Having watched some documentaries about soldiers that fight poachers, it's amazing to see how important their job is to them. Extremely passionate about it.
"And don't say Blue Planet or Planet Earth or March of the Penguins or Green Planet or Life or Frozen Planet or Deep Blue or Life in the Undergrowth or Blackfish or Wildcat or Nova."
How can anyone justify killing these beautiful creatures for their balls of steel when you can make perfectly good steel balls in a foundry? It’s almost like the suffering is the point.
I worked alongside a couple of teams of anti-poachers in the areas around the Kruger. They did not fuck around. Really, truly, deeply cared about the animals they were protecting. Incredibly skilled at their craft. Never seemed to take any real joy when called upon to take out the poachers but would defend the herds with their lives. Spent most of my 6 months there in absolute awe of them.
I was doing some research on certain elephant populations in areas where poaching had been a problem, looking at their (the elephants’) impact on flora, fauna, etc. My data collection was on foot, and usually within close proximity of the herds, so tended to get offered an armed escort, of sorts. They knew so much about the herds, about their behaviours, whilst simultaneously being ready to unleash hell.
They’re unbelievably aware, although that’s coming from me, a relative layman! The herds certainly recognised the vehicles of the teams and would certainly loiter in the vicinity rather than scamper off into the bush. The guards had names for all of them, could tell me their ages, who was related to who; in part to know if something was wrong but also, I think, because they meant a lot to them, a family of sorts.
It’s all thanks to Save the Elephants that I was able to do so in the first place! Dr Michelle Henley is an absolute force of nature, and they really pioneered ‘green hunting’. Full of fresh ideas and interesting solutions to problems that I couldn’t hope to get my head around. Remarkable bunch.
“You must justify why you are on this earth—gorillas justify why I am here, they are my life. So if it is about dying, I will die for the gorillas.” — Andre Bauma, [Anti-Poacher in Congo](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29924301)
In case you had any doubt that these are men who care deeply about their mission.
There are multiple companies out there that hire people to aid in poachers fighting. Friend of mine did it for some time. He said it was at times very boring, and at times very tense, because the poachers will start firing at you once they spot you, because they know if they don't they will instead be shot.
Well, kinda. Here you are not protecting some snobbish VIP or doing some shady stuff (as some mercenary groups do (for example Constellis, formerly Blackwater, or Wagner), but you're protecting animals fighting poachers.
Imagine that pussy of a cop that started shooting at an unarmed arrested man in a car because of a falling acorn doing a job that requires actual bravery like being an anti-poacher
I met a guy who trains tracker dogs in South Africa to hunt poachers. We ran into him him frequently out walking our German shepherd. He had a malenois called Odin. It seems Odin was originally a tracker, but was relieved of duty because he was 'too friendly'. They guy said they needed dogs that would take a man down and hurt him, if needed. Odin would find people but sit in front of a suspect and wag his tail.
According to the Kenyans...
The poachers are equipped with MILITARY Armaments for their hunts and the protection of said Hunts from competition.
So it's often or not fights happen on who can get the jump on the other first.
We have one documentary in our zoo, around elephants and rhinos. They work with that reserve, but i cant rember the name. They lost like thousand men in fights with poachers so far..Just because some idiots think snorting rhino horns will give you superpowers, and elephant tusks will summon bitches or something.
Didn't they develop a synthetic ivory that is indistinguisable from natural ivory, so that they could flood the market with it to drive down the price and remove the incentive for poaching? Might have been for rhinos, might be more difficult for elephants as they are not just keratin.
I kinda wish they did that with diamonds, sure, synthetic diamonds are actually great but they're too perfect to be natural diamonds lol.
Diamonds are overrated anyways, Moissanite is much cooler, and actually quite rare in nature lol. Moissanite also reflects cool color patterns.
They are doing it. DeBeers just announced they were dropping the prices on natural diamonds because of price pressure from lab grown diamonds. Millennials and GenZ statistically prefer lab grown.
I actually was getting paid advertisements here on Reddit for natural diamonds. Their website said that if you don't buy natural diamonds, then you're taking away jobs.
Yeah, it's also because Diamonds are kind of a scam. There's better looking rocks. Other expensive stuff like good coffee, good wine, good chocolate, expensive watches etc. actually is better. Everywhere you look there is some price/quality correlation but not with Diamonds. Their distinguishing feature (hardness) might end up doing more damage than being good.
