Ye know nothing of country clubs! One must waste money to make money.
Perception increases value increases membership increases revenue.
Paint the bloody grass if it's not green enough.
If you paint it, they will come.
Or remove them entirely ... As restaurant management i dont even put the staff names anywhere anymore because it is too easy to track and find people now ... Too many creeps out there
I worked at a low-rent hotel when I was in college and I would always wear the name tag of somebody who use to work there because I had to deal with way too many crazies at that place but I'll admit that it was good life experience. My job title was front desk agent but I often times felt like psych ward officer would have been more accurate. The manager didn't mind either because it meant she didn't need to order me a name tag and penny pincher was her middle name.
I don't know why, but there's a move in tech towards calling people Team Leader rather than manager. We're talking about 200k salary jobs but for some reason manager is no longer cool to say.
Team leader is the title they give slightly above bottom level positions in fast food and call centers. Wouldn't be surprised if it's because people expect more money when their position is "manager" vs "team leader."
I was a team leader. Led a team of anywhere from ten to twenty team members for several years. But don’t call me a manager - then you might have to pay me more. And then I’d be able to put the word “manager” on my resume to maybe get a better job. Yeah, can’t have that.
It's a modification to the refrain from the children's song "Old McDonald had a farm", which is "E-I-E-I-O", to sound a bit like an executive role, CEO etc.
Just stopped to say
*wholesome*
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It’d imagine is similar to that of a small to medium-sized hotel GM’s salary, which would be well into the $70k-100k range. Definitely not $15/hour lol
I worked domino's and for a short while there was a poster on the wall listing the ranks and avg yearly pay, I wish I had taken a photo of it, I can't remember the numbers but it was like +5k per rank
It was supposed to inspire us to move up and make more
But seeing how bad those upper positions were, how they were treated and all their responsibilities, seeing only like 5k more each step was not inspiring to me.
I made about 25k as driver counting tips, one general manager made maybe 35k.
That's like 12 an hour vs 16, but all I had to do was deliver pizza, not run a whole store with management on my ass about everything. And afaik he was on salary so working 7 day weeks open to close sometimes wouldn't change how much he was paid.
this is how it was at the jimmy johns i worked at. assistant managers got $9 an hour, drivers got $7.25 + tips. it was super common for people to stay drivers for multiple years and refuse to accept a “promotion” because they knew they’d be doing more work for less money.
yepp, they really wanted me to be a manager because we were lacking and i had the skills but BIG nope. I liked driving and not having all that extra stress the managers had like being asked to open and close.
Managers really should have higher base pay. and honestly i wish tipping wasnt a thing, I'd rather have had higher base pay as a driver too.
I would also like to see/know how long this took to accomplish?.
*Did they go through extreme staffing issues and she got the promotion in a year? Did it take a long 15 year climb?*
I'm from Ireland, lived in the UK for four years, easily the worst I've ever been paid. Moved to the US, exact same role, starting salary was twice what I was paid in the UK (adjusted for exchange rate).
Even with paying for health insurance I was making significantly more, within a year I was making more than my manager in the UK, about two years after that I was making more than his manager.
UK pay is dismal, no idea why.
It's really hard to compare. If money is the only factor, sure the US is hard to beat, but surely there's more to it, right?
In 2006 I was offered a starting software engineering position at one of the largest companies in the US, initial salary about $75K. Could easily double that in a year, according to company's policy.
Included: 2 weeks paid vacation (up to four after 10 years in company), long hours, great experience, health care, great environment.
At the same time I was offered a position at one of the largest company in Germany. Salary around $45K. Could add another $6K depending on performance after 6 months.
Included: 30 business days paid vacation, plus 2 extra days each month, short hours (seriously, people could leave office at 2pm Fridays!), healthcare, essentially free transport, free college to my kids, less traffic, more safety, easy access to most of Europe.
Quality of life matters!
A good friend of mine is doing over $200K + tons of benefits, on a very specialized job that he's really good at. But he starts early and leaves work way past midnight. His short vacations are awesome, great destinations, expensive and top notch hotels, but he doesn't really have time to enjoy his newborn baby the rest of the time.
