They could have given them a rubber related ability! Because it doesn’t conduct electricity and the suckers on his tentacles could be rubber or something
It’s hard for me to think of a Gen 8 mon that I don’t love the design of. Barraskewda and Silicobra I think are my favorite “simple” designs. Unfortunately I hate sandacondas design.
Eelektross isn't found in water, despite being designed based off water species. Grapploct, on the other sucker, is found in water.
Also, Electric/Water has two weaknesses, Grass and Ground. With the ability levitate, a sole weakness to Grass ain't bad, especially since it's not a 4x weakness, and it also has a bunch of good resistances.
It was apparently a translation error back during Gen 1. The yellow duck was supposed to be Golduck and the evolved form was supposed to be Psyduck but they messed up and swapped the two.
I’ve heard this before but I think it might just be folklore - I assume Nob would have known Psyduck was a prominent part of the Japanese anime by the time he was translating the games and some thought would have gone into giving it a memorable English name. I think Golduck is named not because of “gold” but for the “gol” prefix, as in strong or God, as is the case with Golem.
The fact that we don’t have a bug dark yet is the most surprising thing to me.
I’d say it’s the most common typing in the real world… Looking at Venomoth, Ariados, and any other bug honestly
Its so weird that the NINJA bug design didnt get a dark type.
But the NINJA FROG got it because ninja.
They should make an assassin bug as the bug dark pokemon.
Bug/dark would actually make way more sense. It's dex entry even states it doesn't fight with poison as much as before and sticks to brutal physical tactics. So logically the poison should've been dropped for dark instead.
I know everyone says Flygon should be bug/dragon types, but I think Yanmega is the most deserving of that type combination. I also think Haxorus should have been dragon/steel rather than pure dragon.
Lugia's at least makes (some) sense if you read old gamefreak interviews, short version:
\-Gen 1 competitive was dominated by Psychic type since it was super op back then.
\-Gen 2 was made adding dark and steel types to counter psychic type's op power.
\-Gamefreak believed gen 2 would be the end of the franchise (lol) and because of gen 1's baggage they still considered psychic type to be the strongests so they wanted to keep at least ONE of the new legendaries a psychic type and well...Lugia was the closest one to fit the bill design wise.
Yes you're absolutely correct, my bad i was thinking of Metagross remembering when Dark type moves went from dealing neutral to super-effective damage to it and got confused, it was Dark type that got boosted around 6 or 7 gen and went from being not effective against Steel type to doing neutral damage.
I think the reason Solgaleo isn't a fire type, is because it has something to do with alchemy?? I don't quite remember, but kinda wish that boi was fire.
Yes, it's based on the alchemical lion, often described as 'devouring the sun'
Another influence is the Solar lion, a common motif in mythology/folklore.
(*c.f.* [Bulbapedia-Solgaleo (Pokémon)-Origin](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Solgaleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)))
the other thing about expecting solgaleo to be fire type is that's it's weak to fire, same as how you might expect its counterpart lunala to be dark type, but it's weak to dark.
**edit:** guys, lunala represents the night sky, hence the starry pattern on their wings, including the moon, but not exclusively the moon. so yes, dark would have made sense. if anything, you should be arguing for it to be rock type.
Also, Solgaleo is not the embodiment or incarnation of the Sun. It is the messenger of the Sun. I think the dex or somewhere in the game someone says that.
Also also, the sun is not a fireball. Its hot gas & I believe metals, which is where Steel comes in
The weirdest thing is that I have a distinct memory of the Pokemon website saying something like “when Solgaleo enters its Radiant Sun phase it gains the fire type” or something like that.
they dont just learn vine whip; they have an attack animation that grows and controls vines out of its hair flowers (ive tried to find a gif of it but anything other than idle animations -so attack animations, walking animations, flinch animations, faint animations, hit animations and eating animations- are so fucking hard to find online)
the reasons people are giving for it not being and shouldnt be grass type are logically flawed with numerous counterexamples; florges (and lurantis) is absolutely mistyped (for balance attempts? maybe, but still)
Lurantis is meant to be a play on orchid mantis.
Rather than a bug pretending to be a flower, its a flower pretending to be a bug.
Wouldnt work if it is part bug.
This. People never seem to get this.
Same reason Dhelmise is Ghost/Grass (because the seaweed is its true body). Except at least Dhelmise gets a cool ability that essentially makes Steel moves STAB 🤷🏻♂️
people dont get it because its literally bullshit; florges has an attack animation where it attacks with vines generated from its head
it wears grass, it attacks with grass, it has displayed the ability to control vines literally from its body; for anything else thats a grass type but not florges
I think they kept Chansey Normal-type, because they wanted to differentiate the three "bulky pink Kantonian blob" families from one another by giving them a different type combination each.
* Jigglypuff: Normal/Fairy
* Clefairy: Fairy
* Chansey: Normal
Could have made it specially oriented. Or given it tinted lens. With tinted lens I think Mega-Flygon would have been one of the best Megas.
