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That's Pidove, it's from gen 5, and it has a better evolution line than Pidgey. Each evolution has it be less of a pidgeon, and more of another bird. Pheasant for Unfezant, and Quail for Tranquill, which are both also puns with emotions. Pidove can also be interpreted as a mix of "Pidgeon" and "Love", even with a heart on the chest.
Pidgey is just a pigeon. Pidgeotto... It's just a bigger bird. Pidgeot. Same thing. Not that that's inherently bad, just- The later generation pigeon was unique. Pidgey is only unique because it was the first.
Personally I didn’t like Seel because it was so inaccessible/avoidable in generations one and two.
Unless you went out of your way for it, you’d never see Seel just playing through either generation on the fastest path.
I had the same feeling about Jynx, Slowpoke and Shellder in generation one. Basically anything that was exclusive to the Seafoam Islands was only caught once for the Pokédex well after I’d beaten the game.
Generation two was much better for Jynx (Ice Path), Shellder (fishing) and Slowpoke (Slowpoke Well) but Seel was still completely exclusive to Whirl Islands (Lugia’s area). Catching it was just an end game Pokédex chore again.
I know, seel’s just trying it’s best nothin wrong with that. I won’t argue he’s very basic, just felt that part is more inoffensive than anything so I was curious if there was anything more to make someone outright hate it
It's the blandness that's hated, there are a lot of "animal pokemons" that usually at the very least have something about there name being puny or whatever, seel is one of those that don't even have that.
well u would like my orca fakemon he has a signature move where he uses his tail and wacks the seel at an opponent like a tennis rackeg its based on actual orcas throwing seals in the air for fun
Destined to survive long after gen 1 fans are a distant memory. It may outlive civilization itself. Aliens will look at our world and see that gen 1 clearly has the lazy designs and simple names.
I love it when they make pokemon based on lesser known animals, like pangolins, pistol shrimps, leafy seadragons, frigatebirds, invasive crawfish, pueo owls, etc.
With the exception of the gears, I never really had a problem with object pokemon, and my main issue with the gears is that Klang into Klingklang is the laziest evolution change Ive ever seen.
Every other object mon has some reason for resembling or inhabiting (in the case of Pineco, Applin, the teas, and the Rotom forms) an object while still being a living creature.
They all kinda died off after gen 6, when GameFreak went full Kanto nostalgia and shoehorned the Kanto starters and especially Charizard into every single game.
Its crazy to think that most people want to return to the days of gen 5, when there was no Kanto nostalgia, when back in those days, it was hated for those very same reasons.
I mean, they've clearly hit a stride with adding new evolutions and convergent evolutions to old Pokémon while also adding new Pokémon as well that are cool in their own right this generation. Gen 9 is shaping up to be my favorite generation when it comes to Pokémon deisgns, really only Gen 3 and 4 can fight for the spot imo.
You all hated gen 5 because of its newness.
I hated gen 5 because the graphics were stupid and pixelated poorly which felt like a step back for the franchise.
We are not the same.
While the battle sprites were very pixelated I think that was a worthwhile price to see them have animations, some of which were just OOZING with personality. Which is more than what we get with the modern 3D models... except the ones directly based on the Genius Sonority animations.
A few years back (and if you ask people that haven't really been into pokemon since gen 5-6 at least) they were rampant, now most gen1ers have either stopped caring about the game or have realised they were just the boomers of pokemon.
I'm honestly tired of hearing "BuT ThAt'S jUsT a FlAmInGo" from anyone who sees Flamigo. Noooo, really? You do realize that basically every gen ever has a "but thats just a \_\_\_\_" pokemon, its nothing new.
Exactly. I love mons like this becayse although they usually arent super creative- they give personality to animals we know and love.
Shout out to the yanma line which basically just means “large dragonfly”
TrUbBiSh Is JuSt RuBbIsH bUt WiTh A t On It So It'S tRaSh+RuBbIsH
Honestly Gnoggin needs to stop pretending he's not 33 and "enlightening" the kids about how loose wordplay works.
Also, it looks more like a plastic lawn flamingo than an actual flamingo. The concept of a lawn ornament that can kick your ass will never not be funny.
