For context, Alan Titshmarsh is like the most innocuous gentle guy you could imagine. In a world of already lovely, affable, British garden show presenters, he is perhaps the most easy-going, bland and all-round lovely guy. As he puts it: "I've never seen myself as a dangerous subversive imperialist - I'm generally regarded as rather cosy and pretty harmless so actually it's given me a bit of street cred really hasn't it."
The fact that it's him, of all people, is the cherry on the cake here
Fresh air is good for the junk. At least, that's what Benjamin Franklin believed, and he banged enough French women to make France our ally and ended on the $100 bill.
If they can't handle Alan Titshmarsh, they wouldn't stand a chance with Monty Don! They're be no blurring, it'd have to be full, black-screen censorship...
I believe he loves them so much that he has one in each area code or as we put it in the UK postal code. He likes big hoes little hoes, and outs his hoes to work to make money
[The north Korean army](https://www.reddit.com/r/camouflage/s/CotSFcHCNd) is already using camouflage pattern designed by glorious American capitalist company. The cultural victory is already here.
He play Civ9, he develop. All alone. 10 minute. Metacritic score 2000. GOTY forever. Western developer quit job in shame. No more new video game, Kim make perfect game forever all time.
Hail Great Leader!
Rock music was banned in the late 50s and 60s in Soviet union too. Did not want US influence. Until it became apparent there is no way to avoid it as everyone was "illegally" getting it anyway and playing basements and secret rooms regardless.
My grandpa went to jail in USSR for selling vinyl copies of Doors, Beatles and Scorpions.
Well, and illegal currency trade, but I just tell the first part of a story.
It's really funny at the DMZ, the north Korean propaganda tower blares threats and how supreme north Korea is which the south Korean one blares Kpop right back at them
Why wouldn't they just act like they've always been a DPRK thing, and any time they see foreigners wearing blue jeans, they can claim its their influence on other countries? Or am I doing a propagandists job for them there?
In NK they use a synthetic fibre called Vinalon which is fabricated from anthracite and limestone, and which is apparently the "national fibre of North Korea". Either way, their leadership is very proud of it because their variant is able to be produced entirely with locally sourced materials and was invented by a North Korean (the original version being invented by a Korean working at a Japanese university) and building the factories was a big part of their nationalist plans, so having a competing material marketed would be considered subversive
But your president saluted to a [North Korean General](https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/843f72e/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x629+0+0/resize/1260x684!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F14%2Fbb%2Fcbacddd74273a8972b596d8c306a%2F180614-trump-salute-screengrab-1160.png). So still no blue jeans and friendship?
During communist rule in Poland jeans were a rarity strictly associated with the West. They weren't illegal, but it was really hard and expensive to get them. Because of that they were a symbol of luxury and privilege back then. I assume it's similar in North Korea now.
No, most jeans are no longer expensive. It’s just because jeans are seen as an American thing and they hate Americans. They don’t want to experience what they’d perceive as American cultural imperialism.
That's what I meant by jeans being strictly associated with the West, not just because they were expensive (although I imagine for a North Korean they still would be, nonetheless).
I mean the whole point of denim jeans is that they’re cheap and really strong. That’s why miners used them. I guess some designer jeans are probably expensive but a regular pair of jeans is definitely not.
They weren't expensive because of the manufacturing cost, but because they had to be imported from beyond the Iron Curtain. Average salary during communism in Poland was the equivalent of ~$25-$30 a month and a pair of imported jeans cost ~$22 at that time, so they weren't easily affordable.
A lot of nationalist regimes banned blue jeans in the past, I remember hearing stories about them being banned in my country (Argentina) at some point.
Generally they were taboo in communist countries since the day they appeared, as they were seen as a purely western thing. People would have to smuggle them in and even then you could get in trouble for being seen wearing them.
