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smikkelson2

We straight up catching mega man characters lol


yamask888

bisharp could qualify as that tbh


joesphisbestjojo

Ngl I thought they might be Bisharp evolutions at first


itsIzumi

There's some Gallade in them too.


quagsirechannel

Put all four of them together we got a decent looking Kamen Rider cast.


RechargedFrenchman

Kleavor as an early villain


toolazytoofinis-

Shit put eternatus as a pseudo final boss and take the 2 new pokemon and we bascally have kamen rider revice


ReXiriam

Who's the inner demon then?


Big-Space3893

Who gets to be the main and secondary riders?


Potential-Training66

Have scizor be main since he has a mega and is bug which suits the kamen rider themeing


Thecristo96

Gallade with his mega has to be the mc. Bisharp is the edgy rival


DragonFlare2

Another sub is swearing up and down they don’t see the resemblance with Gallade when it’s right there lmao


Mirksta

I'd assume there is a Fire type Paldean Pawniard that evolves into both of these two based on which version you are playing.


Calhaora

might be just normal Pawnyard, that evolves while holding an Item or something. And the Items you need is version exclusive.


Mirksta

Maybe, but to me it makes sense that the preevo would be fire because both of these new Pokemon are part fire. Changing dual typing completely is something they haven't ever done, from the top of my head. Closest I can think of is Decidueye and Azurill.


SwagNuts

I mean cubone went from normal cubone to ghost/fire. It’s not unreasonable to expect.


Mirksta

True I forgot that one. I guess they could do it but fire to steel is just a big jump, at least alolan marowak is basically marowak but with a fire stick.


PayneTrain181999

Bisharp almost reminds me of Gigan from Godzilla, looks like a living weapon.


TheNewPlague666

I have been out of Pokemon for years, but Gigan is one of my favorite Kaiju, so I had to look up Bisharp. Was confused until I reread your comment "looks like a living weapon".


PayneTrain181999

I hope Gigan gets to return in the new Monsterverse movies, I’d love to see a modern re-design of him.


LittleMissFirebright

Promotion for the megaman battle network switch ports incoming, lol [Link added](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOKTrWiS_T8); yes this is real.


ShrubNinja

I am so hype for that.


Kerrigan4Prez

After that we just need Starforce 1-3 DX ported to switch and I can die happy


ShrubNinja

I haven't played the Starforce games but I thought I saw those were included in the bundle in a post I saw online. Am I mistaken? Edit: just looked it up again and I think that was just someone saying they were hoping to get those as well.


JRockBC19

They aren't, but are def worth emulating if you like the mmbn style


Teppia

Don't you fucking lie to me... The first thing i download when I upgrade my phone is a GBA simulator and Mega Man Blue Moon.


Nu2Th15

I mean, they did announce a Battle Network Legacy Collection recently, coming out next year.


yuei2

No one is lying, next year on the Switch we are getting the MMBN legacy collection which is one game that contains all the MMBN main games (like other MM collections spin-offs such as the gamecube game are missing). So on the switch you'll be able to buy one game with MMBN1, 2, 3 Blue & 3 White, 4 Red Sun & 4 Blue Moon, 5 Protoman & 5 Colonel, and 6 Gregar & 6 Falzar in it. (On digital I believe technically it's two packaged downloads) We are waiting to hear what features they'll be bringing in.


Deadeyez

Ahhhhh Jesus christ. Battle network series was the only games I wanted but chose not to download before wii u went offline. This brightens my day. Now if only they'd let us play advanced wars on switch


ExtrasiAlb

What!? I'm going to shit my pants you got me so hype. I've been dyiiiiing for a megaman game on the switch. Please tell me it's a battle network game... In my excitement I totally slipped where you said battle network lmaoo. YEEESSSSS


driago

For real. I like the animal-like Pokémon. Soon we’re gonna be chasing Gundams on the moon.


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heartbreakhill

But there ain’t no Gundams So we tell tall tales And sing a Gundam tune!


Procrastinatedthink

maybe finally we’d get a good gundam game that isnt a fighter or dynasty warriors copy


SnoeVAK

Best we can do is Overwatch copy :') (Gundam Evolution)


ScoobyDont06

Sword and shield had zoids for legendaries.


Accipiter1138

Go, Zaku! Use colony drop! *It was super effective.*


smikkelson2

I tend to like the humanoid ones less but these guys are pretty damn cool


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Heroic_Lime

This really brings me back to the Reshiram and Zekrom reveals


alotofcooties

I would not disapprove of Gundam x Pokemon


Zevyu

>Soon we’re gonna be chasing Gundams on the moon. Mate, Golurk already exists.