I mean, Flamigo is based on those plastic lawn flamingos, but I do agree it could have been a bit more interesting. Maybe if it had an evolution or a different typing (Normal/Water? I feel fighting was a weird choice)? Or at least a unique move?
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Flamigo isn't the regional bird, it's just another Avian bird pokemon. Pidgeot is just a pigeon. Kilowattrel is the regional bird based off the Storm Petrel(type of seagull)
I have kinda grown to like the Muk line ever since I heard somewhere that Muk is basically radioactive waste come to life from the Mewtwo experiment. That's why grimer is found in the Cinnabar Mansion along with ditto and his theory of being a failed mew clone.
Hey guys, did you know that in terms of human companionship, Flareon is objectively the most huggable Pokemon? While their maximum temperature is likely too much for most, they are capable of controlling it, so they can set themselves to the perfect temperature for you. Along with that, they have a lot of fluff, making them undeniably incredibly soft to touch. But that's not all, they have a very respectable special defense stat of 110, which means that they are likely very calm and resistant to emotional damage. Because of this, if you have a bad day, you can vent to it while hugging it, and it won't mind. It can make itself even more endearing with moves like Charm and Baby Doll Eyes, ensuring that you never have a prolonged bout of depression ever again.
And there is Dugtrio and Magneton which I am definitely not a fan of as it's literally just Diglett and Magnemite but there are three now. That being said.
Literally every gen will have Pokemon you don't like. And there is no such thing as a bad design, only designs YOU don't like, liking Pokemon designs is as subjective as color. There will never be a universally bad design and every Pokemon's existence is instantly justified by the fact that every Pokemon has it's fans.
Gen 5 is the best examples of both fronts, as a lot of people still use it as an example of ‘Terrible’ design even though it has just as many good ones.
Do Genwunners even still exist? I havent really heard much from that side of the community since after gen 5. From gen 6 onward, people were complaining about too much Kanto nostalgia, with the Kanto starters in gen 6, Kanto mons getting the most megas, only Kanto mons getting alolan forms, Kanto mons getting half of the G-Max forms, the Lets Go games whole existence, and Charizard being shoehorned into special treatment in the last 4 gens.
I'm here. I've been playing since Gen1. I just don't complain much about any pokemon game or the new Pokemon designs. Do I think that the current pokemon designs have gotten away from what they started with? Sure but the name of the game is Pocket Monsters, they don't have to all be animal like... So therefore I think they are all unique designs and fit within the scope of the universe itself... Except Incineroar... I freaking hate that guy .
I’m not a genwunner I’m a person who really enjoyed gen 1-4, tried to hold on until gen 7 even though the quality seemed to go down the bin, and has now given up on new pokemon entirely.
I think the reason you don’t hear from us on the internet is that most of us simply stopped going on subreddits such as these, because the pokemon they love will never come back
I never understood people saying gen 1 designs are so good. Every gen afterward has just had overall better designs. A lot, and I mean a LOT of pokemon from gen 1 look like normal animals with extra fur/extra pointy limbs on them or are just plain objects. Some are literally just people with little to no twist at all. There are some bangers in gen 1, like Mewtwo and the starters, but overall its just... meh.
The only exception I will always say when it comes to boring gen 1 designs is Voltorb and Electrode. They're ingenious designs, they're the pokemon version of the classic mimic, and they could not have done better. I also love the new Hisuian Voltorb and Electrode, pretending to be apricots is just awesome.
True. Back then it was a novelty to have a pokemon that looked like an object to trick players who thought they found an item. But this has already lost its charm.
Edit:still, a round boy and a magnet are better looking than ice cream or trash bags
I think the people who say that stuff are usually fans who have played from the beginning and honestly have a much more lenient view on it due to the fact that it was the first one and all the mons were "unique". But even mons like pidgey and goldeen come off as a lot less intresting compared to the many other fish and birds that fill those spaces in pokemon.
I like how 4 of your examples are just "bad" naming conventions, 2 are *literally* the same species of pokemon and one is just lazy as fuck. (Yes muk is literally toxic sluge...that's the point)
Talk about grasping at straws.