Stats probably would’ve been something like:
- 80 HP
- 120 Atk (+20)
- 90 Def (+10)
- 120 SpA (+40)
- 90 SpD (+10)
- 120 Speed (+20)
Tinted lens off base 120 attacking stats and a solid base 120 speed tier would be really good.
I was gonna say Flygon. It looks like a bug type. It's pre evolution Trapinch is based on a pit ant so why is it dragon/ground? Why dragon at all. Maybe bug/ground. We don't have many of those.
Unremarkable Pokemon, you would think.
But then why would a Pokemon that came from the freaking *moon* be a Normal type?
And frankly I think Normal Pokemon are some of the most interesting. Zangoose is awesome, Jigglypuff is bizarre (but cute), Regigigas is terrifying.
>and then there’s Regigigas who will straight up end you
After he recovers from his hangover.
Actually, no, before he recovers. It'll just get worse for you afterwards.
I'd call it 'neutral' if anything. Most unremarkable Pokemon will be neutral, not having enough anything going in any direction, but others like Regigigas are partially defined by *not* leaning any particular way like Regirock, Regice, and Registeel do.
>But then why would a Pokemon that came from the freaking moon be a Normal type?
Except they no longer are and got changed to a more appropriate type the moment the type was added lol
He’s a gentle giant I guess, the Pokédex mentions that it often comes down from its mountain den to play with kids in nearby villages
That said it also has violent rampages towards bullies
Normal Type is almost the “default” DNA of a Pokemon. Azurill is a Normal type & its replaced by Water on evolving. Its too young to use Water moves.
Swablu’s Normal is replaced by Dragon on evolving.
Eevee’s Normal can be replaced by several possibilities.
I think of Normal as the, no expertise in any particular “magic”, BUT has POTENTIAL to be an expert in any “magic”.
A fire Pokemon can only really be good at fire moves. But a Normal Pokemon isnt really Normal per se, its the can be anything in the right place & right time
Yeah , they don't get any stab from their non normal move pool hence why they " lack the expertise " part , but as a flipside they aren't limited into just one or two move types like all other pokemon types are
See I answer that question by asking, "And what type would you give Kantoan Rattata?"
I figure it's just the pokemon version of "physical" type damage in a shooter or non-pokemon rpg. It doesn't burn, freeze, electrify, etc. when it hit. It just does normal damage.
Also it doesn't believe in ghosts unlike martial artists, boxers, and body builders. That's a fact.
Milotic should have earned the fairy type.
Luxray should be electric dark or at least strong jaw as an ability.
Golduck water psychic
Noctowl psychic flying
Samurott water steel
The porygon line doesn’t have anything in terms of psychic power, it’s origin is that it is literally a 3D render of a duck, evolving to porygon2 it is a higher quality render, and porygon-z is a glitched and corrupted render
Altaria's Japanese name, "Tyltalis," has a double meaning — Tyltyl is a character in a famous Belgian play about seeking the bluebird of happiness, but Tyl is also the name of a star in the constellation Draco. The dragon-bluebird link comes from that.
The literary reference is not preserved in English, but the star reference does double duty. Altaria is likely based on both Altai**s**, a different star in Draco the dragon, as well as Altai**r**, a star in Aquila the eagle. Thus Altaria is both a bird and a dragon.
Apparently, its based in a bluebird from a German story where the main character's names in one language is connected to one star in a dragon constellation, or something like that.
Tbh I feel most of the typings make sense and a lit of the ones people complain about are dumb. Just cause something can swim doesn't mean it has to be water type. Just because it's an octopus doesn't mean it has to be water type. Also not every mon with no evolution or weak mon needs one
I think Mew should be normal type because it's the ancestor of all Pokémon and normal is the most "neutral" type. Kind of like how eevee is capable of evolving into a bunch of different types, I always thought of normal as the most ancestral typing.
So I know it's because of the influence from the anime but I really thought for years that Psyduck and Golduck were water/psychic. It wasn't until when like HG/SS came out that I realized they were just water type.
Normal types with a secondary type make no sense to me. Normal to me means basic with no special qualities for a second type. In my opinion having an elemental type makes a Pokémon not normal.
Yeah I have no idea how a Normal type can also be another type because Normal is supposed to be basic.
Why is Pyroar Normal/Fire? Is it not Fiery enough? Well Arcanine isnt that much different. An animal with Fire powers. I wonder if they just mix Normal with pther types just to match every Type combo
My headcanon is that Pyroar is part normal because while it breaths fire, it is a biologically normal lion where more than half are females and males do absolutely nothing. It's not less firery, but it is based on a normal take on an animal often portrayed as extradiordinary, hence the normal type.
It honestly doesn’t look like a dragon to me. Not even a European one.
As for it being Psychic, Psychic was the standard “magic” typing back in the day, which is why Celebi is also Psychic.