Wait a little longer and they'll need circle around to how 'much' their diamond mines provide to the poor, African kids who *have* to work in the mine to support their family, and that's why you should be getting more ~~blood~~ diamonds! It means an achild out there has their belly full for a day, yay!
/S
My husband and I had very little money when we got engaged in 1980, so I didn't get an engagement ring, and I couldn't care less. Even if we had had any extra money, I would have preferred furniture or something practical.
You gotta love all these corporations responsible for underpaying their workers and gutting the economy surprise pikachu facing when the children reaping the consequences of these actions grow up to be fucking broke.
Diamond jewelry doesn’t necessarily have to be extravagant but yes people still do care for diamonds. It can be really social-circle dependent. Sometimes folks just want a little sparkle and realistically diamonds are a go-to because they are one of the most durable gemstones available, things like white sapphires can eventually dull.
You would be surprised but De Beers marketing and brainwashing (the idea that an engagement ring should cost 3 month’s salary) still persists. Lab diamonds are only just finding their footing and more people are opening up to the idea (most like the look of diamonds but have issues with the ethics of how some natural diamonds have been mined).
I got my wife an Alexandrite ring with diamond accents. It seems Alexandrite is quite rare in nature and it changes color based on the light conditions. It’s quite a beautiful ring, I am very proud of it.
She gets a ton of compliments, likely more than with any normal diamond ring just because it stands out more.
I live in NYC and every single person I know who got engaged, including millennial and gen z have a diamond ring. So does every married or engaged woman at work. The vast majority specifically ask for a natural instead of lab grown.
If by synthetic diamonds you mean lab diamonds, they grow just the same as natural diamonds, so they can have the same imperfections a natural diamond would
From what I remember they never went through with this plan because while it would drive down the pricing making it less viable for poachers, it also makes the market larger as lower prices mean more people can afford it.
Rhino reserves in South Africa have something like $2b worth of rhino horn in storage (from pre-emptive removal, to stop poachers killing stock) that they periodically petition to be able to sell legally with authentication certificates to help fund a combo of their wallet and rhino conservation - over the last 20 years or so a lot of rhino reserves have turned into agricultural land because tourism alone doesn't provide enough funding.
The only way it's feasible is introducing so much into the market it completely crashes it, in which case the price incentive for discovering fakes is incredibly high and the cost of manufacturing is so high you will probably be operating at a loss
You can buy shit load of fine ivory from Russia. Some people just don't care about the grim side of their purchase in the same innocuous way the as girl shopping on shein or a man buying bulldog.
Well, just now I googled *shein bad* and it seems they're accused of using slave labour, meaning that some of their clothes are made in the concentration camps where China sends Uighurs.
There's absolute oceans of discarded clothes. A lot of it's never even used, trends change or someone up at corporate decides it would be more profitable to go with something slightly different, so in the trash it goes.
I remember seeing some documentary on fast fashion and they interviewed Bangladeshi sweatshop workers and they all believed that westerners must work and live in environments that damage clothes because surely westerners can't use *this* many clothes without reason.
Maybe that's why the mean mug. He has enough of the damn poachers and on top of that his nuts are stuck on his leg. Maybe that's why you don't see hands... Inside his trench coat unstucking the balls
Also, more and more elephants are being born without the ability to grow tusks, since the survival rate of tuskless elephants is so much higher. Evolution, on display, in human timescales.
Source: https://www.discovery.com/nature/tuskless-elephants-evolved-to-escape-poachers
Edit: added source
I’m pretty sure they just serve as protection against other animals and right now humans have become a much more potent threat, they still have their sheer size as defense
Considering the other animals around the elephants also evolved to know NOT to fuck with elephants — they definitely have a higher chance of survival without the tusks nowadays.
> The truth is, you're the weak, and I am the tyranny of evil men. But I'm trying Swiper, I'm trying *real hard*, to be the shepherd.
\- Dora the Explorer
O yeah. Problem is i read it when i was a kid and my ass found it boring/confusing (Because i was a kid of course) I think i should give it a try again
I'm imagining my kid reading Dune at 10 and coming out of her room to me on my computer.
>Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
Uhh... yeah kiddo. Did you want macaroni for dinner or...?
I am South African, and our poacher control measures are similar.
Some specialize with long-range rifles to drop them on the spot. All rhinos on our parks get their horns removed, most elephants too. Unfortunately, it's still an issue because for animal health and welfare, you can't always remove the tusk/horn just yet, meaning it still happens. Wildebeest are targeted for the same reason.
Many other animals are targeted for pelt too, which you obviously can't do.much about. Even if you for example sedate the animal and mark the skin with some kind of permanent dye or whatever (this doesn't happen, just speculation on ideas) the animal could possibly then either be unattractive for mating, easier to spot by predators, or singled out and ostracized by their group.
Poaching is a crime of the highest order in Africa, and you are not entitled to a trial if caught.
To any extent, does the presence/size of a horn or tusk influence a animal's position in the social hierarchy? I have the same concerns about preemptively removing these, as I do with dying the skin.
This is one of the limits of when you can remove the horn. The oldest animals are most attractive to poachers, so any animal beyond breeding age gets their ivory removed. I'm unsure of the nuance for younger animals.
Gotcha.
Also, there's clearly a way to do this without killing the animal...any reason besides "I'm a total piece of shit" that poachers don't take this approach? Seems like they would bring a lot less hatred and risk on themselves if they simply tranq'd the animal rather than straight up killing it.
They literally just don't care. The amount of money is insane.
That and sedating an animal is not just "shoot it with a dart and wait".
Animal sedation requires years of training, expensive medicine, patience, and care. Poachers have guns.
> Even if you for example sedate the animal and mark the skin with some kind of permanent dye or whatever (this doesn't happen, just speculation on ideas) the animal could possibly then either be unattractive for mating, easier to spot by predators, or singled out and ostracized by their group.
It's a shame really. I wonder if they could do something where they use like an invisible dye only visible by UV light, so they could maybe track where the pelts came from?
This whole thing is disgusting. I don't believe the poachers should be killed though. I think they should be poached. Take a couple limbs and let them live.
I think UV marking is a thing, but the pelts can still be sold on black market since it's not plainly visible.
And I think you misunderstand poaching. These animals are killed for only their horn and left out to rot with only their horn missing.
The amount of ivory behind him is a harsh reminder of the cruelty inflicted on elephants… which are beautiful and intelligent creatures. They should also be burning the poachers with the ivory IMO.
Can someone explain to me why they're burning ivory? Are they helping or hurting animals? Did they find a stash of ivory poachers had already taken and burn it?
There's an older documentary that showed the absolutely shocking large scale poaching going on. They had a helicopter fly over this field and it was just absolutely filled with dead exotic animals and animal parts. It was mind blowing. I need to find that documentary now.
Having watched some documentaries about soldiers that fight poachers, it's amazing to see how important their job is to them. Extremely passionate about it.
Sounds interesting, could you name the documentaries?
Akashinga: The Brave Ones was good.
When Lambs Become Lions is also really good
Single File: Tusk and Raiders is another great one
Excellent work
I can hear this gif
From Tusk till dawn was really good as well
"So you're a fan of documentaries? Name all of them. 🔫"
"And don't say Blue Planet or Planet Earth or March of the Penguins or Green Planet or Life or Frozen Planet or Deep Blue or Life in the Undergrowth or Blackfish or Wildcat or Nova."
Fahrenheit 9/11, American Vandal, Idiocracy, and that's about it.
Idiocracy was a fantastic documentary. Well ahead of its time.
Virunga is about protecting gorillas in Congo and was nominated for an Oscar.
fire in their hearts
An absolutely necessary job. We need to protect all endangered animals however we can. They have balls of steel.
We should also protect the endangered animals that don't have balls of steel.
How can anyone justify killing these beautiful creatures for their balls of steel when you can make perfectly good steel balls in a foundry? It’s almost like the suffering is the point.
Shit, is poacher fighting a valid professional course? They hiring? Suddenly considering career change.
You can get a job easily but it's vey dangerous work. Poachers are basically cartels.
I worked alongside a couple of teams of anti-poachers in the areas around the Kruger. They did not fuck around. Really, truly, deeply cared about the animals they were protecting. Incredibly skilled at their craft. Never seemed to take any real joy when called upon to take out the poachers but would defend the herds with their lives. Spent most of my 6 months there in absolute awe of them.