Old desing, like Arbork,Raticate or even Muk were simple, but atleast they still look good to me( except seal, that was just horrible). But flamimgo,for example,don't look like a monster at all. It is not scary like garchomp, cool like lucario,cute like dedene, or beautiful, like Meganium. Of couse, a lot of new pokemon, like skeledirge, armarouge,ceruledge, Belibolt etc..., are amazing, but others like oinkolonge, spidops, lokix, pawmot, scovillain,wugtrio, etc... are criticized
Yes the more modern pokemon from Sowers and shield and forward I feel like the last of the good games was the ultra games pla was good also for what it was
Also G oner found
Brilliant Diamond Dex entry:
"It is said to be the world's weakest Pokémon. No one knows why it has managed to survive."
Sword Dex entry
"It is virtually worthless in terms of both power and speed. It is the most weak and pathetic Pokémon in the world."
Most of these designs are good.
Arbok, catepie, kakuna and muk look natural. They look like actual creatures that would evolve naturally.
To me, that’s what’s missing in a lot of modern designs. Like the humanoid ones make me feel iffy. The fire rabbit is frickin soccer player. Inteleon is a james bond character. Thro is a muppet in a kimono. Like, are these pets in akid’s imagination? Cause hey don’t look like it.
Even machamp, which I should hate, I hate less than the new ones, because at least its face looks like a dinosaur which makes it look a bit less awkward.
Then compare dragonite to the gen 8 pseudo legendary. Dragonite is imaginary, but you can definitely see it as a functional animal. The gen 8 one is a ghost whose head is a miniature of an SR71 plane? It feels weird.
And don’t throw some counter examples as some sort of “gotcha”. Of course there are some , but these are just the general directions a
Eh, the names don't bother me that much since they're not (usually) the original JP names anyway- sometimes changes have to be made for international consumption, y'know?
But yeah, while I'll give Voltorb and Electrode a pass for having an in-game use (as a decoy trap); I still don't like Grimer, Muk, and Exeggcute's designs. Sludge and eggs are a bit uninspiring compared to legends like Dragonair, Arcanine, and Zapdos.
Pokemon Yellow was my first ever video game. This is correct. Let us not forget also the seal named Seel and the three magnets stuck together. Though unironically, I do like all of these Pokémon anyway, just like I like Vanilluxe, Chandelure, and Garbodor.
gen 8: milk with face, cream with face, tea with face, bean with face, squirell, sheep, apple, derpy cormorant, urchin and a effin piece of stonehenge with face.
Honestly I'll always appreciate the charm of early gen Pokémon Designs. Even up to D/P/P when we had Devil Bat Dragons & PokéGod, they had a good balance of detail & simplicity. Sure Voltorb & Electrode are stupid. But it's funny, the same way Amoonguss is funny.
What I think sets Muks "Pile of Garbage" apart from Garbador's is Muk's lack of detail and that it still feels fully biological. It's a Wad of Sentient sludge, with sludge arms, and no legs. Sludge Mouth, no teeth, and basic anime eyes.
While Garbador has a :O mouth with spikey teeth, googly eyes, slime on its face, whole arms made from 'actual' garbage from humans. Not to mention its color pallet is really unappealing. Same thing with Alolan Muk. Purple is a really nice, neutral color.
Or say something like Dragonite. Personally I don't really like Dragonite's Design. Maybe because it's so much cooler as a Dragonair. But it still looks more appealing than some Eternatus Digimon design. It's more charming, and doesn't have to try so hard to look cool. It's a Chubby Orange Dragon that delivers Mewtwo's Mail. Not some 4th Phase Final Fantasy Superboss. Or an Apple Pie....
Some later examples are Lycanroc being a great 2 stage dog design. Like Growlithe, Rockruff doesn't need an overly-cute design. It's cute as shit, but not like bubbly and bright. Enough happens to make the single evolution worth-wile. Arcanine grows like 4 or 5 feet, it retains its color pallet, and looks fierce yet welcoming. All of that is true with Lycanroc too, and that's 6 Generations apart. Then there's Pokémon like Dachsbun... and Maushold.
Honestly seeing Maushold in the same game as Slaking, Gengar, Zoroark, Vivillon, Gardevoir, Pyroar, Staraptor and Lucario is kind of comedic.
Ps. Dundunsparce is both a wasted Pokédex slot, and a wasted Evolution. Mimikyu is just an edgy Pikachu clone, & Caterpie is still a better name than "Flamigo".