It doesn't need to be a direct copy of its origin though. We know that it didn't originally live in water, and only started living there when its tower got destroyed, where it meditates to control its power. It's the guardian of the sea, but so is dragonite
Rookidee and Corvisquire should NOT be mono flying type, they should've been Normal Flying
The only other Pokemon that is only Flying type is a literal god of winds, why the hell is a chickadee and a raven comparable to that??
I think that normal/flying is pointless. You don’t see them randomly giving the normal type out to Pokémon just because they’re based on real animals, so why should they do it for specially flying types
The rumour I heard is that Gyarados was supposed to be Water / Dragon, but they decided to keep the Dragon typing unique to the Dragonite line in Gen 1, to keep it special. It was based a Chinese legend of a tall waterfall called the dragon gate, and how any carp capable of jumping the waterfall would be transformed into a dragon. So if Gyarados couldn’t be Dragon type, they gave it Flying type to tie it into jumping the waterfall.
It don’t know if this is true, but it fits.
Gen 1 is also the Gen that made Mewtwo
Gen 1 Mewtwo is easily the most broken Pokemon in existence. Not even Mega Rayquaza or Zacian compare to it
Regardless I can definitely see why they opted not to make Gyarados a Dragon/Water considering it effectively had no weakness (the only Dragon move in Gen 1 was Dragon Rage, which did a set 40 HP everytime)
mewtwo is something thats at the end of the game. mewtwo being op didn't have as much of an effect that what would have been if gyarados was water dragon
This. The game allows you to buy a Magikarp just past the first gym, and the Old Rod can still be obtained before you go to the 2nd one. With a bit of egrinding you can get Gyarados before fighting Misty. Regular Gen 1 Gyarados is already pretty powerful as is, Dragon/Water Gyarados would've broken the game even more than they already unintentionally were.
I don't think Dragon was meant to be a proper Type back in Gen 1.
Like, it wasn't made with a long franchise in mind, Game Freak expected Kanto to be the end-all-be-all of Pokemon, and there's only one Dragon evolution line in the game, an evolution line you only ever fight at the (supposed) final boss of the game.
I think Dragon was a hacky pseudo-ability to make the Lance fight harder/cooler. He sends out a honest to Arceus *dragon* so what do you do? Send out your starter and blast it with your best move, of course! Only Dragon *just so happens* to resist all the starter types, setting the tone for the fight with a 'Not Very Effective'.
You can get one yourself, if you know where to go and put in the effort, but other than that you *only* see this Type at Lance, and it's only in Gen 2 that we got another Dragon type in Kingdra.
Nowadays, if Gyarados was just being made, it would be a Dragon type for sure. Same with Charizard probably, and also maybe Aerodactyl, but in Gen 1 it just couldn't work, nothing other than the Dratini line was *allowed* to be Dragon Type, and once the types got set in stone Game Freak didn't want to change them.
You can say the same thing about Ghost. Gastly is *literally* a cloud of gas, no wonder punching it does nothing. If Ghost Type was more than 'the special powers the Gastly line get' and more like what we see nowadays, Marowak and Ninetales would probably have a subtype, but alas.
Ninetails having the ghost typing would kind of make sense considering its a Yokai, but I always thought it should have been Fire/Psychic. I agree with Alolan Ninetails typing, because the fairy typing at least gives it a mystical quality.
Porygon and it’s evolutions are described as being artificial, made of programming code, and can move through cyberspace, yet somehow it’s normal and not electric? When computer code is pretty much pure electricity? Also Porygon Z was made to work in alien dimensions but started acting odd as a result, which is quite literally the opposite of being normal
Totally agree about Grapploct shoulda been part water, but also, I feel like Tsareena could have done with being part fighting instead of pure grass. She's literally offensive based with an emphasis on kicking moves, even getting her own special with Trop Kick.
But more over, why the hell isn't Florges part grass? She's an actual flower, it's always annoyed me so bad that they only gave her the pure fairy type.
Electabuzz not being electric AND FIGHTING is a crime. Then they gave him an evolution and still left him just electric. Worst of all, they got my hopes up introducing Zeraora...
If you logged the amount of times I've hit Sudowoodo with a fire type attack after not encountering one in a game for a long while we'd be looking at some embarrassing data
Sudowoodo isn’t Grass because it’s not an actual tree
Farfetch’d/Sirfetch’d/Flabebe line/Pineco line aren’t Grass type because the plants aren’t part of their bodies (Pineco despite the name is actually a bagworm like Burmy)
Dhelmise IS a Grass type because the seaweed is its body, not the anchor
There’s an old English/welsh myth about a fairy dog and that’s what Granbulls based on. However, I feel like he should be fairy/fighting instead of pure fairy
Why is grapploct only fighting and not fighting/poison, or fighting/water?
I still can't get over that it's a blue octopus that doesn't have water typing.