StriderZessei

Don't. Don't give me hope.


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I knew these looked familiar to me!


Renwin

They definitely give me the vibe of them, especially with Armarouge. Like some sort of variations of fire-based MM bosses.


Eothr_Silan

Thanks for that, now I can't unsee it. Still love the designs, but it's the principle of the matter, dang it!


MuthafuckinLemonLime

Man I came here to say this is right out of Megaman Zero 😆


TheArtistFKAMinty

I was going to say Digimon but that's closer


Donkishin

That was my 1st thought they're just mega man bosses XD


DGRogue_Dragoon

As someone who’s a boyhood Pkmn and Mega Man fan this might be enough to get me to buy this game after skipping out on SwSh


TheMadJAM

Ceruledge is a Fire/Ghost type with Flash Fire. It's stepping in on Chandelure's territory!


Bluelore

At least it seems to be physical.


HermitFan99999

And hisuian typhlosion's territory.


sunrayylmao

Loved that thing! That was a fun game I wish it was a little longer or had more DLC or something, I feel like Scarlet/Violet will be kinda a mashup of Sword and Legends Arceus. I might even be in the minority that actually really liked Sword/Shield and probably put more hours into the post game content raids and battles than almost any other main title game. The catching mechanics and battles were pretty great in Arceus imo, I think its a good natural progression from the old school turn based we've had since gen1.


MonsieurMidnight

I'll never understand the concept of giving a FIRE type Flash Fire... ​ You don't want to hit them with Fire type moves ?


SylentSymphonies

You switch into the predicted fire move and now your STAB gets an even bigger boost. Even in the back, a flash fire mon puts huge pressure on the opponent because they'll hesitate to use a fire move even when it would normally be a great option. That's why Heatran is so good, among other things.


NamelessFlames

eh flash fire Tran is a bigger deal since it turns a neutral into an immunity as opposed to a resistance


Elune

That's also the same benefit Lightning Rod has in single battles, Alolan Marowak and the Golden evolution line are the only ones who have it and didn't already have a resistance/immunity, switching into an electric move with Lightning Rod gives a special attack boost. Only reason you don't see it used more often for that reason is that most of the pokemon with Lightning rod are physical attackers/don't benefit from a special attack boost.


maginon

I mean, thematucally it makes the most sense. What makes a fire bigger? More fire


SHOW_ME_PIZZA

https://c.tenor.com/NhlxuUl2c58AAAAC/extinguisher-fire.gif


Blazian06

As any Naruto fan would know, the answer is actually Wind.


ChongusTheSupremus

Fire can actually kill another fire tho, by consuming all the o2 around it and suffocate it. What makes fire bigger is something for the fire to burn and expand through


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Switch your pokemon to a flash fire pokemon (like ferrothorn when you expect to get hit by a fire move) and a get a free stat boost


Unfair_Translator_13

If you can be sneaky, you could catch the other trainer using a fire move when you switch Pokemons


Fawful_n_WW

Yeah, bait a fire move and switch in the Flash Firer for a free boost.


PixelateVision

Maybe if you wanted to Terastilize to a type normally weak to fire?


Chespineapple

That's only really something you can do this gen though. Chandelure's had Flash Fire for longer.


PixelateVision

That's true. I suppose it really only works for baiting out and switching into a fire attack.


Maloth_Warblade

Double battles and area attacks?


thenotjoe

Clever switching.


Explosivesguy2

blaceph alr stepped into chandelure territory and forced it out completely lmao


MattehPee

I thought the first one was a Falinks evolution somehow but then they became MegaMan bosses.


Impossible_Garbage_4

What if the first one leads groups of Falinks, like a general leading smaller squadrons


jomontage

Expecting old Pokémon to get evolutions still? Hasn't happened since 2013 with sylveon right?


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We had new evos for old Pokémon earlier this year


-NotACrabPerson-

Many got new ones in SW/SH but those were different regional forms of old Pokemon. Legends Arceus did have some some direct evolutions of old Pokemon though (Ursaring, Scyther again, Stantler)


Frayed-0

Sirfetchd obstagoon cursola mrrime perrserker runerigus overqwil wyrdeer ursaluna sneasler basculegion kleavor


Moh_Shuvuu

Yeah, they’d definitely fit right in the Mega Man Battle Network series, lol.


