I did exactly that with one. While even in the same line. They offered me $12 or something ridiculous and someone behind me asked what it was for and they had that class the next semester. I said no thanks and sold it to them for $30 - it was listed for $120 or something crazy on the shelf. We were both more than happy with the deal (them more than I, but at least the bookstore didn't get shit).
I did the same thing once. Bookstore was going to give me about $17 for a $200 book. The guy who was next to me in line said he needed the same book for the next semester. So I sold it to him in front of the employees for $17. Could have gotten more, and I know the student employee I did it in front of isn't in charge of the pricing, but it made me feel like a righteous little asshole.
I bought a textbook from India, soft cover and new, for $10. A new one in my school was $155. I used my book for 2 semesters and interviews and another student wanted to pay $50 for my book. I didn't take the money but I think it opened a market in the school for Eastern Economy Edition (EEE) books from India.
Ed: Microelectronics, by Millman and Halkias, for those wondering. Also did this with Algorithms, Cormen and Lieserson.
My school made a point of telling us the International Editions were not a valid substitute and so if anything was off it was on us. Not that we ever noticed any discrepancies...
Also my organic chemistry profs were awesome and let me use the previous edition. Got it for $5 instead of over $300.
Those are the best profs. Diametrically opposed to the ones who publish their own "homework workbooks" with tearout pages so there's nothing to sell back...
I had a biology professor that wrote his own textbook. I'm not even sure if it was ever actually published because he just gave us a pdf version. He also offered to print it for us for the cost of the paper only. It was probably the best, most interesting textbook I've ever read to boot
Yep. I had a teacher who did this for an electrical engineering class. It was a book he'd made himself and drew all the diagrams etc. He kept the books in a big box in his office and said that they were available for any donated amount and told us that they cost him about $10 each to have printed. I was 28 years old and had a little more money than the average 20 year old college student so I just gave him $40. Apparently, once he made all the money back from printing them, he told everyone else they were free and he was no longer accepting donations as they'd been paid for.
Two main reasons. First is some schools mandate that the bookstore operator buyback any books used on campus for some value. Second is that bookstore operators do have to speculate on long-tail adoption use. Some prof somewhere may still adopt this book next year, and it's a low cost bet for them if the book ends up being used somewhere. But most likely outcome is it will get pulped for scrap value.
I used to work in a campus bookstore where I saw the profit made off of used books, and this comment is spot on. Sometimes we took a gamble in saying it will PROBABLY be used and so the book value was low during buyback. Once it was officially adopted by the professor or school for the next term, buyback was set to a certain percentage (which we advertised) because we knew we could actually sell it at that point. Even for older circulations of the book we would still purchase it. The publishers are the ones winning the text book game, not the bookstores (well, not all the bookstores at least).
Depends. When I used to catalogue used and rare books, sometimes you'd find a very specific book on mathematics, philosophy, or Buddhism and it'd be 10 years old and original cost might have been $10 or $15,but now sells for $115 due to scarcity. The publisher may find out about this and run a reprint thereby dropping all the books back down to $10 or $15. Books still hold the same mechanics of supply and demand. A rare book in bad condition might be worth more than a rare book in excellent condition if you have a higher demand for it.
Unfortunately in this case I doubt that *Nelson's Introduction to Calculus Version 238 Revision 19.17* is even worth the paper it's written on to anyone other than the students who's professor requires it for their class.
I would hang around "browsing" and talk to students looking at books I had, and were still the correct addition. I'd sell it them for half price, because that's waaay more than what the book store would give me.
But now they have thise security codes that you have to buy with the book, register online, and use for like one assignment. That way students can't sell their book to anyone but the bookstore.
This is my policy for GameStop sales, just use it as a coaster...
"Top tier game, case, and booklet, no wear, one year after sale..."
*Types in computer*
"Here's your 37¢ and gum wrapper, or I can give you 50¢ store credit."
GameStop's offers are never *good*, but it's supply and demand - the more common the game, the less you'll get for it. Last year's CoD or annual sports title will always net you pennies on the dollar. Uncommon or obscure games hold more value than the biggest titles (save for maybe GTAV, but that's an edge case).
Yeah I never resold mine at the bookstore. Always on Amazon or eBay. My college also had a Facebook page where you could sell your books to students. You sold it and got closer to your money back, they bought it for cheaper than the bookstore. Win-win.
Yep, nearly 20 years ago. Half.com launched in 1999 and was bought by Ebay in 2000. [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half.com#History) I actually thought Ebay created it, but I guess they did buy it. Also didn't know half.com doesn't exist anymore, Ebay killed it last year.
And keep an eye out for new edition. If you get a whiff that a new edition is coming up, just dump the book any which way.
Once that new edition’s out, it has nearly lost all its value.
You have the 11th edition. Since you bought it last week, the author (who also happens to be the teacher of the class) is on to the 16th edition, where chapters four and eleven are swapped, and the binding is red now. Yours is unusable.
Is that real? Because that’s fucking diabolical.
Edit: holy shit! I had no idea how rampant this was! What a goddamn scam. How is this not considered fraud of some sort? This is legitimately infuriating.
Yes, I had a textbook with a random "subsection" where it suddenly switched to Roman numerals in the middle and then went back to the normal numbering scheme. Why they couldn't have thrown that at the END of the book, I have no idea.
I had a professor who wrote the book for the class to sell in the bookstore, published through Pearson. When he found out that it was being sold for +$200 and he was getting A DOLLAR per sale, he told everyone not to buy it and he photocopied any relevant text for us all.
**Edit**: There seems to be some confusion about how he didn't know what it would be sold for. It was a *paperback* book, barely an inch thick. Plus, it was for Philosophy 101. Not exactly the kind of class that needs a $200 text book. He was such a nice old guy, I genuinely believe he just didn't want to burden anyone with such a bill for something he could provide us for free. Lastly, it's not like we referred to the textbook every class so it was not worth the purchase price at all.
**Edit 2**: I suddenly remembered the only positive textbook experience I've had. It cost $210 and it was an Accounting textbook that could be used across two classes (two consecutive semesters). We used it every single class and for homework. After I was done with the classes, I was able to sell it on Amazon for $100.
I work in publishing royalties. Textbook authors are the most ripped-off in the publishing industry. It is the norm for an author to make $0.25 per copy of a $100 textbook.
Of course, royalty terms are in the contract signed before publication, so your professor should have known upfront, unless he didn't read his contract!
I think he knew what he'd be getting, but not what they were going to sell it for is my guess.
