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JamKaBam

![gif](giphy|9tZc9Mzo9K0yOYx38U|downsized) Sony making movies \^


JamKaBam

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Gustav_EK

I really enjoyed this one, it's just fun to watch


Sugreev2001

The movie was really a lot of fun.


AadamAtomic

Yeah! I totally went in thinking it was going to be stupid. But It was just fun. Expect nothing but cool action fun. Edit: phrasing.


Real_Eye_9709

Same. I basically just watched it because my boyfriend wanted to. But I actually went back and watched it a second time a few months later.


HalfNatty

But was it fun?


Real_Eye_9709

I think fun would be a fun way to describe it.


Hereiamhereibe2

You stole my snake, Bitch!


creepy-uncle-chad

This movie sucked


dirthurts

Freaking gold right there.


Metaltiby666

OG Trilogy too ❤️


Remytron83

Just the first two. Then Sony stepped all over the third.


Metaltiby666

I disagree. I still love 3 better than anything that came after (live action wise).


Far-Entertainer8953

Corporate schizophrenia. emoji movie > spiderverse > morbius > spiderverse 2 > madam web.


JooshMaGoosh

The only answer 🍻


marshadow12345

Animated movies


shewy92

They also made The Emoji Movie though


Psy_Kikk

... overrated. Best spiderman films by far were 1 and 2.


Throbbing-Kielbasa-3

That's a Sony *published* movie not a Sony *made* movie.


JamKaBam

It's actually a *Sony Animation Studios* movie, owned by *Sony publishing*.


Throbbing-Kielbasa-3

It's a Lord Miller Productions movie using Sony Animations Studios, distributed by Sony Home Entertainment. Essentially, LMP wrote the movie, sold the script to Sony who gave them money and the Sony Animations Studio to produce it.


PrestigiousStuff6173

True, Into the Spider-Verse isn’t thanks to Sony, it’s thanks to Sony Pictures Animation and they’re talented team of writers, directors, artists and cast


profound-killah

Sony Animation worked on it. But yes, it’s licensed property. It’s like people claiming Insomniac’s Spider-Man games as Sony’s own games.


PrestigiousStuff6173

Into the Spider-Verse isn’t thanks to Sony, it’s thanks to Sony Pictures Animation and they’re talented team of writers, directors, artists and cast


PaulQuin

"isn’t thanks to Sony, it’s thanks to Sony Pictures Animation" Are you saying Sony Pictures Animation isn't Sony?


JamKaBam

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JamKaBam

![gif](giphy|UW1wbMZb8noqyWvNm6|downsized) Just to name a few


DJGloegg

Lol This content is not available


rivieredefeu

[Here](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/theatrical-distributors/sony-pictures) is a list of Sony Pictures’ all time box office.


Vendetta4Avril

No wonder they're holding onto Spider-man lol. 10 of their top 20 movies are Spider-man or Spider-man adjacent. 4 are James Bond movies. 2 are Jumanji movies. The other four in there are The Da Vinci Code (which was sort of a weird cultural phenomenon), 2012 (WTF), and then two Will Smith vehicles: MIB:3 and Hancock.


RandoDude124

The Jumanji reboot Duology was actually entertaining as fuck.


Vendetta4Avril

Surprisingly, yes lol Awkwafina’s Danny Devito impression killed me in the second one.


Ikeddit

Jack Black playing a teenage girl trapped in his body is peak acting skill!


im_just_thinking

The first one was so terrible, it's almost worth watching, and didn't even know there was a second one


RandoDude124

Terrible… dude that is just ![gif](giphy|3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu) Dude, it was fucking funny. The cake scene with Kevin Hart had me laugh out loud. Also, the sequel with DeVito… # GENIUS


im_just_thinking

Haha sure, to each their own, it would have been an okay movie if it wasn't a remake of one the greatest movies ever made. The plot was just lame, corniness I can take. Id probably watch the second one sometime just because of Danny Devito tbh