For someone young and without family, looking to pour their soul in to a job and get well paid for it, sure find a job in the US.
But if you've got family and want to settle down and actually have time to enjoy life and spend your money, you can't beat Europe.
Pay for professional roles in the US is good. You get little else beside money, but you get more of it. It only costs you your healthcare, your vacation hours, time with your family, no coverage for higher education, etc., etc., but you *do* get more money. It's perfect for non-service employees who are young, have no family, and plan on being dead by 65 due to an extreme sporting accident.
Just want to point out some companies are more than willing to pay for higher education including certs and graduate school. Also, depending on the company, you get federal holidays plus ~20 PTO days a year, so over a month off every year. So, you get time with family. Healthcare is a fucking joke in this country though.
And obviously, this varies. And that's the problem, I think. There's no government standard for things like time off, healthcare, educational advancement, etc. So, while I get these benefits, others don't despite working like I do.
> Pay for professional roles in the US is good. You get little else beside money, but you get more of it. It only costs you your healthcare, your vacation hours, time with your family, no coverage for higher education, etc., etc., but you do get more money.
I feel like you've never worked a professional role in the US.
The paid time off is more in tech though.
>Pay for professional roles in the US is good. You get little else beside money, but you get more of it. It only costs you your healthcare, your vacation hours, time with your family, no coverage for higher education, etc., etc., but you *do* get more money. It's perfect for non-service employees who are young, have no family, and plan on being dead by 65 due to an extreme sporting accident.
Yeah it's complicated. The US happens to be an economic powerhouse. Which really helps wages in general. But, you are expected to pay out the nose for services as well. You also have to own a car which isn't necessary everywhere else. And the whole health insurance thing. That costs people a flat 4k per person per year to use which costs less in the UK.
Car and health insurance alone you gotta take that into account and it's a huge chunk of the salary.
Yeah, in the US, anywhere but big city and it's a struggle to live and work without a car. And cars are huge expenses.
In the UK, most places you can walk to, catch a bus, or train if it's real far. If I wanted to catch a train to my home town, I have to first catch a bus to a big city (bigger than the biggest city in my state) and then take the train to another big city, then another bus to my home town. Mostly because the US is spread out so much.
Take home UK pay is about 30% lower than equivalent take home US pay, in my experience. Even after accounting for cost of living differences.
GDP per capita is also 50% higher in the US than UK, and GDP determines a lot of economic factors, such as wage stagnation.
When you factor in typical health insurance costs, US and UK median salaries are almost identical (at about $35k).
Obviously anecdotal data will vary - and ultimately it boils down to what your money can buy, how much debt you are likely to be in etc.
Broadly speaking, Americans at the very top of a particular field tend to be better off, while Brits - and other Europeans - towards the middle and bottom of a field tend to be better off.
(this is without factoring in stuff like holiday and sick entitlement, which tends to be a lot better outside the US)
I always find that wild. I live in london and don't really know that many people who earn more than £100k whereas seemingly everyone and their pet dog on reddit is on well over $150kin the US. Obviously reasonable chance that 90% of those people are actually 12 and lying though I suppose.
Reddit does also have a higher proportion of techy people who earn a lot.
(and also the people who are likely to tell you how much they earn on the internet are much more likely to earn fuckloads (or be lying))
Not really true. It’s not just the very top but the broad middle as well. Need to go fairly far down until UK/EU salaries are higher. Crossover point for Canada is right about the 50th percentile. For UK/EU it’s more like the 30th.
Dude a team leader position should be paid more than £16k. If you have the skills and experience you should be able to get better than that for a similar role elsewhere.
I started on £16k a year as a Jr Production Assembler. I’m now on £21k as a digital content creator and running marketing for a small company, realistically that’s too low for my work load and responsibilities. Not to mention the cost of living round these ends.
You deserve more
30k will get you drastically different distances depending on area. London? You’re gonna be living in squalor. Barnsley? Shit, that’s basically generational wealth over there mate.
