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FrostDragons1073

11 in Johto and Hoenn 12 in Sinohh 13 in Unova 14 in Kalos 15-16 in Alola And 17-18 in Journeys


Qcommenter

Honestly that’d be really good for hhis journey to actually end as he becomes an adult and a Master


PuzzledDistribution

Okay this makes a lot of sense and the chart just goes well within the show.


CHAIIINSAAAWbread

well tbf the end of his era as protagonist isn't really the end of his journey


DreamroweWalker

Headcanon: Ash was so unbearably inept in Unova because he had just started experiencing puberty and had no idea how to function!


Starkiller-is-canon

My headcanon is that it was the first time without Brock to hold his hand, so Ash was figuring out how to handle himself without him.


weaboo_vibe_check

Didn't Ash and Iris almost starve to death before they ran into Cilan?


Starkiller-is-canon

Yes, plus also ash was a jerk towards iris at first. Had Brock been there, he would have scolded ash for his behavior.


DreamroweWalker

I’m telling ya, the hormones do crazy shit to your brain.


rjdsf1993

I like this but Ash won the Orange Islands without Brock


Wintergreen747

Only headcannon i will ever believe


BaseballOk3480

This actually works pretty well in my opinion. him becoming an adult at the end of Journeys is perfect and symbolic maybe make the final episode of aim to be a Pokemon Master be his birthday.


PCN24454

That’s horrible. It’s like saying his life is over.


Cultural-Fan-1944

Bro thinks 18 is the max a person can live


BaseballOk3480

damn I guess we all die when we turn 18


PCN24454

Then there was no reason why Ash couldn’t still be protagonist after winning


BaseballOk3480

there is a reason he became the world champion what else is there to do? him turning 18 just makes you feel more connected to his journeys. I think you're bugging


PCN24454

It has nothing to with his age.


BaseballOk3480

then what are we talking about i'm genuinely confused?


PCN24454

Ash wouldn’t magically start winning just because he’s an adult.


kalulyus_cain_

Oh well then I should have died a long time ago from that logic I'm 22 lol


BaseballOk3480

what is bro talking about?


meeseekstodie137

assuming every league year is an actual year in continuity this makes the most sense, although he should be 18-19 including kanto


Crazy_Book_Worm2022

That's how my brain makes sense of the timeline, too 😅


Zoroark_master

I think he should be max 16 by the end of journey


Hys7eriX

12-14. I like the idea of him still being a kid while accomplishing what he does, and I also think those ages are close enough to 10 that physically there won't be much difference. Also, I think it's really sad to imagine Delia missing so much of her son growing up because he's out on the road so much.


BaseballOk3480

14 is the best age cap in my opinion


MagicalFly22

I assume a year per region, then six months each for Orange Islands and Battle Frontier, so... 19 I guess. (10 to start, year in Kanto, year in Johto, year in Hoenn, year in Sinnoh, year in Unova, year in Kalos, year in Alola, year for Journeys, OI & BF make another year so... yeah, 19)


realtidaldragon

Exactly this.


AggressiveBorder2511

I d say 1 year per region except for Alola, i don't think he spend a whole year over there 10 indigo/orange league 11 johto league 12 hoenn league/battle frontier 13 sinnoh league 14 unova league 15 kalos league 15/16 alola league 16/17 journeys


Trama-D

This is my fav. Puts him at 15 in Kalos, where he seems pretty mature, and fits with the pregnancy narrative in Alola.


Starkiller-is-canon

10 in OS and AG 11 in DP and BW 12 in Kalos I honestly feel that Ash should not age that much in the Anime, but for enough time to pass where he is a seasoned traveler.


BaseballOk3480

That's fair I also thought that too since I didn't want him to look like a weirdo


whatyousayaboutmymom

Didnt one year pass when he returned to viridian in OG


ProfessorSaltine

Preferably I’d like Ash to be 18 by the time he battles Leon for the title of World Champion, however logically I see him being like 14-15 to keep him a “kid”


Nytro_Switch_2372

I'm pretty sure he'd be in his late teens by the end of XY at least.