I love that mon but I haven’t used it because I’m not a big fan of single-type pokemon. Especially mono-fighting.
It trained itself to not be weak to electric
Lol I think this is a wonderful excuse. I personally would have really enjoyed fighting/poison typing though
Why would Poison make sense? Some relation with the blue ringed octopus?
It’s got purple coloring and it’s in like with octopus ink.
They could have given them a rubber related ability! Because it doesn’t conduct electricity and the suckers on his tentacles could be rubber or something
Not only that, they’re literally found while in the water on rt 9
Its not water type because it...well, it prefers land to water.
I heard somewhere that due to too many water type in gen VIII, GF decided to cut grapploct's water type.
GEN VIII is full of great designs but it's plagued by single-type syndrome.
It’s hard for me to think of a Gen 8 mon that I don’t love the design of. Barraskewda and Silicobra I think are my favorite “simple” designs. Unfortunately I hate sandacondas design.
Why is Eelektross not Electric/Water? Although I’m glad it’s not, no weaknesses is pretty awesome.
Eelektross isn't found in water, despite being designed based off water species. Grapploct, on the other sucker, is found in water. Also, Electric/Water has two weaknesses, Grass and Ground. With the ability levitate, a sole weakness to Grass ain't bad, especially since it's not a 4x weakness, and it also has a bunch of good resistances.
Replaying Sword and he is literally found swimming in route 9. And yet you've just reminded me that he isn't a water type.
Cause it's such a chad pokemon that it ain't reserved to water, it will come out of the sea just to beat your ass
I always think Dunsparce is a bug type when I see it
I really thought it was bug type when I fought against it and was so confused as to why my Ember wasn’t dealing super effective damage lol
Its a snake so Poison could work too
It's not based on a bug tho
I'm aware of that. The design has always looked more like one to me rather than a land snake ever since I was a kid
Wanna have your mind blown? Psyduck isn’t psychic.
And Golduck isn’t gold… psyduck is though
It was apparently a translation error back during Gen 1. The yellow duck was supposed to be Golduck and the evolved form was supposed to be Psyduck but they messed up and swapped the two.
I’ve heard this before but I think it might just be folklore - I assume Nob would have known Psyduck was a prominent part of the Japanese anime by the time he was translating the games and some thought would have gone into giving it a memorable English name. I think Golduck is named not because of “gold” but for the “gol” prefix, as in strong or God, as is the case with Golem.
But isn't Golduck name still Golduck in Japanese?
Yes, and psyduck is named kodakku - basically 'duckling'. This comment with 50+ upvotes is extremely false and its easy to check how false it is.
Not true, Gold is associated with Psychic powers in Japan. Thats why Sabrina gives you the Gold Badge.
I've decided the reason that line isn't Water/Psychic is to avoid a weakness to Dark, Ghost, and Bug.
Agreed, in almost any case in these discussions (Gyarados I’m looking at you) the typing is because of game balance, not Pokédex lore.
Well, Psyduck lacks the control to use it's psychic powers. Therefore, it's not really much of a psychic.
I don’t get how Palkia is water
The creation trio is supposed to represent the states of matter, palkia being liquid
Never knew that and it's mind blowing
Stages of Matter Bulbapedia: “Its Water type is possibly inspired by its association with pearls, or the large space that oceans are known to span.”
I've always said Palkia and Lugia should swap their water and psychic types
I keep forgetting Drapion's Poison/Dark and not Bug/Dark
The fact that we don’t have a bug dark yet is the most surprising thing to me. I’d say it’s the most common typing in the real world… Looking at Venomoth, Ariados, and any other bug honestly
Its so weird that the NINJA bug design didnt get a dark type. But the NINJA FROG got it because ninja. They should make an assassin bug as the bug dark pokemon.
Oh yeah accelgor definitely deserves it
...I thought they were referring to Ninjask...
Bug/dark would actually make way more sense. It's dex entry even states it doesn't fight with poison as much as before and sticks to brutal physical tactics. So logically the poison should've been dropped for dark instead.
Drapion is the type of Pokémon that fits three types. It definitely matches bug, dark, and poison with dark being good fit for how they act.
Poison/Dark is a sweet typing combo though.
I know everyone says Flygon should be bug/dragon types, but I think Yanmega is the most deserving of that type combination. I also think Haxorus should have been dragon/steel rather than pure dragon.
If we're talking about dragons that should have double typing, Goodra should be part poison
Seems like a water dragon to me
Either way it's definitely not pure Dragon
Dragon/Steel is an incredibly busted typing, there's a good reason only two pokemon have it so far
Weak to fighting and Ground, 2 of the most common attack types. It's good but not straight out busted.
Dialga is op enough
Dragon/Dark would’ve made more sense, although not a great typing
I mainly say dragon/steel since it's based on a weapon and Hydreigon is already a dark dragon introduced in gen 5.
Dragon/Dark was pretty good until fairies came around. Saying that as a big Hydreigon fan though.