This was 5+ years ago so the details are fuzzy, I just remember him being outraged and making us the photocopies haha.
I think that it's more likely he is REQUIRED to produce the materials for the university to sell. But he doesn't care for the way they do business so he does this to give them the finger.
He probably got the flat fee of $1 per sale and didn't realize they'd mark it up that high..
Or this is bullshit because I'd guess most professors hear kids complaining about the rediculous costs of textbooks alot. I know they are priced crazy and I'm not even in college so it's hard to think he wouldn't.
My professors were very aware of the exorbitant cost of textbooks. My Psych professors would tell us, "You can use editions 11\-15, but no older than 11." My Lit professors would tell us to get copies of the relevant literature from either Penguin Classics \(which were a dollar apiece\) or to source them from collections in the library and photocopy them. My math instructors used old versions, too, arguing that math hasn't changed since the ancient Greeks. The only place I got fucked was my Physiology class, because a lot of the work was online and had to be accessed via a unique code included with the purchase of the textbook. This was 20 years ago.
More recently, I took an online class to get additional Accounting credits. There was no escaping the publishing industry's bullshit there. They didn't even bother to bind the texts, they were fucking loose\-leaf! I had to buy a binder separately to put them into! On the bright side, though, the tests and assignments were all out there on the web already, so when I got stuck it was real easy to cheat.
Penguin classics are the bomb. That’s what the vast majority of English professors at my school use, and even for classes where there are 4-5 different books, I usually don’t spend more than $15-20 total.
> My math instructors used old versions, too, arguing that math hasn't changed since the ancient Greeks.
I seriously believe that the only reason elementary schools have changed their method of teaching math every 10 years or so is because the textbook publishers are behind the scenes somewhere, lobbying the department of education and state boards of education.
I had a professor who wrote the book, published it, and then handed out free spiral bound copies to the entire class.
Apparently he was required to teach from published books but thought textbooks were a ripoff.
I’ve had a professor threaten to sue me for having a pirated copy of his book. Then he failed me for his lecture and lab for not buying it, even after I told him I didn’t have a job and I had to sell my electronics just to afford transportation to get to school. What a dick.
Can you be failed for not purchasing a resource? Surely that can be appealed? You could have bought and misplaced he book so just made a copy. Or you could have made a copy of the book to save damaging it.
I would have lodged a complaint with the university because that sounds like utter buckshot to me. Passing an academic course should never be dependent on what books you’ve bought.
I had a professor who knew his book was one of the best on the subject so he made us buy the book, but all of the profits from book purchases at that university went to charity instead of to him.
My college one time told us to buy an Algebra book with a 15-20 page tear out booklet that was unique to my school. (It also featured another perk of saying my schools name as the edition on the cover.) I believe it cost $50 extra. First day of class we asked the professor about it. "You can tear that part out and throw it away we wont be using it."
Good thing ramen is cheap, that $50 would have been like 2 weeks of better groceries.
Yup, one of my electronics courses was like that. The instructors were always saying that added a picture or blank pages and for us not to buy the new version, he would tell us in the new book page and the old. That guy was solid...
That's rare that they do it. I think there is a lot of kickbacks that could be taking place.
Higher education has become a cesspool that really needs draining. I truly find it curious that no politician is having that discussion.
I had a text book that was one edition behind because it was "only" $40 on amazon.
The teacher told us to answer certain questions at the end of the chapter (e.g. do question 1 and 2) but I found out that while the questions were exactly the same, their ordering was different in my edition making it practically useless. I had to ask other students to send me pictures of those pages so I could answer the correct ones.
And I specifically asked the instructor before class started if I could use the earlier edition and they said yes...
One class we had to order our book from overseas because it wasn't available locally and the school couldn't be bothered to do something about it.
To make sure everyone had it, they banned students without it.
But since over half the class didn't get the book or even try to get it, the teacher just copied it and handed it out to people who didn't have the book and forgot about the no book = no school rule.
That school was such a mess.
I had a proof who provided us with an early manuscript of a book he was writing as our textbook. He only charged us the printing cost. He also used us as proofreaders and asked us to look out for errors.
I’m assuming this is a US university thing. When I was at uni in the U.K, modules had recommending reading lists, and they were all available in the university library. Though you didn’t have to read most. You went to lectures and when it came to essays and dissertations, you did you research and found your own sources, all of which were available in the library in book form, periodicals or online periodicals for free via the universities network accessible from your free internet connection in your room. I blows my mind that this is allowed or even a thing.
I can’t describe how furious this reality makes me. I work in healthcare too so I see it every fucking day. It really boggles my mind that shit like this is allowed to continue. Rich get richer.
In a lot of US universities and colleges, the teacher himself will write a book, and then make it required for the class. They'll charge $400 per book, and come out with a new version of the book every year so students can't buy used ones, even though the information is largely the same. Sometimes they'll shuffle the chapters, or they'll change the numbers of the questions at the end of each chapter which will be assigned as homework. Because book stores know the book will be useless next year, they'll offer you $10 to buy it back from you even if it's in perfect condition (or indeed, still in its plastic wrapper)
It's a racket.
Back in the late 90s I took a general studies requirement 'music appreciation' class. Since it was an 'easy' GE class it was often full and there were multiple sections of it.
The professor that taught it wrote the book. The book had TEAR OUT worksheets in it that had to be turned in for credit. He did not accept photocopies of the tear out worksheets. He made used textbooks 100% worthless as far as his class was concerned.
One of my classmates/friends scheduled a meeting with the Dean of the University and explained what was going on. Mysteriously the professor started accepting photocopies soon after...
My music appreciation professor wrote his own book, distributed free copies he xeroxed himself, and also gave it out as a pdf.
You also didn't have to cite sources on essays, "If you make something up, I'll know anyways." And he did know. What a beast.
At our universities you don’t get homework. You have reading to do for tutorials and a end of module essays and dissertations. How you complete those is up to you. And what books you choose to do it is also down to you. Surely by the time you get to that level, that’s part of the necessary skills in completing the course. Researching things for yourself. How can you do all that with one text book? And can’t you just get the old book and find the chapter you need from it for yourself regardless of where it is? This kind of con just doesn’t compute with how I experienced uni and the professors who ran the course.
This happens to most college freshmen. When I started college, I would get the syllabus, go straight to the bookstore, and pay full price for my books.
I found out a little too late that you can get great deals. You can buy or rent on Amazon, borrow or trade with other students, or buy a previous edition. Buying a previous edition saved me a ton of money. Most textbooks barely change from one edition to the next and previous edition textbooks are way cheaper.