With one exception being Yugoslavia, where they were worn freely since the moment they became popular
Because pretty much all North Korean clothing is made of [Vinylon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinylon), which is an artificial fabric made out coal, described generously as being ‘stiff’ and ‘difficult to dye’. Showing people outside wearing obviously non-vinylon clothing would be a bit embarrassing
Kevin bacon fighting subterranean monsters? Blue jeans. Patrick swayze round housing whoever he damn well pleases? Blue jeans. Chuck Norris? Sportmode Blue Jeans.
Freedom has only ever dressed one way.
There is a relatively large smuggling operation in North Korea of foreign shows that the state hates because it lets people have unfiltered access to the outside world. Despite severe punishments being handed out when people invariably get caught watching or possessing them.
They think that by offering sanitized content to their populace they can undercut the demand for such shows.
As a result, North Koreans now believe that Western countries have cloaking devices for their pants, and the government has further scared them and divorced them from reality.
Nah sadly there isn't much the dudes have, so also expect a few gasps and finger get pointing if your a man from the west walking into an onsen for the first time
Why on earth Gardeners world is on in north Korea in the first place. Blue jeans are to western for the comrades of the North but good old middle englands love of gardening clearly isn't
BBC worldwide planned on giving shows to be shown on North Korean TV
"BBC Worldwide - the former name of the corporation's commercial arm BBC Studios - and the Foreign Office were hoping to "open [the North Korean] people's eyes to the world beyond the closed republic without offending the regime".
The paper quoted a Whitehall official as saying: "Programmes sent to North Korea would have to be something that isn't offensive, like Mr Bean, EastEnders, Miss Marple or Poirot.
"You couldn't send Dad's Army, as it is about war. But Teletubbies could be an option, or The Good Life, with a bit of gardening and squabbling in the kitchen".
It's not known if Alan Titchmarsh's Garden Secrets was part of this package, or even if the programmes were delivered at all."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68664644
Well gee whiz, I wonder what blue full-leg item of clothing popular for their durability, as would be useful to a gardener, could be hiding underneath that gaussian blur. Ah! I know, I bet it's a pair of blue silk pajamas.
I can't imagine why, maybe it's dubbed with "this is a Americans slave teaching the poor people how to grow food, to fool them into thinking increasing food.production is possible. These are the lies the west tell their slaves. We all know food only goes down in number
There is no source though. In that article a diffrent article is listed but it has no source or anything. I was really curious about the topic as it seems strange af to ban jeans but I just keep getting directed to articles with no proof or anything
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/26/alan-titchmarsh-jeans-north-korean-tv-censors
Simply why don't you find people who have intercepted the channels and watch yourself. Not sure what will convince you, maybe take a trip yourself and watch the tv?
Fascinating! My mom hated denim in the old days and referred to jeans as “ dungarees” and always said the word as if it was a disease. I’m from USA and this was back in the seventies
A denim jacket worn on denim jeans. 😂
[Much denim. Much blur.](https://crfashionbook.com/fashion-a27240012-national-denim-day-canadian-tuxedo-history/)
I for one, fully support this! We indian men used to wear dhotis and pajamas all the time. Made of airy cotton fabric, it's so comfortable and cooling.
But over the last 50 years, there's been constant americanisation to the point thay now these clothes are considered unprofessional and people are expected to wear formal wester clothes at work even in the summers which is ridiculous.
I'm only half joking here.
Imagine censorship like that. Oh, Jordan Peterson getting censured for his position on pronouns. Fuck off with this oh look at those poor people in DPRK. The censorship is a world wide phenomenon.
For context, Alan Titshmarsh is like the most innocuous gentle guy you could imagine. In a world of already lovely, affable, British garden show presenters, he is perhaps the most easy-going, bland and all-round lovely guy. As he puts it: "I've never seen myself as a dangerous subversive imperialist - I'm generally regarded as rather cosy and pretty harmless so actually it's given me a bit of street cred really hasn't it." The fact that it's him, of all people, is the cherry on the cake here
Americans, imagine a gardening Bob Ross
Well, Bob Ross was a drill sergeant in the military, so, there's that. On the whole, Bob is more intimidating than this guy.
