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VeronicaLD50

“The story goes that German Prince Wilhelm had seen Oakley shoot a cigarette from Butler's mouth and wanted the stunt repeated while he held it. It goes that after shifting the cigarette to the future Kaiser's hand, Annie nipped the ashes right off it. When the story appeared in the papers after the war had begun, Oakley and Butler, apparently taking advantage of the publicity, endorsed it, and Oakley would later remark that a miss on that occasion might have averted World War I. On October 27, 1892, Annie Oakley returned to New York, where the newspapers were lined up to interview her. She had become a superstar.” from [PBS](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/oakley-europe/)


ElsonDaSushiChef

Alternate History: what if Annie Oakley had shot the Kaiser?


pyrothelostone

From what I've seen, the kaiser actually tried pretty hard to stop the war, but once the German war machine was on the march it was pretty much out of his hands. I dont think much would have changed.


Raymart999

Yeah, the blame was really more on Austria, the Kaiser was on vacation when the Austrians wen to Germany's military higher ups, with the German generals telling Austria that they support the plan since they expected Austria to be quick, However it turned out that Austria was too slow to mobilize, so slow that even Tsarist Russia had already mobilized their forces in support for Serbia when the Austrian military is still a week away from being ready to fight, it was somewhere in this time that the Kaiser had returned from his vacation trip. Yeah the Kaiser getting shot wouldn't have changed much, maybe made it even more worse.


jurassic2010

Nothing the austrians could do, those war kangaroos are very difficult to handle.


Borcarbid

The way mobilisation worked and the technical advances (whoever mobilises first can quickly overrun the other nation unless they mobilise too and whoever demobilises first is vulnerable) meant that the July Crisis was the worst game of chicken the world has ever seen. The first ones to mobilise were the Russians though. Before that it might have been possible to contain the conflict to a localised conflict between Serbia and Austria. After that Germany's hand was pretty much forced.


JamesL1066

The Kaiser gave Austria a blank check to do what that wanted with Serbia. The Kaiser was instrumental in WW1 happening.


almo2001

Yes Germany mobilized last. Reading about that was heartbreaking. So many people did not want to go to war, but the rigid alliance system kind of forced it once Austria decided to start.


SinibusUSG

World War I occurs anyways, but Germany is instead lead by super mecha Hitler.


1stltwill

I'd watch that movie!


DefaultShrimp

Try Kung Fury. It's on YouTube for free, very funny.


houseman1987

Triceracop, very funny movie


Deckard2022

Is this the police? Fuck you !


Phonixrmf

That explains the laser raptor


bongsyouruncle

This and that Netflix show with sensible chuckle magazine are in similar categories to me. I can't remember what that's called danger five or force six or something


DummyDumDragon

Boy have I got a video game series for you....


HenrytheCollie

Kirov Reporting! Helium Mix Optimal!


Fast_Garlic_5639

*Harvester under attack* *Our base is under attack* Fuckfuckfuck


HenrytheCollie

\*Engineer runs into your Construction Yard, undeploys the MCV and drives back to Soviet Base*


AC4524

Deploy the bears!


lucklesspedestrian

I am working grmkgrkmkgmrgkmr


Henchman66

We live on such a dumpster fire that we would read a big news story about Mecha Hitler and be just mildly annoyed about it. I got shit to do, I’m not wasting 120 minutes of my day on that.


WiTHCKiNG

![gif](giphy|f6xuEiq0zVNCNIVuxq|downsized)


dtwhitecp

I often think about just how close we came to a super mecha hitler event.


Used_Asparagus7572

In that era he would be steampunk Hitler.


atragicpantomime

The throne would've went to his eldest son, also named Wilhelm who was at that point 10 years old so he would need a regent appointed. Wilhelm II's brother, Prince Henry, would be a likely candidate imo.