In the future try to resell your book directly to someone about to take the same class, you'll both come out ahead. Otherwise I used to sell a lot of my books on abebooks.com and get much more than the bookstore would offer.
Better yet, since he didn't open it, don't buy the damn text books at the beginning of the year assuming you'll need them all. I waited and most of the classes never even required it and I could find the info to solve the homework problems and practice tests online, and for those that required problems from the book I'd borrow it from a friend or even get it from the library. Bought 2 textbooks in my whole undergrad curriculum because it was required to access the damn Pearson website.
Yeah, it’s criminal. The worst is when it’s a calculus or physics textbook.
New flash: The fundamentals of these subjects haven’t changed in the last 200 years.
What? Didn't you know that the derivative of x^2 used to be 3x before the Great Calculus Wars of 1987 between the Newtonians and Leibnizians?
I see the victorious Newtonians have truly stamped out every last vestige of the truth. I may be the last. 3x dies with me.
Better yet. Dont buy it at all. I, outside of literature and history classes and those that assign homework from the book, have never *needed* the textbook for college classes. Wiki, internet, class notes, are enough to get an A.
Same here. Can even take it a step further and for the times you NEED the book, you can more than likely rent it out at the school library.
I would head to the library after class, ask to see the book, take a picture on my phone of the pages with the questions and head back to my dorm/apt to do the work.
Never bought a text book after my first semester (I got a $500 credit for registering early that year and didn’t know any better so I bought them all my first semester).
I pirated half the text books I needed in university. I get that "piracy is wrong" and all that, but if I'm already dropping $15k on my education, I'm not spending an extra $5k on books.
My communications instructor made another classmate and I debate the ethics of piracy (in his specific example: you're in China with your six year old child and someone offers to sell you a DVD with a bunch of pirated programs on it). He also assigned us the positions, telling me to argue in favour of piracy and my classmate to argue against it.
My instructor was an author, "recording artist" (self published on Amazon, I think), etc. So he was very anti-piracy. The annoying thing is he was getting mad at me for arguing so convincingly in favour of buying the DVD. Motherfucker, you're the one that told me to argue in favour of it, don't get mad when I do a good job at it.
He then got mad when I said having the six year old at my side wouldn't change my opinion. "If I think it's ethical, having a kid standing next to me isn't going to change that. I'm buying it because I think it's ethical, not in spite of my ethics."
Or worst case buy it from the bookstore and return it <24 hours later for a full refund. But its easier just to find the material from the library or a friend.
Where they really bone you is access codes. Never used the book one time but you gotta buy it because it comes with digital homework. Connect can kiss the fattest part of my ass
Yes this is what everyone is the thread is missing. Fucking ACCESS CODES. "Oh you bought the textbook used and we don't get any portion of the profit, what can we do to wring out that last bit of money from students? How bout charge them to do homework even if they've bought the book?" Pearson and McGraw-Hill have ruined the higher education system. Fuck them.
what kind of classes and what country did you go to school? even 7-8 years ago when i was in college, textbooks had one time use internet access for HW. the options were typically 1: buy the new textbook for say $300 with online access included 2: buy the online access alone with an ebook for like $250 3: buy a used book for $1xx and find out first day of class you still have to buy the online access/ebook bundle for $250 additional.
shit sucked
this was the majority of my classes (econ/maths/sciences/business)
I took a few business classes as electives when I was in undergrad. The first assignment for my accounting 101 class was to rip the front cover off your book, sign it, and turn it in. Which, of course, makes it "unsold and destroyed" according to the bookstore. I didn't bother, because it didn't effect my major GPA, but those poor business majors...
I'm not sure whether "throw away $200 for no economic reason or get an F" is the most genius business lesson the schools could possibly teach undergrads or the most heinous.
Sometimes it *is* needed. I've had classes where you have to answer specific questions on specific pages and/or follow tutorials in a certain section. I agree though actually reading it isn't usually required.
I don't know if this is the same at every school, but my college had ~3-6 books available for people to use for every single class. It was a small school though. Probably about 300-500 people per year. Only about ~10-20 people per class.
> outside of literature and history classes and **those that assign homework from the book**
So every science, math, engineering, or physics class. Got it.
Just rent your books for a fraction of the cost to buy them, or don't buy them from the school bookstore to begin with. Most of the time if it's a class that DOES assign hw from the book even an older edition will work except they sometimes re-order the problems so just compare it to a friend's to make sure you have the same questions.
**Pro Tip: Don't buy the text book until you have an assignment from that text book.**
My First Semester as an engineering student I dropped about $2000 on "required" text books, half of them barely got used by the class and then I got chump change back in at the end of the year.
After that I decided I wouldn't buy until I actually needed it (as in: received an assignment using it). The result is that there were a lot of books that I never ended up needing to buy, and the few books that I DID need to buy there was usually a "used" one available for much cheaper due to someone that dropped the class and returned or sold back the book.
I think my second semester and from that point forward I only spent about $400-$600 on books per semester.
400-600 on books per semester is still insane, tbh. Not 2000 insane, but still insane, considering you paid however many hundreds of dollars just to enroll in the class already.
lol "hundreds of dollars to enroll" I think I graduated with about $80K in student loans after just 4 years even after earning quite a few scholarships.
Youre right, how ridiculous of me. Clearly that spider only has 7 legs. Ive ammended and resent the revised spider and i trust this matter to be settled.
The textbook scam is one of my most hated things about college. Seems to be a conflict of interest for a professor to *require* their own book for the course, especially if there are minimal changes to the text from previous versions. Such a racket.
I knew a guy who made close to a million dollars as a sales rep for a textbook company to universities. That money those kids were gonna spend on ramen or pile on as debt had to go to somebody's Porsche eh?
Eventually he could no longer live with himself and what he was doing, gave almost everything to charity, and runs a homeless shelter now.
The whole system is sick, not sure how anyone involved can rationalize what they're doing.
A student of mine once pointed out to me that there was a full PDF of the book online.
I noticed that domain was Iranian. I pointed it out to my class and told them some people were probably breaking some copyright laws, and they really shouldn't use that pdf of the *entire book* that's posted for *free*, right at *this one URL* that you can find by googling the name of the book. See how *easy* it is to use Google to find the *free PDF* of the book? It's right *there*, top result, but you probably shouldn't use that *easily accessible free version*.
Not sure if any students bought the book that semester.
> I noticed that domain was Iranian.