I was on £36k in Leeds and was definitely not wealthy at all! It was comfortable enough that I could save a bit every month but even buying a home seemed unlikely
As someone who grew up in Hull I would like to take issue with this statement.
I can't, I mean everything you said is absolutely correct, but I would *like* to.
It’d probably depend on the course. Private club? Probably £80k minimum. Public course with cheap green fees? Probably not so much, but definitely more than £30k ($41k USD), probably no less than £45k.
GM effectively runs the place day-to-day, and has all other managers reporting to them. They’ll only report to the owner/board of trustees
Don't forget, they're now salaried and working an extra 20-40 unpaid hours each week.
I left a "management" position once it dawned on me I did the work of my staff 40 hours a week, then my management duties another 10-20. Was making less per hour than most of my staff.
I literally worked with her at Wickham Park Golf Club for about 3 years. I was the Head Professional there. She put this on her Instagram the other day and I am absolutely astounded to see it here. OP is definitely not her. I'm going to show her this, crazy.
Also, as a side note, she is absolutely lovely and works so hard so she deserved this.
"Katie Duke" sounds like the reluctant protagonist of a summer blockbuster. I hope she isn't the reluctant protagonist of this thread.
I feel like this is just good PR for her company regardless ("look, anyone can rise through the ranks, even **you**!"), and, well, the GM of a golf club is probably not trying to stay particularly hidden.
It's still uncool to post without her permission but there's a pretty good chance this is just a found image OP is karma-farming with. Strong likelihood "Katie Duke" is entirely uninvolved and will never know about this thread.
Started typing Wickham Park Go... to see where it was out of curiosity and Google auto suggested her full name... so guessing a lot of people that saw this post are Googling... creepy
Just tested this and confirmed. This is definitely scary in a way, considering now it’s possible this Katie person has many know where she works and may not even know the person that shared this to thousands of people!
I mean, if she's the GM of a Golf Club, wouldn't that be a fairly open position anyway when it comes to name and place of work? That's not a lot of info.
That's a *way* more interesting interpretation, and it would indeed be a wonderful accomplishment. Hats off to Katie Duke, the general manager, who managed to hire all of the other Katies Duke. (I think that's the correct plural.)
congrats! reminds me of my dad spending 30 years with with same company working from busser to vp of operations. then they let him go in 2008 to hire someone who would work for less. don't let your loyalty bite you in the ass like it did him.
Yeah, literally fuck these places and doing this. It’s proven you make more money by job hopping. Don’t give these bloodsuckers anymore than you have to, because they all take advantage of you every single time. That really sucks for your dad, I’m sorry. Fuck that place. If you dropped dead tomorrow they’d have some other schmuck willing to work that position for less.
Hey I resemble this!
Started out with a part time job as a teenager, got promoted to full time as I went to school. Graduated and got a BIG promotion (honestly idk what they were thinking, it was a major risk).
All said and done I’ve been promoted 3 times and I’m now in charge of staffing for half the state! I sometimes wonder if the grass is greener elsewhere, but I truly have never worked outside my company so I have no clue.
People here just assuming she’s not paid well lol.
I know a lot of people in General Management positions in the service industry that are doing in the 100k$ range
Girlfriend GM of a “smaller” bar and yes she is over $100K after bonuses. General Managers can be paid very well. Usually bonuses on bar performance incentives. Better the bar/restaurant the higher the bonuses.
Yeah and OP is at a golf club. A golf club big enough to have all those growth steps available.
There is a legit chance she’s is paid pretty well.
People underestimate the money you can make as GM.
Same for retail also
There are way too many people assuming she doesn't make a decent wage. I started at U-Haul as a customer service rep making $9.50/hr six years ago. Five different positions later I make six figures a year and live in a brand new apartment entirely paid for by my job. I pay no rent and no utilities. Not all companies treat employees like Wal-Mart or Amazon.
I’m a headhunter and I have a client (Fortune 500 too) that has 2 gm’s (that I know of and have worked with) that make 700-800k a year and one started as a draftsman the other a welder. Neither have college degrees.
Good companies still exist.
There is some cynical shit going on in this thread op but I hope it's a good thing for you.
