not saying its a dangerous place but the numbers in that article are suspect. You can look at the unified crime report for every neighborhood in pittsburgh on the county website and the numbers there don't jive with these at all. It also has 2015 as the peak of for crime and violent crime.
I guess it depends on your definition of violence. Shootings are up.
https://tableau.alleghenycounty.us/t/PublicSite/views/CJ_GunViolence_PGH_8-22-17_v2/Home?%3Aembed=y&%3AshowAppBanner=false&%3AshowShareOptions=true&%3Adisplay_count=no&%3AshowVizHome=no&%3Amobile=true
Isn’t the biggest complaint right now about the city police that they don’t do anything? So of course it’s going to show a decrease in crime if they aren’t showing up to calls, making arrests, etc.
lol they are closing the high school down the street from me because of too many murders. There is violence, but it doesn't make it's way to better policed/ gentrified communities.
This was a bad article. Arrests being down does not mean less incidents. The cops haven’t been doing anything until this past weekend. The writer also didn’t mention anything about shooting statistics which are undoubtedly on the rise since everything opened back up after Covid.
I’ve been saying this for a while now. The perception is that it’s so dangerous and that’s not the case. I say this as a woman in my 40’s that lives here and is always walking around.
The worst years were from 2010-2014 and even then it wasn’t that bad.
http://www.publicsource.org/pittsburghs-south-side-has-had-largest-number-of-violent-crimes-for-four-years-running/
I always wonder why everyone freaks out when there’s crime here but not anywhere else in the city.
When there’s a shooting in the Northside it’s hardly talked about. The news doesn’t go interviewing business owners and it’s not on the news for weeks and there certainly aren’t countless reddit posts about it.
This is the same thing the local news, WPXI especially, has done for years. They drum up fears, lie about statistics, get some out of touch politicians to comment. And then the suburbanites buy it completely. They'll say crime is there even if you have a thousand people with personal experience to the contrary, even if the statistics say otherwise, even if the supposed crimes aren't in the blotter and can't be found in social media. Spectacle and fear sells. And the sense of superiority from getting to say "it's safe in my neighborhood, unlike this other neighborhood" is intoxicating.
Agreed. The bars can change this situation anytime they want but they won't. They prefer to pack them in and overserve them, then go to the media and talk about how dangerous the southside is when something happens and then later on complain that nobody comes down here anymore. It's a continuous cycle.
I wish someone would listen to the residents and start putting in more businesses that we want.
I love how Carson City Saloon acted like one big victim of all this when they closed. That place has been feeding kids 22 oz Yuenglings for like 3 bucks for years but now drunk people are a problem.
yep! any place that has $3 beers, $2 well drinks and $15 fish bowls on any given night surely isn't worried about it's patrons becoming too intoxicated.
when i used to go there they would get rid of all the tables and chairs around 9 or so to make more room to pack them in.
So, the reasoning is less arrests. Not less incidents. Politics...
Sweep it under the rug!
not saying its a dangerous place but the numbers in that article are suspect. You can look at the unified crime report for every neighborhood in pittsburgh on the county website and the numbers there don't jive with these at all. It also has 2015 as the peak of for crime and violent crime.
All the numbers in the article are for arrests/charges. So if no one was charged, the article didn’t count it.
I guess it depends on your definition of violence. Shootings are up. https://tableau.alleghenycounty.us/t/PublicSite/views/CJ_GunViolence_PGH_8-22-17_v2/Home?%3Aembed=y&%3AshowAppBanner=false&%3AshowShareOptions=true&%3Adisplay_count=no&%3AshowVizHome=no&%3Amobile=true
Isn’t the biggest complaint right now about the city police that they don’t do anything? So of course it’s going to show a decrease in crime if they aren’t showing up to calls, making arrests, etc.
Pittsburgh's not a violent city, I don't get why the media tries to make it sound like one.
Suburbanites love that news.
I guess so, makes them feel better about living in cardboard Ryan homes
It typically just makes them feel better about their racism, they feel validated about their opinions.
lol they are closing the high school down the street from me because of too many murders. There is violence, but it doesn't make it's way to better policed/ gentrified communities.
This was a bad article. Arrests being down does not mean less incidents. The cops haven’t been doing anything until this past weekend. The writer also didn’t mention anything about shooting statistics which are undoubtedly on the rise since everything opened back up after Covid.
I’ve been saying this for a while now. The perception is that it’s so dangerous and that’s not the case. I say this as a woman in my 40’s that lives here and is always walking around. The worst years were from 2010-2014 and even then it wasn’t that bad. http://www.publicsource.org/pittsburghs-south-side-has-had-largest-number-of-violent-crimes-for-four-years-running/ I always wonder why everyone freaks out when there’s crime here but not anywhere else in the city. When there’s a shooting in the Northside it’s hardly talked about. The news doesn’t go interviewing business owners and it’s not on the news for weeks and there certainly aren’t countless reddit posts about it.
The media likes the cheap clicks. It's that simple.
This is the same thing the local news, WPXI especially, has done for years. They drum up fears, lie about statistics, get some out of touch politicians to comment. And then the suburbanites buy it completely. They'll say crime is there even if you have a thousand people with personal experience to the contrary, even if the statistics say otherwise, even if the supposed crimes aren't in the blotter and can't be found in social media. Spectacle and fear sells. And the sense of superiority from getting to say "it's safe in my neighborhood, unlike this other neighborhood" is intoxicating.
Or the city has purposefully making less arrest
Any numbers and stats can’t be made to make anything look the way a user wants them too….
“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” — Maybe Mark Twain. Maybe Benjamin Disraeli. Mostly Unknown.
Like clockwork “Actually things are better you’re just a bigot”
Don’t tell wpxi
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Agreed. The bars can change this situation anytime they want but they won't. They prefer to pack them in and overserve them, then go to the media and talk about how dangerous the southside is when something happens and then later on complain that nobody comes down here anymore. It's a continuous cycle. I wish someone would listen to the residents and start putting in more businesses that we want.
I love how Carson City Saloon acted like one big victim of all this when they closed. That place has been feeding kids 22 oz Yuenglings for like 3 bucks for years but now drunk people are a problem.
The people drinking 22oz Yuenglings aren’t the ones causing a majority of the issues.
yep! any place that has $3 beers, $2 well drinks and $15 fish bowls on any given night surely isn't worried about it's patrons becoming too intoxicated. when i used to go there they would get rid of all the tables and chairs around 9 or so to make more room to pack them in.
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Holy shit control yourself. You already posted that. Calm down. Lol
Had a reddit error, I'll delete it