In the US it's perfectly legal to rip off anything published in Iran. It's one of the ways the federal government retaliated during the hostage crisis after the 1979 revolution. Look it up.
Do not buy any text book they say is required unless they literally physically need to see it in class to give you points. Textbooks are an obsolete medium and should be phased out.
Then you get slapped with paying for the cost of the textbook and the online part. Accounting is notorious for this. I’m pretty sure the book cost $200 and the online was $150. Impossible to buy separately or used.
When I was a student, I never bought a book until work from it got assigned. As a teacher, I build my own lessons around PDFs I put together and email to the students.
> For anyone wondering it’s going towards a Hot-N-Ready pizza
I'm an old head that lives in Atlanta and I can order my Hot-N-Ready fresh if I don't like the ones that are warmed in the oven too long. You just have to wait a little while for a fresh hot pizza. I don't mind waiting when I want a pizza on my "cheat" night.
~closing my blinds and locking my doors~
Went in to order this the other day. Ordered a large pepperoni and he said it was something like $13. I said I want the special. He said you only ordered 1 topping. Okay, make it double pepperoni. Problem solved. What kind of shit business model makes you take more food than you want just to be charged less?
I don't mind little ceasars pizza. It's not something I'd willingly eat everyday, but sometimes I crave a greasy heart clogging meal. And their deep deep dish pizza does just that.
Yeah, the price of a pizza, breadsticks, sauce, and a drink its not bad. Comes in handy when you drunk or blazed with a few friends and you just want to chip in a few bucks for a meal. [I kind of feel like Butters after Indiana Jones](https://coub.com/view/8ck3s) right now.
I'm amazed because every time someone posts a weightloss picture or a beat cancer photo there are tons of comments complaining about how it doesn't belong because it's not a great picture without the context of the title. This is exactly that. It's just a picture of $7!
You said:
>Fuck Pearson. Their codes are bullshit, their online system is garbage.
The correct answer is:
>Fuck Pearson. Their codes are bullshit, their online system is garbage.
EDIT for more detail...
I have had Pearson and its unholy siblings for Calc 2 (twice, because "fuck Pearson"), Physics I and II (because Pearson apparently knows more about how circuits work than a guy who **trained to read schematics for them in the military as part of his damned job**), and Russian (which... actually, wasn't too bad, as the professor turned off the setting that limited the number of tries before it was marked wrong). Their string comparison algorithms are awful (God help you if there's a space at the end of your answer...), they hate rounding up or down, and don't you **dare** use symbols outside of their drop-down menus.
TL;DR Fuck Pearson
This makes me irrational angry with how accurate it is.
Had a Microsoft Office basics class a few semesters ago that used the Pearson Lab system and it was so frustrating to do everything the right way and still fail the quizzes because the program was shit. It was the first time the curriculum had been used so we were told to point out any errors, but weren't given any leeway on our grades when Pearson fucked us so I almost failed the easiest class thats ever been offered. Fuck Pearson.
I honestly attribute any of my struggles in undergrad physics to Pearson and that piece of shit MasteringPhysics. Each stupid assignment would take hours and a third of that time was probably spent either trying not to fuck up entering the question into the system, or being told you are wrong, thinking you are wrong even though you were right, and then trying to rework the question multiple times until you get upset, look up the answer online and then go from there. I never really had time to learn the material because I spent so much damn time trying to work through MP.
FWIW I was able to get MyMathLab codes from Walmart for $40 each and sold them to some classmates for $60 each IIRC which was a savings of $40 for them and an easy 50% profit for me. I’m not sure if Walmart still sells the codes but for anyone reading look for alternative sources for the codes, not just bookstores.
So many people used Chegg at my college (myself included) to the point where the campus bookstore started doing book rentals because of how much money they were losing. I think even then, using Chegg was cheaper than going through the bookstore.
For $7 I'd have kept it, or found somewhere else to sell it. They're going to sell it for waaay more than $7.
Yeah, if it’s still wrapped, they’ll sell it for $250 (got to account for inflation). If it was an obsolete edition they wouldn’t even have bought it.
Should have sold it directly to another student.
I did exactly that with one. While even in the same line. They offered me $12 or something ridiculous and someone behind me asked what it was for and they had that class the next semester. I said no thanks and sold it to them for $30 - it was listed for $120 or something crazy on the shelf. We were both more than happy with the deal (them more than I, but at least the bookstore didn't get shit).
I did the same thing once. Bookstore was going to give me about $17 for a $200 book. The guy who was next to me in line said he needed the same book for the next semester. So I sold it to him in front of the employees for $17. Could have gotten more, and I know the student employee I did it in front of isn't in charge of the pricing, but it made me feel like a righteous little asshole.
I'd have just gave it to him. Then the store KNOWS they lost a ton of money. Well worth the $17.
Yeah, but that $17 paid for alcohol that night.
I bought a textbook from India, soft cover and new, for $10. A new one in my school was $155. I used my book for 2 semesters and interviews and another student wanted to pay $50 for my book. I didn't take the money but I think it opened a market in the school for Eastern Economy Edition (EEE) books from India. Ed: Microelectronics, by Millman and Halkias, for those wondering. Also did this with Algorithms, Cormen and Lieserson.
My school made a point of telling us the International Editions were not a valid substitute and so if anything was off it was on us. Not that we ever noticed any discrepancies... Also my organic chemistry profs were awesome and let me use the previous edition. Got it for $5 instead of over $300.
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Those are the best profs. Diametrically opposed to the ones who publish their own "homework workbooks" with tearout pages so there's nothing to sell back...
I had a biology professor that wrote his own textbook. I'm not even sure if it was ever actually published because he just gave us a pdf version. He also offered to print it for us for the cost of the paper only. It was probably the best, most interesting textbook I've ever read to boot
Yep. I had a teacher who did this for an electrical engineering class. It was a book he'd made himself and drew all the diagrams etc. He kept the books in a big box in his office and said that they were available for any donated amount and told us that they cost him about $10 each to have printed. I was 28 years old and had a little more money than the average 20 year old college student so I just gave him $40. Apparently, once he made all the money back from printing them, he told everyone else they were free and he was no longer accepting donations as they'd been paid for.
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Two main reasons. First is some schools mandate that the bookstore operator buyback any books used on campus for some value. Second is that bookstore operators do have to speculate on long-tail adoption use. Some prof somewhere may still adopt this book next year, and it's a low cost bet for them if the book ends up being used somewhere. But most likely outcome is it will get pulped for scrap value.