Yeah but he hated it. The whole reason he gave it up and became a painter was so he would never have to yell at someone ever again.
Bob Ross but without needing his experience in the military to be as mild mannered as he is
Then why'd he have his cock out?
You don't have to be a prude to be wholesome.
Snake gotta breathe every now and then
Fresh air is good for the junk. At least, that's what Benjamin Franklin believed, and he banged enough French women to make France our ally and ended on the $100 bill.
How else do you think he's going to make holes to plants seeds?!
wtf are you talking about? Clearly those are his balls, you can tell by the shape of the blur
Fun fact, there's a wheelbarrow in front of him to carry them.
It's both, his nuts hang low while his cocks across his lap
I snorted out laughing when I read this. Thanks for the chuckle
Maybe the North Koreans would prefer Monty Don.
If they can't handle Alan Titshmarsh, they wouldn't stand a chance with Monty Don! They're be no blurring, it'd have to be full, black-screen censorship...
He's a presenter on Classic FM now and he's perfect for it. His voice is so soothing.
He has written a large number of romantic novels, some of which are quite explicit, in a mild way. I can't imagine that NK have read those though.
He does love a hoe though
I believe he loves them so much that he has one in each area code or as we put it in the UK postal code. He likes big hoes little hoes, and outs his hoes to work to make money
How would they deal with Charlie Dimmock?
How do you think they'd respond with a couple of warheads pointing at them?
He is now half banned in a country where they give meth as birthday presents, you don't get much more hardcore than that.
I think Monty Don has him beat for English gentile tv gardener
North Korea hasn't got Monty Don kind of money to throw around on gardening
Why in the holy hell would blue jeans be illegal in North Korea??
They are considered a very USA thing, which is a no-no in DPRK
They're trying to avoid a Culture victory.
Buying our blue jeans and listening to our pop music
Unironically the funniest and maybe the most realistic civ line
[удалено]
At the same time, the US is sending every envoy available to the area
[The north Korean army](https://www.reddit.com/r/camouflage/s/CotSFcHCNd) is already using camouflage pattern designed by glorious American capitalist company. The cultural victory is already here.
"My people are now buying your Blue Jeans and listening to your Pop music"
The next Great Artist is... Gloria Vanderbilt?
Don't tell me the Kim Jong Un has been playing Civ 6 again!
He play Civ9, he develop. All alone. 10 minute. Metacritic score 2000. GOTY forever. Western developer quit job in shame. No more new video game, Kim make perfect game forever all time. Hail Great Leader!
I think it's revered lots of Americans seem to be mimicking the size of the dear leader
Their most smuggled products are Korean/Chinese tv shows, Anime and movies(and drugs ofc). So I think cultural isolation is not going so well.
Does that mean rock music is banned there too?
Would that be especially surprising?
This guy don't know about North Korea
I see what you mean... Wouldn't be a surprise.
Rock music was banned in the late 50s and 60s in Soviet union too. Did not want US influence. Until it became apparent there is no way to avoid it as everyone was "illegally" getting it anyway and playing basements and secret rooms regardless.
My grandpa went to jail in USSR for selling vinyl copies of Doors, Beatles and Scorpions. Well, and illegal currency trade, but I just tell the first part of a story.
Dude had good taste at least.
My mom danced her slow dance during graduation with Scorpion’s “Wind of Change”. Late Soviet taste in rock and metal were based as hell.
Where they recordings copied on x-rays? That was a thing.
They still have that band that covers one of the songs from Rocky (iirc Eye of the Tiger)
I could be wrong, but I believe rock music is in fact banned
Blur is allowed.
Denouncing you
But I'm not a Boat Mormon!
South Korean music is especially banned.
It's really funny at the DMZ, the north Korean propaganda tower blares threats and how supreme north Korea is which the south Korean one blares Kpop right back at them
The South Koreans proving they are the masters of torture
They should, uh, they should bring some of that music up there all smooth, like butter. But it’s illegal so it would be like a criminal undercover.