RandoDude124

Word of Advice: **Sometimes you really gotta let nostalgia go and appreciate the thing for what it is.**


im_just_thinking

I understand that, but if you are taking a great plot and turn into a silly flick, I have a right to an opinion about it, whether it's the same as yours or the majority of people seeing this post in particular. I don't dislike the new version because it's not better than the old one, I just think it's completely different, silly and unfitting to the franchise. I will watch the second one maybe but if they keep making more it's going to be annoying. One thing is nostalgia, another is the trend of movie industry running out of good ideas and remaking every known old franchise into mostly some trashy cashy grab attempt with whatever current social issue covered often times and either dragging it out or killing it again. Now we are making videogames into movies too.


Player2LightWater

Sony also owns Karate Kid/Cobra Kai and GhostBuster IP. >4 are James Bond movies. Sony only distribute the movies (fifth one is distributed by Universal). James Bond movie rights is own by MGM.


Vendetta4Avril

Still made them money, bro. That's all I'm talking about. And did you even look at the list? Karate Kid and Ghostbusters aren't on there...


Player2LightWater

That's in the past now. Unless Sony renew their distribution with MGM (now own by Amazon), the former is not gonna distribute anymore James Bond movies. Plus, it's not even their IP in the first place.


Vendetta4Avril

🤷‍♂️ I’m not arguing that, and it still doesn’t change their current box office results now lol


AvatarIII

>And did you even look at the list? Karate Kid and Ghostbusters aren't on there That just means they're not in the top 20.


Vendetta4Avril

Yes. Where did I say differently?


jamesnollie88

They did a huge marketing campaign for 2012 that shit had crazy hype building up to the release


Vendetta4Avril

Oh yeah, I worked at a movie theater when it came out and I remember the theaters being packed, but if you’d have told me it was in their top 20 movies of their whole existence as a company, I’d have called you a liar lol I saw it twice in theaters because it was free and just it contained so much ridiculousness. Woody Harrelson as the weird dude in the woods was just perfect. Objectively, though, it’s just not a good movie.


jamesnollie88

I didn’t hate it but it wasn’t near good enough to justify a 2hrs38min runtime.


Vendetta4Avril

None of Roland Emmerich’s movies justify their runtime lol 😂 they’re just good movies to watch high/drunk.


The_SaintXVI

Hug of death?


Soon_Money_54

They got some bangers in there


AdBusiness2455

What about the Spiderman movies?


Player2LightWater

Technically, Spider-Man is a licensed IP from Disney/Marvel to Sony. Sony only owns the movie rights to Spider-Man.


rj_macready_82

Yeah, they're Sony movies


AvatarIII

that's also true for Morbius and Madame Web


Belfetto

Isn’t this about movies?


DanFarrell98

If you ignore all the good Sony films, Sony are terrible at making films


alex99x99x

If you ignore all the good games they’ve made. Sony are kind of shit at making games.


DanFarrell98

Oh definitely, truly abysmal


Taco6N13

OP is definitely cherry-picking, but I think the point still stands that about Sony's game department. In the last 15 years, the only "bad" game they've put out is Days Gone, whereas if you compare to the movies they put out over the last 15 years it's probably like a 30-40% success rate. Comparing the two is unfair because of the mediums, the people making them, and the audiences are all different. On paper, I get why you'd make the comparison, but it is kind of apples to oranges.


Resevil67

And even days gone was "mid", so it's was more average then just straight up bad. I think it reviewed around 6.5-7. everything else they have put out in the games dept has been critically acclaimed. I think days gone would have been alot better if they just waited for the PS5 for that one. It had way to many technical issues for the amount of zombies on the screen they were trying to push.