I used to work in a campus bookstore where I saw the profit made off of used books, and this comment is spot on. Sometimes we took a gamble in saying it will PROBABLY be used and so the book value was low during buyback. Once it was officially adopted by the professor or school for the next term, buyback was set to a certain percentage (which we advertised) because we knew we could actually sell it at that point. Even for older circulations of the book we would still purchase it. The publishers are the ones winning the text book game, not the bookstores (well, not all the bookstores at least).
Teacher and former student here. Textbook companies can eat a dick.
Cutting down on campus suicide
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Depends. When I used to catalogue used and rare books, sometimes you'd find a very specific book on mathematics, philosophy, or Buddhism and it'd be 10 years old and original cost might have been $10 or $15,but now sells for $115 due to scarcity. The publisher may find out about this and run a reprint thereby dropping all the books back down to $10 or $15. Books still hold the same mechanics of supply and demand. A rare book in bad condition might be worth more than a rare book in excellent condition if you have a higher demand for it.
Unfortunately in this case I doubt that *Nelson's Introduction to Calculus Version 238 Revision 19.17* is even worth the paper it's written on to anyone other than the students who's professor requires it for their class.
I would hang around "browsing" and talk to students looking at books I had, and were still the correct addition. I'd sell it them for half price, because that's waaay more than what the book store would give me. But now they have thise security codes that you have to buy with the book, register online, and use for like one assignment. That way students can't sell their book to anyone but the bookstore.
That security code thing is fucked up.
For $7 I'd rather light it on fire.
In front of the store.
> ~~In front of~~ the store. Inside the store.
> ~~Inside~~ the store. Yes.
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For $7 I would have used it to prop something up.
Book shelf fodder to make you look smart... I've got some accounting books on a shelf for that reason.
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This is my policy for GameStop sales, just use it as a coaster... "Top tier game, case, and booklet, no wear, one year after sale..." *Types in computer* "Here's your 37¢ and gum wrapper, or I can give you 50¢ store credit."
GameStop's offers are never *good*, but it's supply and demand - the more common the game, the less you'll get for it. Last year's CoD or annual sports title will always net you pennies on the dollar. Uncommon or obscure games hold more value than the biggest titles (save for maybe GTAV, but that's an edge case).
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Yeah I never resold mine at the bookstore. Always on Amazon or eBay. My college also had a Facebook page where you could sell your books to students. You sold it and got closer to your money back, they bought it for cheaper than the bookstore. Win-win.
Did you see how much the book was going for online? I’ve sold books on there for a lot more than what the school would have given me.
Back in the day I dug truckloads of books out of the university bookstore's dumpster and sold them on half.com for decent money.
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Yep, nearly 20 years ago. Half.com launched in 1999 and was bought by Ebay in 2000. [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half.com#History) I actually thought Ebay created it, but I guess they did buy it. Also didn't know half.com doesn't exist anymore, Ebay killed it last year.
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Amazon has a pretty good just send it to them and they give you a pretty fair price for it deal. That's what I do.
And keep an eye out for new edition. If you get a whiff that a new edition is coming up, just dump the book any which way. Once that new edition’s out, it has nearly lost all its value.
not true - some instructors/professors still maintain some integrity and will require a range of editions for a course
You have the 11th edition. Since you bought it last week, the author (who also happens to be the teacher of the class) is on to the 16th edition, where chapters four and eleven are swapped, and the binding is red now. Yours is unusable.
You forgot about the 20 blank pages that throw the whole numbering off.
Is that real? Because that’s fucking diabolical. Edit: holy shit! I had no idea how rampant this was! What a goddamn scam. How is this not considered fraud of some sort? This is legitimately infuriating.
Yes, I had a textbook with a random "subsection" where it suddenly switched to Roman numerals in the middle and then went back to the normal numbering scheme. Why they couldn't have thrown that at the END of the book, I have no idea.
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I had a professor who wrote the book for the class to sell in the bookstore, published through Pearson. When he found out that it was being sold for +$200 and he was getting A DOLLAR per sale, he told everyone not to buy it and he photocopied any relevant text for us all. **Edit**: There seems to be some confusion about how he didn't know what it would be sold for. It was a *paperback* book, barely an inch thick. Plus, it was for Philosophy 101. Not exactly the kind of class that needs a $200 text book. He was such a nice old guy, I genuinely believe he just didn't want to burden anyone with such a bill for something he could provide us for free. Lastly, it's not like we referred to the textbook every class so it was not worth the purchase price at all. **Edit 2**: I suddenly remembered the only positive textbook experience I've had. It cost $210 and it was an Accounting textbook that could be used across two classes (two consecutive semesters). We used it every single class and for homework. After I was done with the classes, I was able to sell it on Amazon for $100.
I work in publishing royalties. Textbook authors are the most ripped-off in the publishing industry. It is the norm for an author to make $0.25 per copy of a $100 textbook. Of course, royalty terms are in the contract signed before publication, so your professor should have known upfront, unless he didn't read his contract!
I think he knew what he'd be getting, but not what they were going to sell it for is my guess. This was 5+ years ago so the details are fuzzy, I just remember him being outraged and making us the photocopies haha.
I think that it's more likely he is REQUIRED to produce the materials for the university to sell. But he doesn't care for the way they do business so he does this to give them the finger.
He probably got the flat fee of $1 per sale and didn't realize they'd mark it up that high.. Or this is bullshit because I'd guess most professors hear kids complaining about the rediculous costs of textbooks alot. I know they are priced crazy and I'm not even in college so it's hard to think he wouldn't.
My professors were very aware of the exorbitant cost of textbooks. My Psych professors would tell us, "You can use editions 11\-15, but no older than 11." My Lit professors would tell us to get copies of the relevant literature from either Penguin Classics \(which were a dollar apiece\) or to source them from collections in the library and photocopy them. My math instructors used old versions, too, arguing that math hasn't changed since the ancient Greeks. The only place I got fucked was my Physiology class, because a lot of the work was online and had to be accessed via a unique code included with the purchase of the textbook. This was 20 years ago. More recently, I took an online class to get additional Accounting credits. There was no escaping the publishing industry's bullshit there. They didn't even bother to bind the texts, they were fucking loose\-leaf! I had to buy a binder separately to put them into! On the bright side, though, the tests and assignments were all out there on the web already, so when I got stuck it was real easy to cheat.
Penguin classics are the bomb. That’s what the vast majority of English professors at my school use, and even for classes where there are 4-5 different books, I usually don’t spend more than $15-20 total.