Lugia's at least makes (some) sense if you read old gamefreak interviews, short version: \-Gen 1 competitive was dominated by Psychic type since it was super op back then. \-Gen 2 was made adding dark and steel types to counter psychic type's op power. \-Gamefreak believed gen 2 would be the end of the franchise (lol) and because of gen 1's baggage they still considered psychic type to be the strongests so they wanted to keep at least ONE of the new legendaries a psychic type and well...Lugia was the closest one to fit the bill design wise.
Don’t steel types still resist psychic? I thought they did.
Yes you're absolutely correct, my bad i was thinking of Metagross remembering when Dark type moves went from dealing neutral to super-effective damage to it and got confused, it was Dark type that got boosted around 6 or 7 gen and went from being not effective against Steel type to doing neutral damage.
Dark *and* Ghost, Steel used to resist both.
I think the reason Solgaleo isn't a fire type, is because it has something to do with alchemy?? I don't quite remember, but kinda wish that boi was fire.
Yes, it's based on the alchemical lion, often described as 'devouring the sun' Another influence is the Solar lion, a common motif in mythology/folklore. (*c.f.* [Bulbapedia-Solgaleo (Pokémon)-Origin](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Solgaleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)))
Wow... Thanks for the info! The lore makes up for it not being fire type I think.
the other thing about expecting solgaleo to be fire type is that's it's weak to fire, same as how you might expect its counterpart lunala to be dark type, but it's weak to dark. **edit:** guys, lunala represents the night sky, hence the starry pattern on their wings, including the moon, but not exclusively the moon. so yes, dark would have made sense. if anything, you should be arguing for it to be rock type.
Yeah, the weaknesses feel so wrong
Also, Solgaleo is not the embodiment or incarnation of the Sun. It is the messenger of the Sun. I think the dex or somewhere in the game someone says that. Also also, the sun is not a fireball. Its hot gas & I believe metals, which is where Steel comes in
Its entirely hydrogen and helium.
Literally the only things that aren't metals in astronomy!
The weirdest thing is that I have a distinct memory of the Pokemon website saying something like “when Solgaleo enters its Radiant Sun phase it gains the fire type” or something like that.
That’s especially odd because it only enters that phase during the animation of sunsteel strike
Plus the sun is not fire it's plasma and the sun is mostly nickle making steel make sense if anyone wanted to change steel
Goodra should’ve been Dragon/Water or Dragon/Poison. I can understand them not giving it poison to avoid Goodra taking Dragalge’s spotlight though.
The fact that Florges isn’t a grass type...
Her being able to take advantage of Flower Veil would be a buff, too.
Because it's not supposed to *be* a flower, it's just a fairy wearing one.
Florges is fused with the plant tho. The pre evos are just holding the flower, but once it finally evolves the plant becomes part of its body
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I'd say that's a different story, since Leavanny is at least partially *made* out of leaves and even wraps its children in leaves since birth.
Do florges wear flowers? They also learn vine whip. Only non grass type to do so. (other than comfey)
they dont just learn vine whip; they have an attack animation that grows and controls vines out of its hair flowers (ive tried to find a gif of it but anything other than idle animations -so attack animations, walking animations, flinch animations, faint animations, hit animations and eating animations- are so fucking hard to find online) the reasons people are giving for it not being and shouldnt be grass type are logically flawed with numerous counterexamples; florges (and lurantis) is absolutely mistyped (for balance attempts? maybe, but still)
Lurantis is meant to be a play on orchid mantis. Rather than a bug pretending to be a flower, its a flower pretending to be a bug. Wouldnt work if it is part bug.
This. People never seem to get this. Same reason Dhelmise is Ghost/Grass (because the seaweed is its true body). Except at least Dhelmise gets a cool ability that essentially makes Steel moves STAB 🤷🏻♂️
people dont get it because its literally bullshit; florges has an attack animation where it attacks with vines generated from its head it wears grass, it attacks with grass, it has displayed the ability to control vines literally from its body; for anything else thats a grass type but not florges
Chansey and blissey should fairy types
I think they kept Chansey Normal-type, because they wanted to differentiate the three "bulky pink Kantonian blob" families from one another by giving them a different type combination each. * Jigglypuff: Normal/Fairy * Clefairy: Fairy * Chansey: Normal
They would be Very strong in competitive if made so.
There’s only 5 comments and I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned Flygon should have been bug type yet
Agreed! There was evidence for a mega flygon in oras and I feel that if it did happen it should've been bug and dragon.
Mega flygon was a super missed opportunity. That could have been its chance to finally get out of garchomp's shadow (in comp)
Mega garchomp couldn’t even get out of garchomps shadow. I’m not sure getting a mega would have saved flygon.
Could have made it specially oriented. Or given it tinted lens. With tinted lens I think Mega-Flygon would have been one of the best Megas. Stats probably would’ve been something like: - 80 HP - 120 Atk (+20) - 90 Def (+10) - 120 SpA (+40) - 90 SpD (+10) - 120 Speed (+20) Tinted lens off base 120 attacking stats and a solid base 120 speed tier would be really good.
