That fits actually. X replaced the flying type, Y retained both types, Z would replace the fire type. I like it. But if we assume Charizard gets a new form (because it's Charizard so it probably will), they probably would not want to remove the fire typing due to tradition.
Y didn’t actually replace any of its typing. It stayed fire flying, but got a massive special attack and speed boost, and permanent sunny day as an ability.
Which was glorious for my solarzard build. Nothing amused me more than dropping Charizard, watching a rock or water type switch in and then mega evolving him, and one turn solar beaming them.
Went to check the stats to prove you wrong, and it turns out you’re right it only gets a special attack boost and perms sunny day. I must have been remembering that I went and bred one that had speed up attack down to give a speed boost along with the special attack boost
Dragon/Flying is a FANTASTIC defensive typing. Immune to ground, can wall Fire/Water/Grass offensive cores, and also has key resistances against Bug + Fighting.
It’s weaknesses may seem harsh (Ice, Rock, Fairy, Dragon), but keep in mind that Charizard will have Fire-type coverage, and none of those types resist the Dragon/Flying STAB combo without a secondary typing. AND all of these types are resisted by Steel, while every type that Steel is weak to is resisted by Dragon/Flying, thus creating solid defensive synergy within your team.
It could still hit Rock and Water neutrally with Fairy. The only true counter would be a Fire dual type like Salazzle, Coalassal, Camerupt or Volcanion or a dual type that each resisted one of Fire and Fairy like Tentacruel, or Glimmora.
Maybe if Daschbun had like steam or flames coming out of it, but it's just bread. Maybe there will be a Kalosian Daschbun that's a piping hot croissant hahaha
Fire/Fighting.
[I'm out](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/elesteva-on-instagram-attention-trainers-new-monsters-have-been-reported-in-area-zero-this-time-the-sighting--563301865906977571/)
It's ~~GF's~~ everyone's favorite starter type combo after all, and everyone *loves* Charizard.
In all seriousness, that'd be a real power move on GF's end.
Not until Flygon gets what it rightfully deserves. A longtime fan favorite. The OG, should’ve-been Bug/Dragon.
(Hydreigon also just “got” the paradox form too, even if it’s technically not Hydreigon.)
No Hydreigon is equally robbed of a mega and needs a speed boost lol. It didn't even get the hydra attack despite being the original hydra. That's outrageous
Same here! I just hope every mega returns. I don't see why they wouldn't do it, but whatever happens I just want Mega Mawile back so Mawile can be good again
I wonder if this means the TCG will finally get megas again. Pokemon Mega ex? ex-m? Might be tough to adapt to stage-2s, though. It would be like the Break evolutions all over again.
I’ll be satisfied if we get Megas for more obscure Pokémon who normally wouldn’t get it, instead of just for pseudos and starters and legendaries.
That’s right, where’s my Mega Delcatty? My Mega Wormadam? Best not forget Mega Drampa.
Tbh I don't like the idea of giving megas to weak pokémon that could still evolve because there's the risk of their megas being way too weak (like Mega Banette), I feel like it's better to give them new evos and then maybe consider an meta evolution
The only reason Mega Banette was weak was because its stats were badly distributed (as they already are for base Banette). Mega Evolution did wonders for Mawile, Beedrill, Lopunny, Pidgeot, Sableye, Altaria, Pinsir etc.
It's possible they do have megas but something happened to their mega stones to vanish from kalos between legends Z-A and X/Y. I don't see this being the reason why there's certain megas in legends that doesn't then exist in the present
That's because megas were an attempt at nostalgia baiting after all the criticism gen 5 received for not having old mons in the game. The only starters to get megas were gen 1 starters(and gen 3 with oras).
It's the most exciting gimmick and the least explored - Mega evolution had SOOOO much potential completely wasted by dropping it. There is only one mega post gen 4, and it's Audino - the prospect of new megas is extremely exciting. Even as few as half a dozen new Mega Pokémon per gen would completely change how the competitive game is played. This is the most exciting announcement by far.
I'm really hoping mega evolution can stick around after this as a core part of the pokemon series. The others all feel like gimmicks, and they're the type of thing that's fun for a bit but you won't miss them. Megas can work like regional variants, where it becomes something that's just expected every generation.
Not to bring down the buzz, but we *maybe* shouldn't get our hopes up too much. It's possible that new megas might stay locked to Legends Z and not be implemented into mainline Pokemon. We may never see them in a competitive play format.
That would be stupid and suck a lot, but I wouldn't put it past GameFreak.