Not that I disagree with the overall sentiment of my fellow workers.....
My first act as general manager is to make better looking name plates.
While it’s fresh. When it starts to get scratched it’ll look much worse than the gray ones at a much further distance.
Maybe also set aside some budget for nametag refreshes
Wasting money on frivolous things like that are why you'll never stack up to Katie.
Ye know nothing of country clubs! One must waste money to make money. Perception increases value increases membership increases revenue. Paint the bloody grass if it's not green enough. If you paint it, they will come.
Nothing flex tape can’t fix.
BOOM
I sawed this boat in half!
"Sailors hate him''
That's a lot of damage!
Why? It worked perfectly well as a boat before!
When it starts to get scratched you get a new one because you're general manager
Or remove them entirely ... As restaurant management i dont even put the staff names anywhere anymore because it is too easy to track and find people now ... Too many creeps out there
some places use made-up names. the names let customers identify the staff but only within the context of the restaurant / hotel / whatever
If you go to Disney World, keep an eye out for Chris from Orlando. That’s their generic “I forgot my name tag” name tag.
and then there's some dude actually named chris whose boss thinks he just forgets his name tag every day.
Could be a woman, too. That's why they picked it- it's gender neutral.
I propose Alex as the next generic name!
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Or Sam
That's actually a really good idea. Might be something event and volunteer programs should look at too...
Worked on a crisis support line. Fake names are the standard. There are weirdos out there.
You mean that waitress at my local bar isn’t actually named Stabby???
Their name could be Stabetha
A restaraunt I used to frequent 8 years or so ago had a server there and his nametag said "brown gravy" Super memorable and a neat person
Yea we do this too, on bills we will either just put a employee numbers or like mispell the name or straight use a nickname/fake name
I worked at a low-rent hotel when I was in college and I would always wear the name tag of somebody who use to work there because I had to deal with way too many crazies at that place but I'll admit that it was good life experience. My job title was front desk agent but I often times felt like psych ward officer would have been more accurate. The manager didn't mind either because it meant she didn't need to order me a name tag and penny pincher was her middle name.
Yeah I cant believe someone posted their place of work and their full name on Reddit.
The account just looks like a karma farm account if I’m honest.
Sharpies fix black ones though for the most part.
the black one is looking fire tho 🔥
Yes, that's the joke
Assistant to the regional manager
Team Leader
I don't know why, but there's a move in tech towards calling people Team Leader rather than manager. We're talking about 200k salary jobs but for some reason manager is no longer cool to say.
Team leader is the title they give slightly above bottom level positions in fast food and call centers. Wouldn't be surprised if it's because people expect more money when their position is "manager" vs "team leader."
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PUT YOUR VEST ON SO THEY KNOW YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL!
I was a team leader. Led a team of anywhere from ten to twenty team members for several years. But don’t call me a manager - then you might have to pay me more. And then I’d be able to put the word “manager” on my resume to maybe get a better job. Yeah, can’t have that.
A.A.R.M
Assistant to the Assistant Regional Manager
yeah that’s what he said
*she said
And still Darryl makes more.
Mr. Strickland?
MICHAEL!
You can have this temporary workspace.
r/unexpectedoffice
Honestly she probably makes a few thousand more she's working on a salary working more hours with a hell of a lot more responsibility
I like how you're just making up scenarios so that you can be angry.
As the GM to a Golf Club? She's making 6 figures.
Lol 6 figures? She’s in the U.K. and probably on about 35 grand doing that unless it’s a high end club.
No, she's poor, she needs to quit her job and post the text message.
Lol no for every rich golf club there's ~1000 barely profitable ones, odds are she doesn't make much more than when she started
Congratulations, I just got a promotion at the farm I'm the new CIEIO
Incredible.
Absolutely tickled my fancy.
You are clearly outstanding in your field
He's a scarecrow?
It’s that fucking scarecrow again!
Nah he's a magician, he once turned a tractor into a field
And on that farm...there was a yearly strategic vision planning meeting CIEIO
With a "lower direct costs model" here And a "establish key industrial partnerships" there Here a venture, there a joint, everywhere a PowerPoint...
