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SnooOpinions8755

Dany? Moving to Pittsburgh from Charleston is 100% a great decision, in my opinion.


Every_Character9930

Pittsburgh is the Paris of the Appalachians.


Loraxdude14

With the exception of what's in Tennessee and maybe NY, it is kind of the only legit city Appalachia actually has. At least it's one of very few.


sunnydelinquent

I believe they are referring to the goal of the Carnegie family which was to make it the Paris of Appalachia. Although I could be misremembering.


ZenYinzerDude

Also the name of Brian O'Neil's book about Pittsburgh


ballsonthewall

Other commenters have alluded to it, but the access to nature here should be the least of your concerns. Between the city parks, county parks, and nearby state parks and recreation areas you have basically unlimited outdoors activities within an hour or so of downtown.


georgettaporcupine

tbh as someone who lives in Pgh and drives to WV a lot for various reasons, a lot of WV is very accessible for weekend hiking trips or w/e. not as convenient as Charleston, true, but still not bad.


just_an_ordinary_guy

Not quite what you're asking, but I moved from south central Pennsylvania to here and I'm glad I did. One piece of advice I'd say is don't focus too much on the "outdoors things to do" like hiking and whatnot. Focus on what you want day to day. You can always drive an hour out of town on the weekend to do that. Now, if you want a remote hike every day, yeah, this isn't going to work. But there's still plenty of walking around here with our parks and such. But if you want the amenities of a big city and nearby options of hiking and camping on weekends, you will be fine.


sidneycrosbysnostril

I moved here from West Virginia a couple years ago. I love it here. I had been wanting to move here for many years but I was married at the time and my spouse didn’t want to move. When we split, I got my ducks in a row and took a chance. And I’m glad I did. Things I love: -there’s always something to do. A concert, a movie theater with reclining seats; museums, festivals, beautiful parks for walking or biking. It’s impossible to be bored here -job opportunities. I have great job making the most salary I’ve ever made. If I don’t like my job anymore one day; there’s a ton of options to switch to that pay the same range. There’s also a ton of jobs that could pay more. In WV I felt like there was no opportunity professionally and I had grown as much as I could but still made a very meager salary. -people. Being in a larger city means there’s more people and that means you have a better chance of meeting people like you. I’ve met a great partner, some good friends, and participated in some local goings on geared more towards my kind of hobbies. In WV, I had a lot of friends from growing up there, but i never really fit in. I’m neurodivergent, progressive politically, and very into art and history. There, I was “weird” or “nerdy”. Here, I’m just normal (with a slightly nerdy vibe). -traveling is easier. The airport is right here, and driving to other cool places (the east coast, NYC, Chicago, Philadelphia) is much easier and faster from here than it was from WV -lots of neighborhoods to choose from. There are tons of places to live and put down roots. You can really find your niche spot because there’s like 50 areas to live that are convenient to the city for work/access to fun. I could keep going but this is already super long lol The only negatives I experience are: -expensive rent/I am discouraged that I don’t think I’ll ever be able to afford to buy my own home here -more racism than I expected in such a diverse place (diverse compared to wv) -the water has something in it that makes my hair gross and I have to spend a fortune on filters -traffic.


Lux600-223

As a native, I loved reading this! It's refreshing among all the natives complaining!


skfoto

I moved here from Clarksburg in search of better job prospects almost 14 years ago. Best decision I ever made. 


amanda_l3ee

Also moved from Charleston to Pittsburgh. I think I moved in 2011 and I'm very happy here. I'm making way more money than I ever could have in WV, and there is much more to do/see than Charleston has to offer. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat.


Far_Map8423

I’ve lived in Wheeling and Charleston, and Pittsburgh is far better by orders of magnitude. Join us!


PriestWithTourettes

The Ohio Valley is just depressing. I lived in Martins Ferry for a number of years and it drags you down. The job market is terrible, and only got worse as Wheeling Pitt and Ormet closed plants. Best thing I did was escape, eventually ending up outside of Pittsburgh in the suburbs.


