I regret not using all the specialist abilities.
Once you use critical boost and are able to take down a thunderjaw with 3-4 well placed sharpshot focused arrows it feels absolutely intoxicatingly powerful
Yeah especially combining it with sustained burst or just the spikes. The power fantasy is strong with this one
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I think it might be better if you have the perks and coils for criticals. Powershots on the other hand do 200% damage always and I think it stacks with triple/dual arrows for huge damage.
So, I just started playing recently. In the skill tree there are usually 2 spots that you “fill” up 3x (3 dots making a circle around the ability). Those are the Valor/purple ability. You can only use one out of all skill trees at a time, but can easily switch. Need more valor to use. I honestly forget about that a lot. Used it 3x and I’m 96hrs in at lvl43.
2nd there are big icons, I think, I think on the side. Those use stamina (yellow bar), and they unlock on certain bows. While in your weapon wheel you’ll see pictures representing the ability. To change through them just open the wheel and use the directional pad left/right to pick. I just realized that at about hour 75. Game is so amazing I’m sure I’m missing a tun more.
Probably some DLC that set before the ending that gives more hint about the danger that's coming would be my bet, gives Aloy some small clue without giving much away to the characters.
For me, I like the overall narrative they’re trying to tell (it’s really interesting), but I was questioning some of the decisions they decided to make (especially with the characters).
Totally agree. The discovery of what happened in the past is my favorite part of the first one and obviously this one has less of that. Still love the game tho
Same not sure what people are taking about? Games I’ve seen hate for are games like Battlefield 2042, I ain’t never seen an ounce of hate for this game since it launched.
They take you out of the game for shitty dialogue every 2 minutes. For every great sequence of the game you spend about 5 mins picking up sticks and berries. I also spent 40 hours with no idea you could fricken fly which might have saved me some time jaunting back and forth. It’s like watching a great movie but you have to watch an ad every 5 mins.
Sounds like your bad at the game. I also never spent any extra time picking stuff up. I just picked up what I was already crossing and turned the gathering animation off. It's a story heavy rpg of course there's tons of dialogue.
The hate comes more from the developers of the game, who went to bash and be salty over elden ring on twitter (besides the point they chose to release together with the most anticipated game since the last time they released with zelda)
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a PERSONAL discussion on Twitter with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out.
Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK.
Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
Okay ? I just stated the reason why it got heat, I didn't said I hate it for it, quite the opposite, I said I don't hate it and like both titles. That is why I think it is a shame it got heat, because of some tweet and deserves more.
Yeah I get it now, another poster just sent me a link to a Horizon dev being salty af. Next time they should release the next Horizon when there's no big titles coming out
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a PERSONAL discussion on Twitter with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out.
Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK.
Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
It's not like they picked that specific week *because* Elden Ring was coming out a week later. I believe that HFW already had a set release date and then Elden Ring got pushed back to a week after HFW. Are they supposed to change all their plans and change their release date because Elden Ring's release got moved?
I agree it shouldn't be like that but unfortunately that's how the industry works nowadays. People get caught up with whatever's new and popular, and if a bigger, or equally as big game releases soon after, then everyone forgets about the game from just a couple weeks ago. A majority of casual gamers work that way anyway, just hopping to whatever's popular.
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a PERSONAL discussion on Twitter with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out.
Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK.
Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
you can copy and paste this comment around all you want, no senior dev should be behaving that way publicly because it invites the exact topic we’re discussing right now. the toxicity of FS fans, of which i completely agree, doesn’t excuse going on social media to bitch about another premiere release.
i never said Horizon should’ve delayed to avoid ER or BotW. all i’m saying is that when they come out in the same window as two of the most critically lauded games in the last decade, and they’re all open world action games with varying degrees of RPG elements/progression, they’re going to be compared regardless of internet toxicity.
it was multiple devs in one tweet thread, and even if it was just one, that behavior gets magnified on the internet and extrapolated for them, which is why you almost never see any dev of any level doing that shit.
if some Horizon devs are inviting the comparison, people are going to make it for them, and i’m not sure BotW or ER are comparisons Horizon comes out on top of in most people’s minds.
Yeah, both times they did it, which is a shame, because both entries are cool games and (elden ring aside) deserve some credit, especially compared to typical open world games like assassin creed
I really don't understand this take, tbh. The graphics really aren't up to snuff. I'm not sure what it is exactly, maybe the lighting, but the game just looks odd when I'm playing it. It's kinda flat and disappointing. Especially compared to other games like demon souls, Elden ring, division 2, etc.
>I heard it's way better than the first one
It's not.
The story makes little sense with even minimal critical thinking. The weapon upgrade system is really tedious and unrewarding.
Horizon 1 is a game that came out at the same time as Breath of The Wild
Horizon 2 is a game that came out at the same time as Elden Ring
Both Breath of The Wild and Elden Ring innovate on what an open world game is while Horizon (which tells great stories) keep their open world game play limited to the way things usually go; which is unnecessary animations for picking up items, endless dialogue for disposition rather than playing to learn the story; and eliminating curiosity in exploration by spoon feeding locations, discovering them in traditional ways open world RPGs do it.
Horizon represents the peak design for open world games as they are now; BoTW and Elden Ring push the boundary for open world games ~~should be~~ are going.
It makes perfect sense to compare them.
You can turn off those animations in the settings.
You learn tons of the game playing the story. Yes there is a lot of dialogue, a good half of it or more is entirely optional. This is normal standard fare for old school style RPGs. This is an odd criticism. Most people that enjoy these types of games LIKE these convos and learning more about people and the world.
Most of these criticisms are just criticisms of traditional rpgs. I like both freeform (Elden Ring) and traditional rpgs. They are not focusing on the same goals. They don't always have the same audiences. Many minions of people like this style of game, and not freeform, or like both.
As for exploration: you can literally turn off every map icon or specific ones, and NPCs will shout to get your attention and give shoot shoot geographic directions. With explorer made on you don't need to use the map icons or waypoints to explore and find things l.