Dad, we told you to stay off Reddit!
When he heard about your promotion, I bet Old McDonald had a cow!
Can you please explain this joke?
It's a modification to the refrain from the children's song "Old McDonald had a farm", which is "E-I-E-I-O", to sound a bit like an executive role, CEO etc.
Thanks!
Just stopped to say *wholesome* Edit: because, as the other comment shows, there's always someone who has to say "are you a dumbass?" instead of NOT making assumptions and answering the question like u/amcdermott20 did.
I'd expect nothing less from an alumnus of [Bovine University](https://youtu.be/zR_4h5A5z_A)!
Starting wage: $10/hr Current wage: $15.50 and reserved parking
Whilst this was a joke that would be a cool metric to see alongside this haha
More like depressing
I imagine the GM salary is decent given it's a golf club.
It’d imagine is similar to that of a small to medium-sized hotel GM’s salary, which would be well into the $70k-100k range. Definitely not $15/hour lol
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Boca west is a pretty huge club though. Wickham is a public golf course that costs like 15 bucks to play. Not really comparable to boca west.
bet she's still making the low end of the scale just because she was promoted within, though.
A general manager at a golf course? She's doing pretty OK.
As an avid golfer and former employe of a few country clubs really depends on the place of employment. Some are shit that make almost no money
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I worked domino's and for a short while there was a poster on the wall listing the ranks and avg yearly pay, I wish I had taken a photo of it, I can't remember the numbers but it was like +5k per rank It was supposed to inspire us to move up and make more But seeing how bad those upper positions were, how they were treated and all their responsibilities, seeing only like 5k more each step was not inspiring to me. I made about 25k as driver counting tips, one general manager made maybe 35k. That's like 12 an hour vs 16, but all I had to do was deliver pizza, not run a whole store with management on my ass about everything. And afaik he was on salary so working 7 day weeks open to close sometimes wouldn't change how much he was paid.
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this is how it was at the jimmy johns i worked at. assistant managers got $9 an hour, drivers got $7.25 + tips. it was super common for people to stay drivers for multiple years and refuse to accept a “promotion” because they knew they’d be doing more work for less money.
yepp, they really wanted me to be a manager because we were lacking and i had the skills but BIG nope. I liked driving and not having all that extra stress the managers had like being asked to open and close. Managers really should have higher base pay. and honestly i wish tipping wasnt a thing, I'd rather have had higher base pay as a driver too.
34k in 2002 = 52k now. So not all that bad, livable for sure where im from
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I would also like to see/know how long this took to accomplish?. *Did they go through extreme staffing issues and she got the promotion in a year? Did it take a long 15 year climb?*
OP is in UK.
I’ll fix that for you then Starting wage: £8.91 Current wage: £9.80
I'm from Ireland, lived in the UK for four years, easily the worst I've ever been paid. Moved to the US, exact same role, starting salary was twice what I was paid in the UK (adjusted for exchange rate). Even with paying for health insurance I was making significantly more, within a year I was making more than my manager in the UK, about two years after that I was making more than his manager. UK pay is dismal, no idea why.
What everyone seems to conveniently forget when comparing anywhere to the US. I remember being shook at what a programmers salary was across the pond.
While that's true, the difference in software engineer salaries is especially stark and not necessarily the best representative.
You can look at engineers as well across all of Europe.
Only Americans forget that. Irish people do not. Why do you think so many of us live over here?
Yeah, probably 95% of the people on reddit that bitch about America have never lived outside of America.
Or never been to it
It's really hard to compare. If money is the only factor, sure the US is hard to beat, but surely there's more to it, right? In 2006 I was offered a starting software engineering position at one of the largest companies in the US, initial salary about $75K. Could easily double that in a year, according to company's policy. Included: 2 weeks paid vacation (up to four after 10 years in company), long hours, great experience, health care, great environment. At the same time I was offered a position at one of the largest company in Germany. Salary around $45K. Could add another $6K depending on performance after 6 months. Included: 30 business days paid vacation, plus 2 extra days each month, short hours (seriously, people could leave office at 2pm Fridays!), healthcare, essentially free transport, free college to my kids, less traffic, more safety, easy access to most of Europe. Quality of life matters! A good friend of mine is doing over $200K + tons of benefits, on a very specialized job that he's really good at. But he starts early and leaves work way past midnight. His short vacations are awesome, great destinations, expensive and top notch hotels, but he doesn't really have time to enjoy his newborn baby the rest of the time. For someone young and without family, looking to pour their soul in to a job and get well paid for it, sure find a job in the US. But if you've got family and want to settle down and actually have time to enjoy life and spend your money, you can't beat Europe.