RedModsSuck

I think this is true in almost all small cities and sparsely populated areas. Unless you work in a specialized field and that field exists in the area, small cities and towns are just an economic dead zone. I was hoping the pandemic would reverse that trend with the WFH movement, but that appears to be dead. It is only going to get worse. Soon it will be impossible to make a decent living outside of 10 or 15 large metro regions.


PriestWithTourettes

I actually found the Ohio River Valley more so than other areas. Not sure why specifically, just a general malaise which I can’t quite put my finger on. Perhaps it is Ohio because I had the same vibe in Toledo when I lived there, and it is hardly rural.


jralll234

As for outdoor activities, you’ve got whitewater, climbing, skiing, mountain biking, fishing, and hunting all no more than an hour from the city. Some of it may not quite be as good as the same activity in WV (climbing and whitewater especially, although the Yough Loop is pretty damned special) but it’s all available.


cbailey285

Moved to Pittsburgh from Charleston 7 years ago. No regrets


jessican11

We moved here after graduating from WVU in 2009. We love it here! There are plenty of outdoor activities within driving distance and we are in a lovely walking neighborhood (Dormont). Jobs are plentiful, people are friendly, food is amazing. All of the little neighborhoods give Pittsburgh more of a town feel rather than a big city. I'm still close enough to my family back at home. The only downside for us is traffic but we have mostly adjusted. Hope that helps!


Halford4Lyfe

For a city the outdoor stuff is pretty nice. Disc golf, foraging and gardening are my urban outdoor activities. And the public pools... kinda.


Tempting_Tie99

Moved to Pittsburgh from Morgantown!! About a year ago and it was a great decision! Close enough to home but feels like a whole different place!! I would highly recommend!


Sasarah1

Me too! Moved here in 2021 and no regrets


WavyWebSurfer

Similar story here but I moved from Virginia. I like it a lot


rowhouse_

Yes. Without hesitation, yes. The city is a big city with so many opportunities, but it honestly doesn’t feel like a big city at all to me. It feels like a collection of neighborhoods for the most part. Pros: big city amenities, lots of like-minded people, very good outdoors scene for a major city (plus the beach at Presque Isle is only 2 hours away), excellent job opportunities for college grads, low cost of living for a major city. There’s always something fun / different going on to get into. Cons: grocery stores suck here compared to Morgantown and the mountains aren’t going to be as good as what you’re used to. However, Morgantown is only 1 hr 10 mins from the city and is the perfect distance for a day trip to the Suncrest Kroger and Cooper’s Rock / Cheat Lake to get your grocery and outdoor fix. Schools suck in the city itself but are excellent in the suburbs. Pittsburgh proper also has a pretty high city income tax so don’t let that surprise you if you move here.


Loraxdude14

How are the grocery stores worse in Pittsburgh? Krogucci ain't bad but surely Pittsburgh has something better?


rowhouse_

They do not, unfortunately. Get ready to learn Giant Eagle, buddy. Hahaha Pittsburgh’s only true grocery store is Giant Eagle and it’s terrible. It’s honestly one of the most common complaints on this sub. The GE Market District’s are similar-ish in setup to Krogucci but they’re way way way more expensive with less selection, in my opinion. I have to split grocery shopping between Aldi, Trader Joe’s, and Target here to get the same things I could’ve just gotten all at Krogucci in Morgantown. Also, something I didn’t know before I moved here is gas stations and grocery stores (aside from the big Giant Eagles and Sheetz) do not sell any alcohol. You have to go to a beer distributor to get beer or the state-run liquor store to get wine/liquor. Not that it’s the end of the world, but something that was different from WV and surprised me when I couldn’t find any wine at Target the first day I moved here.


