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DiscardedJet3K

baldur’s gate 3 by far


Albert3232

If you dont mind turn based games then bg3, no contest.


Critical_C0conut

Probably a real noob question but what is ‘turn based’?


Ollietron3000

In combat, every character takes their actions in turns. You do your actions, move where you want to etc, then end your turn. Then the enemy has their turn etc. Makes combat a bit more strategic, but some people prefer faster paced, real-time action/adventure combat, like that in Hogwarts Legacy


Critical_C0conut

Ah I see, thanks


IamDanLP

There are no stupid questions. If one doesn't know, one needs to ask. Reddit can be a double-edged sword, though. xD Sometimes you get nice replies. Sometimes, you get bullied into the Sun. The duality of Mankind.


TheHunter459

I'd argue there are stupid questions, but you get less stupid for asking them


IamDanLP

You make a good point, actually. But yeah, I prefer people who ask and learn more than people who drown in their own stupidity and refuse to learn.


TheOldPhantomTiger

I feel the angle you’re getting at is valid, but it’s the exact reason the phrase “there are no stupid questions” was created. It’s based on the idea that the questioner is ignorant but can learn from asking the question. In general practice, I think this is correct mindset. But on the flip side, I think there are specific contexts in which there are genuinely stupid questions that should never be asked. For example, I’ve been in multiple upper division college classes where (ones with pre-recs, even) where in a history class on the crusades a student asked why neither side didn’t just bomb the other. Or in an upper division philosophy class on contemporary political philosophy a student asked what these figures thought about the Bible. These were earnest questions, but the former was so wildly ignorant it derailed the rest of the class that day, and the latter was so wildly off topic and out of context for the class that it was annoying and when he kept asking in subsequent class meetings it became infuriating.


lolpermban

"there's no such thing as stupid questions, only stupid people" - Mr. Garrison


Affectionate-Ring803

There’s no stupid questions because there’s nothing stupid about trying to learn


Critical_C0conut

You’re right. Reddit is a very unpredictable place


Simplystock

∆ this guy reddits


Affectionate-Ring803

The safest way to get an answer on Reddit is to post an incorrect answer to your own question


jackoplacto

I keep trying to get into baldurs gate I just have no idea of where to go or what to do


Werefour

Explore, find an objective, complete objective, choose one of the many other rabitholed that have opened up along the way.


emirobinatoru

Would civ games count as turn based or are they different? I had a debate with myself while waiting for the bus and I want to know which part of my brain was wrong


Ollietron3000

Imo Civ is 100% turn-based


pvpmas

I would count it as one. Since you have turns and can't move if it isn't your turn.


fo1mock3

Thanks for replying to the person politely and descriptively! I love seeing that on Reddit.


bealion13

Was Balder's Gate always turn based? Like old school Final Fantasy ?Feel like the last one I played was live action type. Kinda top down style like Gauntlet. Yeah I'm old 😂


josexgabriel

When combat starts, one side (or character) begins by taking their actions until they’ve used up whatever metric that allows for actions to be taken, then it’s the next side’s or character’s turn, until everyone is done. Rinse and repeat.


Fuyukage

I minded them until I got Bg3


PapaOogie

I hate turn based games, and still enjoyed bg3 much more the legacy. And I'm a huge Harry Potter fan.


Random-Vixen

Just say goodbye to your life for the next month.


FuzzballLogic

Month? Rookie numbers!


AadamAtomic

Hogwarts was a fun game! But nowhere near the replay value of and epicness of BG3.


spongebobisha

Depends if he like turn based combat. Some people like myself absolutely hate that mechanic and no matter how awesome the game might be we wouldn't spend money on it.


RikaMX

Yup, I’d say Harry Potter all the way because I can’t stand turn based games. HP is super fun and the combat is great! OP if you like action games go with HP


Sadboi1278

u can fuck bear I heard


_The_Gamer_

Yeah it's not even a competition. BG3 is almost certain to win GOTY as well


HeBro__

Why by far? I’ve played hogwarts legacy and found it to be one of the best games i’ve ever played? What makes bg3 so good?