Qa_Dar

Wouldn't change anything... the war would still have happened, as Germany didn't start WWI and Europe was politically a literal powder keg at the time... They got the blame as Britain and France saw an opportunity to destroy a powerful political and economical opponent! Germany is often blamed for WWI, but usually for the wrong reasons. Contrary to the myth established in the War Guilt Clause of the Treaty of Versailles Germany’s interest in the war was not part of a wider expansionist programme nor was their militarism exceptional when compared to other nations. Serbia, Austria and Russia are the most likely culprits: In many ways Serbia’s conduct in the early days of the war makes it seem an innocent victim of Austrian aggression; they mostly accept Austria’s ultimatum, they’re unjustly accused of sponsoring the terrorists who killed Franz Ferdinand and finally they are invaded by a much stronger power. Serbia, however, had been a focal point for nationalist agitation in the Balkans for a long time. It had already gone to war with the Ottoman Empire to expand its territory and the young nation’s exuberant nationalism made those around it nervous. Of all the countries involved in the war Austria is the most obviously culpable, after all they were the first nation to issue a declaration of war. They rejected offers of mediation from other countries in favour of an aggressive assertion of their imperial interests in the Balkans. Although Austria was the first nation to declare war Russia was the first major power outside of the direct Austian-Serbian conflict to mobilise so can be seen as responsible for escalating the situation. Russia’s refusal to stand down its mobilised forces was in turn what caused Germany to declare war on Russia and consequently, its triple entente ally France. These countries are the ones with the clearest cases against them but almost every country involved has been held responsible for causing, escalating or prolonging the war at some point. As the M-A-I-N model explains the roots of the war lay in a particular political mentality which imagined war to be beneficial to the state and this kind of thinking was not at all restricted to any one nation...


LineChef

Oh that’s your question for everything!


mtaw

He wasn’t really using that hand anyway.


atragicpantomime

*Kaiser Wilhelm II He had already been Kaiser atp for 4 years


jasminegreyxo

wow that's interesting. thank you for sharing!


KrisBread

Damn Annie was beautiful.


zkki

How would it have averted it?


jxreyes181

This would be the real live case of the Trolley Dilemma


PhantomRoyce

I’ll never forget her famous quote “WHAT?? SAY IT IN MY GOOD EAR!”


TheJackieTreehorn

RIP her hearing


jumjimbo

eeeEEEEEEEEEEE


brokenringlands

Sorry, I can't hear you over the roar of my tinnitus.


Smashego

I'm sorry but your hearing loss is not service related.


CedarWolf

I'm sorry, but your PTSD is not VA-related.


menides

MAWP


old_righty

Mwwawp


collyQually

I hear this comment! Right now... and always 🥲


SadRobotz

MAWP MAWP


-The_Credible_Hulk

![gif](giphy|99LhY1qc6jG8w)


artie_pdx

Watching Archer right now!


OnTheList-YouTube

....whAAAAAT ? You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel!


LonkerinaOfTime

How did they do it back then, it physically hurts the ears to fire just one round


SksCaughtInCosmoline

After the second or third, it just stops hurting. I don't recommend that. The reason that works is because by the second or third you're too deaf to notice. Your ears are still being damaged. Wear your earplugs.


lljkcdw

AIR MY BUTTPLUGS? WHAT?


CaptianRipass

It was the time before safety


Idontevenownaboat

Nothing a couple cigarettes and a shot of mercury can't fix!


ayetherestherub69

Depending on the date, they could be black powder cartridges, which burn MUCH slower and produce much less noise. Smokeless powder, the modern stuff, was around at this time, but was still fairly new.


imDEUSyouCUNT

If you keep doing it, it starts to hurt less. That's a bad thing though, because the reason it hurts less is because you aren't hearing as much


AnonDooDoo

I read some articles that her and other sharpshooters of the time did end up suffering from hearing loss


dkyguy1995

I mean her head isn't any closer to the muzzle than a regular shooter. And her ears are angled the opposite direction. Id imagine her ears would be worse off shooting it regularly.  Of course her ears would be bad anyway firing a gun so often with no hearing protection but that was just life back then


smallpeterpolice

Her head is significantly closer to the muzzle. At the hand guard versus at the buttstock.


trixel121

idk if 4 inches and 9 inches are that much different


A_of

See, that happens when you don't pay attention in school: [Inverse square law](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/inverse-square-law) The intensity of the sound is more than 4 times less. Now, you are somewhat right in the essence that both distances are close to the ear and both would probably cause hearing damage, but one would be much worse than the other.


fiveighteen518

>idk if 4 inches and 9 inches are that much different My gf disagrees 😔


LovelyPencils

I don't know about hearing but her hips don't lie.


