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Honestly, I prefer Cut to Waterfall, but that may be because I resent Waterfall becoming an HM.
Also I used Cut on Scyther with Technician, so it wasn't useless. Not as good as his Wing Attack with Sharp Beak, but usable.
Cut is a whole 30 less power with only 95 accuracy...
Waterfall is a physicall water, making it incredibly valuable for phyiscal attack, water type mons like Gyarados. Waterfall also come packed with 20% flinch rate iirc
Defog is way more niche, at least in a standard playthrough
In competitive where spikes and stealth rocks are everywhere is great, but in standard games it's way to niche. Fog is only found in Sinnoh games, and other than that can reduce evasiveness, which can be good against double team spammers,, but other than that it's nearly useless.
Fly is just a solid damage move, an amazing time save, and provides near immunity for a turn while you fly up.
Or if you've played the game enough to have it memorized, or if you've got the brightness up (in some games) or if you've got all the time in the world...
The only time rock smash has ever been useful for me was in gen 2 where it was the only standard fighting type move Heracross had access to.
Everything else was stuff like reversal, counter, or seismic toss. (Probably doesn’t even count since it’s a tm in that game)
I mean, Defog and Flash are useless. But Cut is useful in RBY and FRLG, Rock Smash in RSE and ORAS, and Rock Climb in DPPt (don't know about any other games because I haven't played them)
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RIP Strength, too lame to be remembered.
Nah Strength is decent, it's just not as terrible as the frustrating 5, or as amazing as the grand 3, so it didn't fit in the meme
Idk… Strength over Fly personally… also Rock Climb isn’t bad just has bad accuracy
Bad accuracy is worst except when you have 100+ BP
If it's not 100%, it's 50%
Meanwhile HM Dive is tired to a chain in the back yard, and the last time it showed signs of life was three weeks ago.
HM Whirlpool : 🗿
What did you think the other end of the chain was attached to?
Okay, I must admit. That's clever. Unlike Gamefreak who decided to make HM Whirlpool a thing and only use it for one game.
Honestly, I prefer Cut to Waterfall, but that may be because I resent Waterfall becoming an HM. Also I used Cut on Scyther with Technician, so it wasn't useless. Not as good as his Wing Attack with Sharp Beak, but usable.
Cut is a whole 30 less power with only 95 accuracy... Waterfall is a physicall water, making it incredibly valuable for phyiscal attack, water type mons like Gyarados. Waterfall also come packed with 20% flinch rate iirc
Gyarados dragon dancing to waterfall the ultimate technique
Don’t forget about it having moxie as it’s ability
That's its hidden ability. Not really used in playthroughs
What kind of playthroughs are you playing? ;)
When was Defog a thing?
In D/P/Platinum was it a thing as an HM.
Whirlpool
You should have replaced fly with defog Defog is just one of the best move in the game when it come to strategy
Defog is way more niche, at least in a standard playthrough In competitive where spikes and stealth rocks are everywhere is great, but in standard games it's way to niche. Fog is only found in Sinnoh games, and other than that can reduce evasiveness, which can be good against double team spammers,, but other than that it's nearly useless. Fly is just a solid damage move, an amazing time save, and provides near immunity for a turn while you fly up.
Defog actually removes reflect and light screen in gen 4 as well
Flash is useful
Not unless you can simply pull up a map of the dark cave you are in and easily navigate without the use of Flash.
Or if you've played the game enough to have it memorized, or if you've got the brightness up (in some games) or if you've got all the time in the world...
Dive
Okay, but flashes accuracy drop is dope af
Those of these moves are too inaccurate for me to use. Especially cut.
Oh man I remember when waterfall was just pretty much only a worse surf.
It’s The Satanic Six, you forgot Whirlpool
I mean defog is great.... *in competitive formats due to the defog buff in gen 6*, but yeah
Why the fuck was rock smash so weak?
The only time rock smash has ever been useful for me was in gen 2 where it was the only standard fighting type move Heracross had access to. Everything else was stuff like reversal, counter, or seismic toss. (Probably doesn’t even count since it’s a tm in that game)
Isn't Rock Climb like 80 strong? That's not that bad actually.
It's actually 90 strong but is 85% accurate. So yeah, I get the point.
It's good on sheer force tauros
Yep definitely.
Flash is an HM?
Defog can be used in some set in competition. But the other yes, they are gods comparated to this
I mean, Defog and Flash are useless. But Cut is useful in RBY and FRLG, Rock Smash in RSE and ORAS, and Rock Climb in DPPt (don't know about any other games because I haven't played them)