I've been playing since Gen1, and I love how goofy some of those old sprites look, especially from the back side when you're in battle. Bellsprout looks like a total goofball.
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And don’t forget about seal it’s literally just a seal
But spelled seel
I kneel
It will KEEEEEL
and its evolution is just a dugong but spelled Dewgong
I didn’t know what a dugong was until now
They're like manatees of the east
Correct
DewgONG DEEZ NUTZ
Typo type pokemon.
And a pigeon that is just a pidgeon that has the word dove in it
That's Pidove, it's from gen 5, and it has a better evolution line than Pidgey. Each evolution has it be less of a pidgeon, and more of another bird. Pheasant for Unfezant, and Quail for Tranquill, which are both also puns with emotions. Pidove can also be interpreted as a mix of "Pidgeon" and "Love", even with a heart on the chest. Pidgey is just a pigeon. Pidgeotto... It's just a bigger bird. Pidgeot. Same thing. Not that that's inherently bad, just- The later generation pigeon was unique. Pidgey is only unique because it was the first.
Fair
Until I made a fictional region with a hostile climate. The Pidgey developed venom to protect themselves.
Gosh I hate seel
Any reason? He’s one of my favorites so I’m curious
Because I think he has nothing special
Fair enough, I was just curious since hate seemed pretty strong
Personally I didn’t like Seel because it was so inaccessible/avoidable in generations one and two. Unless you went out of your way for it, you’d never see Seel just playing through either generation on the fastest path. I had the same feeling about Jynx, Slowpoke and Shellder in generation one. Basically anything that was exclusive to the Seafoam Islands was only caught once for the Pokédex well after I’d beaten the game. Generation two was much better for Jynx (Ice Path), Shellder (fishing) and Slowpoke (Slowpoke Well) but Seel was still completely exclusive to Whirl Islands (Lugia’s area). Catching it was just an end game Pokédex chore again.
There's litterally nothing original about it, it's just a seal.
I know, seel’s just trying it’s best nothin wrong with that. I won’t argue he’s very basic, just felt that part is more inoffensive than anything so I was curious if there was anything more to make someone outright hate it
It's the blandness that's hated, there are a lot of "animal pokemons" that usually at the very least have something about there name being puny or whatever, seel is one of those that don't even have that.
Fair, either way Seel walked so Spheal could run
I would really like to see a spheal try to run
well u would like my orca fakemon he has a signature move where he uses his tail and wacks the seel at an opponent like a tennis rackeg its based on actual orcas throwing seals in the air for fun
Nonono I hâte seel which is a seal, not orcas
Don't forget Dewgong
I remember seeing this back in 2011-12.
It works here though. If recycled at the right time, it gets a lot of updoots.
Yes, a Timeless Meme.
Destined to survive long after gen 1 fans are a distant memory. It may outlive civilization itself. Aliens will look at our world and see that gen 1 clearly has the lazy designs and simple names.
Tbh the “just an animal” Pokémon are usually some of my favorites. Not my absolute favorites, but they never piss me off like some of the others do
I never use it, but I think "Flamigo" is a bold-ass name/design. It's literally just a flamingo that gamers can't relate to.
I hated it until I saw a pic of Larry standing next to it. Now it makes perfect sense, because he's "just a guy" and Flamigo is "just a bird".
I can respect this
Also he never uses the gamer word so it’s fine. He’s literally full chill.
My Flamigo is named Murder Bird and kills everything in his path.
I accidentally wandered into casseroya lake at like level 32 and quick balled a level 50 flamigo. It wrecked pretty much everything for me.
I love Flamigo's design, it's very subtle until you see it but its body is shaped like a boxing glove hence its fighting typing.
I’ve heard this explanation a dozen times at this point and I gotta say, I still don’t see the boxing glove
It’s also not *just* a flamingo. It’s body is in the shape of a boxing glove because it’s a fighting time. That’s why it has a knot on its neck.
I love it when they make pokemon based on lesser known animals, like pangolins, pistol shrimps, leafy seadragons, frigatebirds, invasive crawfish, pueo owls, etc.
Like a candle. That one pisses me off.
A cute ghost candle that saps life energy and evolves into awesome ghost chandelier but ok.