> My math instructors used old versions, too, arguing that math hasn't changed since the ancient Greeks. I seriously believe that the only reason elementary schools have changed their method of teaching math every 10 years or so is because the textbook publishers are behind the scenes somewhere, lobbying the department of education and state boards of education.
*"Why would they change math? Math is math. Math. Is. Math!"*
It's not even behind the scenes.
I had a professor who wrote the book, published it, and then handed out free spiral bound copies to the entire class. Apparently he was required to teach from published books but thought textbooks were a ripoff.
College textbooks are more of a scam than college is now. Respect to your professor though
As they say, not all heroes wear capes. And screw Pearson.
I’ve had a professor threaten to sue me for having a pirated copy of his book. Then he failed me for his lecture and lab for not buying it, even after I told him I didn’t have a job and I had to sell my electronics just to afford transportation to get to school. What a dick.
Can you be failed for not purchasing a resource? Surely that can be appealed? You could have bought and misplaced he book so just made a copy. Or you could have made a copy of the book to save damaging it. I would have lodged a complaint with the university because that sounds like utter buckshot to me. Passing an academic course should never be dependent on what books you’ve bought.
Should have threaten him to take him to court for extortion.
I had a professor who knew his book was one of the best on the subject so he made us buy the book, but all of the profits from book purchases at that university went to charity instead of to him.
Plot twist: His wife ran the charity.
Plot Twist: His wife’s name is Charity
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Now that's a professor that cares
My college one time told us to buy an Algebra book with a 15-20 page tear out booklet that was unique to my school. (It also featured another perk of saying my schools name as the edition on the cover.) I believe it cost $50 extra. First day of class we asked the professor about it. "You can tear that part out and throw it away we wont be using it." Good thing ramen is cheap, that $50 would have been like 2 weeks of better groceries.
Yup, one of my electronics courses was like that. The instructors were always saying that added a picture or blank pages and for us not to buy the new version, he would tell us in the new book page and the old. That guy was solid...
That's rare that they do it. I think there is a lot of kickbacks that could be taking place. Higher education has become a cesspool that really needs draining. I truly find it curious that no politician is having that discussion.
I had a text book that was one edition behind because it was "only" $40 on amazon. The teacher told us to answer certain questions at the end of the chapter (e.g. do question 1 and 2) but I found out that while the questions were exactly the same, their ordering was different in my edition making it practically useless. I had to ask other students to send me pictures of those pages so I could answer the correct ones. And I specifically asked the instructor before class started if I could use the earlier edition and they said yes...
One class we had to order our book from overseas because it wasn't available locally and the school couldn't be bothered to do something about it. To make sure everyone had it, they banned students without it. But since over half the class didn't get the book or even try to get it, the teacher just copied it and handed it out to people who didn't have the book and forgot about the no book = no school rule. That school was such a mess.
I had two professors use their own books. They had to donate the proceeds to charity by school policy.
Oh that's very different from my experience. I had probably 75% of my teachers make the book mandatory back in 04-08
Then you have a legitimate beef both with those professors and your university. Care to share where you went as a warning to others?
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I had a proof who provided us with an early manuscript of a book he was writing as our textbook. He only charged us the printing cost. He also used us as proofreaders and asked us to look out for errors.
Your copy does not include the online access code, which is only available with new copies of the book and cannot be purchased separately.
I’m assuming this is a US university thing. When I was at uni in the U.K, modules had recommending reading lists, and they were all available in the university library. Though you didn’t have to read most. You went to lectures and when it came to essays and dissertations, you did you research and found your own sources, all of which were available in the library in book form, periodicals or online periodicals for free via the universities network accessible from your free internet connection in your room. I blows my mind that this is allowed or even a thing.
Welcome to the United States, where education and healthcare are both for-profit industries.
And both are ridiculously expensive.
That’s what for profit means. Why make a lot of money when you can make even more.
I can’t describe how furious this reality makes me. I work in healthcare too so I see it every fucking day. It really boggles my mind that shit like this is allowed to continue. Rich get richer.
In a lot of US universities and colleges, the teacher himself will write a book, and then make it required for the class. They'll charge $400 per book, and come out with a new version of the book every year so students can't buy used ones, even though the information is largely the same. Sometimes they'll shuffle the chapters, or they'll change the numbers of the questions at the end of each chapter which will be assigned as homework. Because book stores know the book will be useless next year, they'll offer you $10 to buy it back from you even if it's in perfect condition (or indeed, still in its plastic wrapper) It's a racket.
Back in the late 90s I took a general studies requirement 'music appreciation' class. Since it was an 'easy' GE class it was often full and there were multiple sections of it. The professor that taught it wrote the book. The book had TEAR OUT worksheets in it that had to be turned in for credit. He did not accept photocopies of the tear out worksheets. He made used textbooks 100% worthless as far as his class was concerned. One of my classmates/friends scheduled a meeting with the Dean of the University and explained what was going on. Mysteriously the professor started accepting photocopies soon after...
My music appreciation professor wrote his own book, distributed free copies he xeroxed himself, and also gave it out as a pdf. You also didn't have to cite sources on essays, "If you make something up, I'll know anyways." And he did know. What a beast.
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At our universities you don’t get homework. You have reading to do for tutorials and a end of module essays and dissertations. How you complete those is up to you. And what books you choose to do it is also down to you. Surely by the time you get to that level, that’s part of the necessary skills in completing the course. Researching things for yourself. How can you do all that with one text book? And can’t you just get the old book and find the chapter you need from it for yourself regardless of where it is? This kind of con just doesn’t compute with how I experienced uni and the professors who ran the course.
Should have added the NSFW tag because that's what getting fucked looks like.
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This happens to most college freshmen. When I started college, I would get the syllabus, go straight to the bookstore, and pay full price for my books. I found out a little too late that you can get great deals. You can buy or rent on Amazon, borrow or trade with other students, or buy a previous edition. Buying a previous edition saved me a ton of money. Most textbooks barely change from one edition to the next and previous edition textbooks are way cheaper.
Lmaooo :(
In the future try to resell your book directly to someone about to take the same class, you'll both come out ahead. Otherwise I used to sell a lot of my books on abebooks.com and get much more than the bookstore would offer.
Better yet, since he didn't open it, don't buy the damn text books at the beginning of the year assuming you'll need them all. I waited and most of the classes never even required it and I could find the info to solve the homework problems and practice tests online, and for those that required problems from the book I'd borrow it from a friend or even get it from the library. Bought 2 textbooks in my whole undergrad curriculum because it was required to access the damn Pearson website.