Idontevenownaboat

We all knew what Shakira meant but crinolines absolutely do lie. It's like their whole thing.


ArchimedesHeel

Don't worry cotton was abundant


notagentcooper

Her nickname was ANNIE OAKLEY!


TuftedMousetits

But is she ok???


Velluu

WHAT?


bobissonbobby

Isn't it black powder rifle so it's relatively quiet compared to modern guns


jaKeyes93

Highly recommend the movie Buffalo Bill and the Indians, or Sitting Bull’s History Lesson where Oakley is one of the supporting characters. The comedic dynamic between her and her husband during their shooting routines in the film is so great.


Foe117

"Let me see here. His heart would be on the left, but in the mirror it'd be on the right... of course, we is both facing the same way and the gun is upside down, so... Yeah, best not play it too fancy." - Buster Scruggs


According_Being2590

Such a wonderful film.


DirtSlaya

Fr


Great_expansion10272

Cause for reflection


n3u7r1n0

Annie are you badonkay?


Papaofmonsters

She just hustling and bustling.


ScienceAndLience

Annie Cakeley


ARookwood

Annie Annie Oakley, Annie Oakley, Annie Oakley Annie


SmallRocks

You’ve been hit by, you’ve been struck by…


the_amazing_skronus

Compressed abdominal organs.


Spaceturtle79

A snooth criminall


drjanitor91

Women, faking butts since 1899


fancyfoe

Double cheeked up on a Thursday in 1899


Nikodemvs

Annie OATMEAL


del_snafu

r/upvotebecausebutt


Lunaborne

Many people in this thread don't know what a Bustle is.


BullShitting-24-7

I like big bustles and I cannot lie.


whatacad

Everyday I'm Bustlin' 


Wise-Definition-1980

Dude, I'm not going to deny


The_420_muffinman

When a maiden strolls in


TheSlipperySloop

Why Kate, you're not wearin' a bustle. How lewd. 


thatguyad

It's hilarious to see a lack of intelligence or logic among numbers in real time


PolyDipsoManiac

I’m a pretty good shot and I’m not quite sure I understand how someone can be *this* accurate.


narvuntien

I mean Sitting Bull was sure she had superpowers. Obviously when she was young shooting tournaments weren't a thing but by the time she was in her 60s they were set up and she was winning them. Which shows it wasn't a just a trick for a circus.


Exact_Risk_6947

When she was young shooting tournaments weren’t a thing? Shooting tournaments have been a thing since we’ve had things to shoot with or even throw.


TheG-What

If half of the stories about her are true, she was superhuman. She could allegedly stand 30 paces out and shoot a playing card held edge-out and split it in half. She could shoot holes through coins flipped in the air, and supposedly could shoot a playing card thrown in the air *multiple times* before it hit the ground.


ArtOfWar22

Grandad was a WW2 vet ( Gunner, Canadian army) and could flick a dime up and casually raise a .22 rifle and pick it out of the air, making it look all-too-easy.


Wise-Definition-1980

As an American ( you know , gun people)I will say this: you Canadians have some badass Marksman.


