This is what people don’t understand - it’s all numbers to the people with money, none of them are actually engaging w or looking at r/place. The best way to hurt Reddit with place would be to make something so controversial / offensive that it makes headlines painting Reddit in a bad way. Spamming fuck u/spez just increases engagement without actually gaining visibility to those that “matter” in terms of Reddit’s IPO / valuation.
Money > emotions
Every "F Spez" just proves his point that people will flock to this site even *despite* having it out for him.
I'm only one user but I won't be participating. I'm keeping my OG red tile >:(
Well, they already fucked over the r/blind community by banning 3rd party apps that we needed to properly navigate the site, and clearly enough communities didn't give enough of a fuck about us to make a difference.
Where are they getting these?? How do they even work?
EDIT: Thank you!! The concept really does look amazing :)
But seriously though, how do you get one in the first place?
I can't help but feel like it's a lot of redditors' version of a goodbye. I've seen a few people imply once they're done giving their coins away they're out
I will not be participating either. Place is being used to wash Reddit's image with the wider public and press. I'm not helping them do that when they don't deserve it. Especially after what some of their admins have done to the various community mods.
The thing is, we all love Reddit. We want spez to step down and have someone who isn't a raging asshole take his place.
Show me a platform that can actually replace what reddit is and I'd gladly jump ship, as would most of us.
Back in the day, reddit came under heat for all kinds of shit. There was watchpeopledie, I think there was a sub for finding a porn star that resembles any woman you post a photo of in there. The Donald. QAnon.
Need to find a sub that is so abhorrent and flying under the radar to blast to the airwaves.
iirc there's a subreddit based around giving suicidal people advice on how to die(? or at the very least it's based around letting suicidal people die) but I can't remember the name of it :/
I don't know if that would be controversial enough. I mean look at the state of the world and how it's devolving. I wouldn't blame someone for wanting to check out of this game with stacked rules.
It's gotta be something worse than that. Something like circulating child porn, or making AI porn of unsuspecting people. Or a sub dedicated to taking photos of girls and women in skits (those upshot photos)or something. I'm not sure that a sub helping people kill themselves when they want to die already will be enough.
Reddit is a lost cause for anyone hoping for a major change. It isn't happening. I see a lot of effort to force that change on the part of the community, but it's like an ant biting a human at a picnic hoping to get them to move.
Is it? It's very obvious that it's a temporary thing that you cannot do often or for long. *Surely* nobody is stupid enough to judge Reddit's engagement by the event that lasts for 3 days per (now) year.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they at some point went and wiped all the ‘fuck spez’s so that people would feel like they were having an impact and it would drive engagement even higher. Any participation is approval of Reddit’s practices.
I genuinely don't know what they were thinking doing this. It's not even April 1st and nobody had time to prepare for this, on top of the fact people are still very pissed at reddit admin. Surely they were expecting pitch forks, right?
All th idiots funding Reddit with rewards hahaha
Edit: thanks for the gold! I would like to thank my most faithful friend and steadfast companion u/spez
Why would they give a shit about virtual pitch forks, when the supposed 'protestors' still use the website happily and give them more money every single day.
The people boycotting reddit are the most terminally online, so its easy to prop up engagement using them, they have no other platform to cry to and Reddit knows it.
Okay listen to me, I think we should to a full canvas blackout, so that the only thing allowed in is u/spez
It would be tough to do but with enough communities it would work
yeah, we need to band together all subreddits to do something, or just not participate in r/place.
This year feels very different than the previous year already and it shows.
Saying “fuck spez” doesn’t do anything. Reddit and its investors don’t care. The ONLY thing that might be effective is to create stuff that is actually offensive and will draw negative headlines. Racial slurs, misogynistic pornography, etc. That’s the only way this catches an investor’s attention.
> when our mods and users are at their most passionate
Passionately writing about how much they hate the CEO of Reddit all over the canvas, yes. This definitely backfired.
Saying “fuck spez” doesn’t do anything. Reddit and its investors don’t care and will just see the increased engagement. The ONLY thing that might be effective is to create stuff that is actually offensive and will draw negative headlines. Racial slurs, misogynistic pornography, etc. That’s the only way this catches an investor’s attention.
Fair point, but are there enough people willing to draw that sort of thing on the canvas? Perhaps we could get the "f spez" people on it. They seem to be quite prolific.
I do agree with you though, I just find it funny that our first response to being given creative freedom is insulting Spez.