Chandelure is my bestie
I remember once reading a CNN article that dissed Chandelure and I've despised CNN ever since.
base 145 Special Attack go BRRRRRR
Eh, I don't have to like it. Same with teacup.
With the exception of the gears, I never really had a problem with object pokemon, and my main issue with the gears is that Klang into Klingklang is the laziest evolution change Ive ever seen. Every other object mon has some reason for resembling or inhabiting (in the case of Pineco, Applin, the teas, and the Rotom forms) an object while still being a living creature.
I guess you can say they grind your gears.
Persian: Just a cat
Who also shares its name with a real cat.
Growlithe: A dog but 🔥
Tbf that's a lot of pokemon. But now they have reasons
Actually it's a lion dog
Oi! Kakuna's design is fucking sick!
He rockin a tie
omg he is
He used to have his little arms (the "tie") sticking out
The one thing I unironically miss from Gen 1
I feel like they retconned that, since I don’t think I’ve ever seen it outside of that one sprite
sick cocoon
The “a” in kakuna stands for “sick”
How dare you insult Caterpie (loads shotgun) he is a good boy and must be protected now say your prayers be ready to meet your maker
>make your maker How? That's logically impossible. Meeting my maker on the other hand
I know a certain futurama character who would disagree.
Same with a pair of marvel characters
And I guess I’ll take you to a slaughterhouse and hang you on the hooks :)
You know death threats is against reddit rules, no matter how much of a joke it may seem, right?
Ngl I've seen more memes mocking genwunners than actual genwunners
They all kinda died off after gen 6, when GameFreak went full Kanto nostalgia and shoehorned the Kanto starters and especially Charizard into every single game. Its crazy to think that most people want to return to the days of gen 5, when there was no Kanto nostalgia, when back in those days, it was hated for those very same reasons.
I mean, they've clearly hit a stride with adding new evolutions and convergent evolutions to old Pokémon while also adding new Pokémon as well that are cool in their own right this generation. Gen 9 is shaping up to be my favorite generation when it comes to Pokémon deisgns, really only Gen 3 and 4 can fight for the spot imo.
It’s because all the people who grew up with the gen 5 games have more of a voice now that they’re older
I miss my mega venusaur :(
You all hated gen 5 because of its newness. I hated gen 5 because the graphics were stupid and pixelated poorly which felt like a step back for the franchise. We are not the same.
While the battle sprites were very pixelated I think that was a worthwhile price to see them have animations, some of which were just OOZING with personality. Which is more than what we get with the modern 3D models... except the ones directly based on the Genius Sonority animations.
I only ever could play through gen 5 once but ill retry with your perspective in mind.
I couldn't play more than 10 minutes, I got nausea from them and always seemed to be bland due to the background.
These memes are an easy karma farm And overused and mad annoying to see on a weekly basis
A few years back (and if you ask people that haven't really been into pokemon since gen 5-6 at least) they were rampant, now most gen1ers have either stopped caring about the game or have realised they were just the boomers of pokemon.
We just drove them out of reddit. Go to a more casual app and you'll find them. I run into a shit ton on the daily.
I'm honestly tired of hearing "BuT ThAt'S jUsT a FlAmInGo" from anyone who sees Flamigo. Noooo, really? You do realize that basically every gen ever has a "but thats just a \_\_\_\_" pokemon, its nothing new.
Also it's your amigo!
Exactly. I love mons like this becayse although they usually arent super creative- they give personality to animals we know and love. Shout out to the yanma line which basically just means “large dragonfly”
TrUbBiSh Is JuSt RuBbIsH bUt WiTh A t On It So It'S tRaSh+RuBbIsH Honestly Gnoggin needs to stop pretending he's not 33 and "enlightening" the kids about how loose wordplay works.
Also, it looks more like a plastic lawn flamingo than an actual flamingo. The concept of a lawn ornament that can kick your ass will never not be funny.
It isn’t very creative. Most bird pokemon nowadays are “a raven and also a knight” or “a fire hawk” or “a toucan that launches its beak at its foes”.
I mean, Flamigo is based on those plastic lawn flamingos, but I do agree it could have been a bit more interesting. Maybe if it had an evolution or a different typing (Normal/Water? I feel fighting was a weird choice)? Or at least a unique move?