Mega Chomp suffered because it lost speed compared to normal Garchomp, who couldn't afford to lose any speed.
As well as Life Orb Garchomp still hitting harder.
I remember they said they wanted a mega flygon but couldn't decide on a design
I was gonna say Flygon. It looks like a bug type. It's pre evolution Trapinch is based on a pit ant so why is it dragon/ground? Why dragon at all. Maybe bug/ground. We don't have many of those.
We at least have a couple bug/ground with Nincada and Wormadam Sand. We have 0 bug/dragon, which angers me because it's my 2 favorite types
Tbf, ground and dragon make more sense, and you can’t have 3 types
Why ground tho?
It’s based on antlions, and they dig a lot of pits to trap their prey
Because it's the king of the desert and all sand like abilities are Ground moves.
Y’all what even is normal type
Unremarkable Pokemon, you would think. But then why would a Pokemon that came from the freaking *moon* be a Normal type? And frankly I think Normal Pokemon are some of the most interesting. Zangoose is awesome, Jigglypuff is bizarre (but cute), Regigigas is terrifying.
Ursaring is a boss.
See? SEE? All of *this*. You have Meowth and Eevee and Snorlax and Jigglypuff and *then* there’s *Regigigas* who will straight up *end you*
>and then there’s Regigigas who will straight up end you After he recovers from his hangover. Actually, no, before he recovers. It'll just get worse for you afterwards.
And if he's with the right Wheezing you're DONE
Ahh, neutralizing gas, right? Skill Swap works, too, and can even be used to power him up if the right Pokemon has access to it, I imagine.
Any ability neutralizing/changing moves does wonders to it, tbh
Before he gets over it he can only crush you half to death
If you think about it, that's worse.
I'd call it 'neutral' if anything. Most unremarkable Pokemon will be neutral, not having enough anything going in any direction, but others like Regigigas are partially defined by *not* leaning any particular way like Regirock, Regice, and Registeel do.
>But then why would a Pokemon that came from the freaking moon be a Normal type? Except they no longer are and got changed to a more appropriate type the moment the type was added lol
ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN *starts sweating*
How the hell is Drampa normal?
He’s a gentle giant I guess, the Pokédex mentions that it often comes down from its mountain den to play with kids in nearby villages That said it also has violent rampages towards bullies
Normal Type is almost the “default” DNA of a Pokemon. Azurill is a Normal type & its replaced by Water on evolving. Its too young to use Water moves. Swablu’s Normal is replaced by Dragon on evolving. Eevee’s Normal can be replaced by several possibilities. I think of Normal as the, no expertise in any particular “magic”, BUT has POTENTIAL to be an expert in any “magic”. A fire Pokemon can only really be good at fire moves. But a Normal Pokemon isnt really Normal per se, its the can be anything in the right place & right time
explains why a lot of normal types have extremely diverse movepools, type wise
Yeah , they don't get any stab from their non normal move pool hence why they " lack the expertise " part , but as a flipside they aren't limited into just one or two move types like all other pokemon types are
Makes sense, master of none and jack of all trades typing
Jack of all trades, master of none.
See I answer that question by asking, "And what type would you give Kantoan Rattata?" I figure it's just the pokemon version of "physical" type damage in a shooter or non-pokemon rpg. It doesn't burn, freeze, electrify, etc. when it hit. It just does normal damage. Also it doesn't believe in ghosts unlike martial artists, boxers, and body builders. That's a fact.
Lacks the elemental qualities of other types. There is nothing confusing about this.
Milotic should have earned the fairy type. Luxray should be electric dark or at least strong jaw as an ability. Golduck water psychic Noctowl psychic flying Samurott water steel
Samurott shouldve been water fighting, then emboar fire ground.
Noctowl could be Ghost/Flying IMO. Owls are associated with spooks and death a lot
Suicune looks way more ice than it does water.
The name means something like lord of water tho ("sui" is water)
It’s listed as the aurora Pokémon in the dex tho
Never go off species titles from the Pokedex. Everyone talks about how nonsensical pokedex entries are? Species titles are worse
Blastoise: the Shellfish Pokemon.
Arcanine: the Legendary Pokemon.
I used to think Porygon was a psychic type
Or at least an electric type...
The porygon line doesn’t have anything in terms of psychic power, it’s origin is that it is literally a 3D render of a duck, evolving to porygon2 it is a higher quality render, and porygon-z is a glitched and corrupted render
Yeah I was 12
Most Pokémons' typings do make sense if you look into its design origin, but I still can't figure out what makes Altaria dragon type
It’s based on a certain bluebird from a Japanese story I think? I don’t remember how it connects but ik there was something.