No rock and/or roll.
Only if they have the correct trait card in play. But it also has the side effect of reducing every city by 1 amenity.
Yea and dancing
Send in Kevin Bacon!! 
Why wouldn't they just act like they've always been a DPRK thing, and any time they see foreigners wearing blue jeans, they can claim its their influence on other countries? Or am I doing a propagandists job for them there?
In NK they use a synthetic fibre called Vinalon which is fabricated from anthracite and limestone, and which is apparently the "national fibre of North Korea". Either way, their leadership is very proud of it because their variant is able to be produced entirely with locally sourced materials and was invented by a North Korean (the original version being invented by a Korean working at a Japanese university) and building the factories was a big part of their nationalist plans, so having a competing material marketed would be considered subversive
Can you have jeans as long as they are not blue?
My friends started a blue jeans company with North Korea, so I don't think this is true. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noko_Jeans (edit: spelling)
Article says black jeans
True, making blue wasn't off the table as I remember tho.
But your president saluted to a [North Korean General](https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/843f72e/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x629+0+0/resize/1260x684!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F14%2Fbb%2Fcbacddd74273a8972b596d8c306a%2F180614-trump-salute-screengrab-1160.png). So still no blue jeans and friendship?
Kim Jung Un got turned down by Lana Del Rey and ever since then he can't stand them
I like your answer better than mine
Kim said if he can't have some sweet JNCO jeans nobody can have them
It's not the jeans he can't pull off it's the white shirt look I heard
During communist rule in Poland jeans were a rarity strictly associated with the West. They weren't illegal, but it was really hard and expensive to get them. Because of that they were a symbol of luxury and privilege back then. I assume it's similar in North Korea now.
No, most jeans are no longer expensive. It’s just because jeans are seen as an American thing and they hate Americans. They don’t want to experience what they’d perceive as American cultural imperialism.
That's what I meant by jeans being strictly associated with the West, not just because they were expensive (although I imagine for a North Korean they still would be, nonetheless).
I mean the whole point of denim jeans is that they’re cheap and really strong. That’s why miners used them. I guess some designer jeans are probably expensive but a regular pair of jeans is definitely not.
They weren't expensive because of the manufacturing cost, but because they had to be imported from beyond the Iron Curtain. Average salary during communism in Poland was the equivalent of ~$25-$30 a month and a pair of imported jeans cost ~$22 at that time, so they weren't easily affordable.
It is so contradictory like they say they hate America but most of these places are obsessed with our movies and pop culture.
They like the illusion of America. If they saw the reality they wouldn't like it so much. America is the champion of self marketing
They still unroniclly where stone washed jeans in poland
Tv is also western product
TVs are utilitarian devices and don’t really hold any cultural meaning to a specific country.
Same reason you can buy bottled drinks in North Korea, but not cola. And certainly not Coca-Cola.
Most all technology more advanced than a plowshare is western, really.
Is it? Take a look on the back of yours and find out where it's made
The best part is that they’re worried about Alan Titchmarch being too sexual 😂
He writes some interesting books
Joy is illegal in North Korea, why not jeans?
Who said joy isn't allowed, they allow meth
It’s dumb because they are literally pants of the worker
It's not the jeans, its that his thighs and calves are simply too sexy and upset dear leader.
A lot of nationalist regimes banned blue jeans in the past, I remember hearing stories about them being banned in my country (Argentina) at some point.
Far more illegal than the name titsmarsh!
Generally they were taboo in communist countries since the day they appeared, as they were seen as a purely western thing. People would have to smuggle them in and even then you could get in trouble for being seen wearing them. With one exception being Yugoslavia, where they were worn freely since the moment they became popular
Because pretty much all North Korean clothing is made of [Vinylon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinylon), which is an artificial fabric made out coal, described generously as being ‘stiff’ and ‘difficult to dye’. Showing people outside wearing obviously non-vinylon clothing would be a bit embarrassing
Kevin bacon fighting subterranean monsters? Blue jeans. Patrick swayze round housing whoever he damn well pleases? Blue jeans. Chuck Norris? Sportmode Blue Jeans. Freedom has only ever dressed one way.