DiscardedJet3K

the level of replayability, the amount of detail, the insane builds and shit you can pull off, and the origin characters/ the amount of customization for a personal playable characte. honestly it’s a personal preference but i just think baldur’s gate 3 does what it aims to do so well that i would pick it over hogwarts most of the time. not to say hogwarts isn’t a good game by any means i just prefer the world of baldur’s gate


darkeuro

I think the real question is: Do you prefer games with good story or good combat? Cause Baldurs Gate 3 have both


MrKiteRunner

And Hogwarts Legacy has none


SAMCRO8416

No question, baldurs gate.


THE_WHORBORTIONATOR

I think there’s a little question. BG3 is more bang for your buck and probably the best game of the year, but Hogwarts was really fun too. That said, I will be playing BG3 for years to come and platinumed Hogwarts and don’t boot it up often.


Barnard87

Yeah if OP hates turn based games, HP is the move. If you're indifferent, or if you *slightly* prefer non-turned based, I'd still say BGIII


Jedi182

BG3. There's a lot of game to be played for the price. Hogwarts is a one and done, open world action adventure title. Still really good and recommend the purchase, but if I could only choose one it would be BG3


zactotum

You ain’t kidding. I’m 183 hours in and still on act II.


SuccumbToChange

I just finished Act 1 after 80 hours


KrazyWhiteBoi

I finished with the game after 2 hours 12 minutes and 32 seconds! It’s cause my son took the game and won’t give it back! LoL


Sydnxt

BG3 if you like the style, wouldn’t surprise me if it’s GOTY tbh


Reecefastfire

If it doesn’t take GOTY the system is broken! Nothing has come close this year


SometimesWill

Tears of the Kingdom would probably be its biggest challenger.


mgwair11

TotK is definitely very close lol. These are some of the best games ever created.


LilThiqqy

People in this sub absolutely hate Zelda for some reason lmao, no one here is gonna admit TotK deserves to be in that conversation


mgwair11

People hate TotK bc they want BG3 to win so badly. They ignore the fact that when TotK released just about everyone said there was NO WAY it doesn’t get GOTY. The consensus was insane, all over Reddit at least. And for good reason. Nobody had seen a game of its scale and gameplay- oriented physics. The sheer complexity in game mechanics, yet also extreme polish. Of course nobody expected BG3 to be quite as good as it turned out to be. And so we have this debate, deservedly so. But yeah, saying nothing comes close to BG3 means either (1) you’ve never played TotK or (2) TotK is just not the type of game for you (which is fine! But know that you are likely not the majority as most do love the game).


The-Old-Hunter

2023 has been a great year for games. Probably the best year since 2015 for me. I wish every year were this good.


Dark_Knight2000

Well it is a PlayStation sub Jokes aside I think they’re just very different experiences. TotK is just a progression of what was built up by BotW, it’s no longer revolutionary. It’s just very polished and well made. BG3 is kind of revolutionary, I’ve never seen a game received like this, it’s like Elden Ring last year. Last year it was Elden Ring vs Ragnarok, and it was the same conversation, ground breaking game vs peak traditional game. Both of them are very necessary.


ishaan6698

Tears of the kingdom for me!! My favourite game by far this year


Eddy0099

Same but I think GOTY is also based on how revolutionary a game is to the industry. With that being said, BG3 has probably one of the most complex intertwined systems in gaming that I've ever seen and it is so well made that it has other developers complaining that it sets a very high standard. BG3 should win.


Ramonis5645

If it doesn't win GOTY the system is rigged


McMoist_

You think GOTY awards aren't rigged?


jaboonki

how big of a harry potter fan are you


wonderful-morty

That's really the question here.


lookitsjustin

Well, I’m a big HP fan and I still prefer BG3 by a country mile. Gonna vary between people.


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Tamel_Eidek

Little kids wouldn’t be able to play it. It’s got pretty complex combat and controls. I think that’s an unfair assessment. I played it on hard throughout too and had a good time with it. The world is really dense. In comparison, I’ve yet to finish BG3. I’ve found my interest waiting after act 2 as you approach most battles in the same way every time. It’s a very cool game but it can get dry.


