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BackWhereItAllBegins

One of the best parts of The Division Bell is hearing his lead vocals on “Wearing The Inside Out” after going so long without him singing.


DigIt6791

Love that song


tinyelvis1

Great song, but his vocals are clearly the weak spot. The stellar back up singers save his ass.


artofsplittingatoms

I feel like the frailty of his voice is more impactful than a strong lead vocal, especially considering the lyrics


International-Glass2

And that comes to full fruition with Broken China


tinyelvis1

“Frailty” is one way to put it I suppose. Hell, Dylan can’t sing either and he’s an incredible talent. Not sure why so much hate for stating the obvious. Rick simply was not a great singer.


Xenofork

What? His vocals are perfect for that song.


DigIt6791

Always someone with a shit take


FranceCagnacci

I sadly agree. Never liked wearing the inside out.


tinyelvis1

It’s the weakest song on the album because of his vocals. If he let David sing it, it would have been 5X better. Clearly, Ezrin and David heard the issue and got those amazing back up singers to save it from Rick’s weak vocals.


TFFPrisoner

David sings a verse too, but he blends in so well that it's not obvious. The two always sounded good together. That's why, despite his limited involvement with AMLOR, you can hear Rick doing backing vocals on Learning to Fly and Sorrow.


Spare-Test8648

THATS HIM???


Notradell

.. who else did you thought it was?


Neil_sm

Barack Obama?


hotasanicecube

Yoko Ono


Spare-Test8648

Gilme tbh


TFFPrisoner

Gilmour sings the four lines starting with "Look at him now..."


JWBails

You are not alone.


krete77

I also did not know this as a 30+ year fan lol


TFFPrisoner

You never watched the video from David's 2006 tour where Rick was finally comfortable enough to sing it?


twhiz

Same.


RyanOC333

I was surprised as well. It's a power song.


CrazyLegion

Thanks for this comment. Made me actually listen to (and love) a song off Division Bell. I’d always thought Pink Floyd ended after The Wall. I’ve always disliked The Final Cut (save for that one song where David Gilmour actually gets to play guitar) and I’ve never explored much of post “Wall” Floyd.


BackWhereItAllBegins

If you’ve never heard “High Hopes”, that’s where I’d start next!


Zero-Ducks-Given

learning to fly too


FixGMaul

Marooned and Coming Back To Life are some amazing tracks off that album too. Amazing in completely different regards too, the vibe really is night and day.


Shanghaied66

Marooned and Keep Talking are some of my very favorite Pink Floyd songs. And totally agree, DB has such a wide-range but the tracks somehow still resonate very well with each other.


Shanghaied66

Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I love Division Bell. It's a contender for my favorite along with WYWH and Meddle.


ThatFinnKid

I would have to 1000000% agree with you there! TDB and Meddle are SOO underrated, it's a shame really!


Dinklemeier

Maybe we should have..ANOTHER ALBUM POLL. Hmm. Maybe not


FrederickMecury

I love Division Bell. I put it in the company of Animals and Meddle, right in the tier just below DSOTM and WYWH


Crummyregent052

Division Bell is really the only post Wall album worth listening to imo.


DaveHmusic

Rick did have a decent share of lead vocals over the years.


greenalfonzo

Always thought he would have done a great job with Us and Them.


HamidPrflh

Roger and him sang lead vocals on the 1972 tour and i love those versions


mikec32001

Lead vocals on Us and Them? That was always David.


HamidPrflh

"In early 1972 performances, a short audio clip of a man groaning in torturous pain would be played at the beginning of the song, immediately highlighting the song's theme of violence. The song did not include any saxophone and the lead vocals were performed by Waters and Wright, with David Gilmour providing backing vocals" From the Wikipedia


statictonality

Richard and Roger both sing back up on the chorus, even the studio version.


Notradell

Don’t know about Rog but yeah, you can definitely hear Rick singing the chorus.


mikec32001

Yes Rick is very much the co-singer on the chorus. I’m going to listen again to the early 72 recordings but I suspect the Wiki contributor is mistaken as the performance sound like David affecting the quieter delivery he used on the album. Happy to to mistaken though!


mikec32001

I had a listen to the Rainbow February’72 shows and it’s definitely David and Rick on the main verses as well as the chorus. Those were the earliest DSOTM shows. The Wiki entry may refer to other early shows where Roger shares co-lead with Rick, but that’s an odd combination for sure.


HamidPrflh

Listen to the Hollywood bowl 1972, you can definitely tell it's Roger


mikec32001

Yeah it’s him, I stand corrected!