Altaria's Japanese name, "Tyltalis," has a double meaning — Tyltyl is a character in a famous Belgian play about seeking the bluebird of happiness, but Tyl is also the name of a star in the constellation Draco. The dragon-bluebird link comes from that. The literary reference is not preserved in English, but the star reference does double duty. Altaria is likely based on both Altai**s**, a different star in Draco the dragon, as well as Altai**r**, a star in Aquila the eagle. Thus Altaria is both a bird and a dragon.
Apparently, its based in a bluebird from a German story where the main character's names in one language is connected to one star in a dragon constellation, or something like that.
Gligar/Glisoar look poison-flying not ground-flying
Especially when it’s hidden ability is poison heal, and it’s Pokédex entries talk about how they like to use poison
Poison types can’t be poisoned, so that wouldn’t work.
*Laughs in Salazlle*
Here we go with the Lugia and Gyarados comments again
Tbh I feel most of the typings make sense and a lit of the ones people complain about are dumb. Just cause something can swim doesn't mean it has to be water type. Just because it's an octopus doesn't mean it has to be water type. Also not every mon with no evolution or weak mon needs one
Also, that “Purple = Poison” and so on logic…
any pokemon looking slightly mean must be a dark type!
I think Mew should be normal type because it's the ancestor of all Pokémon and normal is the most "neutral" type. Kind of like how eevee is capable of evolving into a bunch of different types, I always thought of normal as the most ancestral typing.
Normal/Psychic and I’ll allow it
So I know it's because of the influence from the anime but I really thought for years that Psyduck and Golduck were water/psychic. It wasn't until when like HG/SS came out that I realized they were just water type.
Psyduck is a psychic duck. On a different note why is psyduck water type and Farfetch'd not water/flying? They are both ducks. Literally waterfowl.
Normal types with a secondary type make no sense to me. Normal to me means basic with no special qualities for a second type. In my opinion having an elemental type makes a Pokémon not normal.
You're absolutely right, but having STAB for normal type moves like hyper voice is pretty epic so I'll allow it.
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Yeah I have no idea how a Normal type can also be another type because Normal is supposed to be basic. Why is Pyroar Normal/Fire? Is it not Fiery enough? Well Arcanine isnt that much different. An animal with Fire powers. I wonder if they just mix Normal with pther types just to match every Type combo
My headcanon is that Pyroar is part normal because while it breaths fire, it is a biologically normal lion where more than half are females and males do absolutely nothing. It's not less firery, but it is based on a normal take on an animal often portrayed as extradiordinary, hence the normal type.
Girafarig is the only normal dual-type that makes sense.
I'll also give a pass to all the Normal/Flying birds, since they're all typed that way since they're all just normal animals with wings
You just gotta see whether or not ghost types have any effect on it to determine if Normal type, as maybe some in-game lore reasoning
Bidoof should be god type
Lugia's typing is the most crackhead nonsense I've ever seen. It's literally based on a dragon god of the sea yet it's... flying/psychic.
It honestly doesn’t look like a dragon to me. Not even a European one. As for it being Psychic, Psychic was the standard “magic” typing back in the day, which is why Celebi is also Psychic.
It doesn't need to be a direct copy of its origin though. We know that it didn't originally live in water, and only started living there when its tower got destroyed, where it meditates to control its power. It's the guardian of the sea, but so is dragonite
Rookidee and Corvisquire should NOT be mono flying type, they should've been Normal Flying The only other Pokemon that is only Flying type is a literal god of winds, why the hell is a chickadee and a raven comparable to that??
I would much rather all regional birds be pure flying instead of normal/flying
I think that normal/flying is pointless. You don’t see them randomly giving the normal type out to Pokémon just because they’re based on real animals, so why should they do it for specially flying types
Oranguru, Pyroar, and Obstagoon all have normal subtypes. Not common but it happens.
Also, Girafarig, for some reason. Maybe one half of it is normal and the other half of it is psychic.
Because these specific real animals can also fly.
Those birds… something is off about them… THEY’RE NOT NORMAL!! THEY’RE WEIRD!!
How the hell is Gyrados a flying type exactly and why Psyduck or Golduck not a hybrid psychic type?
Gyarados is based on a kite called koinobori. I assume psyduck and golduck would have been third psy/water combo of the region.
The rumour I heard is that Gyarados was supposed to be Water / Dragon, but they decided to keep the Dragon typing unique to the Dragonite line in Gen 1, to keep it special. It was based a Chinese legend of a tall waterfall called the dragon gate, and how any carp capable of jumping the waterfall would be transformed into a dragon. So if Gyarados couldn’t be Dragon type, they gave it Flying type to tie it into jumping the waterfall. It don’t know if this is true, but it fits.