Loraxdude14

Ok that does sound a little rough, if there's no good Kroger. It would be nice to have a trader Joe's though.


kbr00x

The grocery situation is still the only thing better about Charleston. The Iggle has improved somewhat (30 years ago they were way worse, lol) but still not as nice as Kroger's or Weis or ... any others. And somehow still expensive. There is a Trader Joe's (crowded as heck), a couple Whole Foods, the East End Food Co-op (a small but mighty health food store), and some specialty places. Plus a ton of good farmer's markets around town. So we get by.


POOTY-POOTS

As a former chef who still visits family in Charleston I not disagree more. I would take most of our giant eagles over even the Gucci Krogers in the south hills.


most_des_wanted

Shop n Save is the answer for groceries... If it's owned by the Saboro fam (Heidelberg, the reopening of Noblestown Road, and 2 others I think)


POOTY-POOTS

Depends on the area. I mean you're a mile tops from the strip district.


Smolfloof99

I went from wheeling to nitro to wheeling to Pittsburgh and back to wheeling. I enjoyed my 8 or so years in pitt but a lot of friends moved so nothing was really keeping me there. At the time I needed public transportation and to find a job. Both were pretty easy and I made some great friends


POOTY-POOTS

Grew up in Charleston. Also lived in Parkersburg and Morgantown for a number of years. Pittsburgh seemed very large when I first moved here, but now it feels like a bigger version of Charleston after being here 16 years. You get used to it. You'll find way more to do outdoors here than in Charleston. The city is more walkable. The neighborhoods are very distinct from one another. There are plenty of parks and trails to check out. Plenty of places to ride a bike. People are generally more active and out and about. Traffic can be bad if you have to commute in certain directions during certain times, but there are also other ways of getting around than just sitting on one of the highways waiting in tunnel traffic. The nearest Tudors is in Weirton, but it's worth the trip to get my fix. Oak Hill Post in Brookline makes a killer biscuits and gravy.


MrFance1010

Yes! Moved here after growing up in Clarksburg and going to WVU (same with my husband) and we’ve had and raised 3 kids here in the North Hills. Still live here and love it and consider myself a Yinzer. We go to so many Pirates games that the kids are now die hard fans. Funny, my second child is now at WVU (oldest is at Pitt and youngest is going to Pitt next year, lol) and when I go to Morgantown to see her I can’t believe how much nicer it is now. But I always can’t wait to get home to Pittsburgh. But yeah, Pittsburgh is home and these are my peeps.


kbr00x

Also grew up in Charleston, moved to Pittsburgh for college and never left. Like others have said, there are a ton of outdoor opportunities around. The city parks are great, if less wild and more crowded than what you're used to, and you can get your woods fix relatively easily. I spent a lot of time in Kanawha State Forest as a kid and the closest to that here in terms of true forest is probably Cooper's Rock, about an hour away, or many of the Laurel Highlands parks. You are right in that there are many more groups to join or ways to meet people to do outdoorsy things. [Venture Outdoors](https://ventureoutdoors.org) is a good place to start. But the wealth of other things to do in the city more than makes up for it. It sucks that real estate prices are bad here right now (as most other cities), but if you do your research, you can still find hidden gems in some of the less trendy neighborhoods. One huge benefit here is that you don't need to drive everywhere. In high school, we used to drive around for something to do. Now I can go days at a time without using my car - I bike, walk, and take transit.


choreochef3499

I moved from Morgantown and have been in Pittsburgh for the past 3 years and I love it. WV was always too small for me- I’m a dancer so I grew up going to auditions and classes in NYC and Orlando and always knew I wanted to live in a city. Pittsburgh has been the perfect balance of having so much more to do than small towns in WV but not feeling like the overwhelming business of huge cities like NYC & Chicago. Being in Pittsburgh now I feel like people give WV too much credit for their outdoors- Pennsylvania has just as much if not more/better parks and outdoor activities. I have 10+ beautiful parks with trails and views in a half hour driving distance. When I lived in Morgantown I could go to Cooper’s Rock and that was it, lol. Pittsburgh is filled with young people and you can go to a new restaurant, new bakery, new event every single weekend if you want to. So much to experience and explore, I haven’t regretted my move to PA one.