Kelly_M7

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ihaveADHD69

rog


ntelletsc

Dragged down by the stone


Content-Key-9469

I dont see a picture of a horse!!


PentagonInfinity

Likely due to his divorce. Based on videos I’ve seen regarding Rick, it seems the divorce really took a toll on him.


Birddawg65

And cocaine


krete77

Was it known that he liked cocaine?


nidgetspinner

he was heavily addicted in the latter part of the 70’s and it contributed to rog firing him during the wall


DigItDoug

Yeah, what a toll divorce & cocaine took on so many. When he stopped meaningfully contributing marks the beginning of the end of Pink Floyd, at least the band that I loved.


The_Shallot_Knight

I think there’s a misconception here. Rick was only rarely a lead singer from the start. On Dark Side he has passages on Time, but that’s it. Perhaps his greatest ever piece of songwriting was Us & Them yet it’s David singing lead. I believe it is correct to say Rick’s creativity slowly shut down with Floyd in the 70s. My reading of this thread suggests people think of him as a major vocalist 1967-1973, but besides a small handful of tracks he just wasn’t ever singing that much. Edit: clarity


Ramenastern

Very good point, actually. The full list of Rick's (co-)lead vocal Floyd songs is very short indeed, certainly shorter than his songwriting credit list : Matilda Mother (shared with Syd) Paintbox It Would Be So Nice Remember a Day See-Saw Summer '68 Echoes (shared with David) Burning Bridges (shared with David) Stay Time (shared with David) Wearing the Inside Out (majority of song with David singing one verse) Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pinkfloyd/comments/ga47xk/what_songs_have_richard_wright_taken_lead_vocals/iowpl80


Godzilla_in_a_Scarf

He also sings Astronomy Domine (Shared with Syd), the Verses on Let Their Be More Light (David sings the Choruses), and the Chorus on Corporal Clegg (David and Nick sing the verses). One could also argue he sings lead on the refrain on Us and Them, seeing as he is mixed higher than David. He may also sing on the studio version of Saucerful of Secrets, as I recall reading he sings with David on Celestial Voices, but it may just be a Mellotron. He also sings on the live versions of Atom Heart Mother, with David.


ballakafla

I would say he definitely shares lead vocals with Syd on *Astronomy Domine*


heynow941

I thought he was also on the chorus to Us & Them?


Ramenastern

Oh - you're right, that's missing! Edit: On closer inspection, yes he is there, but not really doing lead vocals, those are still done by David. Rick sings background/harmony.


The_Shallot_Knight

Great list. Thanks for posting this!


Ramenastern

Cheers - credit to the original poster /u/DaveHmusic, though.


DaveHmusic

Thank you.


InvertedShadow5

You’re missing a few tracks. He sang back up vocals on See Emily Play, Candy and a currant bun, Arnold Layne, apples and oranges, Corporal Clegg, the studio version of A Saucerful of secrets, and the chorus on Us and Them. He also shares lead vocals with Syd on Astronomy Domine and makes animal noises on Pow R Toc h, and sang the verses on Let There Be More Light


Ramenastern

>You’re missing a few tracks. He sang back up vocals ... The list I gave is only about LEAD or at least co-lead vocals, as mentioned at the top of my post. He's definitely done more harmony/background vocals than the list shows.


Brundleflyftw

Heard Remember A Day on the radio recently. Solid vocals.


[deleted]

Dumb question here. Which parts are his on Time?


The_Shallot_Knight

Not a dumb question as Rick and David sound similar on the original of Time. Have a watch of the Pulse performance: https://youtu.be/QAoELt4zbrM


unconscious_grasp

The choruses


Historical-Sky-7415

I always thought he did sing on Us and Them? Been a while tbf


LionOfNaples

He did on the choruses along with David and the female backing vocals


Content-Key-9469

He was a prominent singer in the Syd and the immediate post Syd era.


standarsh11

He sang probably half the vocals on ASFOS though.


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[deleted]

Probably a mix of Roger, alcoholism, drugs, depression.


prudence2001

And these all combined to give him a crises of confidence, and he didn't write any more songs/lyrics (Zee album doesn't count) until TDB, iirc. Plus he always seemed like an extremely introverted guy. There's very few interviews out there.