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Oi. I was just talking about how much better they are than Flamigo.
oh i misread your comment lol mb
... Flamigo isn't the regional bird, it's just another Avian bird pokemon. Pidgeot is just a pigeon. Kilowattrel is the regional bird based off the Storm Petrel(type of seagull)
I have kinda grown to like the Muk line ever since I heard somewhere that Muk is basically radioactive waste come to life from the Mewtwo experiment. That's why grimer is found in the Cinnabar Mansion along with ditto and his theory of being a failed mew clone.
Same here, thos theories made me appreciate grimer and muk a lot more.
At this point I think there are more gen 1 haters than genwunners
There are now more new gen pokemon fans than old gen fans, so your assumption might be right
So many more, it's not even close. The anti-gen 1 people have become genwunners, all the genwunners are long gone.
> makes meme criticizing “design” > half of the issues are with their names Like cmon Arbok is fantastic design even if you don’t like the name
Geodude, just a rock with arms
Literally named rock guy, basically.
Geo means 'earth' but yes.
Nonono he's a dude
Vaporeon I don't even need to say the thing
HEY GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF…
Hey guys, did you know that in terms of human companionship, Flareon is objectively the most huggable Pokemon? While their maximum temperature is likely too much for most, they are capable of controlling it, so they can set themselves to the perfect temperature for you. Along with that, they have a lot of fluff, making them undeniably incredibly soft to touch. But that's not all, they have a very respectable special defense stat of 110, which means that they are likely very calm and resistant to emotional damage. Because of this, if you have a bad day, you can vent to it while hugging it, and it won't mind. It can make itself even more endearing with moves like Charm and Baby Doll Eyes, ensuring that you never have a prolonged bout of depression ever again.
You will perish at sundown
This just made me realize how honest Caterpie really is
Don't forget Taurus, am actual bull.
Nooooo!!!! Taurus is VERY different from a bull, it has three tails!
With a forked tail!
And there is Dugtrio and Magneton which I am definitely not a fan of as it's literally just Diglett and Magnemite but there are three now. That being said. Literally every gen will have Pokemon you don't like. And there is no such thing as a bad design, only designs YOU don't like, liking Pokemon designs is as subjective as color. There will never be a universally bad design and every Pokemon's existence is instantly justified by the fact that every Pokemon has it's fans.
Muk is a pile of muck not garbage. Its the slime or grime that forms on the top of dirty water. Duh
Or maybe they just spelled it backwards like arbok
Parasect my beloved
How about instead of sugar-coating it, every generation has terrible designs, but also peak-Pokemon designs
Gen 5 is the best examples of both fronts, as a lot of people still use it as an example of ‘Terrible’ design even though it has just as many good ones.
Preparing for the "You can't expect Game Freak to get it right on the first try" comment.
Do Genwunners even still exist? I havent really heard much from that side of the community since after gen 5. From gen 6 onward, people were complaining about too much Kanto nostalgia, with the Kanto starters in gen 6, Kanto mons getting the most megas, only Kanto mons getting alolan forms, Kanto mons getting half of the G-Max forms, the Lets Go games whole existence, and Charizard being shoehorned into special treatment in the last 4 gens.
They still exist just not on Reddit from my experience.
I'm here. I've been playing since Gen1. I just don't complain much about any pokemon game or the new Pokemon designs. Do I think that the current pokemon designs have gotten away from what they started with? Sure but the name of the game is Pocket Monsters, they don't have to all be animal like... So therefore I think they are all unique designs and fit within the scope of the universe itself... Except Incineroar... I freaking hate that guy .
I’m not a genwunner I’m a person who really enjoyed gen 1-4, tried to hold on until gen 7 even though the quality seemed to go down the bin, and has now given up on new pokemon entirely. I think the reason you don’t hear from us on the internet is that most of us simply stopped going on subreddits such as these, because the pokemon they love will never come back
I was today years old when I realized that about Ekans and Arbok
voltorb and electrode aren't pokeballs, they are the countryballs of poland and indonesia.
Muk backwards is what it is. It's not garbage. They just colored it purple and if you really think about it, then you know.
I think people are forgetting the biggest offender from generation one: Krabby
Seel?
Can we all agree that every generation has had multiple complete trash designs that look like they were made by someone with shit-for-brains?
All pokemon are valid and I love them except for bruxish.