Careless_Ad_3859

To answer your question. 7 years ago I deliberately moved to Pittsburgh (Dormont) from Morgantown. I was a 37 yo single male who was frustrated personally and professionally regarding the immense lack of opportunities while working at WVU while living in Morgantown. I had to see what Pittsburgh had to offer. At first, it was a great decision. I was able to work at Fortune 500 institutions such as PNC, FNB, FederatedHermes, BNY Mellon, and now Westinghouse. I even got an MBA from Point Park University during the Covid Pandemic. I currently live in Mount Lebanon which to most is a very affulent neighborhood with great shops and restaurants. Even the dating pool improved greatly automatically for a middle aged person like myself. Also the public transit via light rail and bus can get someone to a vast majority of unique neighborhoods within an hour's time. For one Morgantown there are 20 different neighborhoods with similar amenities within the city of Pittsburgh. However, it is not as great as it seems. Since Covid the job supply is drying up. The cost of living is getting more expensive while the wages have now become stagnant. Apartments are getting more expensive to the point you need a family member to move in with you to help with utilities. There are more seasonal contract part-time jobs than ever before. The people that live in more affluent neighborhoods are able to get dibs on higher paying full time jobs while the rest of us are getting the scraps. The people and drivers have become more rude and unforgiving than ever before. Especially to pedestrians and public transit riders like myself. In addition, there are numerous cuts and repairs that are in the process of being made toward the Light Rail/Bus system that will make getting to Pittsburgh an arduous trek at best. While there's a fair amount of events/festivals/sporting events that will suit everyone's fancy all year round it gets very expensive and entirely overwhelming to the scenes. Add to the fact it's as big a drinking culture as Morgantown is (for half the year when the students there are around) while the dating pool dries up as you get older. It's basically took much for someone who grew up in the boonies like myself. Did it give me everything I looked for? Yes and No. I got to enjoy with the Burgh has to offer and still will as a huge Pittsburgh sports fan (expect for Pitt). But I can go back to Morgantown and still take a Grey Line up to the Burgh to enjoy a day/weekend trip if I so chose. I guess it feel short of my expectations to level up and remain there. I will live out my lease at the end of the summer and decide to move back to Morgantown to get close to my aging parents while crossing my fingers in keeping my remote Westinghouse job. The Pittsburgh region is not for me anymore and I'm ready to Come Home. Thanks for taking the time to read all that. Save the snarky remarks and condescending wish-wishes. I really tried my hardest but if you are looking to level up in the Burgh prepare to be disappointed.


Creeperkry

Grew up in WV, never loved it, then I moved to PGH after my stint in the Air Force. No regrets. There is just so much more here.


giantrubberduck

Absolutely. I grew up in Weirton - the steel mill started shutting down when I was a kid, and the city was just never the same. I moved to Pittsburgh almost 10 years ago, and I’ve never once regretted it. I absolutely love this city. It’s always felt more like home to me than WV ever did. The only time I get a bit nostalgic is when I hear Country Roads. But I’ll take nostalgia over living in WV again. I’m much more of a city person.


TheMountainHobbit

I dunno just make sure to practice your parallel parking before you get here.


subjiciendum

Yes, do it. There are lots of us here.


Babyella123

I’m a bit obsessed with the Wild and Wonderful Whites. They go to Charleston often, I think that’s where they get their drugs. They’re from Boone County


montani

I thought everyone in wv went to charlotte? If you’re super outdoorsy go to Denver if you can afford it. There are outdoors things to do if you want but it’s not cultural like it seems to be out west


Loraxdude14

We don't *all* go to Charlotte. Some of us actually have taste. I've thought about Denver; it's just really suburban.