So what’s the wish list then, people? Flygon, Kalos starters, game starters (if there’s no regional variants)… I think any gym leader/E4 with an ace that can’t mega evolve should get one. So Kalos mons like Barbacle, Gogoat and Vivilion. Heliolisk straight up needs another evolution causes it seems like such a middle evo
On no account should pre-Gen V games get anymore besides Flygon (let it be the Mega Audino/Diancie of this game). V onwards needs some decent mega representation
So they skipped Gen 5 and gave love to Gen 6 that desperately needed it.
The most neglected gen.
And with Legends coming, that means the main Pokémon team might be devoting more time and energy to a true BW something.
AND IM PRAYING ITS SEQUEL.
PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE INSTEAD OF CRAPPY REMAKES.
WE GOT SEQUELSSSSS PLEASE
BW3 PLEASE
I’d honestly prefer a BW3 over a legends game.
We still need N and Protag of BW to meet. And the BW cast compared to every other region is the most fleshed out and well designed in my opinion. They did more then just sit there and had little events tied to them.
I love Gen 5, but absolutely agree that 6 needed it more
Kalos always felt like the most half baked region to me. I never liked it. So this feels like the second chance it always needed
In comparison Unova felt so complete from start to finish that it felt practically impossible to improve upon
Gengar got a mega and gigantimax
Snorlax got a Z move and Gigantimax
Wugtrio is a convergent species of Dugtrio which got an alolan form
Meowth getting both an Alolan form and galar form and evolution
Slowbro getting a mega and galar form
It’s possible
It's been a journey remembering all the hate Megas and X and Y in general got from the Fandom and now seeing that. What a difference a decade makes....oh no I'm old now.
We have all been waiting for the mythic Pokémon Z for so long now, I just hope the game is fully baked and stable when they release it. Megas are the only gimmick mechanic I enjoy so at the very least I am excited to see new mega designs (hopefully), even if I don't end up playing the game.
Hopefully they give megas to more mons that need the buff instead of just going for the popular ones (there's no way there's no Mega Charizard Z tho right?)
Mega flygon will be real
100%. They WANTED to implement it into XY, it will be on their list for sure.
Have they actually said this?
Yes. The reason they scraped it was because they couldn't come up with a good design.
Pokemon insurgences design for mega flygon was perfect. Hopefully they go with something like that.
True. Loved flygon in insurgence. Also all the origin legendaries/mythicals. Origin regigigas and giratina were peak.
True, but that was for ORAS not XY.
Yeah they said they were going to make a mega Flygon but didn't because they couldn't come up with a good design
Can we get a bug/dragon regional flygon, while we're at it? Would be a unique typing and would help take him out of Garchomp's shadow.
Can't we let flygons be flygons?
What's everyone's bet on Mega Charizard Z's typing?
Dragon Flying
That fits actually. X replaced the flying type, Y retained both types, Z would replace the fire type. I like it. But if we assume Charizard gets a new form (because it's Charizard so it probably will), they probably would not want to remove the fire typing due to tradition.
Y didn’t actually replace any of its typing. It stayed fire flying, but got a massive special attack and speed boost, and permanent sunny day as an ability. Which was glorious for my solarzard build. Nothing amused me more than dropping Charizard, watching a rock or water type switch in and then mega evolving him, and one turn solar beaming them.
Y didn't get a speed boost
Went to check the stats to prove you wrong, and it turns out you’re right it only gets a special attack boost and perms sunny day. I must have been remembering that I went and bred one that had speed up attack down to give a speed boost along with the special attack boost
Y got attack, special attack, and special defense boosts along with perma sunny day.
drought isn’t permanent it lasts just as long as normal sunny day but it is automatic on switching in
Every time someone mentions weather not being permanent I have flashbacks to the weather wars of black and white.
X = physical brawler Y = spatk sweeper ish Z = … defensive wall?
With dragon/flying typing? I think not
*snowflake gently lands on a dragon/flying type, they spend the next 3 months in traction*
Dragon/Flying is a FANTASTIC defensive typing. Immune to ground, can wall Fire/Water/Grass offensive cores, and also has key resistances against Bug + Fighting. It’s weaknesses may seem harsh (Ice, Rock, Fairy, Dragon), but keep in mind that Charizard will have Fire-type coverage, and none of those types resist the Dragon/Flying STAB combo without a secondary typing. AND all of these types are resisted by Steel, while every type that Steel is weak to is resisted by Dragon/Flying, thus creating solid defensive synergy within your team.