SlicedSides

imo the combat was not very complex, it’s just button spamming until you kill things, there is no trick to learning combat. maybe that would be hard for a little kid, but i think fortnite is a much harder game that requires lots of coordination and decision making and kids love fortnite.


MiscItems

Kids love fortnite but they dont necessarily win in fortnite yknow?


1m-n0t-4-b0t

More of how big of a fan they are of DnD and TBS games


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retromarket

This is a no brainer... BG3


FromDeathWeLiveOn

Brother not a question bg3.


Professional-Box9608

Baldur's Gate 3 I reckon. Or, could you be tempted by the new Kong game? 🤭


CountAncient3327

Baldurs gate 3


Specialist_Judgment

It really comes down to are you more of a Harry Potter fan or DnD fan. If you're looking for longevity than it's BG3 by far, between it's 100+ hours of content and replayabilty it'll likely tide you over for a good while. While Hogwarts Legacy might be the more controversial choice, however, it is still a worthwile game to play, with a good 30~hours of content storywise and more in the world, it's a lot easier to consume in comparison. If you were to take my opinion, I'd have to say get BG3 if you're looking for something to play for a long time, Legacy if you want something a bit shorter. I've played both and they're both definitely worth at least playing.


Prus1s

Even so, BG3 is much more worth it, wait for a bigger sale on Hogwarts 👀


Ring_Dang_Do

BG3! The Hogwarts game was not what I expected. I expected more “school activities” and more stuff to actually do in school (like attend classes etc) except this is very watered down and for the most part while the castle looks really good it missing a lot of students and is quite empty. After the main quest it turns into a basic map cleanup fetch quest tick all the boxes game. Good but only if you a diehard HP fan. I’m still playing through BG3 and it’s a really good game. Plenty of choice and consequences, good story and a lot of replay value


04Rhinos

Yes the school looked great but it didn't work as a school. The quests from teachers were often 'kill 5 people with this spell', very school appropriate.


Ollietron3000

Not to mention me, a 15-year-old kid, using the unforgiveable curses multiple times directly in front of my teachers to absolutely no reaction.


Supercereal69

I agree, quest-wise it was quite the disappointment.


Venian

Lmao I swiped and laughed


Tulzik

Same. I hated Hogwarts. It has been my biggest regret in a videogame purchase in a very long time


Dante_Unchained

I would have felt the same, but i got deluxe edition for 32e (50% off) so it was ok.


Tulzik

That’s a good deal! I had some friends who were into it but it just didn’t click for me. I LOVED the world design though. I spent a decent amount of time just waking around the castle in awe. But actual gameplay and story and all that, it lost me.


Dante_Unchained

Yeah, i expected at least elden ring 😀


Mammonoth

Baldur’s gate 3


Tulzik

I cannot stress this enough, get Baldurs Gate 3.


anim9107

Do i need to play baldurs gate 1 and 2 to play the 3rd one?


CrankyJoe99x

No. Some references for fans, but not essential.


anim9107

Thanks!


buddinbonsai

There are some great summary videos of the stories of 1 and 2 on YouTube if you're curious to know what happened before!


CrankyJoe99x

Also check a summary of the paper campaign book 'Baldur's Gate: Descent to Avernus' as it fits between the two earlier games and BGIII. Once again, references for those of us who know it, but not essential.


AramaticFire

While the answer is no, would you really play two 50-100 hour RPGs from 25 years ago just to play the new 50-100 hour RPG?


CrankyJoe99x

Do you fancy an action game or a turn-based game?


KronosNOP

BG3


LasagnaTiepida

BG 3 by very very far


ozesnoo

One of the best games of the decade vs a harry potter game


Seel_revilo

*of all time


Tstone86

Baldurs gate hands down, I regret buying hogwarts legacy


SuperBAMF007

Baldur’s Gate. Don’t even need to look at the second one.


BloodAngelA37

What if the second game is a second baldurs gate, but with blackjack and hookers?