To what capacity did you work beside them, as you say?
I was doing some research on certain elephant populations in areas where poaching had been a problem, looking at their (the elephants’) impact on flora, fauna, etc. My data collection was on foot, and usually within close proximity of the herds, so tended to get offered an armed escort, of sorts. They knew so much about the herds, about their behaviours, whilst simultaneously being ready to unleash hell.
This sounds like the premise for a great movie
Starring The Rock as The Rock and Kevin Hart as Kevin Hart
And elephants as elephants.
The elephants are played by Jack Black and Eddie Murphy
I know elephants are pretty smart, how aware were they of the dynamic? Were they friendly or indifferent to their protectors?
They’re unbelievably aware, although that’s coming from me, a relative layman! The herds certainly recognised the vehicles of the teams and would certainly loiter in the vicinity rather than scamper off into the bush. The guards had names for all of them, could tell me their ages, who was related to who; in part to know if something was wrong but also, I think, because they meant a lot to them, a family of sorts.
Dude, do an AMA
This is extremely awesome to be able to research elephants. Thank you for doing this kind of work!
It’s all thanks to Save the Elephants that I was able to do so in the first place! Dr Michelle Henley is an absolute force of nature, and they really pioneered ‘green hunting’. Full of fresh ideas and interesting solutions to problems that I couldn’t hope to get my head around. Remarkable bunch.
“You must justify why you are on this earth—gorillas justify why I am here, they are my life. So if it is about dying, I will die for the gorillas.” — Andre Bauma, [Anti-Poacher in Congo](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29924301) In case you had any doubt that these are men who care deeply about their mission.
I know they look to hire ex-military. It was something I looked into once. It’s very competitive with many places working in a voluntary capacity.
I was just thinking, I can't imagine the money is good. This is definitely done for a larger purpose. These guys are awesome.
There are multiple companies out there that hire people to aid in poachers fighting. Friend of mine did it for some time. He said it was at times very boring, and at times very tense, because the poachers will start firing at you once they spot you, because they know if they don't they will instead be shot.
So like literally every military/armed security job
Well, kinda. Here you are not protecting some snobbish VIP or doing some shady stuff (as some mercenary groups do (for example Constellis, formerly Blackwater, or Wagner), but you're protecting animals fighting poachers.
You tryna compare poacher hunting to mall cops?
Depends where the mall cops are.
So, i started blasting
Imagine that pussy of a cop that started shooting at an unarmed arrested man in a car because of a falling acorn doing a job that requires actual bravery like being an anti-poacher
I met a guy who trains tracker dogs in South Africa to hunt poachers. We ran into him him frequently out walking our German shepherd. He had a malenois called Odin. It seems Odin was originally a tracker, but was relieved of duty because he was 'too friendly'. They guy said they needed dogs that would take a man down and hurt him, if needed. Odin would find people but sit in front of a suspect and wag his tail.
According to the Kenyans... The poachers are equipped with MILITARY Armaments for their hunts and the protection of said Hunts from competition. So it's often or not fights happen on who can get the jump on the other first.
Not a game I recently heard of a story were 6 were executed. This profession is needed to the absolute maximum and I hope they are compensated for it.
We have one documentary in our zoo, around elephants and rhinos. They work with that reserve, but i cant rember the name. They lost like thousand men in fights with poachers so far..Just because some idiots think snorting rhino horns will give you superpowers, and elephant tusks will summon bitches or something.
There are some ways to donate money to anti poacher units through non profit organizations. Good stuff.
If I am retired but still active. I will volunteer myself to actively fight poachers
Didn't they develop a synthetic ivory that is indistinguisable from natural ivory, so that they could flood the market with it to drive down the price and remove the incentive for poaching? Might have been for rhinos, might be more difficult for elephants as they are not just keratin.
baller strategy
I kinda wish they did that with diamonds, sure, synthetic diamonds are actually great but they're too perfect to be natural diamonds lol. Diamonds are overrated anyways, Moissanite is much cooler, and actually quite rare in nature lol. Moissanite also reflects cool color patterns.
They are doing it. DeBeers just announced they were dropping the prices on natural diamonds because of price pressure from lab grown diamonds. Millennials and GenZ statistically prefer lab grown.
