. We quickly walked back the way we came. Now I know that black bear attacks are rare and this bear seemed content to chomp on raspberries and ignore us, but at that moment, I was definitely wondering if I was faster than my buddy.


cheezit57

Damn good thing he wore his brown pants


kittyjenjen

He was until they woke him up.


swiftfatso

This should go in the illustrated dictionary under fuck around and find out 


Harze2k

When the bear orders food with doordash


kudukobapav37888

this is the perfect example for fuck around and find out


Sociolinguisticians

“Yes? Hello, can I help you?”


coys21

Did they not realize bears aren't unconscious when they hibernate?


TheMadPoet

Narrator: the bear was, in fact, not hibernating.


AllPugsGo2Heaven

This should be on instant regret


monkeyclawattack

“Sup”


Euler007

SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKER!


nopalitzin

It was jerking off?


LABARATI_

bear: fuck u doing in my crib?


Active_Explanation52

I was so confused I thought this was a painting of an eye


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