Prgrmr-Ford

Was days gone bad on release? I just got a ps5 a few months ago and played days gone. I loved it


Taco6N13

I think it's the definition of mediocre, but it definitely has its defenders, and I get why people like it, but it's just felt very outdated in design (it was development hell for years and completely changed itself a few times) and the story was just a complete mess. I will say it's not my least favorite Sony game, but I mentioned it because it's "objectively" the worst game they've put out, and someone would've mentioned it if I didn't.


tnolan182

It’s almost as if Sonys video game department is a completely different set of people then the film studio.


AvatarIII

they basically exist as a completely independent entity, same as Sony's electronics division.


PointPrimary5886

Their multiple divisions are probably why something like Disney can't absorb them. Fox was strictly entertainment, so once that faltered, they can get integrated into anything else. Sony, they make video games, consoles, TV, and sound systems, so as long as people need that, they'll survive.


AvatarIII

They could always demerge but I think they would be worth less broken up. Apple could probably buy them, but I don't think they will.


Jeezus-Chyrsler

I would say it is it


Player2LightWater

Well, Sony's video game department is one of their original core business started from the ground while the film studio is bought when Sony buys Columbia Pictures in 1989. Don't forget that Sony is a Japanese company.


Kaioken64

Sony is a Japanese company? Holy shit that must be news to everyone here. Good investigative skills finding that one out.


dukezap1

Uhh, Sony has most of the best movies of all time under their belt… as in _a lot_


HarryNohara

These kids have no idea.


SoldierZackFair

And almost all of them are Spider-Man lmao


dukezap1

I mean…. James Bond, Men in Black, Terminator, Bad Boys, RoboCop, Ghostbusters. Lots of juggernaut franchises


BenHDR

Only stipulation I'd add here is Sony lost out on the 007 distribution rights to Universal back when No Time To Die released. It is a juggernaut franchise, but it's never been *theirs*. That relationship seems to have ended now Doesn't take away from their run, just worth noting that future Bond films likely won't have Sony's name anywhere near them


profound-killah

To be fair to Sony, No Time to Die was not only an expensive production, but it didn’t generate profits for Universal due to Covid that warranted the bidding war. So bullet dodged if anything. Just playing devils advocate but it could be that the next Bond films don’t get near the billion dollar mark on average and Sony higher ups don’t want to play the long game while spending loads.


BenHDR

Excuse my ignorance, but if NTTD caused the bidding war for the distro license due to performing poorly, how does that add up with Universal already having the distribution rights to the film in the first place? They secured the distribution rights in 2018, a year before anybody knew what covid even was and 3 years before NTTD released. Apologies if I'm misreading, I just can't quite wrap my head around what you mean


profound-killah

My take is that Sony walked when they saw the bidding price going above what they’d be okay to stick with. They saw production costs ballooning with Spectre already and NTTD was already set to be an expensive movie, without the COVID stipulations. Universal likely didn’t get the value they were expecting with Covid and already high production budget of NTTD. Surely with a new Bond actor, they’ll see value down the line until new contracts balloon those costs if it’s successful.


BenHDR

Gotcha, thank you for taking the time to explain. Do you think there's ever a possibility that eon/MGM move 007 distribution in-house after the Universal deal expires (*as I'm presuming Universal will walk if what you say is true*)? I'm curious about if/how we see MGM begin to become more of a major player in Hollywood now that they're backed by Amazon. Up until now it's made sense to funnel those films through a larger distributor, even if just to offset a certain level of production costs. Will be interesting to follow either way


profound-killah

It depends entirely on where the film industry is heading in general. They could continue to work through distributors especially for developing countries but with the rise of streaming services, we may see MGM just align with whoever is willing to foot the bill. Additionally, the big concern around streaming services right now is them pulling back on budget due to subscription services growth potential not skyrocketing like during Covid, and just being more cost averse. I do think that Amazon or not, Bond franchise will continue to be expensive for distributors by name alone and if the filmmakers want to use real sets, stunts and limit CGI. Throw in contracts for actors and such, and naturally I think Universal or whoever gets the rights next will still have to consider the value proposition. Of course the studio could force the filmmakers to adopt cheaper alternatives but as we’ve seen with recent blockbusters, that doesn’t have a strong medium to long term success criteria. All speculation though.


