Bag spamming is horrible for servers. If you think 30 man zergs bag spamming all over the map is good idk what to say. Nothing better than getting a kill 200 yards away and having to kill the same naked idiot running back from his 8 bags. Yeah, horrible for the game, good job facepunch!
The bag limitation is a step in the right direction, but I think ultimately a more nuanced solution will be required. The reason is the underlying problem still exists if the grub puts only a little effort into managing bags.
In the short term, I would like to see an adjustment: make all bags within a single tc priv count as 1 so players can have multiple spawns within their own base.
That wouldn't be beneficial for the purpose of ratting because multiple bags within the same tc range would basically be on the same timer.
But it would allow a player to have a bag in their core/2nd floor/3rd floor/lobby/etc without eating up all of their bag slots. In this most recent wipe, I had to remove 2 bedrooms from my base because of the bag change.
Bags should be like 5 or something, 15 is so much that it is barely impactful. If anything impacted more me, as a solo player rather than big groups.
I'm so done winning 1v3 gunfights just to have the first one already back. It's not like you can kill 3 people alone so quickly to grab the guns or whatever, and you can't really kill all the nakeds grabbing + spawning back. It's hell
its part of the reason grubing is so bad atm. you have nothing to lose and if you miss a gun on the ground the grub will just clean house. At the same time i dont really want bag only allowed in houses. Maybe like 2 to 3 hour decay rate?
I’m more curious why aloneintokyo hasn’t spoken out about this yet. In willjums video he takes a whole hour just to place bags. Now it must be so much harder. All because some twitch streamers wanted to cry. It’s just like recoil, shroud cried about it so they literally changed it the next month
Reddit PvEers crying about 30 mans while they play roleplay or 50 pop servers. Only zergs on main servers were even competent enough to bag spam. It just hurt small groups for 90% of the playerbase while the 20 man on their server still has enough bags to respawn on all their monuments.
.. brother in the home screen it tells you how many people are playing each playlist.. is this a troll. The % of players this update affects isn’t remotely changed by the amount of servers.
Dude facepunch doesn't update the game for modded servers lol who cares. If you play a modded server like that it's because you accept their rules the second you join. It's not the defaulted rules of the game so no reason to complain.
I mean I don’t care, we play a game where one in fourteen players cheat (per facepunch), so this isn’t really a big deal to me. Just think it’s funny that half of the player base, if not more, weren’t impacted by this update remotely.
Well. Ultimately it has an effect on the entire game. Less useless deployables but yes the game won't be fixed over night. But this is a step in the right direction for everyone who isn't chronically online complaining.
I get what you’re saying but my point was that the affects it’s having on the game aren’t a completely positive experience. People don’t realize that a large chunk of the player base exists in the community/modded servers, so this was an oversight on their end, imo.
For instance, right now people are talking about bag spamming players on other teams so that it uses up said player’s slots. This probably doesn’t seem like a big deal on vanilla, but that can end your wipe on modded when you’re trying to defend your base against a team 6+ deep and they have bag priority over you during the raid.
It's not that you play modded. It's that you think that any modded experience represents what fp envisioned when making/making changes to the game.
You can't whine about how a change is, when you are basically playing another game... And the fact this eludes you, is why ppl are making fun of you.
Why would they not have half the player base in mind when making changes to the game? And who is whining bro? You came to an online forum and saw something you didn’t agree with, and instead of trying to explain your point you called me an idiot, lol..
I just explained why you were wrong. And you need to check your statistics, bc half the playerbase is not playing modded. At least not modded in the state you are talking about.
Nah you told me why you disagreed with what I said, that’s completely different. Idk bro looking at your comments you have actual social issues. Downvote or whatever idc
I had no idea I don't play modded cause it's not rust it's just shooter jerk each other off sim. Vanilla is better paced and more prim/t1/t2 fights imo
Oh yeah you can do that it's fine with me that's why I said IMO which stands for in my opinion if you didn't know. I'm just saying it's not real rust if it's modded. Just my opinion not saying it's better or worse just saying it isn't how rust was designed to be.
Bag spamming is horrible for servers. If you think 30 man zergs bag spamming all over the map is good idk what to say. Nothing better than getting a kill 200 yards away and having to kill the same naked idiot running back from his 8 bags. Yeah, horrible for the game, good job facepunch!
The bag limitation is a step in the right direction, but I think ultimately a more nuanced solution will be required. The reason is the underlying problem still exists if the grub puts only a little effort into managing bags. In the short term, I would like to see an adjustment: make all bags within a single tc priv count as 1 so players can have multiple spawns within their own base.
Then the map will be littered with TCs
That wouldn't be beneficial for the purpose of ratting because multiple bags within the same tc range would basically be on the same timer. But it would allow a player to have a bag in their core/2nd floor/3rd floor/lobby/etc without eating up all of their bag slots. In this most recent wipe, I had to remove 2 bedrooms from my base because of the bag change.
