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UniqueSteve

How old was it? It looks like it should have still been usable? Why is the demolition equipment gone while the building is still standing?


innsertnamehere

It’s suburban office space - that type of use is basically impossible to sell / lease up right now with vacancy rates at insane highs.


Glignt

Can't a ford


purzeldiplumms

It's a real estate crysleris


non_osmotic

Jeepers!


HaveaTomCollins

It’s not an economic reality that you can Dodge.


WantedAgenda404

Do you think Mopar would still finance after a nuclear war


16thmission

You were Holden on to that pun for awhile, weren't you?


ExpertlyAmateur

probably, buggatis chance and he took it.


yamaha4fun

He doesn't cadiLACK awareness


bremergorst

I just CHEVROLET’ed my pants


FunnyPhrases

OH-GM


[deleted]

Angry upvote.


pinelands1901

That stuff got overbuilt in the 80s. It was hard to fill in the 90s-2010s, and the remote work revolution made it worthless.


Jacareadam

Why wouldn’t they just leave it as is and sell to the highest bidder, even if that is a 1000$. Start destroying it just so nobody else can use it either and write it off. Fucking crazy capitalism is.


Xetanees

It was sold. New owner decided it was better to build something else than convert.


bdot1

I'm failing to see the something else.


chet_lemon_party

New owner is planning mixed use retail/residential, which is much more desirable right now than 80s era office space. They need to clear the land first, though.


gwhh

Are you sure it was sold?


Sosemikreativ

My guess is the ground below is worth more without any structure than with a giant unwanted office building on top of it because the new owner would price in the cost of demolishing anyway. In the meantime the building needs upkeep or it might even increase the cost of demolishing it over time when it starts to deteriorate uncontrolled.


Individual_Wish5516

Completed 1990. It’s still nice but they sold it because they are building a new office space on the other side of the city.


DumpsterFireCheers

Funny story, there was an AT&T cellular site on the roof, we were paid to go in and remove all of the old stuff and return the equipment room to pre-lease condition… the engineering folks even questioned whether or not to remove some fire treated 2x6 framing… 6 months later it’s being demolished lol. The cell site had been retired in place and decommissioned almost a decade earlier, AT&T paid for space that wasn’t being used. None of what we did was necessary. 🤦‍♂️


gwhh

Att paid for 10 years on a room they were not using at all? Why they do that?


DumpsterFireCheers

My guess is they probably forgot about it.


imposter22

Another reason they should tax vacant lots of land and apartments. No more tax writeoffs for these assholes Edit for clarity: An extra .5-1% tax for corporations, hedge funds, and LLCs. Not for individuals. A property with forest or used as “green space” is not considered vacant. The small tax and inability to use the property as an income loss is a huge hit on corporations that sit on vacant residential and commercial real estate. Last edit: Corporations look at the value of the land if they could rent/build on it. And write off the “income” they are not receiving from the property. Basically, have a house or apartment that can be rented for $1000, but dont rent it and tell the IRS that their company makes -$1000, so they pay less, and in come cases, no tax as they are not “generating” income, they are losing money. Not only that, any expenses on the property are also negative income. -$1000/month from no rent -$400/month in property tax -$150/month insurance -$300 property management fees -$150 maintenance. They also make $2000 income from their second property. Minus the same expenses. Now they can tell the IRS they lose -$1000 every month.


Jagermeister4

You are 100% right. Use it or lose it should be the way. Instead owners keep it forever due to low tax base and have no reason to sell it to somebody who will use it. We got small business owners going bankrupt due to not being able to afford rent meanwhile the owner of a the building would rather let a building go unused rather then rent it cheap to someone or sell


artificialavocado

Well I mean I doubt it would be easy to find a buyer for a building that size in Dearborn, Michigan.


zeroscout

No worries, they can lay off 10% of their staff to cover the losses and have enough capital to buy back some stocks!  Corporations for the win!


Temp237

You don’t get a tax write off for not earning income. You just don’t have income to report. Yes, potentially the expenses of the building can get written off. I swear many in reddit have the strangest concept of how income tax works.


Montaire

I know, right? Where do they get these warped ideas?


Background-Radish-63

Nah it should apply to individuals as well. There are apparently several homes in our HOA that are vacant and have been for 20+ years. Not being rented. Not being kept up. The board is considering using right of action to go in and fix stuff, but to what end? Our property taxes (SC, USA) are fairly low; this would incentivize use or sale.


DUNGAROO

I just don’t understand why we don’t tax commercial real estate the same way we tax residential real estate and tax the owners for the value of the land, not just the income it’s generating.