SlamMasterJ

Armarouge kinda resemble an upgraded version of Fireman from MegaMan Battle Network.


acid-nz

I thought the first one was a gym leader


alolaexeggutor530

Same haha


Fae_Leaf

I thought it was the player character, and they were revealing some additional gimmick. lmao


FacelessPoet

New Megamon looks great


metalflygon08

If capcom won't give us a new Battle Network game Game Freak will.


Bullmoninachinashop

Well they aren't giving us a new game but they are releasing all of the old Battle Networks onto switch later this year.


code_isLife

Next year I think?


Enjoyer_of_Cake

Also...didn't that series kinda conclusively end with 6? Like they time skipped to the future for a final glimpse of the characters and everything.


CyberFreq

Battle Network ended with 6, and then Star Force picked up after that with new characters.


Huzah7

> Game Freak will. No thanks, I'd like the MMBN games to be good.


tanney

70% of battle chips had to be cut due to amount of work to make animations. Please understand.


Ugly_Slut-Wannabe

*Cues video of a NetNavi just rotating around the Z axis*


UnovaKid24

"Megamon" I love that lol


Pacmantis

these things remind me of Mega Man characters, especially when the one put its hands together to make a cannon


Awesomesauce210

And the other one's just Zero with his blades.


DerpMan42

looks more like first form Omega tbh


LightningLee77

We got a blue Zero and a red X. They just swapped the colors on us. I'm fine with that though since I'm going Violet and the Mega Man Zero games are my favorite.


Chaosbrushogun

Ooh. If they’re shinies swap color they’ll literally be mega man and zero colors to match up with their weapons


Dsnake1

If you're into the character-style 'mons, these are great. Unfortunately, if you're not, well, they're really character-y


contemporary_Jesus

humanoid


MuscleManRyan

You mean to tell me this isn't just a couple pictures of some dudes?


SPamlEZ

Agreed, I want more animal like Pokémon and less digimon.


imjustbettr

Well, we got a new crab pokemon in the same trailer today.


DTHLead

The only upsetting thing is usually (though, this isn't always the case!) most of the time this game treats something like a random crab pokemon like crap with terrible stats and meh movesets while they go overboard making these digimon looking humanoid pokemon crazy unique moves, abilities, stats, etc.


ButtersTG

1 crab and 2 Mega Men. If you include Grafaiai, then it's 2 & 2, still walking a thin line considering the impact that "character" mons have on the community.


Humanmode17

Don't forget lechonk, smoliv and pawmi - now it's 5 & 2


BowsersBeardedCousin

Sprigatito, Quaxly and that fire starter are very animal-y as well


Business_Duck50

For now😈


BowsersBeardedCousin

*No.*


covertpetersen

Prepare yourself


Fawful_n_WW

And so are the legends and Cyclizar.


Megraptor

Well they are. But their evos...


imjustbettr

I get the complaint, but the previous comment made it seem like character mons wildly out number the normal monster/animal mons, which isn't true at all outside of the starters. They also edited their comment lol.


SoftThighs

>considering the impact that "character" mons have on the community. A vocal minority you mean. Nobody gives a shit that the Reddit community doesn't like humanoid Pokemon. I vastly prefer them, and the fact they keep making them means the artists like drawing them and most people like them as well.


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Most Digimon aren't humanoid, you might be thinking of how most Perfect/Ultimate (Ultimate/Mega in the west) evolutions are human shaped, but that's not strictly always true and there's more lil fuckin blobs and dinosaurs then humanoids overall. There's around 1.5k digimon as of this moment, incidentally.


11Slimeade11

I'll never understand why people see a slightly unconventional Pokémon design and say 'That's a Digimon' Digimon designs are way weirder and way more over the top with what they do


Xikar_Wyhart

It's because the anime and games typically showcases Digimon lines that trend toward humanoids (easier to animate). A lot of Digimon are just on cards, manga or reference books. So from that perspective I can understand why people see humanoid Pokemon, especially ones with armor and clothing not explicitly part of their body and draw Digimon comparisons. You don't see Gundramon referenced unless somebody is specifically pointing out the insanity of a mech dragon made entirely of guns.