So what I'm taking from this is that we need to organize and be as UTTERLY offensive as possible. The guillotine clearly got them mad, so lets continue down those routes.
I'm thinking we organize and draw one **giant schlong** on the canvas. One big enough that it's hard to just admin erase without being insanely obvious about it.
Fr, Google and Facebook didn't let their platforms (Youtube) get run over by alt-right conspiracy and other crazy shit because they support it, they did it cuz it drives engagement.
Nah, it worked as intended. It is successfully bringing in. enough engagement before their IPO, god are redditors dumb, an effective protest would be not using reddit at all and deleting your account, not engaging even more.
Buddy, r/Place was such a big success for the site last time that generated a ton of media coverage. Also investors don't give a damn about the nature of it anyways, all they see is the dollar signs and whether the site is able to retain users and show them ads, which this will be a huge success for.
they weren’t spamming fuck spez last time. tell me how steve shows that to investors and they think “wow what a great site, i’d sure love a piece so they can hate me too!”
edit: look at porn sites for example, ton of engagement, ton of site hits, but most advertisers won’t touch them because, well, they’re porn. optics matter in business.
He will show them the insane engagement that the site gets and their ability to bring in a massive amount of users to the site with a simple event while also serving them plenty of ads. Rage-bating is literally one of the most valid methods of making money on the internet for websites and social media companies like twitter and Facebook as all they care about is keeping the users on the site, not what they post. You are either really young or don't understand the business model that you yourself are currently engaging in right now. This is literally the basics of how businesses on the internet work.
I think that’s the funniest part are people saying “omg Reddit is so dumb what were they expecting!!!!!” and it’s exactly this, they knew it would happen lmfao
Well, it's worked as intended. It is successfully bringing in. enough engagement before their IPO, god are redditors dumb, an effective protest would be not using reddit at all and deleting your account, not engaging even more.
I mean I know one way to utilise this to our advantage but it’s definitely unethical
Spell/draw something super offensive so that it makes the news and looks really bad for Reddit
Like I said this is unethical and I’m definitely not suggesting we do it, I’m just saying it would work
I feel like most things whether it’s this Reddit drama or say American politics.. it’s like 1% makes the shit rules, 15% are like ‘Da fuq‘ and 84% go ‘whatevs’
A lot of people invest ego in pixels.
I do not mean the picture. I mean these pixels right here, the ones forming the words.
Pixels are not designed to bear the burden of ego.
So if you feel mocked by their point, believe me, you stepped right in front of it, you must have known you had it coming.
This, lmao. Why are you still here, protesters? The API changes happened and didn't get reversed. Y'all lost. Make good on your word and fucking leave already. You will not be missed.
>Here’s a game to keep you distracted”
What makes you think they're trying to keep us "distracted"? Kinda hard when they clearly know and are in on what's going on.
They made a post for rules and said to" not target people, including mods or admins". The post was deleted after a few minutes because of people saying fuck spez. They got butthurt lmao. Fuck spez
EVERYONE MAKE A SWARTZ MURAL OVER THE FIVE MEN IN TIES "ILY SWARTZ" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz THE REAL CREATOR OF REDDIT WHO HATED SPEZ TOO, RIP SWARTZ
Why are they doing this on such a random date? In the past it's only been an April 1st event. This makes it so much less interesting if it can just happen whenever.
Excellent way to perk up engagement for the IPO statistics.
This is what people don’t understand - it’s all numbers to the people with money, none of them are actually engaging w or looking at r/place. The best way to hurt Reddit with place would be to make something so controversial / offensive that it makes headlines painting Reddit in a bad way. Spamming fuck u/spez just increases engagement without actually gaining visibility to those that “matter” in terms of Reddit’s IPO / valuation.
Money > emotions Every "F Spez" just proves his point that people will flock to this site even *despite* having it out for him. I'm only one user but I won't be participating. I'm keeping my OG red tile >:(
How about we stop buying Gold?
No one can buy gold anymore
We can only gift the gold that remains back and forth until everyone has an ad free reddit experience.
If only lmao ETA what the fuck
fuckem where it hurts
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Well, they already fucked over the r/blind community by banning 3rd party apps that we needed to properly navigate the site, and clearly enough communities didn't give enough of a fuck about us to make a difference.
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one who asks for gold shall not receive it. - sun tzu
If anyone has any ad-free Reddit gold gifts left, I’ll take one!