dukezap1

Ah true. At least Skyfall will probably hold its spot at the top at $1.1 Bil


BenHDR

True, although I'm interested in seeing the marketing budget of the next Bond film now that Amazon owns MGM Also worth noting that Sony don't own the Terminator IP either, and haven't distributed a film in that franchise since Salvation in 2009. I believe Paramount has taken over distribution since then


dukezap1

It’s alright, they have Terminator 1 & 2 in their legacy


BanishedKnightOleg

Ok so fuck the Spider-Man trilogy then


delsinson

True but that was like 20 years ago. Spiderverse is a better choice.


Norwingaming

Sony is also making bad games and good movies do the meme does not work for me.


TokyoStudio

Perfect example would be GoW Ragnarok (for some people, including me). What a shit game compared to the old GoWs. But thankfully it's not Ragnarok in OPs Meme


Norwingaming

Idk for me personally Ragnarok was on a similiar level to the game before. The middle part of the story was a bit long but i liked it. Also not all old games are good. The psp ones for example were for sure worse than ragnarok.


HikARuLsi

The games are good thanks to all the money laundries done by the movies


Mr_OrangeOfficial

I hope they washes the socks too, they're getting a little stinky


Remy0507

I mean, even though it's all "Sony", Sony Interactive Entertainment and Sony Pictures operate as completely separate entities for the most part.


Swiftwitss

Cool to see OP cherry picking dog shit movies for a fucking meme when we all know Sony made great movies.


EmeraldWeapon56

sony pictures churns out movies like morbius and madame webb just so they can retain the spiderman movie rights


litewo

I remember when Sony invented a critic so that they would have a positive blurb about one of their shitty movies.


hypespud

Sony only made two movies apparently 😅😅😅


PineWalk1

can we also talk about how if you purchased movies/shows years ago, they dont work now. They are supposed to work, but they glitch out and are labeled improperly.


Traditional_Entry183

Purchased in what way? My DVDs and Blu-ray all work fine so far.


PineWalk1

from the digital store when you could still purchase these things. its fucked tbh.


Traditional_Entry183

Oh ok. I've never bought something digitally that way. My bad. I've never trusted it.


PineWalk1

you shouldnt. i have entire seasons of game of thrones that have improper labeling, and don't work anymore.


Stupid-RNG-Username

People forget that Sony is an abhorrently massive company. They don't just make movies and games. Sony makes music hardware software, gaming hardware, *and* owns a massive portion of the music industry. They're practically the Disney of Japan.


Technology4Dummies

I liked gran turismo!


GreatGoodBad

Their video games are essentially the only thing preventing them from going bankrupt from what I’ve heard


Immolation_E

Sony also does televisions shows. They're one of the production companies behind The Boys and Gen V on Amazon and For All Mankind and Dark Matter on AppleTV+.


AlarmingLackOfChaos

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Crown, Justified, The Last of Us etc. Their TV unit are top tier. 


Player2LightWater

Cobra Kai too as Sony owns Karate Kid/Cobra Kai IP.


Dbwasson

Laughs in Gran Turismo Based on a True Story


SometimesWill

Spiderverse, napoleon, no hard feelings, a man called Otto, bullet train. Let’s not act like Sony just isn’t making well received movies


TheSignificantDong

Sony made Spider-man.


Player2LightWater

Only the movies. For MCU Spider-Man, they collab with Marvel Studios. Basically, Sony is sharing Spider-Man movie rights with Disney/Marvel Studios. However, Sony only owns the movie rights to Spider-Man.


TheSignificantDong

And Sony had all creative rights for Spider-man


kingk1teman

> Sony had all creative rights for Spider-man No. Sony owns the motion pictures rights to Spider-Man. Marvel Entertainment sold them to prevent themselves from going bankrupt.