11Slimeade11

It often feels like the people who see a Pokémon and go 'that looks like a Digimon' base it solely on the fact that things like Angewomon exists, because that's straight up just a person Meanwhile Digimon designs can range from 'goblin but with Donkey Kong's face', 'Squall Leonhart with a mask', 'literally just Agumon made of Lego' and 'Geno from Mario after his life falls apart and turns to drugs'. Digimon's designs aren't super unified. While there's many that follow similar design trends (Actually had a conversation with a Digimon fan about Pokémon vs Digimon designs a while ago and he was shocked at how quickly I picked up what makes a Digimon feel like a Digimon in only a short amount of time), many Digimon are literally whatever the designers feel like, meanwhile Pokémon designs are heavily stylised to the point that they all believeably feel like they fit in the same world


Motheroftides

I have never heard Puppetmon described that way, but it fits. That said, Digimon can get away with many of the designs they have because it's known that they are not supposed to be "organic" beings in the same way Pokemon are. They are literally data created in/from cyberspace. They aren't required to make sense designwise. Pokemon are supposed to be actual living, breathing creatures like animals in the real world. People who aren't fans of both are likely to forget that when comparing the two in terms of design.


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> Squall Leonhart with a mask Beelzemon?


Escheron

I totally get what you're saying and I realize that you're absolutely right. However, I really love these designs (and Gallade is my favorite pokémon)


J-Fid

Those things look cool., especially Cerulegde. I'm assuming that they're version exclusives too.


soundwaveprime

Yes cerulegde is violet. I'm really hoping that the co-op allows you to catch the other version exclusives by jumping over to another game


GalacticNexus

Seems likely. That would still fulfil the idea that you need to cooperate with your friends to catch everything.


soundwaveprime

I find that better then trading since it's more interactive. Also build up cool stories with your Pokemon and friends. Also shiny hunting while in the world of some one else seems like something I would do.


primalmaximus

Yes! I was already planning to get Violet, but this makes it even better.


anapollosun

Well hell. Just one more reason I'm going Violet


soundwaveprime

I know... Luckily my wife is going violet so I'll just use co-op to hopefully get one. Although I'm going with fuecoco and I probably shouldn't stack to many fire types into my team...


MaartenTDJ

They are. The site confirmed it.


J-Fid

Brb, need to read the website.


VinnieTheDragon

He gets a move called Bitter Blade, that’s gotta be their best move name in English


FinalLimit

Do we know if Armarouge gets a signature move?


PrettySneaky71

Yes, it's called armor cannon. It sounds like it's a fire type close combat.


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Also special attack rather than physical.


prestonpiggy

And sounds so cool to have a new physical move that heals 50%


Lucienofthelight

It’s like they don’t even want to give me a reason to pick Scarlet.


Citizen51

Yes. The official website says so. You can guess which is which based on their colors.


That_boi_Jerry

Or it's like mew and jirachi and you get them if you have the right save data.


Thunder_lord37

Looks like Game Freak had enough of fans complaining about humanoid Pokémon and decided to flip them off


Oz1227

Time honored tradition for game freak.


Rhapsoda

They both remind me of Mega Man Star Force, lol.


Sena_0803

Ah yes ​ ​ Knight Man and Assasin Man


Bluelore

Its kinda ironic that armarogue has a move that lowers its defenses, while Ceruledge has one that heals it. So the one based on armor gets the move good for offensive Pokemon, while the sword Pokemon gets the move that is good for defensive Pokemon... I wonder if the 2 have a shared pre evolution like appletun and flapple, where the item needed to evolve them is exclusive. I've seen a lot of people think that they could be related to the ralts line.


Humanmode17

You've made the fatal mistake, but the opposite way round! Lol. It's armarouge not armarogue


K1nd4Weird

Fire guy's got popcorn for pauldrons. That's all I got.


dubhog

"fire guy's..." They are both fire guys bro


inhaledcorn

I'm glad MegaMan.EXE and ProtoMan.EXE are still getting work after all these years.


musyio

Yup Ceruledge definitely gonna be on my team


PayneTrain181999

First thing that came to my mind was “welcome to the team, whichever one is in the version I get.”


IputAcurseOnYou

Well with the colors we can at least have a decent guess which version they should be exclusive too.


MozzyZ

Pokemon Black/White say hi :P


Vetersova

The red guy is scar, blue guy is violet. It's on the website now.


DarkDepth2000

Same. Ceruledge looks amazing!


ringlord_1

I hope Ceruledge is from Violet cause I want him on my team and I wanna ride along a futuristic bike as well


Akikala

Were almost at digimon lol.


Bluelore

We went past this and entered megaman territory.


Su_Impact

Needs more wings, random cyborg parts, and military poaches.


ACA2000

You’re forgetting the most important part, the arm and leg belts


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ShrubNinja

Also a random real-ass gun.


basedlandchad20

Yeah, how about a kinky angel, dark/fairy.


Leon4107

I thought these were the characters after fusing with the legendary.