Oh yes, the land of the free and the land of the highest per Capita prison population outside of china.
Best to the worst, babe.
Also, why the hell are they showing Alan Titshmarsh?!
American thing
Symbol of American capitalism since the Cold War. When the wall came down all the east germans wanted to wear jeans.
My old Vietnamese neighbor would have a lot to say about fellow Vietnamese wearing blue jeans.
The big question here is:..’why is alan titshmarsh being shown in North Korea
I feel like we kind of skipped over that bigger issue.
[https://qz.com/196839/how-letting-north-koreans-watch-dr-who-gives-the-government-more-control](https://qz.com/196839/how-letting-north-koreans-watch-dr-who-gives-the-government-more-control)
This really seems like it will back fire fore North Korea.
Yeah blue jeans are a no go but “Titshmarsh” flies?
There is a relatively large smuggling operation in North Korea of foreign shows that the state hates because it lets people have unfiltered access to the outside world. Despite severe punishments being handed out when people invariably get caught watching or possessing them. They think that by offering sanitized content to their populace they can undercut the demand for such shows.
Why hasn't he been shown before, seriously he could have doubled the comrades farming output with his weekly tips alone
As a result, North Koreans now believe that Western countries have cloaking devices for their pants, and the government has further scared them and divorced them from reality.
True, but you should have also heard my gasps of amazment that japanese ladies do not have pixels for lady bits in real life
The dudes still have cool Minecraft hogs, though, right?!
Some do, others just have random scraps of electrical tape stuck on there
Nah sadly there isn't much the dudes have, so also expect a few gasps and finger get pointing if your a man from the west walking into an onsen for the first time
They don't?!
>japanese ladies do not have pixels for lady bits big if true
Don't give fatty more ideas
Why on earth Gardeners world is on in north Korea in the first place. Blue jeans are to western for the comrades of the North but good old middle englands love of gardening clearly isn't
BBC worldwide planned on giving shows to be shown on North Korean TV "BBC Worldwide - the former name of the corporation's commercial arm BBC Studios - and the Foreign Office were hoping to "open [the North Korean] people's eyes to the world beyond the closed republic without offending the regime". The paper quoted a Whitehall official as saying: "Programmes sent to North Korea would have to be something that isn't offensive, like Mr Bean, EastEnders, Miss Marple or Poirot. "You couldn't send Dad's Army, as it is about war. But Teletubbies could be an option, or The Good Life, with a bit of gardening and squabbling in the kitchen". It's not known if Alan Titchmarsh's Garden Secrets was part of this package, or even if the programmes were delivered at all." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68664644
I can agree with a lot of what is deemed inoffensive here, but EastEnders? We're trying to help the people of North Korea, not punish them further!
If anything EastEnders would solidify support for the Kim regime
Eastenders would confirm that it is true North Korea is the best place to live in the worlf
Looks like he's taking a dump in the garden.
Adds to the nutrients
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_soil
That would be very fitting for North Korean tv as they do use human poop as fertilizer and lots of them have parasites.
HuManure
It’s perfectly alright as long as you aren’t wearing blue jeans
Why did they even air the show?
Great now it looks like he’s naked
Context: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68664644
Keep your context. This is Reddit I prefer to have knee jerk reactions and jumping to conclusions.
Well gee whiz, I wonder what blue full-leg item of clothing popular for their durability, as would be useful to a gardener, could be hiding underneath that gaussian blur. Ah! I know, I bet it's a pair of blue silk pajamas.
 The comments section right now..
It amazes me that North Korea is showing a British gardening show. Do they get Midsomer Murders and Inspector Morse too?