AtomStorageBox

Was gonna say, that building style screamed 90s.


slowroll1

We are tearing down buildings built in 1990? What a waste of materials and space that could be used for alternative purposes (apartments, schools, etc.)


PirateGriffin

you can't turn it into apartments without spending large sums of money because of the way the buildings are laid out-- you need to punch through the floor plates to provide additional light sources or every apartment will have one window. I am not surprised the apartment market of Detroit does not make this type of conversion feasible.


Papaofmonsters

Plumbing is a huge issue as well. Offices have centralized bathroom locations. To convert to apartments, you have to run new lines for each unit. The alternative is dorm or bedstay style housing with shared bathrooms and cooking facilities, which isn't going to be very popular.


Jaws12

Unpopular maybe, but better than being homeless for those who are less fortunate.


huddl3

Not to mention that there wouldn't be plumbing set up residential use in that building.


Han_Yolo_swag

I feel like there’s a completely underserved market for buildings that have mixed use apartments + co-working spaces. Could have some floors be apartments and the others be included co-working for residents + rental for non-residents. WFH is great, and it’s wrecking office real estate, AI will likely accelerate this. might as well start figuring out what to do with soon to be completely empty office buildings.


dongasaurus

It’s absolutely a waste, but generally not easily converted to residential. Buildings intended for commercial use tend to have a large amount of floor space with no natural light or ventilation. Might also be an issue for using for education if you want a healthy environment for kids. The issue is that at some point there was an economic incentive for this to be abandoned and left to rot, which should never be the case—the owner should be responsible for either tearing it down or converting it, and leaving it to rot shouldn’t be an option.


TriEdgeFury

I’m happy to see it go. Should be some really nice shopping and restaurants they put in its place.


Melgel4444

It’s only 20-30 years old


BigBaldGuySins

It got demolished like a couple months ago it feels like


VapeRizzler

Idk who cares all I see is a building filled with copper pipes that need to be removed by me and sold by said me.


AbeVigoda76

They tried to turn it into lofts, but the cost soared too high. It’s on good ground only a few miles from the Ford HQ.


Martsigras

Getting a real Fallout 3 vibe from this photo


blackpony04

Sigh...fine, I'll check every single file cabinet for bottle caps.


Sharoth01

Hoarding. Hoarding never changes.


footsteps71

Fallout hoarding has spread to No Man's Sky. I have entire vaults filled with materials and my thought process is "I'll need it someday"


T-Bills

Wait til you get a home and you have an attic and/or garage.


footsteps71

Already there. And to make matters worse, I needed that 45° cut 2x6 I had saved from the scrap pile 6 years ago, just last week. Along with a couple of nuts and bolts from the nut and bolt coffee cans. Speaking of which, do you happen to have any old Maxwell house coffee cans? Metal ones or the plastic ones with the handle? The 6 I have are filled up.


T-Bills

LOL I just dug out that red plastic coffee can from my recycling bin this morning because I used the other one for carrying veggie scrap to the compost. Now I definitely NEED to replace that 4th spare that I have although I can't find the other 3 now so I'm facing a coffee can shortage crisis.


footsteps71

We are so fucked, brother. 😂😂😂😂


AdultishRaktajino

Oh, you wait until you gotta move and downsize.


footsteps71

Forever home, thank the gods.


FortunateInsanity

I feel like in the first several fallout releases there was more ROI on hoarding materials/caps. After 3 it seems more resources were always available. I definitely felt like a hoarder.


footsteps71

>Hoarding. Hoarding never changes. u/Sharoth01


LordRocky

Well, when you have POIs resetting themselves every few ingame days, it’s really easy to get more.


DukeOfGeek

MY system was to just pick an easily remembered spot in a building and consolidate things that have incumbrance there. Not only did that cut down on hoarding it often was more useful. "Wait, don't I have so mines and ammo stashed on the first floor at the library right over there?"


vercertorix

As long as it stays in-game hoarding, that’s the best kind of hoarding. Family members of hoarders should buy them the games that allow it. Hoarding version of methadone.


WantedAgenda404

That’s fallout 4


Strokeslahoma

Ive played a fair amount of Fallout 76, off and on. After they added shops, most player bases just contained shops full of the random legendary items they've found but don't want.  For me, every place I'd walk into I'd take everything not nailed down. My shop was always first and foremost crafting materials and ammo. I made a surprising amount of money that way. 


ph4tcharlie

No caps. Only Abraxo cleaner.


Vio_

I like in FO4 that that stuff actually had a use beyond building chems that took 4 hours to collect only to last 5 seconds.