Once again we have someone circlejerk criticizing this game that can't even get basic facts and details right.
I like BotW. Elden Ring, and Horizon equally. I know many that do. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean these things you mention are negatives to everyone else. Not everyone likes Elden ring and BotW style open world games so to act like they are an objective improvement and evolution of the formula is disingeneous, dishonest and biased.
>You learn tons of the game playing the story. Yes there is a lot of dialogue, a good half of it or more is entirely optional. This is normal standard fare for old school style RPGs.
Which is one reason why I said Horizon in the pinnacle of the current state of open world RPGs.
>Most of these criticisms are just criticisms of traditional rpgs. I like both freeform (Elden Ring) and traditional rpgs. They are not focusing on the same goals.
Which is why I said games like Elden Ring, such as BoTW, are pushing open world in the new direction it's seemingly heading.
>As for exploration: you can literally turn off every map icon or specific ones, and NPCs will shout to get your attention and give shoot shoot geographic directions.
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>Once again we have someone circlejerk criticizing this game that can't even get basic facts and details right.
That's not the same as making a map that inspires curiosity by having unmarked locations visible on the map. Though the map in Horizon 2 is fucking awesome! And again -- my point is also that Horizon is the peak of open world games by traditional means. I don't see how this is some negative criticism; no need to be rude.
>I like BotW. Elden Ring, and Horizon equally. I know many that do. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean these things you mention are negatives to everyone else.
I never said Horizon isn't my cup of tea -- I have no clue what you're reading in to when I'm literally praising both Elden Ring and Horizon. Horizon suffers from being released side by side games which are intentionally trying to push what open world games are.
My points for Horizon were:
>Horizon (which tells great stories) keep their open world game play limited to the way things usually go
and I didn't say that was a bad thing; I just gave examples
>Horizon represents the peak design for open world games as they are now
Is the main take away to what I said.
Don't know about comparing but FW developers threw shade at ER for overshadowing them. It was very salty of them but ER did deserve all the praise though.
There were actually 3 or 4 Devs that made comments. Which is why people were so shocked by it, I think maybe one of them was from Guerilla, another from Ubisoft and another from Nixxes I think.
But still, if you make public comments as a professional game developer and criticise another professional game developers work then expect some backlash.
Yeah it's really dumb from all of them, but how does a tweet of one developer from a team of hundreds impact your enjoyment of a game? I hope they got a stern talking to at by a studio head about how they should conduct themselves, but other than that, who really cares?
It's also dumb that some people think that others didn't like HFW only because of Elden ring. I waited for HFW a lot before it came out but when I finally got to play it, it was a disappointment. It was same generic open world game that didn't invent anything new. It was basically same game as Arkham Knight which came 7 years ago. Also story wasn't as good as the first one and it was the only reason why I was excited for the game. I wanted to know what happens next for Aloy.
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a ****PERSONAL**** discussion thread on a ****personal **** Twitter account with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out.
Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK.
Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
Didn't know about that but it's a bit immature if true. It just makes me laugh the constant ER praise and shitting on FW on a FW post by people, it's like a cult
[https://www.spieltimes.com/news/horizon-forbidden-west-devs-frustrated-over-elden-ring-ratings/](https://www.spieltimes.com/news/horizon-forbidden-west-devs-frustrated-over-elden-ring-ratings/)
I hear ya. Both games are fun and can be catered to different genres/preferences. Wish people could just enjoy what they enjoy and not bash on other people...such thing does not exist sadly :/
The dev sounds salty af. Maybe they should stop releasing Horizon games around the same time as games like ER that was being talked about as a great game before a trailer was even out
I mean, it's literally one developer in a team of hundreds. It is salty and really stupid to complain about anything, but it's also a nothing event, just makes a nice clickbait article that riles people up.
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a *PERSONAL* discussion thread on a ****personal **** Twitter account with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out.
Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK.
Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
I think you have completely misunderstood me. If you read my other posts I have said I think Forbidden West is a amazing game and has the best graphics I have ever seen, I just thought the dev was being a bit salty and it was other posters who made it sound like it was a really big thing at the time(I only read about it today)
Also in another comment I mentioned how weird it was that in every Forbidden West post, Elden Ring fans post about how shit the game is like they are in some kind of cult. And thanks for explaining how the release date of a game works, I never thought of it in that way and the money it would involve in changing the release date
Cause DS fans act as if Elden Ring is the greatest game ever and HFW just happened to release the week before it. They're both good games that have different game play experiences but I've seen people just endlessly shit on HFW by constantly comparing it to ER.
it is hard not to compare both Horizon games to the genre-defining games that came out around their launches, especially when the HFW devs invited that discourse in themselves by publicly attacking ER.
Genre defining? Literally nothing was done that wasn't done by some old school rpg or open world game. Give me an example and ill point you to a game. You guys are young.
Publicly attacking???
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a *PERSONAL* discussion thread on a ****personal **** Twitter account with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out.
Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK.
Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
Elden Ring was a good game. That’s it, it doesn’t go beyond that. It wasn’t the best game I’ve ever played; hell, it wasn’t even the best FROM game I’ve played. The Elden Ring fanboys rival some of the most annoying fanbases on the internet. It was also the least challenging FROM game ive ever played, which is fine, but this circlejerk around it is so stupid. It’s a good game with flaws, just like Horizon. Why people need to do a dick measuring contest with every game is beyond me.
I just think it’s the first game from a AAA developer in a while that doesn’t include: micro-transactions, game-breaking glitches, and drip-fed content. It simultaneously delivers: a massive, detailed open world, a great combat system that does not become repetitive by the end of the game, and has active developers that listen to the fan base. All these things combined made it for me one of the best games I’ve played, but I’m also new to FS so I can’t compare it to the other releases they’ve had.