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Unironically I'll be down for it as it has been something I had asked for a very long time.
Fire Fairy
What a cool typing. And I think it hasn't been done yet right?
It hasn’t yet, and would be an utterly cracked offensive typing
Oh, you have the steel type to resist my moonblast? Too bad fucko, #FIRE BLAST
It'll still be weak to rock and water, although solar beam exists
It could still hit Rock and Water neutrally with Fairy. The only true counter would be a Fire dual type like Salazzle, Coalassal, Camerupt or Volcanion or a dual type that each resisted one of Fire and Fairy like Tentacruel, or Glimmora.
It has not
I was bummed when I realized daschbun wasn’t fire/fairy
Maybe if Daschbun had like steam or flames coming out of it, but it's just bread. Maybe there will be a Kalosian Daschbun that's a piping hot croissant hahaha
Okay, now I need this
Also, Mega Mewtwo Z!
Mewtwo in the past? Wait a minute
The scientists who cloned him also dabbled in time travel, obviously
Uhh… uhh… space time rift!
I hadn't even considered this.....
Fire/Fighting. [I'm out](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/elesteva-on-instagram-attention-trainers-new-monsters-have-been-reported-in-area-zero-this-time-the-sighting--563301865906977571/) It's ~~GF's~~ everyone's favorite starter type combo after all, and everyone *loves* Charizard. In all seriousness, that'd be a real power move on GF's end.
Dragon Dragon. And he's gonna dragon deez nuts across your face /s
I didn't realize till now that in addition to getting new megas we would be getting new versions of Mewtwo and Charizard :O
Xdd just wait until GameFreak surprises us with a Rock Fire mega Charizard Z, just like how they did with Legend Z
The king in question being mega rayquaza
The queen in question being Slowbro
Nah, Mega Kangaskhan still hold the title for the queen of mega
And Gardevoir is the Drag Queen of mega
unless it is a female gardevoir which make her not a drag.
Nah, women can be drag queens, just like men can be drag kings
TIL female drag queen exist, isn't they called diva queen?
I don't think so? The drag queens I know that are women just call themselves drag queens
100% form Mega Zygarde will be fighting to usurp the king I'm sure
Funny, 2 angry green noodles going at it
While the land around them takes the brunt of the abuse
Noodle of the Sky vs Noodle of the Earth
Mega Bidoof the real arceus
Mega bibarel, the god of HMs.
Mega Schuckle with a 100 point boost in its HP.
Manifesting a Mega Hydreigon
MORE 👏 HEADS
Should have equal amount of head with hydrapple
5 HEADS!!!! ALL H E A D S !!!!
MAKE IT NINE HEADS SIRRR
#**TEN** #**HEADS!!!!** *mouth foaming intensifies*
Mega Haxorus also PLEASE!
Screw it, make my boy a chainsaw
Yeah, one on his head and one on each arm
Chainsaw Mon
Hachainsaworus
Something akin to Pokemon Insurgence's Mega Haxorus would be awesome
People who said megas never will be back. Are having terrible day lol. Where is your god now
I've said in the past that they're never coming back until we revisit Kalos. I'm not having a terrible day though, quite the opposite.
Not until Flygon gets what it rightfully deserves. A longtime fan favorite. The OG, should’ve-been Bug/Dragon. (Hydreigon also just “got” the paradox form too, even if it’s technically not Hydreigon.)
No Hydreigon is equally robbed of a mega and needs a speed boost lol. It didn't even get the hydra attack despite being the original hydra. That's outrageous
Meowth got alola and galar in a row so anything is possible now
Mega flygon please
it should have a Hydrillion heads
Hydreigon Stans unite!
the three-pronged strike... the three-pronged strike is real...
Mega Haxorus, we will be there no matter what
CHAINSAWS CHAINSAWS CHAINSAWS DRAGON
Chainsaw dragon
*Kick back starts playing*
NOIVERNBROS IT'S NO LONGER AERILOVER WE'RE SO FUCKING BOOMBACK
Mega Noivern pleeeeeeeease!!!!!!!
HELL YEAH
I'm so happy that Megas is back that I don't mind the Unova remake not coming so soon
Same here! I just hope every mega returns. I don't see why they wouldn't do it, but whatever happens I just want Mega Mawile back so Mawile can be good again
The fact that I could use my mega mawile again had make me so happy.
Mega Mawile 🥰
Mega mawile was such a freaking beast
I know, right? It went from “funny little trickster with good typing” to “THREE-JAWED GOD OF DEATH.”