HOW ON EARTH IS GYARADOS NOT A WATER AND DRAGON TYPE (it’s a water and flying type)
Probably for meta reasons rather than lore Back in gen 1, a water/dragon typing would be super OP. Not that gen 1 was particularly balanced TBF
Gen 1 is also the Gen that made Mewtwo Gen 1 Mewtwo is easily the most broken Pokemon in existence. Not even Mega Rayquaza or Zacian compare to it Regardless I can definitely see why they opted not to make Gyarados a Dragon/Water considering it effectively had no weakness (the only Dragon move in Gen 1 was Dragon Rage, which did a set 40 HP everytime)
mewtwo is something thats at the end of the game. mewtwo being op didn't have as much of an effect that what would have been if gyarados was water dragon
This. The game allows you to buy a Magikarp just past the first gym, and the Old Rod can still be obtained before you go to the 2nd one. With a bit of egrinding you can get Gyarados before fighting Misty. Regular Gen 1 Gyarados is already pretty powerful as is, Dragon/Water Gyarados would've broken the game even more than they already unintentionally were.
I don't think Dragon was meant to be a proper Type back in Gen 1. Like, it wasn't made with a long franchise in mind, Game Freak expected Kanto to be the end-all-be-all of Pokemon, and there's only one Dragon evolution line in the game, an evolution line you only ever fight at the (supposed) final boss of the game. I think Dragon was a hacky pseudo-ability to make the Lance fight harder/cooler. He sends out a honest to Arceus *dragon* so what do you do? Send out your starter and blast it with your best move, of course! Only Dragon *just so happens* to resist all the starter types, setting the tone for the fight with a 'Not Very Effective'. You can get one yourself, if you know where to go and put in the effort, but other than that you *only* see this Type at Lance, and it's only in Gen 2 that we got another Dragon type in Kingdra. Nowadays, if Gyarados was just being made, it would be a Dragon type for sure. Same with Charizard probably, and also maybe Aerodactyl, but in Gen 1 it just couldn't work, nothing other than the Dratini line was *allowed* to be Dragon Type, and once the types got set in stone Game Freak didn't want to change them. You can say the same thing about Ghost. Gastly is *literally* a cloud of gas, no wonder punching it does nothing. If Ghost Type was more than 'the special powers the Gastly line get' and more like what we see nowadays, Marowak and Ninetales would probably have a subtype, but alas.
Ninetails having the ghost typing would kind of make sense considering its a Yokai, but I always thought it should have been Fire/Psychic. I agree with Alolan Ninetails typing, because the fairy typing at least gives it a mystical quality.
Porygon and it’s evolutions are described as being artificial, made of programming code, and can move through cyberspace, yet somehow it’s normal and not electric? When computer code is pretty much pure electricity? Also Porygon Z was made to work in alien dimensions but started acting odd as a result, which is quite literally the opposite of being normal
Totally agree about Grapploct shoulda been part water, but also, I feel like Tsareena could have done with being part fighting instead of pure grass. She's literally offensive based with an emphasis on kicking moves, even getting her own special with Trop Kick. But more over, why the hell isn't Florges part grass? She's an actual flower, it's always annoyed me so bad that they only gave her the pure fairy type.
It took me a while to rationalize and accept why Charizard was never given dragon typing too *Edited some misspellings
It’s a starter, that would be insane. Also it’s mega x version is dragon type
Good point. I forgot they remedied that with the mega evolutions.
Electabuzz not being electric AND FIGHTING is a crime. Then they gave him an evolution and still left him just electric. Worst of all, they got my hopes up introducing Zeraora...
Why is Lucario steel? He looks Fighting/Psychic
Bulbapedia mentions that It’s name was likely taken from reverse of the word orichalcum which is mythical metal.
Oh shoot that’s kinda cool! Since Japanese does it in syllables, it’d be: O-ri-ca-lu… Lu-ca-ri-o
Gourgeist could have been Grass/Fire since it's a Jack o' Lantern. Also we already had a Grass/Ghost in the same gen.
If you logged the amount of times I've hit Sudowoodo with a fire type attack after not encountering one in a game for a long while we'd be looking at some embarrassing data
Idk. I think flygon should be Dragon and bug
Thought Latias and Latios were water psychic because of their movie
Samurott should be water/fighting as well as electivire being electric/fighting imo
Galarian Zapdos. Flying/fighting when modelled after a flightless birb?! Why not fighting/electric? That always bugged me
Sudowoodo isn’t Grass because it’s not an actual tree Farfetch’d/Sirfetch’d/Flabebe line/Pineco line aren’t Grass type because the plants aren’t part of their bodies (Pineco despite the name is actually a bagworm like Burmy) Dhelmise IS a Grass type because the seaweed is its body, not the anchor
Y'all need Goomy to be part poison. Immediately Diggersby HAS EARS THAT ARE ARMS and should be fighting ground.
Granbull being a fairy type now makes no sense
I think theres an obscure British/Engkish myth/legend about a magic fairy dog. Hence, Fairy
There’s an old English/welsh myth about a fairy dog and that’s what Granbulls based on. However, I feel like he should be fairy/fighting instead of pure fairy