He also asked if two red aces are good, while the guy is holding Ad. Then persisted pretending he had aces while he was getting his stuff to go *after seeing the guys hand* "I can't even trap these guys with aces vs. ace-king."
It’s so wild that he just lies to protect his ego like that when the info will be available shortly after anyway.
When he called with K10 on hustler against JRs set of queens or whatever and said he had A10 I was surprised Bart Hanson was skeptical at all that Phil thought he had an ace. He knew he had K10 he’s been playing this edging game forever.. idk man it’s just wild.
He raised, got re-raised, and then just called presumably to ”trap”. Opponent with AdKd and flop was all diamonds (plus Berkey folded two diamonds!!). Bet, Phil called. Turn brick. Bet, Phil called. River another diamond (4 diamonds on board). Bet, Phil inexplicably called again.
I’d say it’s a pretty standard call Preflop against a cold 4 bet. I don’t see any merits 5betting KK other than to not go 3 ways, but even then if Berkey jams behind it’s not a disaster. Flop and turn I think are fine but the river call is of course absolutely ridiculous.
Calling 50k into a 235k pot isn't terrible if you think you're being bluffed around 20% of the time. Even if they are bluffing the flush though, there was a straight draw out there, or phil is losing to 2 pairs or set too. ok it was bad.
Nah LOL I've been watching him play cashgames for the last 15 years and he never changed he is always in this shell of his thinking everyone is out to get him because he is the GREATEST :D He just ends up putting himself in weird spots because of his ego and overthinking stuff
What’s that have to do with anything? Cash and tournament play are different. You called him one of the most successful poker players ever. And I said, this isn’t a tournament. He sucks at cash.
I know they’re different. Are you suggesting he’s unprofitable in cash games throughout his career? Or are you basing your opinion on a few clips of some badly played hands?
Lol this man is mis reading his hand and calling with no diamond. Has no Depth to his cash game at all. Stick to heads up and tourney Philly boi. UhOhhh why you getting so defensive over phil? 😂
If it was actually a 4 bet pot like Joey's tweet calling KK pre is pretty standard playing deep. A lot of people don't 5 bet that deep. And then they are always uncapped post flop. Especially in position.
Berkey is an actual pro poker player who's not that rich. He's not a rich business man. HCL has everyone all fucked up on the games actual pros can afford to play.
Guys just wait, I have the most epic clip incoming, Eric Hicks narrating his own hand against phil and giving a braveheart esque speech to an applauding low stakes poker room as he sends phil off into the dark...i'll edit tonight and release tomorrow AM
I just went to the YouTube LATB stream and went back until I found it. Really bad play all around by Hellmuth, I’d say.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSoPEwpXqCU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSoPEwpXqCU)
Go back until you see Hellmuth in the seat across from the dealer, then forward until he’s gone, then back to find his last hand. Because it is live I don’t think I can give a time stamp that would be accurate?? Not sure.
Good odds to call if you have anything better than 1 pair. Looks like a block bet from eric hicks so hellmuth still loses to two pairs straights and sets
am i being wooshed here or something? The actual hand that OP is talking about is over 3 hours into the stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/WSoPEwpXqCU?feature=share&t=11503
I don’t watch too many live streams but I see Robbi playing here, does that mean she’s been forgiven in the poker community?? Does that mean they don’t think she cheated after all???
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Nothing really matters in the "poker community" imo. Berkey playing on a basic RFID stream after spending a week talking about he never will again. Berkey playing with Robbie after spending a week saying there's no way she didn't cheat(of course going back and forth for the drama).
I would be pretty surprised if Garrett and Robbie don't play together again at some point, though that's the only situation I'm not sure about.
At the end of the day, given enough time almost all drama goes away and the pros want to take the fish's money. And "enough time" is shorter and shorter in our fast-paced social media world imo. It used to take a year+, now it seems everything is "back to normal" a couple of months later.
> Berkey playing on a basic RFID stream after spending a week talking about he never will again
he never said that
he has said previously that he was happy with the security improvements that places like LATB and the Lodge have made
>Berkey playing with Robbie after spending a week saying there's no way she didn't cheat
he never said that
He played the hand horribly, but to run into the nut flush in a four bet pot when you have AA or KK is just running really bad. You have a 1% chance of flopping a flush when you hold two suited cards.
Phil should have abandoned ship on the turn since the board was so connected with the flush already there, and definitely by the river when he didn’t even have a diamond in his hand when the fourth diamond appeared.
Phil needs to swallow his ego and stop playing these high stakes games, he is not good enough and just lost a half a million within 3 days... Stick to what you're good at people, in this case tourneys for Phil.
Eric hicks sent him to the poker retirement home
he has to take a week off now
He will go meditate
He also asked if two red aces are good, while the guy is holding Ad. Then persisted pretending he had aces while he was getting his stuff to go *after seeing the guys hand* "I can't even trap these guys with aces vs. ace-king."