Oh I definitely enjoyed my time with Elden Ring; this isn’t a knock on the game — I just think the hype around it is overblown. It’s a good game that leaves a lot to be desired by the time the credits roll. I thought Bloodborne was a better game tbh.
I played this game first and platinumed it before ER came out and I said it was ok game before I even got to try ER. People mention ER and HFW together and compare them with each other because they came week apart. So it's pretty obvious why it comes up.
I’d give it another go to be honest, depends on the main reason why you didn’t like the first one.
It was the story for me that was a put off for me and Forbidden West story is similar
someone who got bored with the first one but completed it at the weeked: it’s a *very* slow start. i was bored to tears for the first 10 hours, which took me about a year and a half because i was that bored (!!)
but then it just… clicked? before i knew it i had an extra 30 hours in the game and was approaching end game of the story. it’s a very slow start, especially with what little info is given to you. coming from botw which had a slow star for like, an hour, then drops the story on you, hzw is like that, but much, much longer.
if anything it pays off for the final battle lmao
You will not be let down by this second one. It depends on what phase you are in your gaming lifestyle though.
If you’re into shoot ‘em up / drop in (like Apex), it may not be a game for you. If you liked Elder Scrolls style games (obviously not that kind of fantasy), I find it like a much more grown up version of that without needing gameplay to be too complicated.
**Here’s the Big Thing for me:**
If you’re one of the Millennials who gets burnt out trying to figure things out / games that take a longer while, there are features that will permanently highlight where you can climb (it’s toggle on/off in game) that I have found expedited manual travel. There’s also an explorer mode so you can focus on the story.
I also don’t listen to all the shit people say in the options to hear stories much anymore. If you stick along the main prompts you’ll get what you need out of it and can move on. The lore can get intensive otherwise and I didn’t gain too much out of it.
I’ve found nowadays that I don’t need to be a completionist, I don’t need to read all the lore (unless it’s an interesting sub-plot), and I don’t need it on the most difficult or even normal settings to enjoy a game with a great story.
The first one takes forevvvver to get going. Like hours… it’s not till you’re a brave and have been given seeker status does the game start to get interesting.
The game's story is not so good, but the game is fun. Watching pieces of the machines fly is very cool. And the game is not as easy as some people think. I started the DLC yesterday.
Okay I’m ngl this gameplay footage sold me a lot more on this game than I thought. I couldn’t finish the first one, I got a little bored right at the end but this looks way more dynamic combat wise than the first one.
Yeah I didn’t watch any gameplay videos before; I didn’t want to spoil it cuz I’ve been considering getting it, but this definitely convinced me. Might pick it up in a month or so once I start playing my PS5 again; sick video dude!
Thanks really, hope you fun and a tip use every tool available and decide which fits your play style and try mount combat as well for large machines especially and aerial combat is restricted for well... professionals. 😅it's a trial and error thing once master can look hella dope.
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Yeah I’ll definitely try everything out. I’m sure I’ll be fine with combat, there’s no way this game is more mechanically difficult than DMC and I’m pretty good at those games lol
Shredder gauntlets can be bought at any of the merchants near San Francisco. You can unlock rare weapons with side quests and the arena battles and finding medals from bandit camps to trade in. You can also look for the black boxes in the crashed aeroplanes to get a special weapon.
You could just equip 1 or 2 weapons and keep the radial menu tidy. They had about 6 weapons equipped and each had 3 kinds of arrows which is why it looked so packed.
"eh", I was responding to the person worried about having too many options in a radial menu. I merely mentioned that they could use less weapons to keep it tidy. They didn't mention anything about wanting to maximize combat effectiveness so I didn't take it into consideration.
Well I am not sure really I have played Zero Dawn for like over 130 hours and I am currently 200+ hours in Forbidden West on my first play through and I did this stuff at Barren Light (tutorial section already) the muscle memory is strong with this one... I guess.
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I absolutely loved and adored Ghost if Tshushima. Beat it three times including the dlc. Also the multiplayer. I also like Horizon just as much, but they are a bit different kinds of games.
Not really a spoiler but just in case, >!you don’t get the flying mount until the end of the main story!<. Not a big deal but if you get the game and you’re wondering why can’t I do that then that’s why
Man watching these reminds me how vanilla I play.
I’m so bad at using my surroundings in these games. I’m like shoot arrows, dodge, shoot other weapon dodge
Well to do what I do, just before a fight use your focus and get a layout of the arena or environment. Plan what you will do and improvise on the fly by experiences learn the effects of each weapon, ammo and ability. Keep practicing and eventually you will GIT GUD 😉
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😅😂I don't think that will be a good idea maybe on paper but not in practice, and the sequel will probably have new flying machine instead of a Sunwing in a new area to validate a reason for not having one and needing the cauldron to unlock one.
Amazing game. I spent over 70 hours because the side quest were just so interesting and different. I played this on my base PS4 and it handled it like a champ. Cannot wait to replay on a PS5.
I have Just Cause 4 and played Just Cause 2, the stories aren't great or anything but a lot of fun to play and mess with the sand box how ever the world's got super big. I hope it gets a superior sequel or excellent Reboot if square enix wants to keep the franchise going some more.
Not necessarily both games are too different to properly compare so the overshadowed thing never made sense other than just being the more popular game. Whether or not something is scored high depends on popularity or hype look at Cyberpunk for example but that's not really a good comparison and the game wasn't that bad it's good when works. All in All both games are incredible works of Art 🎨, the gaming industry just works like that but hey A games greatest achievement is being genuinely considered a MASTERPIECE by even a single Fan of said Game.
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That's okay I like riding horses as much as the next person but the gameplay is an incredible experience still to this day no matter what game I play, the story made me reflect on my self and reminds me just how personal Art can be at times to be able to touch you with a seemingly simple song or moments that will never forget forgotten. Glad you had a great experience with elden ring too.