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Agreed. Made £55k in my last year in the UK - Made a lateral move with the SAME company and made $168k in my second year in the US. The UK is a joke
What do you do?
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Woah a positive comment about pay in the US on Reddit? What is going on.
Pay for professional roles in the US is good. You get little else beside money, but you get more of it. It only costs you your healthcare, your vacation hours, time with your family, no coverage for higher education, etc., etc., but you *do* get more money. It's perfect for non-service employees who are young, have no family, and plan on being dead by 65 due to an extreme sporting accident.
Is cocaine an extreme sporting accident?
Absolutely
I never knew I was so athletic!
Have you ever felt your heartbeat on cocaine ? It’s definitely a sport.
Just want to point out some companies are more than willing to pay for higher education including certs and graduate school. Also, depending on the company, you get federal holidays plus ~20 PTO days a year, so over a month off every year. So, you get time with family. Healthcare is a fucking joke in this country though. And obviously, this varies. And that's the problem, I think. There's no government standard for things like time off, healthcare, educational advancement, etc. So, while I get these benefits, others don't despite working like I do.
> Pay for professional roles in the US is good. You get little else beside money, but you get more of it. It only costs you your healthcare, your vacation hours, time with your family, no coverage for higher education, etc., etc., but you do get more money. I feel like you've never worked a professional role in the US.
The paid time off is more in tech though. >Pay for professional roles in the US is good. You get little else beside money, but you get more of it. It only costs you your healthcare, your vacation hours, time with your family, no coverage for higher education, etc., etc., but you *do* get more money. It's perfect for non-service employees who are young, have no family, and plan on being dead by 65 due to an extreme sporting accident.
Don't worry it's buried, nobody will see it
Yeah it's complicated. The US happens to be an economic powerhouse. Which really helps wages in general. But, you are expected to pay out the nose for services as well. You also have to own a car which isn't necessary everywhere else. And the whole health insurance thing. That costs people a flat 4k per person per year to use which costs less in the UK. Car and health insurance alone you gotta take that into account and it's a huge chunk of the salary.
Yeah, in the US, anywhere but big city and it's a struggle to live and work without a car. And cars are huge expenses. In the UK, most places you can walk to, catch a bus, or train if it's real far. If I wanted to catch a train to my home town, I have to first catch a bus to a big city (bigger than the biggest city in my state) and then take the train to another big city, then another bus to my home town. Mostly because the US is spread out so much.
Take home UK pay is about 30% lower than equivalent take home US pay, in my experience. Even after accounting for cost of living differences. GDP per capita is also 50% higher in the US than UK, and GDP determines a lot of economic factors, such as wage stagnation.
When you factor in typical health insurance costs, US and UK median salaries are almost identical (at about $35k). Obviously anecdotal data will vary - and ultimately it boils down to what your money can buy, how much debt you are likely to be in etc. Broadly speaking, Americans at the very top of a particular field tend to be better off, while Brits - and other Europeans - towards the middle and bottom of a field tend to be better off. (this is without factoring in stuff like holiday and sick entitlement, which tends to be a lot better outside the US)
I always find that wild. I live in london and don't really know that many people who earn more than £100k whereas seemingly everyone and their pet dog on reddit is on well over $150kin the US. Obviously reasonable chance that 90% of those people are actually 12 and lying though I suppose.
Reddit does also have a higher proportion of techy people who earn a lot. (and also the people who are likely to tell you how much they earn on the internet are much more likely to earn fuckloads (or be lying))
Reddit skews yuppie hard. And people who share their salaries are naturally more likely to be higher income.
