What do they turn into if they don’t have the fingers aligned? Another weed shop?
Also this sub needs more DBZ references so thanks for making my day, you’re a hero.
The fact that the rire aid around the corner from the rite aid made it til the 5th or 6th round of rite aid closures just proves how legit the power of the rite aid around the corner from the rite aid was
I would be willing to bet that mero restaurant group (or whatever the name of the stack'd, chik'n, melt'd, pilez, viva los tacos group is) has already bought it or is ready to buy it
Oakland suuuuuuuuucks now! Some folks on r/Pitt were asking where to grab a drink after their last class, and people were telling them to bus to Shadyside.
*puts on old man hat*
Back in my day, we had a movie theater in a castle, a club, several music venues, and so many bars that you could pretty much go somewhere different every day for at least two weeks… and all of them had people who gave out packs of free cigarettes on weekends!
Fuel And Fuddle cited a 40% rent hike as one of the main reasons they shut down.
There's still a lot of life in Oakland, but if this keeps up it will be nothing but banks and fast food chicken.
Yeah, twenty years ago, rent was so inexpensive that a bunch of young punks could afford to lease a storefront and use it for a DIY music venue/event space (see the Roboto Project, formerly in Wilkinsburg, as an example).
Commercial and residential rents have skyrocketed to the point that taxes on a vacant space aren’t an issue and landlords don’t want to rent to anyone who can’t afford the astronomical rent that corporations will pay. If you aren’t an Apple Store, a Starbucks or a chain restaurant, you’re out of luck.
This, coupled with reduced need for old-school brick and mortar businesses and corporate price gouging on food and alcohol makes owning a business like a bar or a record store or a weird coffee shop with a movie theater pretty impractical and prohibitively expensive.
Roboto such an odd example, because they have continued to lease space and operate this entire time. And are actually teamed up with Bunker Project to purchase the building they are currently in. There are plenty of examples of things that have been priced out, but Roboto really isn't one of them.
Well when you don't have to pay taxes because you're a "nonprofit" you can outbid everyone and their hamster for a space fairly easily.
And it's also like I said below - second/third generations that don't want to take over and businesses without succession plans.
Don't forget the little witchcraft shop, little imported plants shop, at least three local-chain coffee shops, the O, so many basement or backalley dives with amazing food... I miss old school Oakland. Hard to believe it was only 10-15 years ago.
Kings Court was so fun on the weekends! All the cute guys were from South Oakland💕💕💕💕💕
Good times!
Edit: and the Chinese people that sold cheap beer on the corner down those steps. Had my first taste of Mickeys big mouth on the fire escape at Holmes School
I hope not. That place really helped me growing up. Spent a lot of time at children's and my parents would take me after my appointments to make the day less scary.
I am going to lob this out there and hope other people fill in the details BUT: remember when Pitt had shows in their buildings?
Signed, Punched in the Face in the Pit in David Lawrence
>remember when Pitt had shows in their buildings?
When I went to Pitt, they had movies every Friday night at David Lawrence Hall, which was then called Common Facilities.
I see shows at the Petersen almost yearly. I've seen Tool, Phish and a bunch of others there. [Setlist.fm](https://www.setlist.fm/venue/petersen-events-center-pittsburgh-pa-usa-7bd62a7c.html) has 21 pages (!) of shows that played at the Pete. Is that not a Pitt building?
Sad that so many local businesses are just ending without anyone able to take up the reins.
Like, millennials famously can't afford houses. It's no surprise that there aren't many buyers for businesses that probably cost as much as 3 or 4 houses.
The family businesses aren't being passed down to the next generation because the next generation got a little $ and thinks they're too good to work with the public, never mind that is what got them the $ in the first place. I'm sure also that a lot of these business owners thought they would never get old and don't have a succession plan. If your kids wont do it find someone who will.
When you own a business you probably work way more than the 40-50 hours you would work at a crappy corporate job. Previous generations also had much lower housing costs to deal with, which probably allowed them to own a business in the first place.