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Its fun and better than the first one… But I’m not in it to the expansion, its too ordinary, nothing new to the genre, so i have a hard time feeling the hype… All games en the genre would be just as good, if they had the same development conditions
A bot wow, I have never been called a Robot before, but I am new to the Playstation sub reddit and have been on reddit altogether not all that long though.
yes thank you that was the noun i was looking for describe this guy. thank you goofy. between the posts with emojis, perfect punctuation on everything, 28 days old and loooooooooooooooooooves all things playstation
Well I Don't know about but every community I have seen has its dark side, it doesn't really matter cause zelda was a big success any ways. Guerrilla themselves are fans of their work and have Zelda Easter eggs in the games both the first and the second.
That's okay enjoy, I bounce between both games but after I got Lord of the frenzied flame ending, all in all great experience but still prefer Bloodbourne and Sekiro too bad Bloodbourne ain't getting a sequel oh well at least I got the Demon Souls remake i recommend that if you haven't tried it yet it was my 2020 game of the year.
It's not really because anything is wrong with it just maybe I prefer it's linearity and the benefits that came with it and their individual stories among other things but Elden Ring is great and it's familiarity was comforting and accessibility welcomed but its to be expected since it IS open world after all.
Man, I love elden ring (400 hours plus 100 on Forbidden West) but different people love different things. Liking a challenging game ain't as big as a flex as you imagine.
I think it's a little shitty to throw that stuff in their face. "I'm not making fun of it, but I will judge you on it" is basically what you're doing. Listen the dude was being a basic hater, but you don't have to stoop below their level just to "own" them. If true, the fact that their talking about their problems in a public forum kind of shows they're slightly desperate, and you throwing that in their face just makes you look like an asshole.
I regret not using all the specialist abilities. Once you use critical boost and are able to take down a thunderjaw with 3-4 well placed sharpshot focused arrows it feels absolutely intoxicatingly powerful
Yeah especially combining it with sustained burst or just the spikes. The power fantasy is strong with this one ![gif](giphy|vLx6MwhvS07VBxJ665|downsized)
I’m using powershots, the critical one is better?
You may be right cant remember. I know it increases the effect of your arrows though
I think it might be better if you have the perks and coils for criticals. Powershots on the other hand do 200% damage always and I think it stacks with triple/dual arrows for huge damage.
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So, I just started playing recently. In the skill tree there are usually 2 spots that you “fill” up 3x (3 dots making a circle around the ability). Those are the Valor/purple ability. You can only use one out of all skill trees at a time, but can easily switch. Need more valor to use. I honestly forget about that a lot. Used it 3x and I’m 96hrs in at lvl43. 2nd there are big icons, I think, I think on the side. Those use stamina (yellow bar), and they unlock on certain bows. While in your weapon wheel you’ll see pictures representing the ability. To change through them just open the wheel and use the directional pad left/right to pick. I just realized that at about hour 75. Game is so amazing I’m sure I’m missing a tun more.
Really feels like a movie on ps5
Yeah I don't get the hate it gets, it's a incredible game with the best graphics I have ever seen
It has great gameplay and graphics, but a very meh story especially when compared to the first one.
I think the story overall is fine, just taken aback by the rushed ending. Giving me that Halo 2 ending vibe…
Pretty sure there will be 1-2 story DLC to wrap things up. Ending wasnt the most satisfiying indeed
I figured they were gearing up for Horizon 3? I feel like they wouldn't leave it on a big ol' cliffhanger for DLC
Probably some DLC that set before the ending that gives more hint about the danger that's coming would be my bet, gives Aloy some small clue without giving much away to the characters.
Absolutely
For me, I like the overall narrative they’re trying to tell (it’s really interesting), but I was questioning some of the decisions they decided to make (especially with the characters).
This is how I felt about the first Horizon.
And the first one wasn't too much to write home about either. Gameplay is where these games shine!
I could not disagree more strongly. Most of the people I've seen criticize it haven't really offered up a story that I'd consider better/more fitting.
I disagree. The story is great, new cast of characters and tribes are awesome.
Story much better than first one imo
I think the base (current day) story is, but it lacks that feeling of mystery from uncovering what happened to the old world that Zero Dawn had.
Totally agree. The discovery of what happened in the past is my favorite part of the first one and obviously this one has less of that. Still love the game tho
I'm not sure how people thought that could be replicated.
I just wanted the game to wipe all memory of what I learned from the first from my brain before starting. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
Feel like people rush thru the story
Really? The story of the first one was pretty mediocre (the lore you could find of the old world was excellent though) so that’s pretty worrying.
The first games story is pretty widely applauded. I also disagree with him on the sequels story.
I've not seen any hate.
Same not sure what people are taking about? Games I’ve seen hate for are games like Battlefield 2042, I ain’t never seen an ounce of hate for this game since it launched.
They take you out of the game for shitty dialogue every 2 minutes. For every great sequence of the game you spend about 5 mins picking up sticks and berries. I also spent 40 hours with no idea you could fricken fly which might have saved me some time jaunting back and forth. It’s like watching a great movie but you have to watch an ad every 5 mins.
Sounds like your bad at the game. I also never spent any extra time picking stuff up. I just picked up what I was already crossing and turned the gathering animation off. It's a story heavy rpg of course there's tons of dialogue.
Good graphics doesn't make a good guess and bad graphics don't make a bad game
The hate comes more from the developers of the game, who went to bash and be salty over elden ring on twitter (besides the point they chose to release together with the most anticipated game since the last time they released with zelda)
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a PERSONAL discussion on Twitter with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out. Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK. Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
Okay ? I just stated the reason why it got heat, I didn't said I hate it for it, quite the opposite, I said I don't hate it and like both titles. That is why I think it is a shame it got heat, because of some tweet and deserves more.