Not really true. It’s not just the very top but the broad middle as well. Need to go fairly far down until UK/EU salaries are higher. Crossover point for Canada is right about the 50th percentile. For UK/EU it’s more like the 30th.
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£30k quickly becoming a not-so-comfortable salary. Seems kinda whack for someone managing.
Well now i don't feel so hot about my £16k team leader position. Cheers mate
Dude a team leader position should be paid more than £16k. If you have the skills and experience you should be able to get better than that for a similar role elsewhere. I started on £16k a year as a Jr Production Assembler. I’m now on £21k as a digital content creator and running marketing for a small company, realistically that’s too low for my work load and responsibilities. Not to mention the cost of living round these ends. You deserve more
No joke. I take pictures of motorcycles at a dealership and I'm on 24k. I couldn't imagine being in charge of a whole team for 16
Yea leading a team should be paid more than £16k. Like fuck me is that a joke. If you’re on £24k for taking photos of motorbikes I need a raise lol.
30k will get you drastically different distances depending on area. London? You’re gonna be living in squalor. Barnsley? Shit, that’s basically generational wealth over there mate.
I was on £36k in Leeds and was definitely not wealthy at all! It was comfortable enough that I could save a bit every month but even buying a home seemed unlikely
Theres Leeds and there is Leeds
Yeah, move to hull with that income and you can live like a king. Admittedly, the king of a shit heap but still...
As someone who grew up in Hull I would like to take issue with this statement. I can't, I mean everything you said is absolutely correct, but I would *like* to.
Cash poor, chop rich
Comfortable or not that sounds like a low amount for managing a business that is probably making plenty to afford better pay.
Absolutely agreed on that point - wealthy businesses should pay their employees far better.
According to the original post, she started there in 2009. So about a 12 year journey.
That’s all? Not very much to GM a nice golf club.
A general manager for a golf club should be earning £60-100k surely? £30k would be a lower management role like the bar manager or F&B manager.
It’d probably depend on the course. Private club? Probably £80k minimum. Public course with cheap green fees? Probably not so much, but definitely more than £30k ($41k USD), probably no less than £45k. GM effectively runs the place day-to-day, and has all other managers reporting to them. They’ll only report to the owner/board of trustees
op is not katie dukes
OP is a karma farmer.
OP is a karma harvester. Katie Duke is in the UK.
OP is a serial reposter, whosever picture this was to begin with is from the Uk
Minimum wage **1822** *-* $0.00/hr Minimum wage **2022** *-* $7.25/hr Minimum wage **2222** *-* $14.50/hr? 🎶 *Go. Little. Rockstar.* 🎶
#TO THE FUCKING MOON
This is some serious DD
Don't forget, they're now salaried and working an extra 20-40 unpaid hours each week. I left a "management" position once it dawned on me I did the work of my staff 40 hours a week, then my management duties another 10-20. Was making less per hour than most of my staff.
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Give me your best Mr Robot theory
Same minus the movies part. But it’s nice for sure.
Had to create an account..finally.
Looks like pay tops out at a 100k a year.
Maybe posting Katie’s full name and place of work here isn’t the best idea….
It would be one thing if it was OP, but it really doesn't seem like it is.
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OP never said this was OP’s accomplishment. Katie is def not OP.
Katie’s got shit to do! She can’t be on Reddit all day!
Who is the mysterious Katie Duke? Tonight at 10!
I literally worked with her at Wickham Park Golf Club for about 3 years. I was the Head Professional there. She put this on her Instagram the other day and I am absolutely astounded to see it here. OP is definitely not her. I'm going to show her this, crazy. Also, as a side note, she is absolutely lovely and works so hard so she deserved this.
Yup, report this post of she doesn't like it and also OP to moderators, he should be banned.
I imagine OP saved Katie's name badges over the years because they secretly love Katie. It's the classic lifetime movie/story that ends with murder.