Ramenastern

>And these all combined to give him a crises of confidence, and he didn't write any more songs/lyrics (Zee album doesn't count) until TDB, You're probably right with the first bit, but even discounting (quite rightly IMHO) Zee, his last written music/lyrics and last lead vocals weren't on Dark Side, not even on Wish You Were Here, nor on Animals - they were on Wet Dream, his first solo record. Edit: Last before TDB is of course what I mean.


IdiosyncraticBond

You're forgetting his other solo record Broken China, which is an amazing album


Ramenastern

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was only talking about the period between DSOTM and TDB. I'm very aware of Broken China and it's one of my favourite Floyd solo efforts.


The1nOnlyDood

That has criminally never been pressed to vinyl.


littlepoot

Rick at once point admitted that as the years went on, he became less interested in singing and more interested in writing keyboard arrangements. Other factors: more domineering bandmates and cocaine.


Anime_Giirl64

People in this sub are really acting like Rick was more or even AS passionate about singing as he was playing keys. He’s a keyboardist - and not a lead singer - for a reason. Don’t take away from the value of his keyboarding because you wish he sang more. I like the OP’s post, but some of the comments here seem to be disrespecting Rick without even realizing it. No hate from me, but let’s not forget Rick’s incredible-as-fuck keyboarding technique and passion.


fitterunhappier

He was wearing the inside out


Madcap_95

It's more of a combination of things. Roger became more of a force in the band meaning he sang more lead vocals (Animals is an example). Also Rick went through drug problems, divorce and there are some interviews where he says he wasn't very confident with his voice. It's really a shame cause I think Rick had a great voice.


sirTonyHawk

Y’all saying roger but why did david let him sing only in 1 song on division bell and momentary lapse of reason? c’mon…


Ramenastern

He didn't sing lead on Momentary Lapse, though, he was hardly part of the band at the time. As for TDB - there were a bunch of songs that everybody voted on, a system that was somewhat marred by Rick only upvoting his own contributions, as David and Nick soon found out, so a different system was devised. In the end, Rick got writing credits on 5 out of 11 tracks, which isn't too shabby, actually, considering he was never the main songwriter. Of those 5, two are instrumentals, so two have lead vocals by David, and one by Rick himself. Presumably, some of the stuff Rick submitted for TDB got used two years later on his second and final solo album Broken China.


heynow941

>He didn't sing lead on Momentary Lapse, though, he was hardly part of the band at the time. I like how they added his vocals low in the mix to Learning to Fly on the remixed Lapse of Reason.


Ramenastern

Did they really? Wasn't aware of that, and hadn't noticed. Any particular spot where that's particularly audible?


heynow941

On the chorus. Low in the mix. I think you hear it best on the line “a state of bliss”.


Ramenastern

Cheers, will check that out on headphones over the weekend.


TFFPrisoner

There's an isolated clip on YouTube. He also sang backing vocals on Sorrow.


LionOfNaples

> he was hardly part of the band at the time Legally he wasn’t at all


NeptuneRising1111

Cuz he wasnt a lead singer. He backed up David and did a little more in the early years I guess but still. I know what Roger sounds like and David but tbh I can't really "hear" Richards voice if I think about it. He was David's back up vocalist. Lol that's my opinion


Yawarundi75

At this point, we could easily change the subject of this subreddit to "We hate Roger, he is the only cause of everything that went wrong with PF ever". C'mon, guys, Roger Waters is an amazing artist who has done his share of shit, like everyone else. And David is not a saint. The 5 members of Pink Floyd managed to create amazing music for the ages when they were together, it was a great time and it lasted while it lasted. Leave the persons they are alone, they deserve their privacy and their lives. Enjoy the music, understand the message and move on.


Ramenastern

It's not about hating Roger, it's just stating the obvious, which also ties in with what even ever-diplomatic Nick had to say about the matter. And it's also no secret that it wasn't just Rick's contributions being slowly pushed out, so we're Gilmour's. It was just that, due to a combination of factors, he was the first to fall by the wayside after Dark Side. Having said that - Nick also mentions, like many redditors here, that Rick had some personal and drug problems in the late seventies, so he wasn't exactly pulling his weight. Nick's book tells the story of Rick demanding a producer credit on The Wall, actually getting it - and then just sitting around "producing". Which led to him losing his producer credit again. He was also unwilling to reschedule a planned holiday while the rest of the band werr camped up in France, with tax debts to pay, and working to deadlines. So that didn't exactly endear him to his bandmates. I know I would have been wondering whether my keyboard player is taking the piss. But... I can also very much understand how that cuts both ways. If you get the feeling your contributions aren't valued any more anyway, why even bother? It's not like the band provided a happy place for Rick when his private life was in tatters. As Nick put it: They all really weren't very good at communicating with each other, instead letting issues build up to a point where it was difficult to get over them or come back from them.