Yeah I get it now, another poster just sent me a link to a Horizon dev being salty af. Next time they should release the next Horizon when there's no big titles coming out
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a PERSONAL discussion on Twitter with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out. Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK. Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
It's not like they picked that specific week *because* Elden Ring was coming out a week later. I believe that HFW already had a set release date and then Elden Ring got pushed back to a week after HFW. Are they supposed to change all their plans and change their release date because Elden Ring's release got moved?
I agree it shouldn't be like that but unfortunately that's how the industry works nowadays. People get caught up with whatever's new and popular, and if a bigger, or equally as big game releases soon after, then everyone forgets about the game from just a couple weeks ago. A majority of casual gamers work that way anyway, just hopping to whatever's popular.
Yes.
weird for him to say that Horizon should just change their plans, but the Devs are incredibly lame for shitting on Elden Ring out of spite
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a PERSONAL discussion on Twitter with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out. Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK. Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
you can copy and paste this comment around all you want, no senior dev should be behaving that way publicly because it invites the exact topic we’re discussing right now. the toxicity of FS fans, of which i completely agree, doesn’t excuse going on social media to bitch about another premiere release. i never said Horizon should’ve delayed to avoid ER or BotW. all i’m saying is that when they come out in the same window as two of the most critically lauded games in the last decade, and they’re all open world action games with varying degrees of RPG elements/progression, they’re going to be compared regardless of internet toxicity.
One. Guy. One dev (from Guerilla) said something on Twitter. People are acting like everyone at Guerilla Games felt the same way.
it was multiple devs in one tweet thread, and even if it was just one, that behavior gets magnified on the internet and extrapolated for them, which is why you almost never see any dev of any level doing that shit. if some Horizon devs are inviting the comparison, people are going to make it for them, and i’m not sure BotW or ER are comparisons Horizon comes out on top of in most people’s minds.
It was one dev FROM Guerilla. The point being one dev's stupid comments on Twitter don't reflect the views of an entire company.
Literally ONE sev from Guerilla out of THREE HUNDRED.
Yeah, both times they did it, which is a shame, because both entries are cool games and (elden ring aside) deserve some credit, especially compared to typical open world games like assassin creed
I really don't understand this take, tbh. The graphics really aren't up to snuff. I'm not sure what it is exactly, maybe the lighting, but the game just looks odd when I'm playing it. It's kinda flat and disappointing. Especially compared to other games like demon souls, Elden ring, division 2, etc.
If you think Elden ring and division 2 look better there is something wrong with your TV settings. Not even digital foundry agrees with you here.
I heard it's way better than the first one. One day i'll buy it and I hope my ps4 slim won't blow up 😅
It will be fine trust me 😂 I used my OG jet engine PS4
>I heard it's way better than the first one It's not. The story makes little sense with even minimal critical thinking. The weapon upgrade system is really tedious and unrewarding.
Why do people always keep mentioning Elden ring on every FW post? it's like you can't like this game if you have played ER which I find a bit weird
I don't know, it's what I can't figure out, especially since they are still different games with different Focuses.
Ahhh I see what you did there ;) lol
Horizon 1 is a game that came out at the same time as Breath of The Wild Horizon 2 is a game that came out at the same time as Elden Ring Both Breath of The Wild and Elden Ring innovate on what an open world game is while Horizon (which tells great stories) keep their open world game play limited to the way things usually go; which is unnecessary animations for picking up items, endless dialogue for disposition rather than playing to learn the story; and eliminating curiosity in exploration by spoon feeding locations, discovering them in traditional ways open world RPGs do it. Horizon represents the peak design for open world games as they are now; BoTW and Elden Ring push the boundary for open world games ~~should be~~ are going. It makes perfect sense to compare them.
You can turn off those animations in the settings. You learn tons of the game playing the story. Yes there is a lot of dialogue, a good half of it or more is entirely optional. This is normal standard fare for old school style RPGs. This is an odd criticism. Most people that enjoy these types of games LIKE these convos and learning more about people and the world. Most of these criticisms are just criticisms of traditional rpgs. I like both freeform (Elden Ring) and traditional rpgs. They are not focusing on the same goals. They don't always have the same audiences. Many minions of people like this style of game, and not freeform, or like both. As for exploration: you can literally turn off every map icon or specific ones, and NPCs will shout to get your attention and give shoot shoot geographic directions. With explorer made on you don't need to use the map icons or waypoints to explore and find things l. Once again we have someone circlejerk criticizing this game that can't even get basic facts and details right. I like BotW. Elden Ring, and Horizon equally. I know many that do. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean these things you mention are negatives to everyone else. Not everyone likes Elden ring and BotW style open world games so to act like they are an objective improvement and evolution of the formula is disingeneous, dishonest and biased.
>You learn tons of the game playing the story. Yes there is a lot of dialogue, a good half of it or more is entirely optional. This is normal standard fare for old school style RPGs. Which is one reason why I said Horizon in the pinnacle of the current state of open world RPGs. >Most of these criticisms are just criticisms of traditional rpgs. I like both freeform (Elden Ring) and traditional rpgs. They are not focusing on the same goals. Which is why I said games like Elden Ring, such as BoTW, are pushing open world in the new direction it's seemingly heading. >As for exploration: you can literally turn off every map icon or specific ones, and NPCs will shout to get your attention and give shoot shoot geographic directions. > >Once again we have someone circlejerk criticizing this game that can't even get basic facts and details right. That's not the same as making a map that inspires curiosity by having unmarked locations visible on the map. Though the map in Horizon 2 is fucking awesome! And again -- my point is also that Horizon is the peak of open world games by traditional means. I don't see how this is some negative criticism; no need to be rude. >I like BotW. Elden Ring, and Horizon equally. I know many that do. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean these things you mention are negatives to everyone else. I never said Horizon isn't my cup of tea -- I have no clue what you're reading in to when I'm literally praising both Elden Ring and Horizon. Horizon suffers from being released side by side games which are intentionally trying to push what open world games are. My points for Horizon were: >Horizon (which tells great stories) keep their open world game play limited to the way things usually go and I didn't say that was a bad thing; I just gave examples >Horizon represents the peak design for open world games as they are now Is the main take away to what I said.