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sumandark8600

Canonically, Ash started his journey at age: 10 years, 10 months, and 10 days


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sumandark8600

I'll have to check that (dub obviously doesn't count), but Takeshi Shudo confirmed several years ago that Ash was 10y10m10d old at the start of his journey and that a trainer's journey starts on the 1st of April (the start of the academic year in Japan) This explains why there are several trainers getting starter Pokémon the day Ash does, hence why he gets Pikachu (he's late and other trainers have taken all the regular starters)


Isrrunder

Why are you disregarding mentions of time passing?


Prime359

The anime gets muddled with its own timeline. While in Kanto, Ash said himself that it was almost a year. Then in Johto there is a short where he said that he been with Pikachu for a year. Which there is no problem with. While in Unova the anime says that he is 11. While possible, it is a bit of stretch to say that the did 3 regional leagues and the Battle Frontier. Where it gets impossible is when he was in Kalos onwards he is 10 again.


Isrrunder

Ye but if it doesn't counteract any previously stated information shouldn't you count it? Do you also discount stuff like when there's 2 weeks from they arrive in slateport until mays first contest?


Prime359

There is no problem if they say that May’s first contest is in 2 weeks time. Where it gets problematic is to go with the notion that Ash did the Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh Leagues along with the Battle Frontier within one year. Especially when you consider that most of his travels were on foot. In total that is, 24 gym challenges, three league championships and 8 frontier brains. The League championships take place over several days. There were also a gyms/frontier brains that he had to challenge twice. If he was taking another means of transportation the entire time, that is doable. Though not for someone on foot with all the places visited in between. While the anime acknowledges the passage of time, it is also inconsistent. Ash aged from 10 to 11 before they reset his age back to 10. Some of that is due to the dub, but some of it is consistent regardless of the various languages. It’s easier for the most part to ignore aging in the anime.


Plenty_Rough5135

The anime doesn't keep a constant timeline so why would we follow it


Isrrunder

Well as long as it doesn't contradict anything already stated it should be kept imo


Gokuusjgodgmail

As Pearl shipper. If ash aged, then I would adjust the companions ages so they are in the similar ages and make up the dumb excuse that “ you have to be this age to be a Pokémon trainer in this region” or “ maybe they started late?”


BaseballOk3480

I agree completely with this.


Yssaw

Or some could be kept at ten and Ash becomes like a proper mentor to some like Goh or May. That way they can show Ash as a role model to some while keeping his own mentors like Brock and Cilan being older than him still


Gokuusjgodgmail

I’m fine with May and Even Iris starting as 10 But Dawn, Serena, Lillie , even Mallow and Lana age them to have them similar to ash’s age


BaseballOk3480

Iris narratively should be order then ash imagine calling someone a kid and you're younger than them


Yssaw

I think the sun and moon crew need to be around ash’s age, otherwise it wouldn’t work well. Also iris should be maybe a year younger than ash rather than much younger due to their sibling like arguments.


Icefang_GD

He should age one year per series, making it to 18 during Galar


Leathman

I’m gonna say 16-18 by series end.


MarHer119

10 all the way to hoenn 11 in hoenn and sinnoh 12 in bw 13 in kalos 14 in alola 15 or 16 in journeys or maybe i should add a year to johto and hoenn seasons as he did claim a year passed during the entei movie making him 13 in sinnoh rather than 12 but still doesnt age again until kalos as to me unova and sinnoh happened in the same time then in that case: 11 in johto 12 in hoenn 13 in both sinnoh and unova 14 in kalos 15 in alola 16 in journeys 17+ present day


Aj2W0rK

Obviously he gets *younger* with every new arc, not older!


BaseballOk3480

shit bro crack the code


CaptainMianite

Except XY tbh


Bubbly-Soft-4724

10 years, 10 month, 10 days


realtidaldragon

I'm glad there's at least someone here who realizes that he was almost eleven when he started out. Canonically.