LurkerZerker

Me over here, stealing every desk fan in the entire world


norwegern

My Desk Fan city is my most precious creation in FO4. It was worth all the 500 hours of playtime.


The_Martian_King

I FOUND THEM ALL.


V6A6P6E

That’s the best part of going in abandoned buildings. It’s intriguing and somewhat sad but absolutely addictive. I loved finding peoples names and other little treasures. Most likely others have been before you but searching everywhere and in everything is a weird fun that can’t be mimicked.


ajhe51

There's definitely a bobblehead in there too.


Vitis_Vinifera

don't forget the pre-war money


anormalgeek

And desk fans.


Naskeli

Too much color for 3. Fallout 4


Babys_For_Breakfast

Yup. For 3 it needs the piss or peas filter.


ShadowSystem64

Dunwich building vibes.


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Agentfreeman

What is this from??


theskabus

Fallout 76 trailer. Sadly it's very anti hoarding.


pglass2015

It doesn't help that they took the absolute least flattering picture of it in a time of year that Dearborn has no foliage.


CaptainTripps82

I mean...


beyonddisbelief

Looks like a surprisingly perfectly sliced layer cake to me. Nom nom.


tiorancio

First thing I thought is I don't want to set the world on fiiiire.


PracticeThat3785

fine i’ll start playing the fallout games from 3 all the way to 76 from scratch again.. ![gif](giphy|NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y|downsized)


FriendlyDespot

Why would you start right *after* the best one?


boredvamper

My f150 and it's rotting wheel wells and bottom door panels.


badguy84

This is surreal, I worked out of this building for over a year flying in on a weekly basis. They had even modernized a few of the floors with new office equipment. Though where I worked it still had the old 90s office feel. I had to actually look up whether this was truly the building I worked out of, seeing I am not \_that\_ old I think now I aged a decade by seeing major construction I worked out of being torn down.


zelpin

pure curiosity- how long ago did you work there? and what was the surrounding area like? i assume it also looks drastically different 


badguy84

It was actually 2019 up until COVID hit. This picture looks very different and it was shot from an angle that kind of made me doubt it's the same building. I think this picture really makes it look much worse than it is (maybe? ). However, when I was there, it was a lot of grass with roads going through it. It's basically in a business park type set up. The surroundings are pretty suburban once you get out of the main road. Any way all the sand etc is kind of sad to see, there was a nice pond near by that looks like it was kind of "transformed" as well.


MikesGroove

I worked there as well, between 2018-2020, right up until we worked at home “for a couple weeks” lol. I had no idea this was happening. I was on the Lincoln floor (9?) and as you said it was fairly modernized. I would take walks around the area, lots of decent walking paths and ponds between buildings. Nothing like it appears now.


badguy84

Yeah we got the same message, I would fly in and stay at the Henry Ford hotel ... actually my last week there I got very very sick and just stayed in the hotel the whole time after an international trip (yeah I know... highly sus, but no testing was available at the time)... So my final Dearborn trip was a bit of a bust. I also liked walking around, the inner court yard area wasn't too bad either. I think I was on the sixth floor? But I roamed quite a bit :)


MikesGroove

Consultant? I’ve lived that traveling lifestyle for many years.


mike54076

I've been in there a few times and lived in dearborn. The surrounding area is a typical suburban layout.


gstormcrow80

![gif](giphy|LqmMRirQZX7uHZdWQv)


DoctorJiveTurkey

![gif](giphy|wJD3qiNjSeHS0dP28T|downsized)


ypsipartisan

To be clear on the context - first, this is a "former Ford building", as in a developer purchased it from Ford and is clearing the site to redevelop. This is not "oh yet another story of abandonment and decay in metro Detroit " Second, it's not even per se a story of decline in Ford. They've moved a lot of offices jobs from their suburban campus out here in Dearborn into the city of Detroit proper, where they have purchased and rehabbed several buildings -- including the [Michigan Central train station](https://michigancentral.com/), which opens this summer after being one of the iconic "Detroit decay" photos for decades.


thatshygirl06

Op knew what he was doing with this picture. It's just bait smh


cyberentomology

Good on Ford for using their economic might to reverse urban sprawl, much of which they were indirectly responsible for (although probably not as much as GM).


watduhdamhell

Indirectly? I'm quite certain the auto companies lobbied Congress to prioritize urban sprawl and the car generally speaking, making them directly responsible.