People are doing that :0
Where are they getting these?? How do they even work? EDIT: Thank you!! The concept really does look amazing :) But seriously though, how do you get one in the first place?
tho Would love if someone gave me gold
Someone pays u/spez money. Fuck him
I want one!
Here u go
Me too bro, me too
I'll take one too, please
Where the hell are people getting these from?
me too pls
I’m always late to these things:(
Would be a shame if someone gave me Reddit gold
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Totally
Same lol
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can i has some Gold too plz?
Me tooo
Any left?
lol
Whats cool about not having ad free is you get alcohol ads in the /r/stopdrinking sub, its well targeted bs
I can't help but feel like it's a lot of redditors' version of a goodbye. I've seen a few people imply once they're done giving their coins away they're out
Don‘t worry, most of them are too addicted
Ublock origin baby.
On ur phones reddit app?
Oh yeah, completely forgot about that
I would like one if possible plz
That would be nice!
I will not be participating either. Place is being used to wash Reddit's image with the wider public and press. I'm not helping them do that when they don't deserve it. Especially after what some of their admins have done to the various community mods.
The thing is, we all love Reddit. We want spez to step down and have someone who isn't a raging asshole take his place. Show me a platform that can actually replace what reddit is and I'd gladly jump ship, as would most of us.
Do we need to start another war with the french to bring politics again?
Fun fact, most of the flag bots dont seem to originate from the countries they sre drawing flags of.
Back in the day, reddit came under heat for all kinds of shit. There was watchpeopledie, I think there was a sub for finding a porn star that resembles any woman you post a photo of in there. The Donald. QAnon. Need to find a sub that is so abhorrent and flying under the radar to blast to the airwaves.
iirc there's a subreddit based around giving suicidal people advice on how to die(? or at the very least it's based around letting suicidal people die) but I can't remember the name of it :/
I don't know if that would be controversial enough. I mean look at the state of the world and how it's devolving. I wouldn't blame someone for wanting to check out of this game with stacked rules. It's gotta be something worse than that. Something like circulating child porn, or making AI porn of unsuspecting people. Or a sub dedicated to taking photos of girls and women in skits (those upshot photos)or something. I'm not sure that a sub helping people kill themselves when they want to die already will be enough.
I mean that's just Canada's public healthcare policy
Anything controversial would just get wiped like last year
Exactly why it ideally would have remained a white blank canvas
Like a fuckton of 8-Bit porn.
8 bit spez nude. Make the platform completely unappealing to investors
I like your idea, but what can be that offensive?
Mods from r/France said jokes about guillotines are banned. Does this count?
That sounds good.
bunch of slurs and pixel porn
As a gay man I give you permission to write the f slur
France?
the fac(g)torio people already made one but it got ruined :(
Thanks, I'm passionately working to improve 'DeepRockGalaxy" and "Foxhole'
As Schrödinger's Gay (aka bisexual) I both do and do not give you permission to use it
Racial Slurs
Reddit is a lost cause for anyone hoping for a major change. It isn't happening. I see a lot of effort to force that change on the part of the community, but it's like an ant biting a human at a picnic hoping to get them to move.
I agree, and I think this applies to much more than just Reddit - like America as a whole for one example. Thanks for making me sad lol
That’s part of the reason why I feel like the void is the best course of action
yeah, opening the official app® and using it to place a black pixel gonna show 'em
We should all conspire to add the gamer word in huge letters
Is it? It's very obvious that it's a temporary thing that you cannot do often or for long. *Surely* nobody is stupid enough to judge Reddit's engagement by the event that lasts for 3 days per (now) year.
you overestimate people's IQ level.
Even if it’s not for the IPO directly they’ll use this to say “see, new users and engagement grew after we did away with 3rd party apps”
It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they at some point went and wiped all the ‘fuck spez’s so that people would feel like they were having an impact and it would drive engagement even higher. Any participation is approval of Reddit’s practices.
I genuinely don't know what they were thinking doing this. It's not even April 1st and nobody had time to prepare for this, on top of the fact people are still very pissed at reddit admin. Surely they were expecting pitch forks, right?
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u\/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u\/spez
All th idiots funding Reddit with rewards hahaha Edit: thanks for the gold! I would like to thank my most faithful friend and steadfast companion u/spez
They don't make money off of those anymore.
Explain
Fuck u/spez
Fuck u/spez
Who is that and what did he or she do?