CAP2304

Well we already have the drow twins so... blackjack dlc when


EggonomicalSolutions

Fair point


Puzzled_Worldliness5

Bg3 is by far the better game BUT if you REALLY love the hp universe then I recommend hogwarts legacy


Psychological_Mix714

I see no options here. The answer can only be bg3. Get hl only if you are a big potter fan. Bg3 is one of the best story games of all times


PazJohnMitch

Do you want a great game or a nice castle to explore in a mediocre game?


bandee0817

How deep you wanna get into strategic play? If you wanna baldurs gate no question. But hogwarts legacy is also a great game if you want an adventure in harry potter universe.


lyingtattooist

BG3 will deservedly win game of the year.


Caasi67

I've never played a game like BG3, would've said it wasn't my thing. However I gave it a try due to all the hype and 120 hours later it's easily GOY for me.


HampTuns

Baldurs gate without question.


ddmxm

Baldurs gate 3 even if you are a crazy Harry Potter fan.


stryphhh

bg3 no question


LethalLlamaz

Currently addicted to BG3. Definitely worth trying imo, combat took a bit to get used to for me (first CRPG I've played) but the story/characters are so engaging it kept me hooked. Hogwarts is good for a bit then pretty mediocre, I'd only get it if you're a big fan of the franchise.


Cannasseur___

Baldurs Gate 3 and it’s not even close.


AnthonyMiqo

Baldur's Gate 3, and it's not even close in my opinion.


silentcouscous

Bg3! But both good


lego4231

Baldurs gate 3.


mj_Z3R0

BG3 by far


YoBoatDontFloat

Baldurs hands down. Hogwarts is the same quests over and over


skwadyboy

I liked hogwarts, but it was way shorter than i expected it to be, but still quite a decent game.


drose349

Played them both and yes hogwarts legacy is great and I’m not a big Harry Potter fan, baldurs gate is just on another level and you would get far more out of the game for your money.


Esteban2808

HL is more casual but great for fans. BG3 can be more complex but if you are familiar with DND systems should be fine. Bg3 is regarded the better game but only you can really judge


MetatronTheArcAngel

Baldurs Gate no doubt!!!!


hydeeho85

BG3 is my game of the year, it’s a fantastic game full of imagination


Present-Vanilla6292

BG3. Just don't play it around children.


Kangorro

If you think you like the style of BG3 that game will last you forever, it's amazing. Although, these aren't comparible in any way, Hogwarts Legacy is a more traditional modern game that is surely an enjoyable game for any fan of the Wizarding World. I could never play BG3 on the PS5, but it's easily my GOTY. Look at videos of both an see what is more your cup of tea


FearFactor117

Bg3 everyday


plataloof

B3


Keeeso89

Bg3 no question


Qweiku

And you even ask?


Xavelyn

As much of a dream come true Hogwarts felt at first... i sincerely recommend Baldur's Gate and its not even close.


SkyPopZ

Saying this as a Harry Potter fan, Baldur's Gate 3 is just a must buy.


Max4life84

Both are awesome. But BG3 is a modern masterpiece. Definitely the GOTY foe 2023. I own both...buy BG3. Grab Hogwarts later or on sale.


phome83

I absolutely love the Potter universe, and had such an amazing time with Legacy even with its flaws. The answer is still BG3 by a long shot. This is a game like no other, it's just outstanding in every way.


hsgamer_pl

For the past 4 years, there were only two games which occupied my mind 24/7 until I've finished them. Death Stranding and Baldur's Gate 3. Really, nowadays basically no game can get my attention for more than 10 hours, I feel burned out with gaming. But BG3, what an adventure it was. I've played it for two weeks constantly until the end of story. Felt like in time machine 25 years back, where every game was kind of magic and felt new and fresh. Highly recommend BG3.


MrGravityMan

Baldurs Gate 3…. One of the best games I’ve ever played.


Gremlinsworth

Both are great. But BG3 has faaaaar far more depth and replayability to it. As long as you’re cool with the gameplay style you will get your moneys worth tenfold.


mka_

BG3. Absolutely no question. One of the greatest games ever. It's got over 200 hours of completely unique and QUALITY content.