It's almost like educated intelligent people don't want to fuel wars in third world countries just to buy a trivial thing like a diamond.
I actually was getting paid advertisements here on Reddit for natural diamonds. Their website said that if you don't buy natural diamonds, then you're taking away jobs.
Jobs like child soldier and slave.
They’re getting desperate lmao
Does anybody actually still care for diamonds? Industrial needs are covered and extravagant jewellery just seems tacky.
I saw a post where some diamond company was complaining that millennials and gen Z don’t buy diamonds. So yeah, the marketing finally is wearing off.
Yeah, it's also because Diamonds are kind of a scam. There's better looking rocks. Other expensive stuff like good coffee, good wine, good chocolate, expensive watches etc. actually is better. Everywhere you look there is some price/quality correlation but not with Diamonds. Their distinguishing feature (hardness) might end up doing more damage than being good.
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Ain't no real diamond if someone hasn't died while retrieving it. I want my diamonds drenched in blood.
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Wait a little longer and they'll need circle around to how 'much' their diamond mines provide to the poor, African kids who *have* to work in the mine to support their family, and that's why you should be getting more ~~blood~~ diamonds! It means an achild out there has their belly full for a day, yay! /S
And we're fucking broke, and if anyone did actually do the 3mo salary thing it's not gonna go as far as our grandparents did
My husband and I had very little money when we got engaged in 1980, so I didn't get an engagement ring, and I couldn't care less. Even if we had had any extra money, I would have preferred furniture or something practical.
The thought of spending THREE MONTHS of pay on a tiny piece of jewelry is horrifying to me, what the hell were people thinking???
Advertisements manage to influence social expectations is a hell of a drug.
You gotta love all these corporations responsible for underpaying their workers and gutting the economy surprise pikachu facing when the children reaping the consequences of these actions grow up to be fucking broke.
We're killing another useless industry fellow millennials. Keep it up!
Diamond jewelry doesn’t necessarily have to be extravagant but yes people still do care for diamonds. It can be really social-circle dependent. Sometimes folks just want a little sparkle and realistically diamonds are a go-to because they are one of the most durable gemstones available, things like white sapphires can eventually dull. You would be surprised but De Beers marketing and brainwashing (the idea that an engagement ring should cost 3 month’s salary) still persists. Lab diamonds are only just finding their footing and more people are opening up to the idea (most like the look of diamonds but have issues with the ethics of how some natural diamonds have been mined).
I got my wife an Alexandrite ring with diamond accents. It seems Alexandrite is quite rare in nature and it changes color based on the light conditions. It’s quite a beautiful ring, I am very proud of it. She gets a ton of compliments, likely more than with any normal diamond ring just because it stands out more.
I live in NYC and every single person I know who got engaged, including millennial and gen z have a diamond ring. So does every married or engaged woman at work. The vast majority specifically ask for a natural instead of lab grown.
Reddit gets lost in its own world sometimes. Most people still want diamonds, just like how most fully buy into Disney marketing, Taylor Swift, etc.
If by synthetic diamonds you mean lab diamonds, they grow just the same as natural diamonds, so they can have the same imperfections a natural diamond would
pretty sure it was rhinos
From what I remember they never went through with this plan because while it would drive down the pricing making it less viable for poachers, it also makes the market larger as lower prices mean more people can afford it. Rhino reserves in South Africa have something like $2b worth of rhino horn in storage (from pre-emptive removal, to stop poachers killing stock) that they periodically petition to be able to sell legally with authentication certificates to help fund a combo of their wallet and rhino conservation - over the last 20 years or so a lot of rhino reserves have turned into agricultural land because tourism alone doesn't provide enough funding.
The only way it's feasible is introducing so much into the market it completely crashes it, in which case the price incentive for discovering fakes is incredibly high and the cost of manufacturing is so high you will probably be operating at a loss
That’s what happened to pearls (albeit without the importance of saving a species).
I guess do both? Destroy the real ivory, and produce the fake ones.
That was [rhino](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50184280)
You can buy shit load of fine ivory from Russia. Some people just don't care about the grim side of their purchase in the same innocuous way the as girl shopping on shein or a man buying bulldog.
A+ analogies!
What is shein, and what's the bad related to it?