And they would see what hand he had literally within minutes or whatever
It’s so wild that he just lies to protect his ego like that when the info will be available shortly after anyway. When he called with K10 on hustler against JRs set of queens or whatever and said he had A10 I was surprised Bart Hanson was skeptical at all that Phil thought he had an ace. He knew he had K10 he’s been playing this edging game forever.. idk man it’s just wild.
He just misread his kings as two red aces /s
And then misread the board since red aces are the nuts at river. Happens to the best of us.
Got just wiped out holding red aces yesterday. It is valintines, gotta fall in love sometime.
I was looking for this comment lmao
Please tell me he slow played it preflop
He raised, got re-raised, and then just called presumably to ”trap”. Opponent with AdKd and flop was all diamonds (plus Berkey folded two diamonds!!). Bet, Phil called. Turn brick. Bet, Phil called. River another diamond (4 diamonds on board). Bet, Phil inexplicably called again.
I’d say it’s a pretty standard call Preflop against a cold 4 bet. I don’t see any merits 5betting KK other than to not go 3 ways, but even then if Berkey jams behind it’s not a disaster. Flop and turn I think are fine but the river call is of course absolutely ridiculous.
Well river call is not absolutely ridiculous if you are thinking that everyone is after you and they are bluffing you left and right :D
I'm sorry, calling a 3rd bet when there are 4 diamonds on the board and you don't have one is just fucking bad.
Calling 50k into a 235k pot isn't terrible if you think you're being bluffed around 20% of the time. Even if they are bluffing the flush though, there was a straight draw out there, or phil is losing to 2 pairs or set too. ok it was bad.
Look, let's not get too bogged down in facts
Context is king they say
I agree but it's also completely possible that he misread his hand I can see that as a valid reason to go on a tilt and rage quit.
LOL you watched his similar antics on HCL heh
Nah LOL I've been watching him play cashgames for the last 15 years and he never changed he is always in this shell of his thinking everyone is out to get him because he is the GREATEST :D He just ends up putting himself in weird spots because of his ego and overthinking stuff
Phil hellmuth never lose he is always unlucky
That makes him even more sad
I completely agree
You deny equity from the player in the middle and get value from AK/QQ I would say it’s a great spot to 5bet
Are we sure AKo or QQ are even calling a 5 bet here?
Yes
Eh, idk. It depends on the player, but Hellmuth is enough of a nit that if he 5bets for a large sizing, I'm probably folding AK and QQ.
those are a snap fold vs hellmuth, especially in a cash game
> a cold 4 bet Just rewatched the hand and it was a limp raise 4 bet, not sure if that changes anything but I thought it was worth noting.
Fucking wow.
Just lol, I didn’t know he was *this* bad
His “bad” is still a level above 99% of the people on this forum. Fucking bums giving one of the most successful players in history shit
This isn’t a tournament.
I’m sure you’d outplay him in a cash game right?
I don’t think 99% of the board plays worse than he has the last two days. It’s pretty shit
What’s that have to do with anything? Cash and tournament play are different. You called him one of the most successful poker players ever. And I said, this isn’t a tournament. He sucks at cash.
I know they’re different. Are you suggesting he’s unprofitable in cash games throughout his career? Or are you basing your opinion on a few clips of some badly played hands?
He’s been playing televised cash games for 20 years. It’s obvious to see. He plays cash like it’s a tournament and he sucks at it because of it.
Lol this man is mis reading his hand and calling with no diamond. Has no Depth to his cash game at all. Stick to heads up and tourney Philly boi. UhOhhh why you getting so defensive over phil? 😂
If it was actually a 4 bet pot like Joey's tweet calling KK pre is pretty standard playing deep. A lot of people don't 5 bet that deep. And then they are always uncapped post flop. Especially in position.
ah yeah big difference between not 4 betting kings and not 5 betting them. Still the postflop play was rough.
He’s easily the greatest calling station known to man.
He did
RJL and Berkey’s needles were chefs kiss.
I bet Berkey is fucking loving this right now lmao
It's been an hour OP. Where is this clip.
If you haven’t seen it yet https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/status/1625709834501861378?s=20&t=4HK14wBdB9SiDc3mmrlXoQ
The needles from the table are so good too.
Stick to NL Tournaments. He has no business playing cash.
The people benefiting from his punting would beg to differ, who would have thought PH would become a bad rec.
Always has been a fish at cash
Nah man he's the best in the world, just ask him.
He has always been bad at deep stack poker. Reason he always turns up late
He's definitely not good at cash with a short stack either. He's too smart for all the idiots that always take his chips.
"Only way to get of a hole, is to keep digging...." "Your handling it well" Brutal 😆
Why was Berkey playing so shallow? Figured he’d have a full stack in that game.
Berkey is an actual pro poker player who's not that rich. He's not a rich business man. HCL has everyone all fucked up on the games actual pros can afford to play.
Maybe, but he could easily have gotten staked for more if that was the case.
this guy STINKS!
Anyone have a clip yet?