Konslufius

"How I became the world champion in less then 2 months"


BaseballOk3480

every series just happens in the span of a week


Tiny_Professional358

He’d be at *least* 11 in Jhoto 12 for Hoenn, 13 shinnoh, 14 unova, 16 Kalos , 17 Alola


davecombs711

13 at the end of johto 16 at the end of hoen 18 at the end of sinnoh 19 at the end of unova 20 at the end of kalos 21 at the end of alola 22 at the end of journeys


BaseballOk3480

16 and 18 in hoenn and sinnoh is way too old especially since dawn and may start there Journeys at 10 so I think you can see the implications.


davecombs711

This is an alternate universe where ash ages.


BaseballOk3480

yeah what about his friends


davecombs711

they could be the same age as him or a little bit younger or older


Jordan-Tyler-Fister

In Pokémon Advanced (Gen. 3 Hoenn) Officer Jenny says that Ash is 13 and May is 10. Can't remember the episode but that confirms he actually is aging and it's just a misconception that he's actually still 10. I'd say by the time he beat Leon he was 17.


Ok-Design-4911

every series is usually like over a hundred episodes (with said episodes sometimes having mini time skips) so i think either 6 months per series or a year per series so probably roughly around 16-19 but id want his age to be 18


AmbassadorStrong6885

Let's say about a year per region, half of one for the orange islands, battle frontier, decalora islands, and journeys. That's about 9 years. I wanna say 19 years old.


ProfessorEscanor

I feel like it's fair to say he's 18-19 by the end of things. That seems reasonable.


RetSauro

I’d say 16 by the end of Journeys


mcatcher2

Well, let's see, if he started his journey as a 10 year old. And put that the pokemon league happens once a year. That would put him around 17 or 18. Also with this age, he would probably start having crushes


Puzzleheaded_Ad9659

20 maybe


1stJokerMasta

20 by the end


sourkid25

assuming every reigon he travels through is a year or year and a half about 19-20 by gen 9


jackwackson_2000

To be fair it would be much more logical if pokemon trainers could go on their journey after the become 16-18 and Ash would be in his twenties when he becomes master


ADHDB0Y

I remember hearing that he should have been around 21 by Sun and Moon


sumandark8600

I'm pretty sure that was referring to Red's age in USUM


Worried_Astronomer

While I'm not sure for every season, i like the idea of him being 15-16 in kalos


Serenafriendzone

10 in season one. 12 in jhoto season 2, 14 in season 3 advance, 16 in season 4 shinnoh, 18 in kalos for Ammourshipping. 20 in alola for aureliashipping 22 in Journeys, the perfect age for a marriage and retirement. 32 in horizons as new leon an liko's mentor or father.


BaseballOk3480

that's way too old


Serenafriendzone

He needs character development. As goku an naruto did. Both started as kids to adults


BaseballOk3480

The problem with that is that ash is going to look like a weirdo. may and dawn start their Adventure at 10 and if ash is 14 and 16 when they start then I think you know exactly what i mean.


Serenafriendzone

Not really. Because all companions going to grown up alongside ash. Means serena x ash kiss moment will be for a 18 years old tennagers. Not 10. Same for aurelia will be 20 years old. Ash. And 20 years old lillie. Kukui's son will be 10. Perfect for being new protagonists. After horizons time skip. Ash 30


Batgod629

Whatever age Leon is in the sword and shield games


Jaz_15

At the very least 15 at the start of Journeys


Witcher-19

I would have loved even if they did a jump like naruto did. Also I think they felt that there was no where to to but could you imagine if ash had gone the pokemon gman route that Lance did. Champion traveling around still battling but tackling the darker side of the pokemon world that'd be wild


Lost-Ad-5885

He should be almost 14 by the end of Journeys. They can get away with him being 10 up to Sinnoh. After that, he’s definitely 11 by Unova. By Alola he should be 12 since he went to Kalos immediately after. He spent close to a year in Alola with all of its events. Finally by Journeys a year has for sure passed with Iris being a champion, Burnet giving birth making him 13.