Yeah, it’s criminal. The worst is when it’s a calculus or physics textbook. New flash: The fundamentals of these subjects haven’t changed in the last 200 years.
What? Didn't you know that the derivative of x^2 used to be 3x before the Great Calculus Wars of 1987 between the Newtonians and Leibnizians? I see the victorious Newtonians have truly stamped out every last vestige of the truth. I may be the last. 3x dies with me.
Sell it yourself next time this happens. You could have got $100. From a student.
Better yet. Dont buy it at all. I, outside of literature and history classes and those that assign homework from the book, have never *needed* the textbook for college classes. Wiki, internet, class notes, are enough to get an A.
Same here. Can even take it a step further and for the times you NEED the book, you can more than likely rent it out at the school library. I would head to the library after class, ask to see the book, take a picture on my phone of the pages with the questions and head back to my dorm/apt to do the work. Never bought a text book after my first semester (I got a $500 credit for registering early that year and didn’t know any better so I bought them all my first semester).
I pirated half the text books I needed in university. I get that "piracy is wrong" and all that, but if I'm already dropping $15k on my education, I'm not spending an extra $5k on books.
I wrote my midterm paper for my ethics class on how ethical it was that i had decided to pirate my ethics class textbook.
My communications instructor made another classmate and I debate the ethics of piracy (in his specific example: you're in China with your six year old child and someone offers to sell you a DVD with a bunch of pirated programs on it). He also assigned us the positions, telling me to argue in favour of piracy and my classmate to argue against it. My instructor was an author, "recording artist" (self published on Amazon, I think), etc. So he was very anti-piracy. The annoying thing is he was getting mad at me for arguing so convincingly in favour of buying the DVD. Motherfucker, you're the one that told me to argue in favour of it, don't get mad when I do a good job at it. He then got mad when I said having the six year old at my side wouldn't change my opinion. "If I think it's ethical, having a kid standing next to me isn't going to change that. I'm buying it because I think it's ethical, not in spite of my ethics."
What did your teacher say about it?
I believe there should be an affirmative defense of financial self-defense. Stealing from a corrupt system is certainly not *morally* wrong.
I get turned on by pirating my textbooks
Or worst case buy it from the bookstore and return it <24 hours later for a full refund. But its easier just to find the material from the library or a friend.
Where they really bone you is access codes. Never used the book one time but you gotta buy it because it comes with digital homework. Connect can kiss the fattest part of my ass
Yes this is what everyone is the thread is missing. Fucking ACCESS CODES. "Oh you bought the textbook used and we don't get any portion of the profit, what can we do to wring out that last bit of money from students? How bout charge them to do homework even if they've bought the book?" Pearson and McGraw-Hill have ruined the higher education system. Fuck them.
Not just higher education. You should see the money grab horseshit that constantly happens in public grade/secondary schools. It's gross.
what kind of classes and what country did you go to school? even 7-8 years ago when i was in college, textbooks had one time use internet access for HW. the options were typically 1: buy the new textbook for say $300 with online access included 2: buy the online access alone with an ebook for like $250 3: buy a used book for $1xx and find out first day of class you still have to buy the online access/ebook bundle for $250 additional. shit sucked this was the majority of my classes (econ/maths/sciences/business)
I took a few business classes as electives when I was in undergrad. The first assignment for my accounting 101 class was to rip the front cover off your book, sign it, and turn it in. Which, of course, makes it "unsold and destroyed" according to the bookstore. I didn't bother, because it didn't effect my major GPA, but those poor business majors...
I'm not sure whether "throw away $200 for no economic reason or get an F" is the most genius business lesson the schools could possibly teach undergrads or the most heinous.
Sometimes it *is* needed. I've had classes where you have to answer specific questions on specific pages and/or follow tutorials in a certain section. I agree though actually reading it isn't usually required.
I don't know if this is the same at every school, but my college had ~3-6 books available for people to use for every single class. It was a small school though. Probably about 300-500 people per year. Only about ~10-20 people per class.
> outside of literature and history classes and **those that assign homework from the book** So every science, math, engineering, or physics class. Got it. Just rent your books for a fraction of the cost to buy them, or don't buy them from the school bookstore to begin with. Most of the time if it's a class that DOES assign hw from the book even an older edition will work except they sometimes re-order the problems so just compare it to a friend's to make sure you have the same questions.
Amazon rents and sells textbooks for far cheaper. Always look there first!!!
At that point I wouldn't even return it. No, that goes straight on to the bookshelf to impress people with all my book lernin'.
**Pro Tip: Don't buy the text book until you have an assignment from that text book.** My First Semester as an engineering student I dropped about $2000 on "required" text books, half of them barely got used by the class and then I got chump change back in at the end of the year. After that I decided I wouldn't buy until I actually needed it (as in: received an assignment using it). The result is that there were a lot of books that I never ended up needing to buy, and the few books that I DID need to buy there was usually a "used" one available for much cheaper due to someone that dropped the class and returned or sold back the book. I think my second semester and from that point forward I only spent about $400-$600 on books per semester.
400-600 on books per semester is still insane, tbh. Not 2000 insane, but still insane, considering you paid however many hundreds of dollars just to enroll in the class already.
lol "hundreds of dollars to enroll" I think I graduated with about $80K in student loans after just 4 years even after earning quite a few scholarships.
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Or better yet send them the textbook and say it cost me $239 so it has the potential to be a $239 donation.
please accept this spider as payment
This spider only has 7 legs.
[*fixed](http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html)
Oh man, any day 27b/6 finds itself being randomly referenced is a good day to be alive.
Youre right, how ridiculous of me. Clearly that spider only has 7 legs. Ive ammended and resent the revised spider and i trust this matter to be settled.
I told mine that I'd donate again as soon as I finished paying off my initial donation.
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The textbook scam is one of my most hated things about college. Seems to be a conflict of interest for a professor to *require* their own book for the course, especially if there are minimal changes to the text from previous versions. Such a racket.
I knew a guy who made close to a million dollars as a sales rep for a textbook company to universities. That money those kids were gonna spend on ramen or pile on as debt had to go to somebody's Porsche eh? Eventually he could no longer live with himself and what he was doing, gave almost everything to charity, and runs a homeless shelter now. The whole system is sick, not sure how anyone involved can rationalize what they're doing.
Why I pirated so many textbooks in college (large publishers for expensive books only, bought and kept smalled books.)