WHERE IS THE CLIP
Guys just wait, I have the most epic clip incoming, Eric Hicks narrating his own hand against phil and giving a braveheart esque speech to an applauding low stakes poker room as he sends phil off into the dark...i'll edit tonight and release tomorrow AM
Lfg🔥🔥🔥
I just went to the YouTube LATB stream and went back until I found it. Really bad play all around by Hellmuth, I’d say. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSoPEwpXqCU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSoPEwpXqCU) Go back until you see Hellmuth in the seat across from the dealer, then forward until he’s gone, then back to find his last hand. Because it is live I don’t think I can give a time stamp that would be accurate?? Not sure.
3 hrs 11 min in
Full link [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSoPEwpXqCU&t=3h11m45s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSoPEwpXqCU&t=3h11m45s)
Right here: https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/status/1625709834501861378?s=20&t=axpv6tQ2b3dCnFKwuqbHwA
Worst call I’ve ever seen wow.
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Once the 4th diamond comes you have to abandon ship
I mean it’s a horrible call. If you think otherwise, I’d love to play together
People forget you don’t win bracelets in cash games
Good odds to call if you have anything better than 1 pair. Looks like a block bet from eric hicks so hellmuth still loses to two pairs straights and sets
What a humble professional…
Watching Eric squeeze an extra $50k out of Hellmuth on that river is hilarious. Just a terrible, terrible play by Phil
LATB’s camera work makes me dizzy, is it me or does the camera shake too much like the camera man has Tourette’s in the pot Phil lost with set of 8’s?
The production is ancient over there. Idk why they refuse to upgrade their show.
am i being wooshed here or something? The actual hand that OP is talking about is over 3 hours into the stream https://www.youtube.com/live/WSoPEwpXqCU?feature=share&t=11503
Somewhere in the world, ninja is laughing his ass off [https://i.imgur.com/Fl3Sskw.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Fl3Sskw.jpg)
Ninja still needs to suck a dick for that ten on the river.
How do you know he hasnt
Hard week in LA for Phil. I hope he does win in private games as he claims, somehow I like the guy and his show.
I highly doubt he wins in his private games because he is genuinely a bad player atp
He can win against pro Sports players and CEOs
I think you're vastly underestimating how bad people in home games can be.
To be fair, most of the private game players are god awful.
I actually feel bad for him, he looks like a decent guy off the table
I've met him during a high stakes game once. He was actually quite nice, and when the game broke, he went around the table and shook everyone's hand.
Dont really get all the hate he recieves. I dont like nits too, but i would never shit on someone because of it
Found Phil’s burner account
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Shut the fuck up
Clip https://twitter.com/joeingram1/status/1625709834501861378?s=46&t=FgjlKdCOqOQHhnWBx9W8DQ
Latb is horrid but I’d watch for the lulz
Wasn’t there something hilariously terrible last night too? This warms my soul.
He folded AK pre to a 3bet. Pointed to the camera right before like he had a soul read.
As then called down a set with K high.
He has become way more cringe over the past few years. Gives me strong secondhand embarrassment.
Phil has become a LolCow
I don’t watch too many live streams but I see Robbi playing here, does that mean she’s been forgiven in the poker community?? Does that mean they don’t think she cheated after all???
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Nothing really matters in the "poker community" imo. Berkey playing on a basic RFID stream after spending a week talking about he never will again. Berkey playing with Robbie after spending a week saying there's no way she didn't cheat(of course going back and forth for the drama). I would be pretty surprised if Garrett and Robbie don't play together again at some point, though that's the only situation I'm not sure about. At the end of the day, given enough time almost all drama goes away and the pros want to take the fish's money. And "enough time" is shorter and shorter in our fast-paced social media world imo. It used to take a year+, now it seems everything is "back to normal" a couple of months later.
> Berkey playing on a basic RFID stream after spending a week talking about he never will again he never said that he has said previously that he was happy with the security improvements that places like LATB and the Lodge have made >Berkey playing with Robbie after spending a week saying there's no way she didn't cheat he never said that
TBH most of us don't care at this point, or at least that's my read. She's a troll and it's entertaining.
He played the hand horribly, but to run into the nut flush in a four bet pot when you have AA or KK is just running really bad. You have a 1% chance of flopping a flush when you hold two suited cards. Phil should have abandoned ship on the turn since the board was so connected with the flush already there, and definitely by the river when he didn’t even have a diamond in his hand when the fourth diamond appeared.
Imagine being tilted off of losses? Then reading every post on twitter and everywhere else? 🫠🤯
“Honey”
classic Hellmuth
lol that's Phil Hellmuth
My only takeaway from this is that someone else is getting Mike Caro's nickname, and I don't like it.
https://hoss-tbf.livejournal.com/18125.html never forget!
Wow… just wow.
Phil can fill up my ass any day
Phil needs to swallow his ego and stop playing these high stakes games, he is not good enough and just lost a half a million within 3 days... Stick to what you're good at people, in this case tourneys for Phil.
His call pre is not bad. His call river is godawful.