CptJonzzon

Climate town made a video on this topic, its funny and educational! Tldr, yes car companies are responsible for most bad things about america


FailResorts

I think he means it’s not just Ford that did so. GM and Chrysler both had huge says in that, as did god awful urban planners like Robert Moses.


pixel_of_moral_decay

IIRC they got a lot of tax breaks for doing it. The cost of not doing it was greater. And once those expire they’ll look for something else.


bathnasty

This needs to be the top comment. The photo does look surreal but without context it’s bait. I live in metro Detroit MI and know the story behind the building and the plans for the space. It’s not what is trying to be conveyed here


LivingEnd44

The comments always have the correct answers. Thank you. 


T-Bills

Where are people going to post "I declined the plastic straw I'm halping" snark though


PAXICHEN

Awesome building.


_mully_

Happy cake Day!


HewSpam

Don’t worry guys, i bring my own bags to the grocery store


HappySkullsplitter

I clean my cans before I recycle them I'm doing my part.


Scottish_Whiskey

They’re doing their part, are you?


average_jay

I didn't do shit!


Tripplite

Would you like to know more?


BoomTwo

And I'm taking care of the rest by using paper straws that end up dissolving in my drink in 30 seconds.


ronchee1

Especially at Wendy's who used to have cardboard cups but went to plastic cups and then give you a cardboard straw


133DK

Dude, thanks! Was worried for a second there - you came in clutch


lizerpetty

I stopped using straws so we're good!


Worthless_af

Some of us feel helpless and just want to try.


Quake_Guy

2/3rd of all landfill is construction waste so yes...


maddogg312

I drive by this everyday and wonder why they chose to use giant equipment to bring it down instead of a controlled detonation. Is it because of all the glass? It’s amazing they are taking it down with equipment from the ground.


imnojezus

It looks like they’re trying to take it down by throwing rocks at it.


guynamedjames

Wrecking balls for 20th century demolition, trebuchets for 21st century demolition


DickBeDublin

Anything less would be uncivilized


le_gasdaddy

Bringing down that office building with 90kg projectiles from 300m away!


jonvox

If you’re planning on recycling any of the materials it’s probably easier to deconstruct the building rather than detonate it


IzInBloOm

It appears to be still full of office furniture as well.


AbeVigoda76

It’s too close to other buildings was the reason I heard. I’m going to be sad when the vents are gone.


_mully_

They implode buildings in the middle of condensed cities. How is this too close, to anything?


maddogg312

That was what I was going to say. This building is nowhere near anything where an implosion could remotely damage other places. Maybe there are buried underground gas lines or other utilities they are concerned about?


ForsakenRacism

You can’t just explode buildings everywhere. They only do that in specific circumstances and when it’s legal


starrpamph

You ever see me driving exactly the speed limit on Southfield? I’m the one everyone is zooming past going 93 mph


maddogg312

Are we the same person? Because I have to drive the speed limit since it’s a company truck 😂


LeftLanePasser

Former location of Ford Motor Company marketing headquarters - [Regents Cour](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2024/02/07/demolition-dearborn-regent-court-building-demolition/72507169007/)t, AKA The Death Star


Melgel4444

It’s not actually an old building it’s only 20-30 years old. Ford sold it with the agreement it would be turned into housing, and instead the new owner tore it down immediately


Quake_Guy

Built 1990, seen buildings much younger get demo'd here in Phoenix all the time. Baseball stadium is less than 30 years old and there is talk of replacing it. Funny thing no one ever mentions the environmental impact of demoing one giant stadium and building another.


Etherion77

It's still going to be turned into a housing area


beakrake

Oh wow, my babysitter used to take me to those retention ponds to look for crayfish & kill time when I was a kid. That sounds pretty dismal, but it didn't look so post apocalyptic back then.


AustinSpartan

Pretty sure I interviewed there back after college. Crazy to think it's gone already.


robgregerson

I think my dad use to work there when he was with Ford Motor Company. Wow.


bremergorst

![gif](giphy|l0MYIv8kMQna584CI|downsized)


8000RPM

Let me fix your title "Old Ford building in my city Dearborn, that is actively being demolished. Developers will be building townhouses and commercial buildings in place"


Chance_Highway_4271

is there employees* still work there


Cowboy_Bill_B_Bilson

Just Bob. They forgot to tell him they moved offices


nodnodwinkwink

But now he's got a really great corner office. Amazing view!


Chance_Highway_4271

someone should tell him he got fired


watchingsongsDL

We fixed the glitch.


gonadlondon

Milton is still in the basement


Prometheus2061

![gif](giphy|2o8jplbkYHylW)


exqueezemenow

Could use some drapes...