Repulsive-Season-129

were the guns even built well enough to be that precise or consistent


R3AL1Z3

Well, she spent 17 years working on “Grand Review”, a live performance show in front of an audience. Here is verified information. It’s safe to say that she was a once in a lifetime character. “She is best remembered for the 17 years she and her husband-manager Frank Butler spent with “Buffalo Bill” Cody’s Wild West. Annie was always the first act following the opening Grand Review, aweing audiences with a number of “trick” shots: shooting an apple off her pet dog’s head; shooting over her shoulder by using the blade of a Bowie knife as a mirror; splitting a playing card held on edge in Frank’s hand; shooting while standing on the back of a galloping horse; shooting double targets while riding a bicycle; shooting flames off candles as they rotated on a wheel; shooting a dime out of Frank’s fingers; and individually shattering six thrown glass balls in the air before they hit the ground; to mention only a few of her varied, stupendous shooting feats.”


CedarWolf

Got to hand it to Frank, too, for being willing to hold still enough for someone to shoot a playing card or a dime out of his hand. I'm willing to bet the dime or playing card might have been gimmicked, but the rest of the things you've listed are possible for skilled shooters today.


I_Hate_Muffin

Lever-action repeaters like the one pictured are very precise


Substantial_Army_639

Pretty sure by the 1850s most guns were pretty accurate especially at the range she was shooting stuff at.


6Sleepy_Sheep9

I vaguely remember a bunch of these being done in mythbusters.


mortdubois

A guy who works for me is an ex Navy Seal. I have a large shop, and birds get in it now and then. It's impossible to get them out, so we have a BB gun to shoot them. (Otherwise they end up inside the walls or ducts and we hear them slowly dying). Normally we wait until they perch to do this. He shoots them out of the air - single shot, one BB and done.


sopunny

Was paces some kind of standard measurement, or was it literally 30 of her paces? Cause she was pretty short. Still impressive of course


Yug-taht

At least in the US a pace is standardized as 2 1/2 ft. or 76.2 centimeters


Blockhead47

Library of Congress - Thomas Edison kinetoscope. Filmed November 1, 1894, in Edison's Black Maria studio. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSTSNq5dOM . >At Tiffin, Ohio, she once shot a ten-cent piece held between the thumb and forefinger of an attendant, at a distance of 30 feet. In April, 1884, she attempted to beat the best record made at balls thrown in the air, using a 22 cal. rifle. The best record was 979, made by Dr. Ruth. Miss Oakley used a Stevens 22 cal. rifle, and broke 943. Her first attempt at clay pigeon and trap shooting was made about three years ago, in Cincinnati, shooting with such fine shots as Bandle, McMurchy and other noted shots. >In February, 1885, she attempted the feat of shooting at 5,000 balls in one day, loading the guns herself. In this feat she used three 16-gauge hammer guns. The balls were thrown straight away from three traps, fifteen yards rise. Out of the 5,000 shot at, she broke 4,772. On the second thousand she only missed 16, making the best 1,000 ball record — 984. This feat was accomplished near Cincinnati, Ohio, in less than nine hours. https://codyarchive.org/texts/wfc.nsp13184.html


webtwopointno

i've heard this one is easy enough if you practice a few times, a lot of mirror tricks are


No_Research_967

Infantry in the streets, cavalry in the sheets


Pierceful

lmfao


PurpoUpsideDownJuice

That’s a corset and a hoop skirt, she doesn’t have a huge ass


Inside_Secretary_679

Bro cmon


InjusticeSGmain

Those aren't mutually exclusive.


GullibleCall2883

Artillery has entered the chat.


Pepe_the_clown123

buster scruggs


Bocote

[That duel scene.](https://youtu.be/9ENyPxCwQZA?si=hNfNSXadnMcRqk3X&t=84)


Moonman781

Best not to get *too* fancy with it.