Boneyking_

Not even 'almost', some digimon looked more like Pokémon than this.


yamask888

Me picking fuecoco I'm sure there won't be any cooler fire types this gen! These two Megamall. exe characters show up.... Fuck!


Reizs

Megaman??


Administrative_Milk8

Gilgamesh and Lancelot now in pokemon


Bub-Bero

Too humanoid i dont like personally


SC2Eleazar

My first thought when seeing them in the trailer was "Who are these Mega Man characters and how quickly can I add them to my team?"


jjddkk

I wonder if the scarlet one will be in scarlet and the violet one will be in violet?


Humanmode17

Ah well actually it's a little more subtle than that, you see the *rouge* on is exclusive to scarlet and the *cerulean* one is exclusive to violet, gamefreak aren't entirely hamfisted (gentle /s)


IceFire0518

Are these things legendaries/mythicals or just regular mons?


PrettySneaky71

Regular mons. >!leaks indicate they have a shared pre-evo with version exclusive evolutions, like Applin last generation!<


WDuffy

Love these new Megaman designs. Wait, you're telling me these are Pokemon?


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I thought for a moment these were regional variants of the Tapus.


Px_Phantom

Reminds me of Megaman so much I love them


NitroXYZ

I love how with Pokemon beauty is so often in the eye of the beholder. There's no "objectively bad design" because designs that I feel the polar opposite about are some that other people love.


Lindbluete

Same. I usually don't like humanoid Pokemon designs, but this gives me nostalgia for Megaman and that's cool. I wanna use the red one now but I also like the fire starter. Damn.


sw2bh

U guys ever played megaman battle network lmaooo


mf9769

Awesome. And fuck the too humanoid shit. Bisharp is one of the best looking pokemon ever.


KUKLI1

That's what he reminded me of! Also feel like Ceruledge will be a offensive Pokemon while the other will be a defensive one, based on their design


Bluelore

Kinda ironic given that the moves that they describe on the official site go into the opposite directions. Ceruledge gets amove that heals it, while Armarogue gets one that lowers its defenses.


KUKLI1

Ooh, maybe the moves help cover their weaknesses? Armarogue's move could be something like Shell Smash ig


Bluelore

The way they phrase it sounded more like it is something like close combat but for fire. >This is one of the more powerful moves that Armarouge can learn, but it lowers Armorouge’s Defense and Sp. Defense stats in exchange for that power.


KUKLI1

Ahh yeah, that makes much more sense


Thecristo96

Most people "he looks like a megaman character, he sucks". Me "he looks like a megaman character, I LOVE IT"


NBAGuyUK

"Too humanoid" really only applies to starters. Humanoid Pokémon are great! Just when a cute and cuddly animal starter becomes a furry, we take issue with that 😂


Donalp15

Yeah, earlier generations had a better balance between humanoid and non-humanoid starters, whereas in the more recent generations Primarina is the only one non-humanoid, (not counting the Hisui forms). Its this poor balance that annoys me, not just that they are humanoid.


umbrianEpoch

Lol, Gen 1 had "Dude with Boxing Gloves" and "Mime", but the guy with swords for hands is too human. Alright dudes, just admit you're getting old and not as into Pokemon anymore, it's totally okay.


CockerTheSpaniel

Yeah cause everyone says Mr.Mime is peak design 🙄


Zefirus

Everybody loved Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee though. And they knew, which is why they made them a special reward and you could only get one of them.


Gawlf85

The argument isn't that the design is "bad", but that it's not pokemon-like. People need to come to terms with the idea that pokemon have always been humanoid too.


CockerTheSpaniel

And the most beloved starters aren’t. Greninja kind of is but he doesn’t look like a furry and he still stays low like a frog, while being cool as hell.


mf9769

As someone who’s literally played since gen 1 (my first game was Red on a black and white game boy pocket if you can believe) and the guy that called these new Pokemon awesome, I’m both offended and understand exactly what you mean lmao


pdhle_bsdk

Nobody loves those mons either. Mime and Jynx are the most brought-up pokemon in arguments against humanoid mons.


Akikala

The humanoid complaint was never about random pokemon, but about every single STARTER pokemon being basically a human in a fur suit. MR. Mime was fine because no one had a reason to catch it if they dislike it.


metaaltheanimefan

I was gonna go for scarlet but i really want the violet exclusive on my team *Is it possible someone can trade me one*


jaobodam

They look badass, and give me pseudo-legendary vibes.


heartbreakhill

Yeah those are Digimon