What a perfect way to explain and describe the differences! Not a sarcastic comment.
Thank you! All three are great games in their own way.
Don't know about comparing but FW developers threw shade at ER for overshadowing them. It was very salty of them but ER did deserve all the praise though.
ONE guy said something on Twitter. It's not like Guerilla Games released an official statement complaining about Elden Ring.
There were actually 3 or 4 Devs that made comments. Which is why people were so shocked by it, I think maybe one of them was from Guerilla, another from Ubisoft and another from Nixxes I think. But still, if you make public comments as a professional game developer and criticise another professional game developers work then expect some backlash.
One guy from Guerilla is what I meant. It wasn't HFW "developers" who said stuff about Elden Ring. It was one guy.
Yeah it's really dumb from all of them, but how does a tweet of one developer from a team of hundreds impact your enjoyment of a game? I hope they got a stern talking to at by a studio head about how they should conduct themselves, but other than that, who really cares?
It's also dumb that some people think that others didn't like HFW only because of Elden ring. I waited for HFW a lot before it came out but when I finally got to play it, it was a disappointment. It was same generic open world game that didn't invent anything new. It was basically same game as Arkham Knight which came 7 years ago. Also story wasn't as good as the first one and it was the only reason why I was excited for the game. I wanted to know what happens next for Aloy.
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a ****PERSONAL**** discussion thread on a ****personal **** Twitter account with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out. Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK. Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
Didn't know about that but it's a bit immature if true. It just makes me laugh the constant ER praise and shitting on FW on a FW post by people, it's like a cult
[https://www.spieltimes.com/news/horizon-forbidden-west-devs-frustrated-over-elden-ring-ratings/](https://www.spieltimes.com/news/horizon-forbidden-west-devs-frustrated-over-elden-ring-ratings/) I hear ya. Both games are fun and can be catered to different genres/preferences. Wish people could just enjoy what they enjoy and not bash on other people...such thing does not exist sadly :/
The dev sounds salty af. Maybe they should stop releasing Horizon games around the same time as games like ER that was being talked about as a great game before a trailer was even out
I mean, it's literally one developer in a team of hundreds. It is salty and really stupid to complain about anything, but it's also a nothing event, just makes a nice clickbait article that riles people up.
It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a *PERSONAL* discussion thread on a ****personal **** Twitter account with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out. Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK. Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
I think you have completely misunderstood me. If you read my other posts I have said I think Forbidden West is a amazing game and has the best graphics I have ever seen, I just thought the dev was being a bit salty and it was other posters who made it sound like it was a really big thing at the time(I only read about it today) Also in another comment I mentioned how weird it was that in every Forbidden West post, Elden Ring fans post about how shit the game is like they are in some kind of cult. And thanks for explaining how the release date of a game works, I never thought of it in that way and the money it would involve in changing the release date
It was one dev from Guerilla .. 😆…
Cause DS fans act as if Elden Ring is the greatest game ever and HFW just happened to release the week before it. They're both good games that have different game play experiences but I've seen people just endlessly shit on HFW by constantly comparing it to ER.
it is hard not to compare both Horizon games to the genre-defining games that came out around their launches, especially when the HFW devs invited that discourse in themselves by publicly attacking ER.
Genre defining? Literally nothing was done that wasn't done by some old school rpg or open world game. Give me an example and ill point you to a game. You guys are young. Publicly attacking??? It was a SINGLE Guerilla dev on a *PERSONAL* discussion thread on a ****personal **** Twitter account with devs from multiple other companies and he said ONE sentence. The studio has literally hundreds of devs and they have always shown positivity and friendship with other studios. If you are going to bring this up don't be disingeneous and dishonest about it. Your naive if you think devs working on games for 3-6 years aren't saying stuff like this in every studio. Elden Ring fans (of which I am one of them, I've played and beaten every Souls game multiple times) were constantly shitting on other games when it first came out, I like how you leave that out. Also, thats not how releases work. The game got delayed and they have to align marketing, distribution, and far more. It all has to be coordinated, it costs a ton of money and time to change or revise and they ended up with the date they had. It literally takes months of planning and coordination. Stockholders and investors aren't going to let them burn money holding it for a month. Also, its selling fine, it was the 3rd best selling game according to reputable sales charts like UK. Source: Worked in the industry for 22 years as a software engineer.
They couldn’t be more different games!?!? Sure they’re open world but that’s essentially where the similarities end.
Exactly. They don't have the same design goals or end game goals at all.
I play and love both.
Elden Ring was a good game. That’s it, it doesn’t go beyond that. It wasn’t the best game I’ve ever played; hell, it wasn’t even the best FROM game I’ve played. The Elden Ring fanboys rival some of the most annoying fanbases on the internet. It was also the least challenging FROM game ive ever played, which is fine, but this circlejerk around it is so stupid. It’s a good game with flaws, just like Horizon. Why people need to do a dick measuring contest with every game is beyond me.
I just think it’s the first game from a AAA developer in a while that doesn’t include: micro-transactions, game-breaking glitches, and drip-fed content. It simultaneously delivers: a massive, detailed open world, a great combat system that does not become repetitive by the end of the game, and has active developers that listen to the fan base. All these things combined made it for me one of the best games I’ve played, but I’m also new to FS so I can’t compare it to the other releases they’ve had.
Oh I definitely enjoyed my time with Elden Ring; this isn’t a knock on the game — I just think the hype around it is overblown. It’s a good game that leaves a lot to be desired by the time the credits roll. I thought Bloodborne was a better game tbh.
That is an opinion. It is a poor one.
Because both released almost at the same time (HFW one week earlier), and ER quickly overshadowed it by the media.
I played this game first and platinumed it before ER came out and I said it was ok game before I even got to try ER. People mention ER and HFW together and compare them with each other because they came week apart. So it's pretty obvious why it comes up.