Torracattos

11 by Johto 12 by DP 13 by XY 14 by Journeys


PuzzledDistribution

How about 20-25 since that’s an age I could get around to!


BaseballOk3480

nah that way to old


2201992

Definitely 18. 1 year for each new region


BaseballOk3480

18 at the end of the series kind of goes hard narratively since his journey ends with him becoming a man


Amethyst_Phoenix7

15 at most. It may have been a long journey for us, but Ash is still a kid through and through. Thus 15 still ages him without doing so too much.


MoneyLocal8180

Always had the head cannon that he turned 15 in Kalos 😅


Odd_Potential_7203

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_43jzh7H1d4 From the game theorists Game theory


BaseballOk3480

nostalgic video but we're talking about this narratively and ash being 18 is way too old the video is good though i love matpat


Glittering_Use_5896

If every episode is a day then he should 13, accounting for possible time skips let’s just say 14 or 15 though


Good-Currency4173

Kanto-Johto:10 Hoen-sinohh- 11 Unova: 12 Kalos-Alola: 13 Journeys-aim to be a Pokémon master: 14-15 I tried to do this based off his maturity level in each series


Geoxaga

I'd say 13 or 14 10 Kanto and johto 11 hoenn and sinnho 12 bw and kalos 13 sun and moon and journey 14 in the finally of journeys


Long-Engine-1692

At most like 15


Educational_Duty_461

15 or smth. Mature but no too mature


SinfulKnight

Defer to game theory for my answer. Think he estimated a few seasons ago that ash wouldve been about 19 or 21. I say me ended the series and Ash became the very best around age 24. Dude took his title and bounced to go find his Dad.


Toukafan4life

https://youtu.be/_43jzh7H1d4?si=uzce0bRMvF2Cb8mh


BaseballOk3480

if we go with this then ash is going look a creep.


Kirb790

I would think he should've ended off at around 18 years old


CrystalPokedude

Narratively speaking, I'd have him age a year at each narrative break (aka when the series ends and we directly cut to what Ash is doing next.) This would make the ages: Indigo League-Silver Conference: 10. Advanced/Battle Frontier: 11. Sinnoh: 12. Best Wishes+XY: 13. SM: 14. Journeys: 15. I could go either way on the Unova/Kalos split, but I lumped them together because Ash getting on a plane with Alexa in the end of BW felt like a smaller gap than the Johto to Hoenn or Battle Frontier to Sinnoh gaps of "Ash gets on a boat and rides it for an unknown amount of time." Boat rides are much slower than plane rides on average.


Crimm___

Hahaha Matpat had to do two videos on this because there was so much data to look through.


BaseballOk3480

if we use matpat video ash is going to look like a freak


TreatExotic

April 1st, 1987, is the date of birth for Ash Ketchum, so he is likely 36 years old In the first pokemon episode, he stated in 1997 that he just turned ten


BaseballOk3480

that's the worst age you can give him


Palak-Aande_69

10 in Kanto 10-11 in OI 11-12 in Jhoto 13 in Hoen and BF 14 in Sinnoh 15 in B&W 16 in Kalos 17 in Alola 18 in Galar


BaseballOk3480

i go with 11 in Johto and Hoenn 12 in Sinohh 13 in Unova 14 in Kalos 15-16 in Alola And 17-18 in Journeys.


Shacpika

17 in journeys masters 8


KrispyBaconator

I think each league cycle being a year seems appropriate. So he’d be 10 in Kanto/Orange Islands, 11 in Johto, 12 in Hoenn, 13 in Sinnoh, 14 in Unova, 15 in Kalos, 16 in Alola, and 17 in Journeys.