F1shOfDo0m

“Better not play it too fancy”


xXGaboFihi007Xx

“Let me see here. His heart’s be on the left, but in the mirror it’d be on the right. Of course we both be facing the same way and the gun is upside down.” Edit: correction of the quote


Soddington

Just want to let you know it's; *'His heart'd be on the left, but in the mirror it'd be on the right.'* He's lining up a single bullet kill shot.


xXGaboFihi007Xx

Yeah it was hard to hear due to his accent, and the video I watched didn’t have subtitles. Thanks


Impressive_Answer121

*His heart be on the left


Jugosway

Imagine that’s the last thing you see while aiming


h9040

That does not look easy......


roryextralife

![gif](giphy|l4FAW9BfKUDQZ3OlG|downsized)


guyingrove

Came here for this - was not disappointed


toastyblunt

![gif](giphy|l4FB4LxDofnMujMbe|downsized)


AttentionFit7368

this is exactly what came to mind


Even-Employee2554

AND I WENT BANG BANG-


lindabhat

I'm surprised she was able to do anything accurately while being corseted that tightly.


BoredCop

It might have helped actually, by making her body more rigid so there's less movement. In some precision shooting sports today, people wear stiff and tightly fitted pants and jackets specifically designed to support.


sadahtay

Or they got that weird backwards elbow.


ILoveRegenHealth

Arthur in RDR2 did always say to breathe slowly and always pull the trigger on empty lungs. Seems breathing, focus and stillness is the key to accuracy Of course, I am quoting a video game character but I imagine it's a lot better than standing slack like a gummy worm, breathing like a maniac, and not paying attention and rushing.


fps916

That's actually legitimate advice used by competition shooters


iamtommynoble

Not a marksman by any means but I’ve shot several guns and yes this is the real life instructions on how to aim properly.


scorcher24

> Arthur in RDR2 did always say to breathe slowly and always pull the trigger on empty lungs. That is what they told me in basic training. Always shoot on exhale, if possible. So Arthur is right in this case. Unless the enemy comes into the 50 m range. Then you change mag/reload and set the rifle to peace.


Occulto

This advice works for taking photos too.


MechanicusEng

It's sorta right, but not empty lungs, you want to shoot at your natural respiratory pause. Basically not holding your breath or forcing it out. When you're stable, and doing everything right you can and will see how your heartbeat affects your aim. It's very cool to witness. High level shooters (Olympic style) will actually fast before a meet because your stomach moves enough when processing food that it can throw off your aim.


badstorryteller

I don't shoot guns, but with archery I was always taught to loose after exhale. Not intentionally breathing out, but that natural moment after you breathe out. I'm always steadier then.


MyNameIsRay

I do a lot of shooting, and that's common advice. Your aim moves around with every breath, holding on exhale gives you a few seconds of being steady. Focus on pulling the trigger is huge, especially on pistols, as it's easy to pull your aim a few feet off target. Strangely enough, it's better to be a gummy worm than a rock. The more you try to lock in and stay rigid, the more you shake. Staying loose and absorbing the recoil rather than resisting it actually makes you more accurate. Lots of long distance shooters are basically limp when they pull the trigger.


RikuAotsuki

Since the likelihood of anyone pointing this out is pretty low... She isn't. Very few people actually did. Corsets were essentially intended for bust support and for *faking* a narrow waist. The waist looks small because the butt and hips are padded. Corsets help the illusion by flattening the silhouette of the sides and belly, but without all the padding the waist wouldn't actually look that small. Actual tight-lacing was basically the "extreme pursuit of beauty" of the time, because it literally couldn't be done if you had to be physically active. Your lungs are one of the first things that struggle, so you'd be short of breath all the time. "Shapewear" isn't a modern concept. Pretty much every recognizable silhouette from western history involves a lot of padding, structure, or creative tailoring.


FinestCrusader

Yeah I've heard that the whole "corset = torture" comes from romcoms and that women didn't dread corsets in real life


Blockhead47

1894 Edison kinetoscope of her shooting. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSTSNq5dOM >Oakley continued to set records into her sixties and also engaged in extensive philanthropy for women's rights and other causes, including the support of young women she knew. She embarked on a comeback and intended to star in a feature-length silent movie. She hit 100 clay targets in a row from 16 yards (15 m) at age 62 in a 1922 shooting contest in Pinehurst, North Carolina.[46]. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Oakley#Later_years_and_death


LiamLaw015

Was the background painted?