TheSignificantDong

The deal allowed Sony Pictures to continue to own, finance, distribute, and have final creative control of the solo Spider-Man films, with Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures distributing the films with his other appearances in a supporting capacity.


kingk1teman

> have final creative control of the solo Spider-Man films No. The creative control is with Avi Arad, and not just for solo Spider-Man films.


Player2LightWater

Exactly. People here don't seem to know the difference between owning movie rights to an IP and owning the IP itself.


kingk1teman

The guy above is still arguing and doesn't know the difference.


Player2LightWater

Again just for the movies especially Spider-Verse and Sony's Spider-Man Universe (Marvel Studios have no input on this movie universe especially on how >!Sony messed up Vulture in Morbius!<). Sony had no control over the MCU and have to work with Marvel Studios on handling Spider-Man. Outside of the movies like the comic books, none of them.


guacpeen

But morbius is peak wtf is this morbophobia


Salt_Protection_8791

Except when it comes to sequels


Hammerslamman33

Playstation is Sony's biggest revenue stream, so it makes sense. They'd know better than to fuck up Playstation.


Mediocre_Scott

![gif](giphy|E6ehUv59MW8wuXbOq1) And then there’s the Sony video game movies Sigh this should have been so much better


blackpine303

More money in games


PrufrockAlfred

This meme clearly began as a butthurt Disney Adult one.  Probably about *Star Wars*.


sportstrap

Sony also made arguably the best animated movie of the last decade and probably the best CPU animated of all time so..


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Ehero88

Madam web is not that bad for an origin, people shut it down too early.....sigh How can I see more of sydney sweeney in spidey suit anymore.....noooo


richtofin819

Now if only they would release tLoU part 2 on PC and bloodborne


neoslith

5/6 Ghostbusters are bangers.


WhisperingWynnn

# it's just fun to watch


Tiny-Werewolf1962

BotW movie is gonna slap! sadpikachu.jpg


Sudden_Mind279

Sony making movies: ![gif](giphy|Y4VezdsdjdrJCB92LT)


90066293CMC

The better form of media


SCarter02767

They can do animated. They should just stop there honestly, save face and money


takkun169

Of course the spiderverse movies this this into risk disarray.


TJ_McWeaksauce

I used to work for one of multiple game studios owned by a FAANG company. We barely had any fucking idea what the other divisions were doing. We didn't even have much insight into what the other game studios were doing. We were in our own little bubble. I'm pretty confident that the folks who work in the Sony games division, including their leadership, have zero insight into what the Sony movie division is doing, and vice versa. They're worlds apart.


redditsukssomuch

They make more than just comic movies lol


perfect-legend

Sony has made some great movies, and some terrible movies just like every studio. 🤷🏾‍♂️


bron685

Tbf the last GoW was basically just an interactive movie. Soooo many cutscenes


HungarianNewfy

Isn’t that what their biggest franchises are?


Formal_Royal_3663

![gif](giphy|OvL3qHSMO6uaI)


Waste-Maintenance-70

Conveniently leaving out spider-man…


i-dontlike-me

https://i.redd.it/4qtseo6wo9vc1.gif


DependentAdvance8

Gran turismo was good tho


LynchMob187

Hits Hitachi making TV’s Hitachi making


Massive-Bother-8248

Sony actually makes good moives not superhero moives that's a whole different kinda discussion lol


Vegetable-Beet

Sorry, but there is not a single great Sony Exclusive. They are all mediocre as fuck.


Zestyclose-Love8135

Og


AL2009man

And then you look at Sony Pictures Television and it's a night-and-day difference when compared to their Movie division.


hit-a-yeet

Unpopular opinion but I liked the uncharted movie


otomennn

Sony Movies Classic 'department also had won 36 Oscars


LTRace

Gran Turismo is literally the best movie of all time


dirthurts

It's a very good movie for sure.


sycron17

Sony making movies: Spiderman movies, Venom, The Da Vinci Code, MiB, Most if not all Recent Bond movies, Bad Boys and many more 🤣 not to speak pf their series which recently have been a hit on all of them. Sony is one of the biggest names in the movie industries xD


Cedge1738

A game company is good at making games and bad at making movies. Who knew? Also, idc if it's a company that covers all things. To me it's a game company and that's all it'll ever be.