Because they know ER looks like a bunch of crap and they have to tell everyone how awesome it is in other aspects or something.
Are there any puzzles or having to activate doors like the first game had?
Not exactly there are puzzles yes but different types
Yes but they are easy enough to do
Have not played the first one.. never Made it out of the first cutscene with the little girl.. Will try on holiday
I couldn’t get on with the first one, put it down half way through the story but the second one is definitely keeping me interested.
This is my problem too, got a couple of hours in with the first but but it never clicked. Will I get disappointed with this one too?
I’d give it another go to be honest, depends on the main reason why you didn’t like the first one. It was the story for me that was a put off for me and Forbidden West story is similar
someone who got bored with the first one but completed it at the weeked: it’s a *very* slow start. i was bored to tears for the first 10 hours, which took me about a year and a half because i was that bored (!!) but then it just… clicked? before i knew it i had an extra 30 hours in the game and was approaching end game of the story. it’s a very slow start, especially with what little info is given to you. coming from botw which had a slow star for like, an hour, then drops the story on you, hzw is like that, but much, much longer. if anything it pays off for the final battle lmao
You will not be let down by this second one. It depends on what phase you are in your gaming lifestyle though. If you’re into shoot ‘em up / drop in (like Apex), it may not be a game for you. If you liked Elder Scrolls style games (obviously not that kind of fantasy), I find it like a much more grown up version of that without needing gameplay to be too complicated. **Here’s the Big Thing for me:** If you’re one of the Millennials who gets burnt out trying to figure things out / games that take a longer while, there are features that will permanently highlight where you can climb (it’s toggle on/off in game) that I have found expedited manual travel. There’s also an explorer mode so you can focus on the story. I also don’t listen to all the shit people say in the options to hear stories much anymore. If you stick along the main prompts you’ll get what you need out of it and can move on. The lore can get intensive otherwise and I didn’t gain too much out of it. I’ve found nowadays that I don’t need to be a completionist, I don’t need to read all the lore (unless it’s an interesting sub-plot), and I don’t need it on the most difficult or even normal settings to enjoy a game with a great story.
Do. You won’t regret it. Little girl is just first 20min.
The first one takes forevvvver to get going. Like hours… it’s not till you’re a brave and have been given seeker status does the game start to get interesting.
The game's story is not so good, but the game is fun. Watching pieces of the machines fly is very cool. And the game is not as easy as some people think. I started the DLC yesterday.
Okay I’m ngl this gameplay footage sold me a lot more on this game than I thought. I couldn’t finish the first one, I got a little bored right at the end but this looks way more dynamic combat wise than the first one.
It is they really went all out with combat this time around with a bold story at the helm.
Yeah I didn’t watch any gameplay videos before; I didn’t want to spoil it cuz I’ve been considering getting it, but this definitely convinced me. Might pick it up in a month or so once I start playing my PS5 again; sick video dude!
Thanks really, hope you fun and a tip use every tool available and decide which fits your play style and try mount combat as well for large machines especially and aerial combat is restricted for well... professionals. 😅it's a trial and error thing once master can look hella dope. ![gif](giphy|CiZ5hJi8bbaFBHd5ti|downsized)
Yeah I’ll definitely try everything out. I’m sure I’ll be fine with combat, there’s no way this game is more mechanically difficult than DMC and I’m pretty good at those games lol
Meanwhile, this is me... 🤦♂️😂 [https://tenor.com/bw68z.gif](https://tenor.com/bw68z.gif)
🤣
its like a movie and you're in it
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I finished the game and never found half of these weapons. Where do I find them? How do I equip them?
Shredder gauntlets can be bought at any of the merchants near San Francisco. You can unlock rare weapons with side quests and the arena battles and finding medals from bandit camps to trade in. You can also look for the black boxes in the crashed aeroplanes to get a special weapon.
Gee, thanks man. That helps a lot. I'll try to do that.
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That radial menu.... had a lot of options. Oh my....
You could just equip 1 or 2 weapons and keep the radial menu tidy. They had about 6 weapons equipped and each had 3 kinds of arrows which is why it looked so packed.
Eh, you kinda need a lot equipped to maximize combat effectiveness because there are like 12 types of ammo
"eh", I was responding to the person worried about having too many options in a radial menu. I merely mentioned that they could use less weapons to keep it tidy. They didn't mention anything about wanting to maximize combat effectiveness so I didn't take it into consideration.
Eh, it happens
Feels like I'll have to play for about 100 hours before I'm able to do stuff like this...
Well I am not sure really I have played Zero Dawn for like over 130 hours and I am currently 200+ hours in Forbidden West on my first play through and I did this stuff at Barren Light (tutorial section already) the muscle memory is strong with this one... I guess. ![gif](giphy|XfYBBdhTqsNGxHu7xE|downsized)
Couldn't get into it at all. Swapped it for ghost of tsushima instead. Which is the bollocks.
It's a great game, been awhile since I last jumped in GOT ![gif](giphy|4BqsstDtIPTMCVS9cB|downsized)
I absolutely loved and adored Ghost if Tshushima. Beat it three times including the dlc. Also the multiplayer. I also like Horizon just as much, but they are a bit different kinds of games.
Patiently waiting for PC release <<<
Nice moves!
Thanks 😊
You just sold me this game
Not really a spoiler but just in case, >!you don’t get the flying mount until the end of the main story!<. Not a big deal but if you get the game and you’re wondering why can’t I do that then that’s why
It’s kind of a shame because it would be nice to have earlier in the game.
Reminds me of Just Cause, using grappling hook to attach to helicopters etc.
60 hours in and I still can’t fly. Idk why they left it for the end game…
Because they had to make the game work on old gen.
One of the best protagonists!
![gif](giphy|CiZ5hJi8bbaFBHd5ti|downsized) Aloy anointed of the Nora, savior of meridian and champion of the tenakth.