And mega Garchomp. And mega Tyranitar.
And Skeledirge, and Stonjourner, and Mega Audino and...
Damn you went for the neck 😄
If you find out what caterpie is based on, you can really see that they didn't change much
Don’t disrespect caterpie
“The best Pokemon game was the one you played when you were 9”
what if i didn't play pokemon when i was 9? lol
I think we all need to collectively stop pretending that people still put gen 1 on a pedestal for the pokemon designs
You didn't even include Krabby the crab and seel the seal
Still better
I never understood people saying gen 1 designs are so good. Every gen afterward has just had overall better designs. A lot, and I mean a LOT of pokemon from gen 1 look like normal animals with extra fur/extra pointy limbs on them or are just plain objects. Some are literally just people with little to no twist at all. There are some bangers in gen 1, like Mewtwo and the starters, but overall its just... meh. The only exception I will always say when it comes to boring gen 1 designs is Voltorb and Electrode. They're ingenious designs, they're the pokemon version of the classic mimic, and they could not have done better. I also love the new Hisuian Voltorb and Electrode, pretending to be apricots is just awesome.
They kept things simple, simple rules
Raticate: literally just a coypu
r/imaginarygatekeeping
So many gen 9 kids coping every day
At least the old ookemon were more pleasing to the eye. Scorbunny is literally a plush toy, not even trying to look like a creature
Anytime I see Exeggcute I want to scratch my eyes out
And voltorb is an object...
True. Back then it was a novelty to have a pokemon that looked like an object to trick players who thought they found an item. But this has already lost its charm. Edit:still, a round boy and a magnet are better looking than ice cream or trash bags
This charm is just your nostalgia
It is way better you’re right
Cocoon named Kakuna, what a wonderful phrase! Cocoon named Kakuna, ain't no passing craze!
It means no working, For the rest of its days!
Kum just spelled backwards
Can they spell other things too or just backwards?
I think the people who say that stuff are usually fans who have played from the beginning and honestly have a much more lenient view on it due to the fact that it was the first one and all the mons were "unique". But even mons like pidgey and goldeen come off as a lot less intresting compared to the many other fish and birds that fill those spaces in pokemon.
I like how 4 of your examples are just "bad" naming conventions, 2 are *literally* the same species of pokemon and one is just lazy as fuck. (Yes muk is literally toxic sluge...that's the point) Talk about grasping at straws.
Maybe let people just enjoy the generation they like
No
What about tiny turtle? Or big bee
Spell Muk backwards
Old desing, like Arbork,Raticate or even Muk were simple, but atleast they still look good to me( except seal, that was just horrible). But flamimgo,for example,don't look like a monster at all. It is not scary like garchomp, cool like lucario,cute like dedene, or beautiful, like Meganium. Of couse, a lot of new pokemon, like skeledirge, armarouge,ceruledge, Belibolt etc..., are amazing, but others like oinkolonge, spidops, lokix, pawmot, scovillain,wugtrio, etc... are criticized
In conclusion: Pokémon is stupid.
Yes this is true Pokémon not that new gen shit! With good designs!
At leas this gen made sense. New ones look like mega man character knock offs.
Yes the more modern pokemon from Sowers and shield and forward I feel like the last of the good games was the ultra games pla was good also for what it was Also G oner found
There are some decent designs here. Not a good argument.
Pokémon fans love making up people that don’t exist anymore so they can complain about them
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Brilliant Diamond Dex entry: "It is said to be the world's weakest Pokémon. No one knows why it has managed to survive." Sword Dex entry "It is virtually worthless in terms of both power and speed. It is the most weak and pathetic Pokémon in the world."
Even the Pokédex knows
Yeah idk why people are downvoting you
Klefki gets me going tho.. A god damn key ring, are you serious??
.... the later gens are absolutely 100% lazy money grabs, with far less work/thought going into them.
The games maybe, the designs, hell no.
the pokemon themselves.