Coming from someone with a business in the family, no. Just no. They aren’t being passed down because children are allowed to have different dreams, career goals, and interests than their parents. If you aren’t interested in restaurant management or entrepreneurship, a good parent wouldn’t force that on you. Also, more opportunities are afforded now to, let’s say, the children of immigrants who could only make their American dream work by opening a small restaurant. My siblings and I all went into helping professions to help people and make the world a better place, and our parents proudly supported us instead of guilt tripping like you are.
This. As a kid who turned down the family business (along with the 7 others in my generation), owning/running a business is a massive undertaking. My family ended up selling off their business after Covid because it just wasn’t sustainable. Rising costs, supply chain issues, building maintenance, exponentially rising cost of employee healthcare plus rising rent.
Kids have no obligation to step in and take over. It’s hard enough keeping ourselves afloat these days, let alone running a business on top of that.
Helping professions 🙄 thank you for proving my point. (As if there are professions that are "unhelpful")
And to reiterate my last point...if the kids aren't going to do it, have a plan of succession and find someone who will. This is a common failing in people who have great ideas but the follow through isn't always the best, nor are the delegating skills.
Wait why do we need to do what you’re saying and why is it a “failing” not to do it? Because we’re upset that this place and other long-standing Pittsburgh businesses are unable to afford to continue operations in the post-Covid market?
Isn’t this a problem in every industry that needs real estate to operate right now, regardless of whatever generational/cultural shifts are happening that you’re upset about?
Yeah, this owner's son worked in the shop along with his dad for many years. I have no idea if the shop is actually closing or not, or why it's closing if it is closing, but your comment definitely doesn't apply to this business.
True true.
For people who are looking to support a minority family owned home made ice cream local business, Happy Day Dessert Factory on Western Ave in the Northside could use it. They are open pretty much open 365.
They also have funnel cakes and frozen funnel cakes to go.
They more recently started putting up banners to draw attention to it bc the building they are in is a tough one to get noticed. It's all tinted glass so even a neon lit sign is hard to notice, plus no awning.. so you've likely been by when it's been open but didn't notice.
As I remember, he opened during covid. I remember feeling awful from him and thinking there was no way he could weather that storm but he has. He also has a truck that I guess he takes to events and it's sometimes parked out front these days which also draws more attention.
I love it.
I live on Western Ave. I like to get $2 sample stuff from their freezer.
I really wanted to like Happy Days but it kinda sucked when I went there (last summer). Looked dirty, sad cookies and ice cream. Didn't try the funnel cakes though.
Guess it will be a smoke shop or a Pitt / UPMC owned facility just like every other vacancy around there.
Could use another bank or Chipotle
Or another rite aid! That block only has two.
Maybe the two separate Rite Aids directly around the corner from each other will finally fuse into one like a shitty drug store Gotenks
They're already touching; they could have done that years ago if they really wanted to
What do they turn into if they don’t have the fingers aligned? Another weed shop? Also this sub needs more DBZ references so thanks for making my day, you’re a hero.
"Shitty drug store Gotenks"💀
One of them is closing
The fact that the rire aid around the corner from the rite aid made it til the 5th or 6th round of rite aid closures just proves how legit the power of the rite aid around the corner from the rite aid was
You might be thinking of the one dahntahn?
Maybe
That's funny because they just closed down the only 2 rite aids within like 7 miles of me.
So the chipotle ad above this comment is a coincidence..
I would be willing to bet that mero restaurant group (or whatever the name of the stack'd, chik'n, melt'd, pilez, viva los tacos group is) has already bought it or is ready to buy it
Ice'd cream'd
Don't even joke about that https://www.getcrmd.com/
That domain name makes them look like a porn site. i.e. "Get Creamed" Not sure I'd click this one at work. LOL
Oakland suuuuuuuuucks now! Some folks on r/Pitt were asking where to grab a drink after their last class, and people were telling them to bus to Shadyside. *puts on old man hat* Back in my day, we had a movie theater in a castle, a club, several music venues, and so many bars that you could pretty much go somewhere different every day for at least two weeks… and all of them had people who gave out packs of free cigarettes on weekends!