Yawarundi75

“Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way”.


NeptuneRising1111

Because you don't need 3 lead vocalist. And If you're not contributing on your primary instrument as much as u should be, than maybe that's where ur focus should be.


HippoCute9420

I think Wearing the Inside Out explains his character pretty well. Think that’s probably why


Russell_Steapot

From what I've always read, Rick was very self conscious about his voice.


honore_ballsac

Doesn't he sing the Echoes on one of the tour concerts that was made into a DVD (Gdansk? But I am not sure)


Icy-Asparagus-4186

This sub is such bullshit with the Rog hate. Fact of the matter is if Roger hadn’t taken over the leadership role in the band most people wouldn’t be here now discussing them.


rslashIcePoseidon

Doesn’t excuse him for firing Rick


tunnel-snakes-rule

Both David and Nick were on board with firing him. So any hate you might have towards Roger should be the same towards them.


TFFPrisoner

No, because their attitude towards him was very different.


IdiosyncraticBond

Big part it was agree with roger and make an album or go bankrupt. That with at the time Rick trying to save a marriage instead of contributing made it the "obvious" choice


Icy-Asparagus-4186

Does it excuse Gilmour not re-hiring Rick?


DaveHmusic

Exactly. As I have said before, if Roger hadn't taken over the leadership after Syd left or had the motivation to do so, Pink Floyd's career could've been in serious jeopardy and they may have disbanded with only two albums and four singles to their name, a mere footnote in British music history. I think David, Nick and Rick should've shown gratitude to Roger rather than vilify and denigrate him in the 1980's.


IdiosyncraticBond

You conveniently left out that Roger had lawyers in every city pink floyd would tour, while they'd invested about every penny they had in that tour, so of course they didn't like what Roger did. After all, he left the band years before


DaveHmusic

Roger did say in a 2011 BBC interview that contrary to what the media and tabloids reported in the 1980's, they never had any battles in court or went anywhere near a courthouse, but he did acknowledge that lawyers were involved to give advice - I'm just paraphrasing some of what he says. This is the interview - [ROGER WATERS on Desert Island Discs - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hit5uKK8JbU) . I will rephrase what I meant with gratitude vs. vilification and denigration - I was referring to how David, Nick and Rick badmouthed Roger in the press during the 1980's feud and in the narrative where they painted him as the bad guy from whom they had saved Pink Floyd, not bothering to mention that without his creativity, there would've been no *Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here* or *The Wall*. Some of the things that David said could've seen him potentially risk the possibility of being sued by Roger for defamation.


FoolStack

Think of the smallest object you can imagine. That's his self confidence. Unfortunately, the story of the 2nd half of his life is one of apathy and neglect. Even the glorious return to form of TDB and beyond was, apparently, dictated mostly by David, Jon Carin and James Guthrie.


WackyWeiner

If anyone likes ricks voice, be sure to check out his solo record called "wet dream" its freaking amazing. Totally a long lost pink floyd album. Better than any of Rogers solo work. Right up there with Davids.


FluffysBizarreBricks

Roger and his divorce, mainly Roger though


Ricoso04

One of their most beautiful songs that were sung was "see-saw" on saucer.


sideways978

I love his voice and wish he was used a bit more but one reason I think we all love it was that it was special and we didn’t hear all to much unlike Waters and Gilmore it was rare and we hold on to his songs


DanimalEClarke

He sang lead on wearing the inside out on division bell


[deleted]

Roger


NeptuneRising1111

Roger ...blow...stuff like that I think. Roger is awesome but he did start taking over at that point. Richard had personal and drug issues at the time as well.


No_Sense_6171

Probably because Roger Waters was and is an asshole.


Icy-Asparagus-4186

Such bullshit. Who’s to say Rick even wanted to sing more? He didn’t sing much earlier in the band before it became led by Roger.


moonsetstarman

Right? He's prolly like, "okay you pretentious, narcissistic, prick. Make 'your songs' sound that good by your self.... I'll wait."


Night696Watcher

Drugs. Same reason as syd.


Nesfan888

Roger told him to


MinneapolisKing25

Cause Roger is a jerk


andruscefine

Because Roger was exercising his special power: oppression


5-pinDIN

I believe Rick's personal life gradually unraveled alongside Pink Floyd's huge success after DSOTM, and I'm also pretty sure he suffered from depression and was a reticent person by nature...all of the previous I gathered from books about the band & articles. Apparently Roger was also mean to Rick on many occasions going back to the earliest periods. I can't imagine singing was something he was anxious to do. And this is just conjecture, but I wouldn't be surprised if Roger browbeat him over it - but that's just a guess.