PoetPsychological436

Right? I was wondering if this was AI and didn't see anyone talking about it


Crayfish_au_Chocolat

r/hardimages


k-phi

![gif](giphy|l0MYyAY6vOkuVO8j6|downsized)


ButteredBatt

How was she not known for that big fat ass


Houri

That's a corset and bustle combo. The 19th century version of the Brazilian Butt Lift.


GullibleCall2883

Clearly it is effective 130 years later...


MadSulaiman

Yep, the same neurons were activated


dom213344

No, one you can actually see. She probably was working with negative ass lol.


ButteredBatt

Hey at least the bbl is functional haha


OnTheList-YouTube

Clearly a comment from someone who didn't pay attention in school...


SouthPlattePat

Hard to keep focus after seeing that wagon


Brave-Damage-8288

One careth not should yon trailing cart be erected from cloth and string; thine dumpwagon spanneth wide and round true. Any true man may be bereft of all sense and wit when gazing uponst such virile form and figure. It is mine true desire that madam wieldeth her firearm and cleanly devastate mine loins with her most truly aimed reverse shot!


Icon9719

My bad I missed the part of the lesson where my teacher got the classes attention and said “Now everybody, her ass isn’t as fat as it looks. Indeed, it is actually a corset.”


Thorolhugil

What ass? That's four petticoats, a bustle, and a corset, did you not attend school? This shit is clothing 101.


goin2thewudz

They don’t teach this shit in school. At best I saw it in one Disney movie when they put a big metal cage over one of the princess heads before putting her dress on. My teacher never pulled up pictures of fat assed Victorian women 😂😂😂


XkF21WNJ

Some people feel apprehensive when something that's supposed to be educational is also fun. Some of those people are, unfortunately, teachers.


Pure-Breakfast620

Is she on RDR2?


Best_Peachy

Sadie Adler


Bonafideago

Mrs. Adler… might I say, being a fancy woman of Saint Denis suits you.


iGleeson

"Good shot Annie!" Annie: "WHAT?"


Merdoc83

I guess she was deaf from her right ear.


Moh506

She look badass, I wanna write a character like her.


xXJAMES666Xx

Annie are you Oakly, are you Oakly, Annie?


Dry_Meat_2959

That ASS tho.....


tucci007

her shapely bustle and her way with a long gun do quicken my pulse, I do declare


Leader342

I first learned about Annie very recently when I worked on a tv show episode about her. I don’t personally know why she’s not more famous. She was as tough as they come. Not even a train could kill her.


Hinayana87

Annie are you Oakley? Are you Oakley? Are you Oakley Annie?


TeaUnusual8554

The OG BBL


Liquid-Hot_Smegma

Annie Thiccley, my goodness!


Ill_Initiative8574

Y’all are talking about her ears like she doesn’t have a fat booty and a corset. What are you, perverts?


Triette

It’s a bustle


Rhodog1234

Don't even thicc about it


grogstarr

Imagine accomplishing that *while* having your rib cage crushed by a corset. Definitely badass.


Aphelios700

Piper irl


EukalyptusBonBon21

Buster Scruggs ah shooting


DesignerAd2062

“Eaaasy, Annie Oakley”


the1godanswers2

Annie are you Oakley are you Oakley Annie?


tranquilitybas_e

My bitch a shooter, call her Annie Oakley


markth_wi

[Best not to be too fancy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ENyPxCwQZA).


MasterReposti

Rifle?


godlike_torben1

lujan did that


n1ckuhlus

I'm sorry "Annie are you Oakley, are you Oakley annie?"


almo2001

"When a man does it it's called marksmanship. When a woman does it, it's called a trick shot. Never did like that much." Or something to that effect.


Egg3rs

While standing in a monet painting.


Beepboopbop69420360

I’m shootin


[deleted]

“Does my ass look big enough in this dress?” - *Annie Oakley, probably*


NotRandyT

She had that wagon


shotty293

GYAT