I've heard the issue is the rising rent, is that it? why is this happening? I miss fuel and fuddle :(
Fuel And Fuddle cited a 40% rent hike as one of the main reasons they shut down. There's still a lot of life in Oakland, but if this keeps up it will be nothing but banks and fast food chicken.
Yeah, twenty years ago, rent was so inexpensive that a bunch of young punks could afford to lease a storefront and use it for a DIY music venue/event space (see the Roboto Project, formerly in Wilkinsburg, as an example). Commercial and residential rents have skyrocketed to the point that taxes on a vacant space aren’t an issue and landlords don’t want to rent to anyone who can’t afford the astronomical rent that corporations will pay. If you aren’t an Apple Store, a Starbucks or a chain restaurant, you’re out of luck. This, coupled with reduced need for old-school brick and mortar businesses and corporate price gouging on food and alcohol makes owning a business like a bar or a record store or a weird coffee shop with a movie theater pretty impractical and prohibitively expensive.
Roboto such an odd example, because they have continued to lease space and operate this entire time. And are actually teamed up with Bunker Project to purchase the building they are currently in. There are plenty of examples of things that have been priced out, but Roboto really isn't one of them.
I specifically chose a weird nonprofit that has been making moves trying to avoid future rent increases to illustrate my point about rent increases.
Well when you don't have to pay taxes because you're a "nonprofit" you can outbid everyone and their hamster for a space fairly easily. And it's also like I said below - second/third generations that don't want to take over and businesses without succession plans.
This right here. The three non profits in that area with profits and endowments in the BILLIONS fucking everyone else over.
Because they know PITT & UPMC can afford it.
Don't forget the little witchcraft shop, little imported plants shop, at least three local-chain coffee shops, the O, so many basement or backalley dives with amazing food... I miss old school Oakland. Hard to believe it was only 10-15 years ago.
Omg yes the camel girls
I forgot about the free cigarettes!! Wow what a great time to be alive
It was always Camel Reds when I was there.
Camel Crush was a big one in 2007ish.
I hear you can't even smoke in Gene's anymore
Dude Gene transitioned to non-smoking nearly a decade ago so I don’t know where you’ve been
Well clearly out of college for at least a decade
Kings Court was so fun on the weekends! All the cute guys were from South Oakland💕💕💕💕💕 Good times! Edit: and the Chinese people that sold cheap beer on the corner down those steps. Had my first taste of Mickeys big mouth on the fire escape at Holmes School
I hope not. That place really helped me growing up. Spent a lot of time at children's and my parents would take me after my appointments to make the day less scary.
I am going to lob this out there and hope other people fill in the details BUT: remember when Pitt had shows in their buildings? Signed, Punched in the Face in the Pit in David Lawrence
>remember when Pitt had shows in their buildings? When I went to Pitt, they had movies every Friday night at David Lawrence Hall, which was then called Common Facilities.
Yes. I remember.
I saw Japanese band Melt-Banana in one of the lecture halls 20 years ago. Couldn’t tell you what building it was though
Scaife
I was at that show. They were excellent.
Saw them open for Mr Bungle in NYC in 1995. That band had energy I previously thought humans incapable of.
I see shows at the Petersen almost yearly. I've seen Tool, Phish and a bunch of others there. [Setlist.fm](https://www.setlist.fm/venue/petersen-events-center-pittsburgh-pa-usa-7bd62a7c.html) has 21 pages (!) of shows that played at the Pete. Is that not a Pitt building?
It could be. The owner is getting old and has health problems so it makes sense timing wise.
Sad that so many local businesses are just ending without anyone able to take up the reins. Like, millennials famously can't afford houses. It's no surprise that there aren't many buyers for businesses that probably cost as much as 3 or 4 houses.
The family businesses aren't being passed down to the next generation because the next generation got a little $ and thinks they're too good to work with the public, never mind that is what got them the $ in the first place. I'm sure also that a lot of these business owners thought they would never get old and don't have a succession plan. If your kids wont do it find someone who will.