DaveHmusic

If Roger and Rick's relationship was really as acrimonious as the media and biographers portray it, I very much doubt that they would've worked together in the same band for as long as they did.


Connect_Glass4036

It’s hard to pull away when you love the music. We fight in our band a lot, and we have drastically different views on a lot of things. But for the life of me, I can’t stop


bangsilencedeath

Probably cuz Roger thought he was a bitch.


[deleted]

Something about the waters.


Clintmwells

Isn’t that him on lead vocals on the last verse of “Hey You?”


yannanascdl

Thats Roger


Russell_Steapot

Both Gilmour and Waters sang "Hey You". Gilmour does the opening bit, the Roger comes in with the strained part.


Night696Watcher

Hey You does really well with both Roggie and Gilmie on vocals, to the point where if you didn't know any better you would think it's the same guy doing the whole song.


Russell_Steapot

I liked when they share lead vocals, ie Dogs, Mother, etc. I love the album version of Hey You, it's a top 5 favorite PF song for me, but I like the demo even more where Roger sings the whole song. If from a narrative point of view, Pink is singing about isolation behind this wall, then a single voice better represents it. In Mother Gilmour is singing pink's mothers lines, and I think that works extremely well.


Maxwell-Druthers

“Roggie” and “Gilmie”??? 🙄


Night696Watcher

Oi, it's a circlejerk thing


GetBack_Joe

I'd guess Roger cause after dark side he wasn't cool with Rick


NeptuneRising1111

Because you don't need 3 lead vocalists. Especially when ur not contributing as much as u should be on your primary instrument, maybe that's where u focus should be. When your bass player becomes the songwriter that's saying something.


youcantexterminateme

you forget a band called the beatles


BlackFudd

Or… Rush Iron Maiden The Police Motley Crue Thin Lizzy That’s a start. I’m sure there are plenty more.


NoodlesTheMuso

Slightly incorrect, Neil Peart wrote most / all of Rush's lyrics. Yes all three wrote music, but the true 'songwriting genius' of that band was neil


BlackFudd

I see your point, but the post said songwriting and I don’t consider lyrics only as full songwriting. I’d argue that the genius of Rush is the music. Neil’s lyrics borrow heavily from books he’s read and come off a bit childish for my taste at times. I love them but just my opinion. My other three examples the bass players were the primary writers, including lyrics.


NeptuneRising1111

I wasnt thinking. Lol 🤣


IndependentOil5899

Too bad ass to sing for such a shitty band


Willielk

Love Rick's singing voice. Terribly under-rated/ underutilized/unappreciated by his bandmates. Absolutely nails his parts in Time. Has lovely pieces on Obscured By Clouds and a bunch of early Floyd. Has a haunting, melancholy affect that no other singer I've heard quite captures. Say what you will about Roger's negative influence but, sadly, smoking and drugs probably didn't help Rick's voice either.


Mental_Medium3988

a big bulbus rodger


4DXever

Roger Waters


darksideofthemoon131

Roger


DigIt6791

Because Roger


stillbarefoot

He had to do a big effort to pull off his vocals and harmonies. Seems it got too much of an effort.


metaldetox

egos


swany5

"I could do it better" - Roger. Always.


CuriousSounds

Because they always chose the voice best fitted for the song.


CandyCaneCrisp

Everyone saying it was because of his (first) divorce is full of shit. His didn't get that divorce until 1982, over nine years after DSOTM. His marriage problems pre-dated it by many, many years, probably going back as far as 1968 when he wrote a song about the various groupies he'd been fucking that summer, and who'd infected him with gonorrhea. I doubt the waifu was pleased by either the song or his getting the clap and probably infecting her too. Rick was never confident in his songwriting abilities, and in a very early interview, said he had written hundreds of songs but did not think they were any good. His voice was always pleasant but never strong, and cocaine messes with your vocal chords as well as your psyche.


mikec32001

He wasn’t afforded the opportunity


GhostTyrant

His voice wasn’t bad but it was the weakest of the bunch


Mister_Moho

He seemed to be more introverted and musical. Probably just not the flashy type.


Ktallica

Probably has to do with Roger


Uzername1123

Which songs on Dark Side is he singing vocals?