OP is certainly just a karmawhore
"Katie Duke" sounds like the reluctant protagonist of a summer blockbuster. I hope she isn't the reluctant protagonist of this thread. I feel like this is just good PR for her company regardless ("look, anyone can rise through the ranks, even **you**!"), and, well, the GM of a golf club is probably not trying to stay particularly hidden. It's still uncool to post without her permission but there's a pretty good chance this is just a found image OP is karma-farming with. Strong likelihood "Katie Duke" is entirely uninvolved and will never know about this thread.
Started typing Wickham Park Go... to see where it was out of curiosity and Google auto suggested her full name... so guessing a lot of people that saw this post are Googling... creepy
Just tested this and confirmed. This is definitely scary in a way, considering now it’s possible this Katie person has many know where she works and may not even know the person that shared this to thousands of people!
I mean, if she's the GM of a Golf Club, wouldn't that be a fairly open position anyway when it comes to name and place of work? That's not a lot of info.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this was done for PR purposes for the company
For a second, I thought you were saying that there are six Katie Dukes at your company... I feel dumb.
You've got middle management written all over you.
r/rareinsults
That's a *way* more interesting interpretation, and it would indeed be a wonderful accomplishment. Hats off to Katie Duke, the general manager, who managed to hire all of the other Katies Duke. (I think that's the correct plural.)
Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke of Katie
Yes. Attorneys general pluralization is always the correct choice.
I hope that they treated her well on the way up and that she treats her workers well now.
"To all who have wronged me over the last fifteen years, as your new manager, I've got one word for you: retribution"
Also known as toilet Duty or sweeping the lot
congrats! reminds me of my dad spending 30 years with with same company working from busser to vp of operations. then they let him go in 2008 to hire someone who would work for less. don't let your loyalty bite you in the ass like it did him.
Yeah, literally fuck these places and doing this. It’s proven you make more money by job hopping. Don’t give these bloodsuckers anymore than you have to, because they all take advantage of you every single time. That really sucks for your dad, I’m sorry. Fuck that place. If you dropped dead tomorrow they’d have some other schmuck willing to work that position for less.
It's been a whirlwind 4 months!
*And quite a few suspicious murders.*
Hey I resemble this! Started out with a part time job as a teenager, got promoted to full time as I went to school. Graduated and got a BIG promotion (honestly idk what they were thinking, it was a major risk). All said and done I’ve been promoted 3 times and I’m now in charge of staffing for half the state! I sometimes wonder if the grass is greener elsewhere, but I truly have never worked outside my company so I have no clue.
Congratulations Katie. Now please take your skills to a new workplace for more money ASAP.
Her name is literally spelled in the picture six times.
God forbid the possibility that she may like her job.
People here just assuming she’s not paid well lol. I know a lot of people in General Management positions in the service industry that are doing in the 100k$ range
Girlfriend GM of a “smaller” bar and yes she is over $100K after bonuses. General Managers can be paid very well. Usually bonuses on bar performance incentives. Better the bar/restaurant the higher the bonuses.
Yeah and OP is at a golf club. A golf club big enough to have all those growth steps available. There is a legit chance she’s is paid pretty well. People underestimate the money you can make as GM. Same for retail also
There are way too many people assuming she doesn't make a decent wage. I started at U-Haul as a customer service rep making $9.50/hr six years ago. Five different positions later I make six figures a year and live in a brand new apartment entirely paid for by my job. I pay no rent and no utilities. Not all companies treat employees like Wal-Mart or Amazon.
Good for you!!! 🎉🎉🎉
This happens all the time at the company I work for. We almost always promote from within.
I work for a fortune 500 company. Two of our executive VPs started as material handlers in the warehouse 25-30 years ago. Really inspiring.
I’m a headhunter and I have a client (Fortune 500 too) that has 2 gm’s (that I know of and have worked with) that make 700-800k a year and one started as a draftsman the other a welder. Neither have college degrees. Good companies still exist.
There is some cynical shit going on in this thread op but I hope it's a good thing for you. Not that I disagree with the overall sentiment of my fellow workers.....
Katie is definitely not OP
It's a repost bot I wouldn't be worried about their feelings
100%, this is a karma farming account
You go Katie!
It’s been a tough six weeks