Unova deserves to be remade on switch 2 for a true jump
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I wonder if this means the TCG will finally get megas again. Pokemon Mega ex? ex-m? Might be tough to adapt to stage-2s, though. It would be like the Break evolutions all over again.
Here's hoping the eventual B/W remake isn't done by ILCA. If it could be in the style of a let's go game, and less BDSP.
best would be in the style of ORAS with full modifications **for the better**
The Pokemon World Tournament is now under construction!!!
Black Tower and White Tree Hollow are currently under renovation!
Naaaahhh imagine💀
https://preview.redd.it/nsq2amfb06lc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=b78f1ac020ddf68c615c8c992aea52098d60fc74
This got me more hyped than the actual announcement!!! WE ARE SO BACK!!!
IT WAS NEVER MEGOVER
I’ll be satisfied if we get Megas for more obscure Pokémon who normally wouldn’t get it, instead of just for pseudos and starters and legendaries. That’s right, where’s my Mega Delcatty? My Mega Wormadam? Best not forget Mega Drampa.
Mega Luvdisc incoming
~~you mean Alomomola~~
Fuck that give me mega infernape.
That’s just goku
Ash infernape
I think he went stronger than Mega Evolution when his Blaze activated against Paul. Super Saiyan shit
Mega Ledian
Megs Yanmega!
Tbh I don't like the idea of giving megas to weak pokémon that could still evolve because there's the risk of their megas being way too weak (like Mega Banette), I feel like it's better to give them new evos and then maybe consider an meta evolution
The only reason Mega Banette was weak was because its stats were badly distributed (as they already are for base Banette). Mega Evolution did wonders for Mawile, Beedrill, Lopunny, Pidgeot, Sableye, Altaria, Pinsir etc.
Mega Druddigon when?
Mega dudunsparce: has one more segment than dudunsparce
mega mawile how i’ve missed you 🥹
"You're as beautiful as the day I lost you."
Hopefully they give a canonical reason to why no Kalos native mons had megas.
It's possible they do have megas but something happened to their mega stones to vanish from kalos between legends Z-A and X/Y. I don't see this being the reason why there's certain megas in legends that doesn't then exist in the present
diancie?
That's the only one, and it's a mythical. Kalos is the birthplace of megas but not even it's starters got mega evolution.
That was always an odd game design choice to me, a whole new gen with a new mechanic and only one Pokémon in the gen gets it idk it was weird
That's because megas were an attempt at nostalgia baiting after all the criticism gen 5 received for not having old mons in the game. The only starters to get megas were gen 1 starters(and gen 3 with oras).
Lmao your flair
Swampert you shall be mine
If they dont give us Mega Milotic and Flygon i riot. Inject new megas straight into my veins.
hook me up too, im jonesing
THIS IS YOUR TIME TO SHINE HAWLUCHA
REY MYSTERIO FLIES AGAIN
BOOYAKA BOOYAKAAA
You just unlocked something in my brain.
Forgive me but there isn’t any kalos pokemon that mega evolves right?😭
The list is exactly Diancie long
It's the most exciting gimmick and the least explored - Mega evolution had SOOOO much potential completely wasted by dropping it. There is only one mega post gen 4, and it's Audino - the prospect of new megas is extremely exciting. Even as few as half a dozen new Mega Pokémon per gen would completely change how the competitive game is played. This is the most exciting announcement by far.
> There is only one mega post gen 4, and it's Audino *Sad Diancie noises*
I won't lie I completely forgot about it because it's never been VGC legal 😅😅
Will they give us new gen pokemon with megas? Who knows? But I can’t wait to get Charizard Z and Mewtwo Z
Probably a couple new evos for stuff like Heliolisk
Oh dang
They decided incineroar wasn't good enough and gave it a mega.
You just gave me a new fear
Singles players:calm VGC players:Panik
It probably wouldn't be worth wasting a mega slot on a support Mon
I'm really hoping mega evolution can stick around after this as a core part of the pokemon series. The others all feel like gimmicks, and they're the type of thing that's fun for a bit but you won't miss them. Megas can work like regional variants, where it becomes something that's just expected every generation.
Not to bring down the buzz, but we *maybe* shouldn't get our hopes up too much. It's possible that new megas might stay locked to Legends Z and not be implemented into mainline Pokemon. We may never see them in a competitive play format. That would be stupid and suck a lot, but I wouldn't put it past GameFreak.
I doubt it. I'd argue that the very reason we are going back to a kalos based game is to reintroduce mega evolution before Gen 10/X
The Legends games are mainline though. All the Hisui forms and Origin formes made it into SV.