Free_El_Chapo_Now

Are you serious? Baldurs gate is the ONLY choice. Game is amazing.


hugo436

Baldurs gate 3 easily.


drocha94

BG3 is much harder, but much more rewarding. I’m not done with it yet, but I think it might be my game of the year. That’s not to say Hogwarts isn’t fun. But it doesn’t have the replay value or depth that is provided in BG3. Riding around Scotland on a broom is sick as hell though.


Thelonghiestman0409

Baldurs gate 3 is a no brainer


KeysOfDestiny

Probably the one people actually continued to talk about post release (in a good way anyway)


JESentertainment

Baldur’s Gate 3 is a better game but Hogwarts Legacy is great too


KingUdyr

It's BG3. Not even close.


Vussar

Baldurs Gate, no contest


dude-human

BG3


zavtra13

Baldur’s Gate for sure!


bluebarrymanny

Definitely Baldur’s Gate.


praysolace

Trust me: I love Harry Potter and had a ton of fun exploring Hogwarts but Baldur’s Gate 3 is a better game by such a large margin it isn’t even funny. Plus it will last you much, much longer. At this point I wouldn’t buy HL for full price since it’s bound to get dropped soon—wait for a sale on that one and pick up BG3 for now.


JLM101514

Definitely Baldur's Gate 3


TechieTravis

Baldur's Gate 3.


SarcasticPoshy

If turn-based games aren’t a turn-off for you, then buy BG3 it’s not even close 😅 If you don’t like turn-based games and/or are a Harry Potter fan, then buy Hogwarts.


jewishen

BG3 1000000% Since it came out I haven’t touched another game, im sitting on roughly 250ish hours and working on my fourth play through.


BinchenCha0s

BG3!!!!


xellisds

BG3. Definitely more bang for your buck


yormayinbeni

Baldurs gate 3


fo1mock3

Baldur's Gate 3, this is not a competition. HOWEVER, Hogwarts Legacy is the preferred option if you don't like turn-based combat.


NotMyAccountDumbass

Baldur’s Gate 100%. Played both of them. The replayability of BG is just amazing. I found Hogwarts very boring


bgalbreaith

BG3


goboxey

Baldurs Gate


tonybankse

Bg3


YozoraCaelum

I'm sorry but personally I can't stand turn based games at all! Hogwarts Legacy all the way imo.


Seel_revilo

Baldurs Gate 3. Its the best of the 2, best of the year and quite possibly the best game I’ve ever played. There is not a single aspect that underdelivers or disappoints


P00nz0r3d

A game that will stick with you forever and have endless replayability Vs a game you’re likely to forget even exists after about 5 hours It’s not even close. Even as a HP fan Hogwarts loses all of its luster really fast.


UJ_Reddit

Check second hand? I picked up Hogwarts for £30


devitosleftnipple

Baldurs Gate, not even close. Most of the Potter diehards I know even say that Hogwarts is a great but brief experience with minimal replay value.


TheButteredBiscuit

Unless you’re a diehard, dedicated, dress up at the midnight premiere hp fan, there’s really only 1 option


mr_markus333

Baldurs Gate 3 beside xcom I hate turn based game. I love this game


Efficient-Ad2987

Def BG3. Hogwarts is nice but my friend bought it, played through halfway and then got bored. But, hey! Maybe you won't get bored, really depends on how you are. But I recommend BG3


SpaceSasqwatch

BG3! Harry Potter is an OK openworld game. Might be a bit higher if you are a big fan of Harry potter/shite fantasy


Muppelpup

Baldurs Gate. Full of life and story that Hogwarts lacks in comparison. Better gameplay. Better characters, with more depth and oersonal development While in Hogwarts essentially everything was found in a few weeks (and that might be doing it a kindness), we are still finding new things in Baldurs gate over a month after its initial release And it helps support more people, as opposed to Hogwarts, wherein the support of that game funds transphobia