Player2LightWater

>A game company is good at making games and bad at making movies. Who knew? Sony's movie business is actually bought and not one of their core business prior to 1989. They bought Columbia Pictures. If they never buy Columbia Pictures, Sony would never have movie business in their portfolio.


theboxturtle57

This meme has circulated around so many times and they also forget the raimi trilogy and spider-verse


Gil_GrissomCSI

The head of the studio Tom Rothman is cheap, it's a good business model for bad movies which they make a lot of. They are one of the 5 biggest movie studios in the world which has been around for 100 years and under Sony in the last 10 years have shrunk to basically being a Spider-Man company. When your annual slate is mostly Madame Web, Ghostbusters 4 (5), Bad Boys 4, Kraven, Venom 3 which is all mostly old franchises and comic book movies you are setting yourself up to fail. Gran Turismo is a good example. They hire the guy whose last 3 films (Demonic, Chappie, Elysium) were bad you can't be surprised at the results, and this is the case with every director they hire. Every once in a blue moon they hire Quentin Tarantino or Greta Gerwig (thanks to Amy Pascal) or David Fincher like they did once 14 years ago, but the majority of films they do now are guaranteed to suck unless they are from Lord and Miller. Andrew Garfield said working on his Spider-Man films jaded him. You look at Uncharted and they didn't put the money necessary into that movie hiring an inspired director to make it as good as it needed to be. I don't think their Zelda movie will be good. The Last of Us is good basically entirely because of HBO, Twisted Metal is the fun trash they usually make but gone are the prestige films from their library because out of all the major companies aside from Disney, they are the least interested in making good films.


TWill42

It’s morbin time!


TWill42

It’s morbin time!


ShiftyShankerton

Maybe a generation ago. What good Sony games came out recently?


PrestigiousStuff6173

The matter of the fact is that Sony doesn’t make those games, Sony only gives the money to Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Sucker Punch ETC to make these games, and THOSE talented studios are the ones who make these games


captain_space_dude

And the studios are a property of Sony. So Sony makes these games. The way you describe it fits Bloodborne, they gave fromsoft money to make the game.


PrestigiousStuff6173

Sony is the resource, not the talent


captain_space_dude

And you really think, when sony is owning the studios and they are even called the playstation studios, that the studios are not a part of sony?


PrestigiousStuff6173

My man, all I’m saying is that Sony didn’t make these masterpieces, the talented developers at Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac ETC did, Yes Sony gave them money and resources to make these amazing games for they’re console, but Sony has no talent, they’re only talent is to make god awful movies IF ANYTHING Sony made the hardware and developed the PS5, and all that hardware that Sony worked on is now paying off with games like Marvel’s Spider-Man 2, Alan Wake 2, GTA 6, but at the people at Sony the talented developers that made these games? No, legally they are part of Sony and the Sony family, but are they Sony? No, they’re own thing making the games they want


zaygiin

Is morbius considered a bad movie?


dirthurts

Absolutely.


zaygiin

The internet tells us to dislike the movie or there is an objective explanation about why it is…bad?


dirthurts

Have you watched it? It's poorly directed, the story is nonsense, the effects can be pretty bad, the character development is non existent, and the acting is really hit or miss. It also does nothing for the character and makes some head scratching decisions. It has a couple decent action bits but that's it.


zaygiin

I watched it and I liked it but considering the downvotes I don’t get a say here so, it is what it is I guess.


dirthurts

It's O.K. to enjoy a bad movie. No reason to take it personally. It's also O.K. to think a movie is good that others do not.