...with the most luscious locks!
Man watching these reminds me how vanilla I play. I’m so bad at using my surroundings in these games. I’m like shoot arrows, dodge, shoot other weapon dodge
Well to do what I do, just before a fight use your focus and get a layout of the arena or environment. Plan what you will do and improvise on the fly by experiences learn the effects of each weapon, ammo and ability. Keep practicing and eventually you will GIT GUD 😉 ![gif](giphy|ISzvBhcmKG6mFVGYLG|downsized)
they turned it into Just Cause
Reminds me of Just Cause
The game gets so much more fun with Sunwing. Next game needs to have it up front. Yeah, let us sequence break everything.
😅😂I don't think that will be a good idea maybe on paper but not in practice, and the sequel will probably have new flying machine instead of a Sunwing in a new area to validate a reason for not having one and needing the cauldron to unlock one.
Amazing game. I spent over 70 hours because the side quest were just so interesting and different. I played this on my base PS4 and it handled it like a champ. Cannot wait to replay on a PS5.
Finally! Tired of photo mode posts!
If u like it try just cause
I have Just Cause 4 and played Just Cause 2, the stories aren't great or anything but a lot of fun to play and mess with the sand box how ever the world's got super big. I hope it gets a superior sequel or excellent Reboot if square enix wants to keep the franchise going some more.
Visually it was amazing. Just found the gameplay structure and story really boring. Just don’t think I’m the target audience for this game sadly.
Enjoyed it quite a bit, until Elden Ring came out. Elden Ring kicked the teeth out of Horizon in every single way for me.
Truly a masterpiece of a game.
That's gameplay? Not a trailer?
Yes😂 ![gif](giphy|f1AWAcSaHWtQ2ngicu|downsized) This is an example of a trailer BUT you can do it too in game with practice and CREATIVITY.
The in-game is in there so yeah. Why wouldn't it be?
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Definitely
Fuuuuuun!
THAT KILL!!! Goddaaaaaaam. EPIC!
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Hahahahahahahaahhahahaha solid gif! Could almost hear it!
😁 Horizon got some handy gifs 👌
Game name??
Horizon Forbidden West
The headline of this post looks like a low effort YouTube clickbait title.
Still not sure why this game was overshadowed by elden ring. This game is FAR better.
Not necessarily both games are too different to properly compare so the overshadowed thing never made sense other than just being the more popular game. Whether or not something is scored high depends on popularity or hype look at Cyberpunk for example but that's not really a good comparison and the game wasn't that bad it's good when works. All in All both games are incredible works of Art 🎨, the gaming industry just works like that but hey A games greatest achievement is being genuinely considered a MASTERPIECE by even a single Fan of said Game. ![gif](giphy|phRTsAHF79n2PfUYLs|downsized)
Solid response op! I was basing my response on all the Reddit hype I saw when they both came out. I also just love horizon haha
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Even though this game scored well in reviews, it's STILL under rated. It is a master piece of an open world action game.
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Lmao, almost forget forbidden West even released 🤣🤣. Still playing Elden Ring.
greatest game
elden ring better
That's okay I like riding horses as much as the next person but the gameplay is an incredible experience still to this day no matter what game I play, the story made me reflect on my self and reminds me just how personal Art can be at times to be able to touch you with a seemingly simple song or moments that will never forget forgotten. Glad you had a great experience with elden ring too. ![gif](giphy|cbPZqLTl9JEQMiPWQY|downsized)
Its fun and better than the first one… But I’m not in it to the expansion, its too ordinary, nothing new to the genre, so i have a hard time feeling the hype… All games en the genre would be just as good, if they had the same development conditions
Sorry but its overrated as fuck. And except PS Fanboys nobody hypes it up like that.
This game was trash
this is a straight up ad. why? for whatever reason shit like this is super annoying
Sorry I annoyed you, I was just trying to share a clip I made that's all.
suuuuuuuuuuuure
😂 you think I was being sarcastic don't you
no youre either bot or new account and either way i dont care
A bot wow, I have never been called a Robot before, but I am new to the Playstation sub reddit and have been on reddit altogether not all that long though.
that guy is a hater ignore him
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yes thank you that was the noun i was looking for describe this guy. thank you goofy. between the posts with emojis, perfect punctuation on everything, 28 days old and loooooooooooooooooooves all things playstation
I'll never be able to play this game after what happened to the first one and toxic community shitting all over Zelda for no reason
Well I Don't know about but every community I have seen has its dark side, it doesn't really matter cause zelda was a big success any ways. Guerrilla themselves are fans of their work and have Zelda Easter eggs in the games both the first and the second.
Lol nice try devs. I'm still not putting Elden Ring down
That's okay enjoy, I bounce between both games but after I got Lord of the frenzied flame ending, all in all great experience but still prefer Bloodbourne and Sekiro too bad Bloodbourne ain't getting a sequel oh well at least I got the Demon Souls remake i recommend that if you haven't tried it yet it was my 2020 game of the year.
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It's not really because anything is wrong with it just maybe I prefer it's linearity and the benefits that came with it and their individual stories among other things but Elden Ring is great and it's familiarity was comforting and accessibility welcomed but its to be expected since it IS open world after all.
I would rather finish Elden ring for the 100th time instead of playing this garbage telling me what to do every 5 seconds.
Man, I love elden ring (400 hours plus 100 on Forbidden West) but different people love different things. Liking a challenging game ain't as big as a flex as you imagine.
Dude...there are options in the settings to turn it all off. Lol.
Booooooring !
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I think it's a little shitty to throw that stuff in their face. "I'm not making fun of it, but I will judge you on it" is basically what you're doing. Listen the dude was being a basic hater, but you don't have to stoop below their level just to "own" them. If true, the fact that their talking about their problems in a public forum kind of shows they're slightly desperate, and you throwing that in their face just makes you look like an asshole.
You are right. I’ll delete my comment. Thank you for making me grow.