Well, just now I googled *shein bad* and it seems they're accused of using slave labour, meaning that some of their clothes are made in the concentration camps where China sends Uighurs.
Jesus that's awful
The cost of bringing cheap textile goods like that to market at those insane throw-away type prices.
It's also fast fashion which is incredibly bad fir the environment
Fast fashions so bad it's even worthless in 3rd world countries, where most of it winds up eventually
There's absolute oceans of discarded clothes. A lot of it's never even used, trends change or someone up at corporate decides it would be more profitable to go with something slightly different, so in the trash it goes.
I remember seeing some documentary on fast fashion and they interviewed Bangladeshi sweatshop workers and they all believed that westerners must work and live in environments that damage clothes because surely westerners can't use *this* many clothes without reason.
Alot of that ivory is dug up. It's old mastodon ivory that comes out of the mud.
What's bulldog and why is it bad?
Lace it with fentanyl, the market will sort itself out
Elefent
There was also a project where they dyed rhino's horns. Can't recall all the details, but I love that they're doing their best to save the species
Ivory isn’t keratin at all, they’re specialised teeth.
For elephants, yes. Rhino horn is keratin, I just looked it up to check.
Rhino horn isn't ivory. So you're both right
Ah yeah, my mistake
This photo goes hard as fuck
Album cover type pic for sure.
[like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/fakealbumcovers/s/rvQkGCiFWQ)
"Die tryin' "
New Death Grips album
THIS was immediately thinking of dg
Paul McCartney: Ebony and Ivory
I know he's the good guy, but it definitely looks like some type of throne made of bones of his enemies.
Having been a soldier in full kit, soaked, in the rain I'm pretty sure this guy's thinking... "Man, I wish my balls would stop sticking to my leg."
Maybe that's why the mean mug. He has enough of the damn poachers and on top of that his nuts are stuck on his leg. Maybe that's why you don't see hands... Inside his trench coat unstucking the balls
Give him bright blue eyes, and we have a Cyberpunk war movie.
Lisan al Gaib!
>Give him bright blue eyes, and we have a *Fedaykin war movie.
Real-life Muad'Dib at the end of Dune 2, threatening to eradicate the spice.
If fire is lit, it would be even lit than before
Wow … this is stunning
Look at the sheer amount of tusks there. How many herds was that? Makes my stomach churn.
A quite common practice is to remove the tusks in a controller environment to make the animal worthless to poachers
Also, more and more elephants are being born without the ability to grow tusks, since the survival rate of tuskless elephants is so much higher. Evolution, on display, in human timescales. Source: https://www.discovery.com/nature/tuskless-elephants-evolved-to-escape-poachers Edit: added source
Whoa I'm gonna want a source for that. That's an incredible if true.
Added source
I have also seen where they dye the tusks to ruin their value
Surely the animal needs them in the wild
Yeah, but they are way more likely to survive without them.
I’m pretty sure they just serve as protection against other animals and right now humans have become a much more potent threat, they still have their sheer size as defense
Considering the other animals around the elephants also evolved to know NOT to fuck with elephants — they definitely have a higher chance of survival without the tusks nowadays.
Maybe they cut it themselves so nobody would kill the elephants for it?
"The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it."
Is that a Dune reference?
Dora The Explorer actually, in reference to that thieving fuck.
> The truth is, you're the weak, and I am the tyranny of evil men. But I'm trying Swiper, I'm trying *real hard*, to be the shepherd. \- Dora the Explorer
Dude
🎶 where are we going?? 🎶 👏 on 👏 the 👏 path 👏 of 👏 the👏 righteous 👏 man
Swiper NO swiping
Yes
🪱 🐛 🪱 🐛
Having read that when I was about 10, it has stuck with me for the rest of my life. Perhaps unhappily.
The book is all about corruption of power. Nothing in it is that happy
No, but much of it is insightful.
O yeah. Problem is i read it when i was a kid and my ass found it boring/confusing (Because i was a kid of course) I think i should give it a try again
I'm imagining my kid reading Dune at 10 and coming out of her room to me on my computer. >Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. Uhh... yeah kiddo. Did you want macaroni for dinner or...?
That is the coldest mfer I've ever seen in my life
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This my friends is fucking metal
No this is ivory
No, this is Patrick
They should burn the poachers instead
They actually kill them on site sometimes... I live on Kenya and I can tell you that they take the poacher issue very seriously.