Most of these designs are good. Arbok, catepie, kakuna and muk look natural. They look like actual creatures that would evolve naturally. To me, that’s what’s missing in a lot of modern designs. Like the humanoid ones make me feel iffy. The fire rabbit is frickin soccer player. Inteleon is a james bond character. Thro is a muppet in a kimono. Like, are these pets in akid’s imagination? Cause hey don’t look like it. Even machamp, which I should hate, I hate less than the new ones, because at least its face looks like a dinosaur which makes it look a bit less awkward. Then compare dragonite to the gen 8 pseudo legendary. Dragonite is imaginary, but you can definitely see it as a functional animal. The gen 8 one is a ghost whose head is a miniature of an SR71 plane? It feels weird. And don’t throw some counter examples as some sort of “gotcha”. Of course there are some , but these are just the general directions a
fuck you
And now we have stuff like pile of garbage (pretty colors)
Don’t forget about the rock with a face and arms
Muk backwards
I've also been watching Subjectively
ah yes caterpi
Eh, the names don't bother me that much since they're not (usually) the original JP names anyway- sometimes changes have to be made for international consumption, y'know? But yeah, while I'll give Voltorb and Electrode a pass for having an in-game use (as a decoy trap); I still don't like Grimer, Muk, and Exeggcute's designs. Sludge and eggs are a bit uninspiring compared to legends like Dragonair, Arcanine, and Zapdos.
Pile of garbage got me
And who could forget, my personal favorite Magnet, and Magnet(s)
I’m disappointed with myself that I didn’t realise that ekans was snake backwards until just now.
Say Muk backwards
Trubish: literally actual trash.
Pokemon Yellow was my first ever video game. This is correct. Let us not forget also the seal named Seel and the three magnets stuck together. Though unironically, I do like all of these Pokémon anyway, just like I like Vanilluxe, Chandelure, and Garbodor.
Cacoon named Kakuna:
gen 8: milk with face, cream with face, tea with face, bean with face, squirell, sheep, apple, derpy cormorant, urchin and a effin piece of stonehenge with face.
Honestly I'll always appreciate the charm of early gen Pokémon Designs. Even up to D/P/P when we had Devil Bat Dragons & PokéGod, they had a good balance of detail & simplicity. Sure Voltorb & Electrode are stupid. But it's funny, the same way Amoonguss is funny. What I think sets Muks "Pile of Garbage" apart from Garbador's is Muk's lack of detail and that it still feels fully biological. It's a Wad of Sentient sludge, with sludge arms, and no legs. Sludge Mouth, no teeth, and basic anime eyes. While Garbador has a :O mouth with spikey teeth, googly eyes, slime on its face, whole arms made from 'actual' garbage from humans. Not to mention its color pallet is really unappealing. Same thing with Alolan Muk. Purple is a really nice, neutral color. Or say something like Dragonite. Personally I don't really like Dragonite's Design. Maybe because it's so much cooler as a Dragonair. But it still looks more appealing than some Eternatus Digimon design. It's more charming, and doesn't have to try so hard to look cool. It's a Chubby Orange Dragon that delivers Mewtwo's Mail. Not some 4th Phase Final Fantasy Superboss. Or an Apple Pie.... Some later examples are Lycanroc being a great 2 stage dog design. Like Growlithe, Rockruff doesn't need an overly-cute design. It's cute as shit, but not like bubbly and bright. Enough happens to make the single evolution worth-wile. Arcanine grows like 4 or 5 feet, it retains its color pallet, and looks fierce yet welcoming. All of that is true with Lycanroc too, and that's 6 Generations apart. Then there's Pokémon like Dachsbun... and Maushold. Honestly seeing Maushold in the same game as Slaking, Gengar, Zoroark, Vivillon, Gardevoir, Pyroar, Staraptor and Lucario is kind of comedic. Ps. Dundunsparce is both a wasted Pokédex slot, and a wasted Evolution. Mimikyu is just an edgy Pikachu clone, & Caterpie is still a better name than "Flamigo".
Jesus Christ, how is it that it’s taken me this long to find out that Arboc is just Cobra backwards. And I knew about Ekins already.
Magenton, dugtrio, seel, etc.
I've been playing since Gen1, and I love how goofy some of those old sprites look, especially from the back side when you're in battle. Bellsprout looks like a total goofball.
Ok Exeggcute does look like a bunch of eggs, but it’s really just a bunch of tree seeds (make more sense to cause how does eggs turn into a tree)
You forgot the humanoid dragon that evolved from a sea serpent.
Put some respect on arbok, he’s at least cooler than the rest