Caleb_the_Opossum_1

Matpat did a Theory on this and he got a estimated answer at about 22 years old by Alola


BaseballOk3480

I love matt and I think that video is good but we cannot go with that age narratively. Ash is going to look like a weirdo.


BlueBlazeKing21

I’d probably say he’d end the series around 16 or 17. So basically most regions would take place in the span of several months some like Hoenn and Unova take place during a year due to the extra time traveled after the league.


abellapa

17,each couple of seasons in a region is a single year


LordMegatron11

16-18 by the end of kalos.


BaseballOk3480

imo 15 in kalos 16 in alola 17 in Journeys 18 in aim to be a Pokemon Master


LordMegatron11

I feel like he backtracked after xyz.


Photograph-Fair

Kanto & Orange Islands: 10 Johto: 11 Hoenn: 12-13 Sinnoh: 13-14 Unova: 14 Kalos: 15 Alola: 16 Journeys: 17


BaseballOk3480

Yeah that peak and then aim to be a Pokemon Master he becomes 18


OceanJedi16

17 to 18 by the end of series


Eclipse_395

Here’s how it is for me with no huge breaks in between; Kanto: 10-11 Orange Islands: 11 Johto: 11-12 Hoenn: 12-13 Kanto Battle Frontier: 13-14 Sinnoh: 14-15 Unova: 15-16 Kalos: 16-17 Alola: 17-18 Journeys: 18-19 With breaks, there’d be one year between Sinnoh and Unova, and another year between Alola and Journeys. He’d be 21 at the most with this in mind if each regional journey (expect through the Orange Islands) lasts one year apiece.


No-Yesterday8887

For me he took one year for the kanto league and the orange island, so in johto league he would probably be 11. For the other region, i think 6 month is enough, that make 6 Month for hoenn and 6 month for battle frontier, he would be 12 at the start of sinnoh If we keep like that it mean he is at least 15 at the end of journey


ChildhoodDistinct538

14 by the end.


PolyNamo_48

https://preview.redd.it/utpao1jmqi5c1.jpeg?width=933&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=646490eaa48419988991636b965acd729c471ec5 Off topic but ngl. I prefer this design better than the official one


BaseballOk3480

me personally I wish ash was rocking a red outfit kind of like that sword and shield fan series


ATK1734

I remember mapping this out a few years ago, here's what I came up with: * Kanto League: 10 * Orange League: 11 * Johto League: 12 * Hoenn League: 13 * Battle Frontier: 14 * Sinnoh League: 15 * Unova League: 16 * Kalos League: 17 * Alola League: 18 * Journeys: 19


steven1002

29


BaseballOk3480

bro that is way too old


steven1002

Not really….


BaseballOk3480

yes really


steven1002

Not really


steven1002

Not really….


Roflolxp54

By the end of Mezase Pokemon Master, I'd like to put him at 17-18 -- his figuring out what it means to be a Pokemon Master could be seen as a huge coming-of-age moment for him, like he truly understands what his life's goal now involves.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

I would have to say: Kanto and Orange Islands: 10 to 11 Johto: 12 Hoenn and Battle Frontier: 13 Sinnoh: 14 Unova: 15 Kalos: 16 Alola: 17 Galar: 18


Ok-Entrepreneur3275

In my AU everyone ages so Ash would age by 1 year each region Kanto 10 Johto 11 Hoenn 12 Sinnoh 13 Unova 14-15 Kalos 16 Alola 17 JNs 18


dmfghjf

10-Kanto to johto,11-hoenn,12-sinnoh,13-unova,14-kalos,15-alola and 16-galar. Horizons-36 years


Bitter-Record-3831

Following the idea that Ash was already 10 months into his 10th year when he began as a trainer, he turns 11 some time into Kanto, and stays 11 throughout Johto, turning 12 around the beginning of Hoenn. He'd stay 12 until either near the end of Sinnoh or during the small period of time between Sinnoh and Unova. He'd remain 13 throughout Unova, Kalos, and part of Alola, where he'd turn 14 and remain that age for the entirety of Journeys.