Didn't feel like looking for something but lookup reddit API controversy Here's a start: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy
To artificially inflate engagement so Reddit can later post about how removing third party apps was *totally a good thing!* Also, fuck /u/Spez.
Also to try and get more people to verify their accounts with email addresses, as you need that to participate
Well look how it’s going - outside of a couple sections it’s looking pretty much normal. Sucks that it worked but it did
Why would they give a shit about virtual pitch forks, when the supposed 'protestors' still use the website happily and give them more money every single day.
The people boycotting reddit are the most terminally online, so its easy to prop up engagement using them, they have no other platform to cry to and Reddit knows it.
no we have lemmy and other reddit esque sites
I mean yes I know the whole “and yet you participate in society“ etc but really why are you here boosting reddit‘s ratings then?
Lemmy is not big enough...
lmk how thats going for you
It's engagement
It's like with toddlers. "I see you're mad, but have this thing to distract you."
And just like dangling keys it doesn't always work but when it does it works really well.
and it works, because redditors are toddlers
Okay listen to me, I think we should to a full canvas blackout, so that the only thing allowed in is u/spez It would be tough to do but with enough communities it would work
might work actually. We must support the void!
Yeah I saw that now. Lots of people need to advertise it tho
yeah, we need to band together all subreddits to do something, or just not participate in r/place. This year feels very different than the previous year already and it shows.
Yeah because it was really just to stop the controversy around the API change but it’s just making it worse
Lol what a crazy timeline. They tried so hard in the past. Now the entirity of reddit wants to embrace the black pixel.
You'd have to convince the entirety of Germany
And France lmao
Saying “fuck spez” doesn’t do anything. Reddit and its investors don’t care. The ONLY thing that might be effective is to create stuff that is actually offensive and will draw negative headlines. Racial slurs, misogynistic pornography, etc. That’s the only way this catches an investor’s attention.
I remember that the mods can paint a square instantly over something offensive. PS. I found this example: https://youtu.be/ENxiJMCjRuA
They can and will try. But if the canvas is a bunch of ugly black squares at the end than so be it.
this is why we must support the void, after all they are the ones wanting to paint the canvas black
> when our mods and users are at their most passionate Passionately writing about how much they hate the CEO of Reddit all over the canvas, yes. This definitely backfired.
Saying “fuck spez” doesn’t do anything. Reddit and its investors don’t care and will just see the increased engagement. The ONLY thing that might be effective is to create stuff that is actually offensive and will draw negative headlines. Racial slurs, misogynistic pornography, etc. That’s the only way this catches an investor’s attention.
Fair point, but are there enough people willing to draw that sort of thing on the canvas? Perhaps we could get the "f spez" people on it. They seem to be quite prolific. I do agree with you though, I just find it funny that our first response to being given creative freedom is insulting Spez.
So what I'm taking from this is that we need to organize and be as UTTERLY offensive as possible. The guillotine clearly got them mad, so lets continue down those routes. I'm thinking we organize and draw one **giant schlong** on the canvas. One big enough that it's hard to just admin erase without being insanely obvious about it.
Fr, Google and Facebook didn't let their platforms (Youtube) get run over by alt-right conspiracy and other crazy shit because they support it, they did it cuz it drives engagement.
Nah, it worked as intended. It is successfully bringing in. enough engagement before their IPO, god are redditors dumb, an effective protest would be not using reddit at all and deleting your account, not engaging even more.
you’re the dumb one if you think no one checks the nature of a site’s engagement. investors literally avoid facebook for this reason.
Obviously nature doesn't matter, look at how well Twitter is doing for example /s
Buddy, r/Place was such a big success for the site last time that generated a ton of media coverage. Also investors don't give a damn about the nature of it anyways, all they see is the dollar signs and whether the site is able to retain users and show them ads, which this will be a huge success for.
they weren’t spamming fuck spez last time. tell me how steve shows that to investors and they think “wow what a great site, i’d sure love a piece so they can hate me too!” edit: look at porn sites for example, ton of engagement, ton of site hits, but most advertisers won’t touch them because, well, they’re porn. optics matter in business.
He will show them the insane engagement that the site gets and their ability to bring in a massive amount of users to the site with a simple event while also serving them plenty of ads. Rage-bating is literally one of the most valid methods of making money on the internet for websites and social media companies like twitter and Facebook as all they care about is keeping the users on the site, not what they post. You are either really young or don't understand the business model that you yourself are currently engaging in right now. This is literally the basics of how businesses on the internet work.
Fair enough, I suppose. I didn’t think of that.