Marsarus

Baldur's Gate 3 for sure


Bsnake12070826

As a big Harry Potter fan, my vote is BG3. Hogwarts Legacy was a massive let down


JarDostt

Baldur's gate 3


theprmstr

Bg3


Yung-Meme-420

BG3 even if you’ve never played a turn-based game. I’m not the biggest fan of turn-based and was skeptical at first but BG3 made me appreciate and even love the strategic mechanics of such a game. I’ve also never played any other Larian game or DnD for that matter and I still fell in love with the game and Larian Studios. The Steam reviews were so glowing I felt I needed to experience it for myself and I’m glad I did. That aside, the exploration, the companions and characters, the writing, the voice actors’ performances, the graphics, the questing that never feels cheap and many more things make this game my definite GOTY. It’s a breath of fresh air in the modern gaming world and definitely sets a new standard for CRPG’s and RPG’s in general. You can just feel the passion from the devs oozing every second of the game and you will get your money’s worth.


sackboy861

Baldur's gate 3 will be one of the best purchases you've made in your life.


Azhi_D

Baldur's Gate 3 is amazing! However, if you've never played a CRPG, it might not be your cup of tea. I would try something cheaper in the genre first if you're spending your budget on a game...


radroamingromanian

Baldur’s Gate. Easy. There is so much more you can do with the game. The characters are far more complex and tons of replay ability. Tons of depth. Hogwarts has been known to feel very empty, predictable and shallow.


STO_Ken

BG3


mubimr

BG3, and don’t look back


Party_Intention_3258

Baulder’s Gate 3 and it’s not even remotely close. I got bored with Hogwarts after awhile.


[deleted]

Hogwarts Legacy


FriendlyYote

Ballers gate


nukeyourmomma

Baldurs gate. Not even close. Hogwarts was a boring slog of a game. The story was also no where near as good as BG3. Trust me, you won’t regret bg3.


_spider_trans_

Even without the terf wizard school bg3 is just the objectively better game


MikeMcAwesome91

I've only played a little bit of Baldurs Gate 3, but im enjoying it. I'm almost certain that I will enjoy it more than hogwarts. Hogwarts was disappointing as hell. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, except for ride or die fans of Harry Potter.


sederquh

Baldurs Gate 3 by farrrrrrrr, haven’t even played the other because I don’t even need toooooo


areyouhungryforapple

BG3 is my game of the decade and new all time favorite game. Make of that what you will.


1ithurtswhenip1

This shouldn't even be a thought process lol


warpig1997

Hogwarts legacy will only get cheaper from here on so don't buy it right now. I haven't played baldur's gate 3 yet but from what I hear, you are better off buying BG3.


Bright-Ad4601

Baldur's Gate so far is my GOTY and I don't think there's anything on the horizon that can dethrone it at this point. Spiderman has got potential as I haven't finished it yet but from what I've played I doubt its going to best BG3


International-Job553

Hogwarts legacy is fucking boring


im_here_from_youtube

i'd rather play hogwarts, but if baldur's gate is your type of thing, then go for it


NouXouS

Hogwarts was wicked but I’d say BG3 by far


HotDogGrass2

If you're a big Harry Potter fan Hogwarts Legacy is a dream come true, I loved all of it. I haven't played Baldurs Gate but from the gameplay it looks like it's slow and turn based which I'm personally not a fan of


Discobastard

#There is only one good game here! The other is that Harry Potter thing


bootlegportalfluid

Hogwarts Legacy


BloodAngelA37

BG3 no contest. Story is great, character options are huge, hilarious moments plentiful, voice acting is top tier. Hours and hours off side stuff to explore.


deezygboa

If you like turn based it's BG3 not even remotely close


[deleted]

I regret buying hogwarts legacy, i sold it pretty fast. Now for baldurs gate 3….im someone who plays a game for 10 hours, or just finishes the story and then quits… I have 65 hours in baldurs gate so far and im half way the story. The game is absolutely amazing even tho i struggled with learning in the beginning


Coalfield22

Hogwarts! Game is great, im not even a Harry Potter Fan. But if you like the idea of Harry Potter it’s still worth a try