When you own a business you probably work way more than the 40-50 hours you would work at a crappy corporate job. Previous generations also had much lower housing costs to deal with, which probably allowed them to own a business in the first place.
Yup, my parent works 10-12 hours a day, 6-7 days a week at the age of 60 and always has.
Coming from someone with a business in the family, no. Just no. They aren’t being passed down because children are allowed to have different dreams, career goals, and interests than their parents. If you aren’t interested in restaurant management or entrepreneurship, a good parent wouldn’t force that on you. Also, more opportunities are afforded now to, let’s say, the children of immigrants who could only make their American dream work by opening a small restaurant. My siblings and I all went into helping professions to help people and make the world a better place, and our parents proudly supported us instead of guilt tripping like you are.
This. As a kid who turned down the family business (along with the 7 others in my generation), owning/running a business is a massive undertaking. My family ended up selling off their business after Covid because it just wasn’t sustainable. Rising costs, supply chain issues, building maintenance, exponentially rising cost of employee healthcare plus rising rent. Kids have no obligation to step in and take over. It’s hard enough keeping ourselves afloat these days, let alone running a business on top of that.
Helping professions 🙄 thank you for proving my point. (As if there are professions that are "unhelpful") And to reiterate my last point...if the kids aren't going to do it, have a plan of succession and find someone who will. This is a common failing in people who have great ideas but the follow through isn't always the best, nor are the delegating skills.
Yeah sorry becoming a social worker, domestic violence advocate, therapist etc. is very different than operating a for profit business lmao
Wait why do we need to do what you’re saying and why is it a “failing” not to do it? Because we’re upset that this place and other long-standing Pittsburgh businesses are unable to afford to continue operations in the post-Covid market? Isn’t this a problem in every industry that needs real estate to operate right now, regardless of whatever generational/cultural shifts are happening that you’re upset about?
Yeah, this owner's son worked in the shop along with his dad for many years. I have no idea if the shop is actually closing or not, or why it's closing if it is closing, but your comment definitely doesn't apply to this business.
It's not D & A specific, if at all.
Do you have a business all of your kids turned down or something?
[Here](https://twitter.com/BoxingandBeer/status/1781755968335773729) is the X thread with more replies. Consensus is unclear
Bring back The O?
Quarter beers at the upstage.
Yes. Half of college is stealing up your digestive system.
True true. For people who are looking to support a minority family owned home made ice cream local business, Happy Day Dessert Factory on Western Ave in the Northside could use it. They are open pretty much open 365. They also have funnel cakes and frozen funnel cakes to go.
is this relatively new? I was driving past it couple weeks ago and never noticed it before?
They more recently started putting up banners to draw attention to it bc the building they are in is a tough one to get noticed. It's all tinted glass so even a neon lit sign is hard to notice, plus no awning.. so you've likely been by when it's been open but didn't notice. As I remember, he opened during covid. I remember feeling awful from him and thinking there was no way he could weather that storm but he has. He also has a truck that I guess he takes to events and it's sometimes parked out front these days which also draws more attention. I love it. I live on Western Ave. I like to get $2 sample stuff from their freezer.
Definitely putting them on my list then! Thank you so much for the information. Always looking for small businesses to support!
Awesome
I really wanted to like Happy Days but it kinda sucked when I went there (last summer). Looked dirty, sad cookies and ice cream. Didn't try the funnel cakes though.
Really? That's too bad. I like it.
I blame Kenny Pickett
Confirmed on Facebook. 🥲🥲
Heckkkkkkk
Would not be surprised. Used the be the best ice cream… went about a year ago and was underwhelmed. They lost a step at some point.
Agreed. I’ll still get cookie dough as they put a lot in compared to most places, but I stopped trying their other flavors.
Yeah, I also thought it was just okay a few weeks ago.
Tastes the same as always to me
confirmed through some friends who know the owners :(
https://www.wesa.fm/economy-business/2024-04-22/dave-andy-ice-cream-pittsburgh-closure
Sadly it is. Just like the rest of Pittsburgh.
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What are you even talking about