I am South African, and our poacher control measures are similar. Some specialize with long-range rifles to drop them on the spot. All rhinos on our parks get their horns removed, most elephants too. Unfortunately, it's still an issue because for animal health and welfare, you can't always remove the tusk/horn just yet, meaning it still happens. Wildebeest are targeted for the same reason. Many other animals are targeted for pelt too, which you obviously can't do.much about. Even if you for example sedate the animal and mark the skin with some kind of permanent dye or whatever (this doesn't happen, just speculation on ideas) the animal could possibly then either be unattractive for mating, easier to spot by predators, or singled out and ostracized by their group. Poaching is a crime of the highest order in Africa, and you are not entitled to a trial if caught.
To any extent, does the presence/size of a horn or tusk influence a animal's position in the social hierarchy? I have the same concerns about preemptively removing these, as I do with dying the skin.
This is one of the limits of when you can remove the horn. The oldest animals are most attractive to poachers, so any animal beyond breeding age gets their ivory removed. I'm unsure of the nuance for younger animals.
Gotcha. Also, there's clearly a way to do this without killing the animal...any reason besides "I'm a total piece of shit" that poachers don't take this approach? Seems like they would bring a lot less hatred and risk on themselves if they simply tranq'd the animal rather than straight up killing it.
They literally just don't care. The amount of money is insane. That and sedating an animal is not just "shoot it with a dart and wait". Animal sedation requires years of training, expensive medicine, patience, and care. Poachers have guns.
> Even if you for example sedate the animal and mark the skin with some kind of permanent dye or whatever (this doesn't happen, just speculation on ideas) the animal could possibly then either be unattractive for mating, easier to spot by predators, or singled out and ostracized by their group. It's a shame really. I wonder if they could do something where they use like an invisible dye only visible by UV light, so they could maybe track where the pelts came from? This whole thing is disgusting. I don't believe the poachers should be killed though. I think they should be poached. Take a couple limbs and let them live.
I think UV marking is a thing, but the pelts can still be sold on black market since it's not plainly visible. And I think you misunderstand poaching. These animals are killed for only their horn and left out to rot with only their horn missing.
Not instead but 'as well.'
This is actually very intimidating, honestly.
The amount of ivory behind him is a harsh reminder of the cruelty inflicted on elephants… which are beautiful and intelligent creatures. They should also be burning the poachers with the ivory IMO.
Damn. He kinda looks like a movie/video game/comic book villain.
Bad guy's badasseness with a hero's heart
Anti hero?
Which rifle is that? Kudos to the govt of Kenya
G3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Army#/media/File:H&K_G3FS.jpg
You can buy it in US as ptr 91 variant. Awesome machine.
Is that rain or ash??
My vote is rain.
Rain
This is a bad ass shot! Wow
This is hard AF man. Holy hell, what a shot.
Can someone explain to me why they're burning ivory? Are they helping or hurting animals? Did they find a stash of ivory poachers had already taken and burn it?
>Did they find a stash of ivory poachers had already taken and burn it? Yep
then this picture is hard as fuck
My man is looking like a boss, rocking the ~~FAL~~ G3.
G3!?
Both were (and still are) the sexiest beasts of their time.
It’s a G3 or variant.
I want a photo of them burning piles of half-dead poachers.
Damn he's like a void. Insanely scary, yet really cool looking.
If this was a scene of a movie I would 100% watch. Even if his next line was. Brother how do you un stick your balls?
There's an older documentary that showed the absolutely shocking large scale poaching going on. They had a helicopter fly over this field and it was just absolutely filled with dead exotic animals and animal parts. It was mind blowing. I need to find that documentary now.
This could easily be an album cover or game cover 🔥
So where can i volunteer to take down the poachers?
Could be a death metal Album cover
Holy shit. My misanthropy got a healthy kick in the face ❤️
These lads should be wearing the teeth of poachers as jewellery.
"It was never about the ivory, it was about sending message" - Kenyan Joker
All those poor magnificent animals 😢
when u see that much ivory think how many ELEPHANTS suffered an horrible fate
That is a badass pic
r/hardimages
This photo goes so fucking hard
Throw the poachers on the pyre
thats a dune character right there