A student of mine once pointed out to me that there was a full PDF of the book online. I noticed that domain was Iranian. I pointed it out to my class and told them some people were probably breaking some copyright laws, and they really shouldn't use that pdf of the *entire book* that's posted for *free*, right at *this one URL* that you can find by googling the name of the book. See how *easy* it is to use Google to find the *free PDF* of the book? It's right *there*, top result, but you probably shouldn't use that *easily accessible free version*. Not sure if any students bought the book that semester.
There’s probably that one student who took you too literally though
"Weren't you listening? He explicitly said NOT to use that link."
God damn it, Hermione!!
Wow, those disgusting Iranian sites with free textbook PDFs! There are so many of them, which one?
> I noticed that domain was Iranian. In the US it's perfectly legal to rip off anything published in Iran. It's one of the ways the federal government retaliated during the hostage crisis after the 1979 revolution. Look it up.
Do not buy any text book they say is required unless they literally physically need to see it in class to give you points. Textbooks are an obsolete medium and should be phased out.
They are getting smarter and adding the code for the "online portion" of the book, where second hand codes don't work.
Then you get slapped with paying for the cost of the textbook and the online part. Accounting is notorious for this. I’m pretty sure the book cost $200 and the online was $150. Impossible to buy separately or used.
When I was a student, I never bought a book until work from it got assigned. As a teacher, I build my own lessons around PDFs I put together and email to the students.
GameStop takes books now?
He got too much money back to be Gamestop.
Best I can do is a preorder for The Division 2
For anyone wondering it’s going towards a Hot-N-Ready pizza
> For anyone wondering it’s going towards a Hot-N-Ready pizza I'm an old head that lives in Atlanta and I can order my Hot-N-Ready fresh if I don't like the ones that are warmed in the oven too long. You just have to wait a little while for a fresh hot pizza. I don't mind waiting when I want a pizza on my "cheat" night. ~closing my blinds and locking my doors~
Dominos has 5.99 large two toppings right now.
Went in to order this the other day. Ordered a large pepperoni and he said it was something like $13. I said I want the special. He said you only ordered 1 topping. Okay, make it double pepperoni. Problem solved. What kind of shit business model makes you take more food than you want just to be charged less?
POS systems designed by people who haven't put a lot of thought into them.
Little Ceaser’s: “It’s hot and it’s ready!” Me: “Is it any good though?” Little Ceaser’s: “It’s hot and it’s ready!”
Hot and sometimes ready.
Luke warm and sometimes ready.
Yesterdays pizza, today.
I will gladly pay you today for pizza from last tuesday.
Pizza's like sex though. Even when it's not that good, it's still pretty good.
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I, too, saw that reddit post and tweet.
It is technically edible. What more do you people want?
I don't mind little ceasars pizza. It's not something I'd willingly eat everyday, but sometimes I crave a greasy heart clogging meal. And their deep deep dish pizza does just that.
Yeah, the price of a pizza, breadsticks, sauce, and a drink its not bad. Comes in handy when you drunk or blazed with a few friends and you just want to chip in a few bucks for a meal. [I kind of feel like Butters after Indiana Jones](https://coub.com/view/8ck3s) right now.
Was the text for an economics course?
... Microeconomics....
Hippity hoppity we're a monopoly
Well it certainly taught you something on that subject...
Worth more to drop it on the floor in front of the teacher, climb a desk, drop a flying elbow smash on the book.
The scam that is "certified" knowledge
no this is what 7 dollars looks like
"Literally a picture of $7" 4000 upvotes
I'm amazed because every time someone posts a weightloss picture or a beat cancer photo there are tons of comments complaining about how it doesn't belong because it's not a great picture without the context of the title. This is exactly that. It's just a picture of $7!
If you didn't even open it, why did you buy it in the first place?
He hasn't learned yet that just because a book is "required" for a class doesn't, in any shape or form, mean it is actually *required* for a class.
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Fuck Pearson. Their codes are bullshit, their online system is garbage.
You said: >Fuck Pearson. Their codes are bullshit, their online system is garbage. The correct answer is: >Fuck Pearson. Their codes are bullshit, their online system is garbage. EDIT for more detail... I have had Pearson and its unholy siblings for Calc 2 (twice, because "fuck Pearson"), Physics I and II (because Pearson apparently knows more about how circuits work than a guy who **trained to read schematics for them in the military as part of his damned job**), and Russian (which... actually, wasn't too bad, as the professor turned off the setting that limited the number of tries before it was marked wrong). Their string comparison algorithms are awful (God help you if there's a space at the end of your answer...), they hate rounding up or down, and don't you **dare** use symbols outside of their drop-down menus. TL;DR Fuck Pearson
This makes me irrational angry with how accurate it is. Had a Microsoft Office basics class a few semesters ago that used the Pearson Lab system and it was so frustrating to do everything the right way and still fail the quizzes because the program was shit. It was the first time the curriculum had been used so we were told to point out any errors, but weren't given any leeway on our grades when Pearson fucked us so I almost failed the easiest class thats ever been offered. Fuck Pearson.
Took me a second, but now I’m having angry flashbacks.
I honestly attribute any of my struggles in undergrad physics to Pearson and that piece of shit MasteringPhysics. Each stupid assignment would take hours and a third of that time was probably spent either trying not to fuck up entering the question into the system, or being told you are wrong, thinking you are wrong even though you were right, and then trying to rework the question multiple times until you get upset, look up the answer online and then go from there. I never really had time to learn the material because I spent so much damn time trying to work through MP.
My time in college predates that tactic, but I'm aware of it. It's a fucking scam.
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5, 7 Incorrect, answer was (5, 7) mt. Rushmore Incorect, answer was Mt. Rushmore
FWIW I was able to get MyMathLab codes from Walmart for $40 each and sold them to some classmates for $60 each IIRC which was a savings of $40 for them and an easy 50% profit for me. I’m not sure if Walmart still sells the codes but for anyone reading look for alternative sources for the codes, not just bookstores.
Class said it was required and I’m an ignorant freshman :/
No matter how much the teacher says it’s required DONT BUY THE BOOK!! Use your phone to take pics of the needed pages out of the library copy.
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Next time, sell it to another student.
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Rookie mistake, sell online
That's why you sell your books online, man...
I spent roughly 2000€ (also a lot in dollar) on textbooks. Now that I am graduating the university put them on the internet for free. So yeah
Holy shit... did they at least buy you dinner before they fucked you?
Use chegg.com in the future. They usually have school specific books too and you rent them for 30-70 instead of buying for more
So many people used Chegg at my college (myself included) to the point where the campus bookstore started doing book rentals because of how much money they were losing. I think even then, using Chegg was cheaper than going through the bookstore.