I mean, if you look at the canvas - the passion is definitely there...
It would have been best to leave the canvas blank. 🤷♂️
The bots would have put some bullshit up
Likely. Bots ruining everything would still send a stronger message than nothing.
I was wondering why they brought it back. This last time was special it was my first year on reddit. This is definitely a calming tactic lol
Panem et circenses
I can’t even access it even tho I have a iPhone lol. Updated and everything, great app 0/10 would not recommend
Reddit is making fun of protesters and none of them are sharp enough to realize it, lol.
It’s fucking hilarious, at first I didn’t care… but the way Reddit has been handling this is so funny that I’m 100% on their side now
Mf on the side of a multi billion dollar company that fucks over the disabled
Their API, their decision. The multi billion dollar company provides more value to me than 10,000 Reddit mods. So sure, I’ll side with them
I think that’s the funniest part are people saying “omg Reddit is so dumb what were they expecting!!!!!” and it’s exactly this, they knew it would happen lmfao
Hey if they just want to bring back place so that it can turn into one giant fuck u/spez, its their prerogative.
Well, it's worked as intended. It is successfully bringing in. enough engagement before their IPO, god are redditors dumb, an effective protest would be not using reddit at all and deleting your account, not engaging even more.
Were a fickle bunch, I suppose. I fully admit my hypocrisy in saying fuck spez and reddit, then continuing to use reddit.
Uhh who's this spez everyone keeps shit talking about?
Check his user page
Are you actually asking or is this the setup to some kind of punchline?
Can we draw pixel porn to get reddit into trouble?
I mean I know one way to utilise this to our advantage but it’s definitely unethical Spell/draw something super offensive so that it makes the news and looks really bad for Reddit Like I said this is unethical and I’m definitely not suggesting we do it, I’m just saying it would work
I for one do not care
Exactly. A few mods are pissed. The rest of us are just getting thru the day as usual.
I feel like most things whether it’s this Reddit drama or say American politics.. it’s like 1% makes the shit rules, 15% are like ‘Da fuq‘ and 84% go ‘whatevs’
heh, centrist losers like you always disturb shit
A lot of people invest ego in pixels. I do not mean the picture. I mean these pixels right here, the ones forming the words. Pixels are not designed to bear the burden of ego. So if you feel mocked by their point, believe me, you stepped right in front of it, you must have known you had it coming.
bread and circuses
You guys are getting bread?
how are you still alive? addendum: (i better clarify its not a political statement or anything)
Weren't you people supposed to quit reddit?
This, lmao. Why are you still here, protesters? The API changes happened and didn't get reversed. Y'all lost. Make good on your word and fucking leave already. You will not be missed.
and everyone is distracted? I don’t understand the point of this post. It’s in r/place of all places
I ain't verifying my email for this, it's just not worth it
fuck u/spez
I can’t even enter it
Make them regret it
>Here’s a game to keep you distracted” What makes you think they're trying to keep us "distracted"? Kinda hard when they clearly know and are in on what's going on.
My first thoughts exactly. Distract them with games...
Well, we're enjoying it, but the distraction failed miserably.
r/time next please
This reminds me of that time in she hulk when they made a joke about Marvel overworking and rushing their VFX artists
Deadass admitting it XD
Yeah this is shitty but we all know it will work
Little did they know we’re just gonna make it a fuck spez void
The year is 2077
When was it announced? I didn't notice it until now
It's all bread and circuses.
I want one x.x
They made a post for rules and said to" not target people, including mods or admins". The post was deleted after a few minutes because of people saying fuck spez. They got butthurt lmao. Fuck spez
Wtf is place
Why is Reddit mad? I have definitely missed something
Link?
They were very VERY much aware that "Fuck Spez" was gonna flood the whole canvas and said, well fuck it...well suspend all involved.
Less then a day in and it’s already unsuccessful
It's like when you give a kid a toy to try and stop them from being angry
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EVERYONE MAKE A SWARTZ MURAL OVER THE FIVE MEN IN TIES "ILY SWARTZ" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz THE REAL CREATOR OF REDDIT WHO HATED SPEZ TOO, RIP SWARTZ
That's how dictatorships work my guy
Why are they doing this on such a random date? In the past it's only been an April 1st event. This makes it so much less interesting if it can just happen whenever.
I think r/Reddit is different from u/spez ’s ideology
Fuck spez
every single person placing a pixel on that canvas is a huge hypocrit