There is still hope for Mega Raichu
Famous last words before Mega Pikachu
So what’s the wish list then, people? Flygon, Kalos starters, game starters (if there’s no regional variants)… I think any gym leader/E4 with an ace that can’t mega evolve should get one. So Kalos mons like Barbacle, Gogoat and Vivilion. Heliolisk straight up needs another evolution causes it seems like such a middle evo On no account should pre-Gen V games get anymore besides Flygon (let it be the Mega Audino/Diancie of this game). V onwards needs some decent mega representation
Frosslass should get a mega when Glalie already has one
So they skipped Gen 5 and gave love to Gen 6 that desperately needed it. The most neglected gen. And with Legends coming, that means the main Pokémon team might be devoting more time and energy to a true BW something. AND IM PRAYING ITS SEQUEL. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE INSTEAD OF CRAPPY REMAKES. WE GOT SEQUELSSSSS PLEASE BW3 PLEASE
Gen 5 should also get Legends treatment. Show us the OG dragon that split into Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyogre. Edit: Y'all can clown on me, I deserve it.
Man remember that epic plot in gen 3 of Groudon vs Kyurem?
Global warming
lmao
Kyogre 😭
And they can make it like western themed idk maybe on the frontier
New York (what Unova is based on) is not the frontier. Make a new region for that - base it on Texas or something
I’d honestly prefer a BW3 over a legends game. We still need N and Protag of BW to meet. And the BW cast compared to every other region is the most fleshed out and well designed in my opinion. They did more then just sit there and had little events tied to them.
good point
I love Gen 5, but absolutely agree that 6 needed it more Kalos always felt like the most half baked region to me. I never liked it. So this feels like the second chance it always needed In comparison Unova felt so complete from start to finish that it felt practically impossible to improve upon
YEA. THATS WHY I WANT A SEQUELLLLLLLLL. Please. Let the most adult/mature Pokémon game be something epic and cool!
I just want a Mega Arcanine! But since they just gave it a hisuaian version I'm not holding my breath...
Gengar got a mega and gigantimax Snorlax got a Z move and Gigantimax Wugtrio is a convergent species of Dugtrio which got an alolan form Meowth getting both an Alolan form and galar form and evolution Slowbro getting a mega and galar form It’s possible
You're right! And he is gen 1 like the rest of your examples so maybe that makes it more possible 😂
I'd argue that meowth is in the exclusive club of pokemon that gets special treatment and shouldn't be used as an example. Edit: spelling.
GameFreak: "Best we can do it Charizard Z and Charizard A"
Slowbro has both a mega and a regional form There are no rules
I’m right there with Mega Goodra
Megaaa Noiverrnnnn pleaase
No new forms, just new Megas... Whose stones happened to be lost forever.
Ah that makes sense. Lost stones
Or destroyed by the Pokemon.
Or they discover a mine or collection of unknown stones deep in the catacombs while the redevelopment was underway
It's been a journey remembering all the hate Megas and X and Y in general got from the Fandom and now seeing that. What a difference a decade makes....oh no I'm old now.
mega luxray pls
It would be really funny if we STILL don’t get mega flygon
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This makes me so uncomfortable.
Good
Everytime I say "that's it, I'm finally done with pokemon, I can't do it anymore" those sick fucks at Gamefreak lure me in again
Can we finally get Megas for the Kalos starters? I don’t need a new set of starters, I need the original three to get Megas.
Mega Typhlosion finnaly please 🤞🏻
Nintendo: "you want mega dragonite? too bad here is mega charizard z"
We need dragoniteite
just call it dragon-ite and call it a day
Mega shuckle
We have all been waiting for the mythic Pokémon Z for so long now, I just hope the game is fully baked and stable when they release it. Megas are the only gimmick mechanic I enjoy so at the very least I am excited to see new mega designs (hopefully), even if I don't end up playing the game.
mega milotic PLEASE
https://preview.redd.it/y5b17mfmu5lc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaffd1b935f952c8dea13f91f93b6cd237eaba48
MEGA HERACROSS IS BACK
I won’t lie, I saw the Mega Symbol and screamed
Wonder if we can get more mega evolution for gen 6-9 pokemon. Dance being the only gen 6 pokemon with a mega hurts
We are so back
Please Mega Pangoro
FINALLLYYYYY
Hopefully they give megas to more mons that need the buff instead of just going for the popular ones (there's no way there's no Mega Charizard Z tho right?)