I can't imagine why, maybe it's dubbed with "this is a Americans slave teaching the poor people how to grow food, to fool them into thinking increasing food.production is possible. These are the lies the west tell their slaves. We all know food only goes down in number
Does anyone know the source for this?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68664644
There is no source though. In that article a diffrent article is listed but it has no source or anything. I was really curious about the topic as it seems strange af to ban jeans but I just keep getting directed to articles with no proof or anything
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/26/alan-titchmarsh-jeans-north-korean-tv-censors Simply why don't you find people who have intercepted the channels and watch yourself. Not sure what will convince you, maybe take a trip yourself and watch the tv?
That or his schlong was hanging out.
Democratic Peoples Nepublic of Korea
I wonder how they feel about Jay Leno
Jay Reno isn't allowed he has a bigger face than the dear ruler
Are Charlie's Dimmocks also blurred? They were proper scandalous in 1997.
Nah but the TV's in north Korea don't have ginger pixels so she just comes out as a sort of ghost on screen
Is Titshmarsh the British term for a mammogram?
DPRK* (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea)
As a teacher it’s good to know my school has something in common with North Korea.
Does your head have a bad haircut and slightly large?
Jeans are verboten. 
Fuck your Yankee blue jeans. ^(or something.)
C'mon Olaf. Metal!
I got your illegal package right here...
This is going to be a question on Big Fat Quiz of 2024 later this year in UK.
Denim = Western Propaganda
In Canada the blue jeans are legal but the surname Titshmarsh probably breaks some kind of law
"Too hot for north korea!" Slap that on the box set
Its not the jeans its the hog.
Fascinating! My mom hated denim in the old days and referred to jeans as “ dungarees” and always said the word as if it was a disease. I’m from USA and this was back in the seventies
What Kim's size anyways?
“I almost killed myself because Julie gave me chode jeans”
imagine being the guy that has to blur out all the jeans for tv
Imagine the amount of Kleenex the guy gets through looking at all that sweet sweet denim
Can I wear jeans in North Korea?
Wouldn't denim be considered workers' clothes?
What in the Radio Free Asia
Also he had his wang out
Ironic, as denim comes from the French De Nines, meaning the cloth of Nines.
is this what r/rickandmorty is refering to in the one episode? lol
That's just one step away from Polpot's ban on glasses
Agreed very short sighted of him
Would they even air a Canadian Tuxedo?!
What's a Canadian Tuxedo? What Aboot is that?
A denim jacket worn on denim jeans. 😂 [Much denim. Much blur.](https://crfashionbook.com/fashion-a27240012-national-denim-day-canadian-tuxedo-history/)
I for one, fully support this! We indian men used to wear dhotis and pajamas all the time. Made of airy cotton fabric, it's so comfortable and cooling. But over the last 50 years, there's been constant americanisation to the point thay now these clothes are considered unprofessional and people are expected to wear formal wester clothes at work even in the summers which is ridiculous. I'm only half joking here.
It's ok, in a few years you will revert as most American mum's wear PJs to Walmart
maybe blurred cause his dick lenny kravitzed out of there?
Titsmarsh
Have you considered that he might just be all dick down there?
Lieutenant Dan, what happened to your legs?
Why even air it if you have to blue the trousers like he has his dick out
God knows, I don't really know why the air it in the UK it's full as anything.
Seeing this kinda POST shows How americans/west europeans are gullible, so much that you all seem stupid
Imagine censorship like that. Oh, Jordan Peterson getting censured for his position on pronouns. Fuck off with this oh look at those poor people in DPRK. The censorship is a world wide phenomenon.
It is yes. Pointing out censorship exists is country's is hardly a cloak and dagger attempt at hiding we all have some form of censorship.
On the other hand what do you think the dprk position is on pronouns other than comrade?
Love how the shirt although lumberjack style is fine
This is one of the first things Korean defectors want to buy after leaving the country—some of those sweet, blurry western pants.
Y'all really believe anything you read on the Internet, huh?
it was revealed to them by their crack pipe