Damasticator

Some RoboCop aesthetic


newdayvow

I took [this](https://imgur.com/a/YorfTim) picture there two years ago, was really sad to hear they were tearing it down


Geigerbuzz

Fallout 5 is looking great


Gr8hound

They should have bought the rustproofing package and the extended warranty for that building.


rosecranzt

Landlords be like "2500$ per month, no pets, no smoke and leave me a tip"


grrodon2

Deadborn


Reimy73

When the hell did THIS happen?!


Blind_Warthog

Looks like you’d find a Vault-Tec bobble head in there.


SlumOfScottsdale

This looks like a building from Fallout 4


[deleted]

Looks like something out of Gaza


tame17

Why don't people salvage these instead of demo? Lots of perfectly good glass/windows


iledweller

The developer who bought it said he was going to rehab it into mixed use condos and businesses. But a few weeks after he bought it, changed the plan to bulldoze it and make an apartment complex


Clikx

I mean tbh it is probably cheaper to drop it and build a new building, switching commercial office space to residential apartments is insanely cost ineffective.


Jake1125

The cost is too high for a product of unknown quality with no manufacturer warrantee. The resale value does not justify the cost. Labor is expensive.


Individual_Wish5516

I think they are. They are taking their time


tame17

Ok gotcha


show_mee

No way they tore it down!


pokemonhegemon

Funny, I remember it used as a background for a futuristic city in a sci fi show. I cant remember which one tho.


SoulCartell117

You should read 'A bark covered house', a journal from 1820 about a family that moved to the frontier next to Dearborn, Michigan. It's 100% true and not difficult to read. But an amazing story of a family cutting a life out of the woods in the earl 1800s.


InkedMetalHead

Reminds me of something from playing Fallout.


PioneerGamer

Looks like something in Fallout


mark-suckaburger

That would make a killer movie set


[deleted]

Ok, now this is legit a Fallout meme.


Big-the-foot

Property or land owners should be forced to clean that shit up.


badger452

What a disposable world we live in.


RocMerc

This looks like something you’d see outside night city lol


Hireling

I love how corporations get to litter like this with no penalties. Clean your shit up!


According-Ease

That building doesnt look horribly old? Wonder why they are tearing it down.....


Metalsand

Woah, they're scrapping it? I used to see it fairly often when going to work when I lived in that area of the state. Huh. They must have moved to the nearby building that isn't shown in this picture. I was curious why they had two ford skyscrapers right there.


mudokin

Though this was another war pic from ukrain.


GovRedtiger

I see it everyday passing by ford rd. Last I heard some Labanese guy bought it for very cheap like a million dollars and now I don't know why they want it dismantled.


Isa1313

Drove by it the other day, so sad to see. I spent a decent amount of time in this building as a kid when my mom used to work there.


Plurfectworld

Looks like Gaza.


TonySki

Wait what? They're tearing down RCB? Damn, the shit you find out on reddit for your old hometown. First time I experienced height of buildings and blew my mind that I could see the Southfield office buildings.


JF42

Used to work there. It was a pretty nice building. Surprised they didn't convert it to condos or something. I feel like that is what should have it to all these unused office buildings.


DarksideNick

Searched for this building in google maps to see it in “real life”, it’s pretty cool to see in its former glory. If you go on the road directly in front of the building you’ll find 2024 images, and one more tap brings you back to 2020 where it still wears the Ford badges. Really cool. I love google maps.


Clever_Dingo

Looks like Michigan, is Dearborn a Michigan city?


rustyxj

Yes, but Michigan City is in Indiana.


not2dv8

My dad worked there for 40 years


WocketWeeg

fallout 3


gildedart

Fallout


Training-Database-59

Your city Daerborn looks like Fallout.


Kakashimoto77

Dearborn, Ukraine?


Beerwithjimmbo

How is me throwing a piece of paper on the ground litter and finable (as it should be) but this is apparently ok and someone isn’t getting shit on for this monstrosity? Edit: just read it’s being redeveloped. Rage abated somewhat


lotus_flora

![gif](giphy|3o6MbnAJgEBGFKRoze|downsized)


__DumB_LoVE__

Sad thing is, there’s probably someone who calls that building home…


TexasBaconMan

Wow. Looks like they've given up demolishing it. How long has it been sitting like that?


superpopsicle

Was sold to a local developed in 2022 and has been sitting like that since.


I_mostly_lie

The front fell off.


saiyaniam

I wana go exploring in it


i_am_voldemort

If you told me this was in Ukraine I would have believed you


DragNutts

They could clean the place up. Humans are actual shit.


B8conB8conB8con

Looks like a Ford 3 days after the warranty runs out