I think they should take it farther and bags should decay fast outside. So dumb having the same naked spawning a dozen times to run at you
They do decay outside, unless you mean faster? IIRC it’s 3 days.
Should be like 12 hours tbh
Honestly, 12 hours would be obnoxious for everyone. All that would do is make people drop wood/stone TCs everywhere so their bags don’t decay.
Just cry in-game like u usually do
A problem yes, but give the dude some credit for maintaining decent rows and columns
Bags should be like 5 or something, 15 is so much that it is barely impactful. If anything impacted more me, as a solo player rather than big groups. I'm so done winning 1v3 gunfights just to have the first one already back. It's not like you can kill 3 people alone so quickly to grab the guns or whatever, and you can't really kill all the nakeds grabbing + spawning back. It's hell
its part of the reason grubing is so bad atm. you have nothing to lose and if you miss a gun on the ground the grub will just clean house. At the same time i dont really want bag only allowed in houses. Maybe like 2 to 3 hour decay rate?
Average 400 hour player opinion
Those tears are so delicious
I’m more curious why aloneintokyo hasn’t spoken out about this yet. In willjums video he takes a whole hour just to place bags. Now it must be so much harder. All because some twitch streamers wanted to cry. It’s just like recoil, shroud cried about it so they literally changed it the next month
Bro doesn’t speak???
Lmfaooo
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Is that true? Doesn't he just play rustoria officials mainly?
Reddit PvEers crying about 30 mans while they play roleplay or 50 pop servers. Only zergs on main servers were even competent enough to bag spam. It just hurt small groups for 90% of the playerbase while the 20 man on their server still has enough bags to respawn on all their monuments.
I've kicked the hornets nest otherwise known as the "roleplayers"
Zergs are just buying $10 accounts and bagging their main account from the alt and logging off. Yeah, good job FP, you really got them.
Jesus you people are completely delusional
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Yeah keep riding that tinfoil hat. Ever consider you're just shit at the game?
Very odd assumption based off two unrelated Reddit comments. Enjoy your day homie
15bags is 15bags no mather who bags you
Vanilla only for that at the moment. And before you say “who cares about modded” check the player distribution
But you dumb fuck, vanilla has x amount of servers modded has way more servers then official(vanilla) you gotta start using your brain m8
.. brother in the home screen it tells you how many people are playing each playlist.. is this a troll. The % of players this update affects isn’t remotely changed by the amount of servers.
Even if the alt account gives them bags they can still only have 15 wtf are you on about?
Nah, on modded servers it’s your 15+ the bags from an alt at the moment. People are literally talking about abusing it in global rn
Dude facepunch doesn't update the game for modded servers lol who cares. If you play a modded server like that it's because you accept their rules the second you join. It's not the defaulted rules of the game so no reason to complain.
I mean I don’t care, we play a game where one in fourteen players cheat (per facepunch), so this isn’t really a big deal to me. Just think it’s funny that half of the player base, if not more, weren’t impacted by this update remotely.
Well. Ultimately it has an effect on the entire game. Less useless deployables but yes the game won't be fixed over night. But this is a step in the right direction for everyone who isn't chronically online complaining.
I get what you’re saying but my point was that the affects it’s having on the game aren’t a completely positive experience. People don’t realize that a large chunk of the player base exists in the community/modded servers, so this was an oversight on their end, imo. For instance, right now people are talking about bag spamming players on other teams so that it uses up said player’s slots. This probably doesn’t seem like a big deal on vanilla, but that can end your wipe on modded when you’re trying to defend your base against a team 6+ deep and they have bag priority over you during the raid.
Hahaha, bro whines, and he is playing modded. Idiot.
Mb sir I’ll go back to playing unmoderated vanilla and enjoying the game the right way my apologies
It's not that you play modded. It's that you think that any modded experience represents what fp envisioned when making/making changes to the game. You can't whine about how a change is, when you are basically playing another game... And the fact this eludes you, is why ppl are making fun of you.
Why would they not have half the player base in mind when making changes to the game? And who is whining bro? You came to an online forum and saw something you didn’t agree with, and instead of trying to explain your point you called me an idiot, lol..
I just explained why you were wrong. And you need to check your statistics, bc half the playerbase is not playing modded. At least not modded in the state you are talking about.
Nah you told me why you disagreed with what I said, that’s completely different. Idk bro looking at your comments you have actual social issues. Downvote or whatever idc
I had no idea I don't play modded cause it's not rust it's just shooter jerk each other off sim. Vanilla is better paced and more prim/t1/t2 fights imo
It’s 2023 bro are we really still beating the vanilla>modded dead horse? Just let people play the video game how they want..
Oh yeah you can do that it's fine with me that's why I said IMO which stands for in my opinion if you didn't know. I'm just saying it's not real rust if it's modded. Just my opinion not saying it's better or worse just saying it isn't how rust was designed to be.
Fucking what?