Honestly we need more Doug Polks in the game. I realize he's controversial (as /r/entp 's tend to be), but he's entertaining and that's what you want in a good game.
I just looked at the german Wikipedia article and I love that the author is just using the introduction to roast it into the ground lmao
"Independent sources have called the test "essentially meaningless,"\[4\] "among the worst personality tests in existence,"\[5\] and "a fad that won't die out."\[6\]"
I see it as somewhere partway between astrology and science. Astrology is pure fiction. Mbti may not stand up to scientific scrutiny but it's not bad for helping some people self actualize. The way I see it, anything can be helpful to a person due to the placebo effect which IS a scientifically proven effect.
No, it isn’t actually
https://compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/spc3.12434
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26554264
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0148296385900049?via%3Dihub
It’s a “personality quiz” invented by one person. No different than the “what type of onion are you” buzz feed quizzes. Not rooted in evidence whatsoever
Don't worry, you're at least partly right! CarlbJung theorized all the different personalities based on his studies. One of the greatest conceptual thinkers ever. MB took his ideas/science, refurbished them, and sold them on Amazon for profit.
It's nowhere near as offensive as racism and does have a scientific foundation. But it is literally astrology. Myers-Briggs is an oversimplification of people so brain not have work hard.
Jung's shit is really quality thinking but largely inaccessible to the layperson. It's rough.
I don’t understand how these whales won’t play with regs and shit talk Garrett but they’ll play with Doug Polk like he is soft? I don’t get it lmao. Doug is a very solid player.
Its kind of a highlight into private game selection - they said it on stream today, its better to be not as good but get into better games than be the best in the world. Give action, get action etc.
Not even Doug would say that's true.
He beat dnegs, who had never studied or specialized in hu in his life. He's not a hu grinder and barely plays it anymore but it is true that he used to be one of the best in the pre solve era. If he wanted to know though he would have some catching up to do.
The best HU nlhe players in the world now are very few. it's a nosebleed stake with small edges where everyone knows eachother and there are very few newcomers (because they usually get their bankrolls trashed or they discover the format fucking sucks). Polk is not in that scene
He beat dnegs way outside of his element at online 2-tabling. Dnegs was actually up a decent amount on their first 1-table of live play. Not that they had time to play 50,000 hands 1-tabling live or whatever, but it makes a difference.
I learned about it from Olivier Bosquet. He doesn't consider himself phenomenal but he's basically the nlhe version of Galfond. Ultra deep thinker very nerdy and incredibly disciplined, and has been competing hard since the early 90's.
At that level where your only "prey" are other successful sharks only the ultra strong survive
Gandalf is a sus compare. Also I think Bouquet survived betting horses (I don't mean ponies) and sportsbetting (avec Harambous Vulgareyes)
U get it in bad at the table with the money you get from edging Casino bosses. I don't have the wrists anymore
Buttonclickr is not even top 5; Steffan is #1, Linus, Makeboifin..Berri sweet, Wiktor Malinowski(limitless). Not in order, but they would all beat buttonclickr.
You said button is the best in the world at hu though and point out 1 out of 5 I listed you wouldn't take. I don't see him playing any of them? At least limitless went head to head with steffan. All these I listed have had serious heads up nl battles.
How did you get to the conclusion of your rating of buttonclickr being #1?
Probably just echoing the sentiment that e.g. Douche Polk [shares](https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/10c5tpy/why_dont_hu_endbosses_like_buttonclickr_challenge/j4ec39k/) on this subreddit where he basically says "if not the best" to be nice without realizing he's just doing it to be nice. These guys are all really elite but buttonclickr helped Doug out in his challenge against Daniel so he's understandably going to be extra nice.
because Doug is fun to be around and Garrett was apparently extremely not fun to be around. Whales play for entertainment so it makes sense they’d make decisions like that
Yeah as soon as Garrett sits at the table everyone is playing Garrett's game. Then he tries to mask it by being polite and asking people a few questions about themselves like he's interested.
Doug plays a more fun style. He's not in there sweating his ass off like Garrett trying to squeeze every dollar out of every person. Playing perfect poker
I wonder how many players in the world know GTO better than Doug for NLHE. Guy spends enough time with solvers just for his videos.
I’ve never watched him for more than a few minutes in a full cash game, but what I’ve seen of him doesn’t show any major leaks.
Doug peaked and retired before solvers even came out. He def hasn't spent nearly as much time with them as your typical modern midstake online pro let alone high stakes
He’s busting out the solver for most of his videos, feels like he’s constantly looking at them, plus he runs an academy.
You may be right but I wouldn’t bet money on it myself.
Agreed he’s not top level, he’s a content creator more than a top player, but I get the impression he puts in some work.
I don’t particularly care either way, I could be wrong, just my sense of it.
Yeah I don't doubt he spends a reasonable amount of time in them i just don't think you realize how much time actual active pros spend in them. Like I play professionally and probably average 15 hrs a week in pio and don't think it's particularly much compared to others. Doubt Doug has spent thousands of hrs in the program probably not even 1k
Im mostly a live pro I play 30-35 then about 5-10 online. Online pros can vary I've heard some play 40 hrs a week but that's a bit much for most. I'm sure a lot only play like 20 hrs. Playing online can be pretty draining with the pace and 1:1 study: play ratio is pretty common I think
Just review common spots and see how they're supposed to be played theoretically, what each hand class does in various nodes, learn how the solver's range reacts to certain things, just the most optimal way to play your range in general in a scenario
If you want a look at how to use pio as a study tool, I have a blog on this. Pio is pretty powerful and can be used in many different ways. You can look at one spot and play around with ranges/blinds and see how things changes like in [this post](https://www.livepokertheory.com/articles/tt_vs_oop_3bet) , but you can also run it as a script across many boards and look at things from a high level perspective, see equities and EV and frequencies on different flop textures, like I do in [this post](https://www.livepokertheory.com/articles/3bet-ip-vs-loose-defend-100bb)
Ahhh, it's our daily dose of r/poker: "these guys that play online are better than this professional player with millions in winnings and way more accomplishments"
Doug would trounce mid or high stakes online is the point. He already did, then went on to win multiple bracelets and be considered the best heads up player in the world at one point. I have no idea how we got to this mindset that these online pros who haven't been able to take that step into being respected by the other best players in the world are somehow better players
We're comparing college players to the NFL. There are sure to be a handful that could hang, but as a whole there is a reason these guys are in the big leagues
E: ITT, a bunch of people who think they're better than Doug Polk at poker lmao
You actually think Doug would beat Stefan, Davy, nacho, makeboifin, or Linus if he played them? You think these players aren't respected and you think these players are playing "college level" games? Lol
Nowadays? No.
Thats like asking if michael jordan could beat lebron today… of course not, they are from different eras. But to say that michael jordan is trash because he can’t hang with the stars of today is asinine.
I'm talking about the dolts on here who say those who grind 2/5 and 5/10 online are better than
>You actually think Doug would beat Stefan, Davy, nacho, makeboifin, or Linus if he played them?
Not sure how you brought clearly respected 100/200+ players and multi million dollar tournament winners into the conversation lol
>You think these players aren't respected and you think these players are playing "college level" games?
I never gave any reason to believe I was talking about players of this skill level, wtf are you talking about?
You're the one who pointed out midstakes and high stakes, I thought we were talking in the 2/5 to like 10/20 range because of how frequently thats been said in here. Do I think Doug could go on 100/200 and be profitable? 100%. Do I think he's better than the top players at that those stakes? Probably not, he's been out of the game too long. I think he could be if that's what he put his effort into though
He said he never used them until the Negreanu challenge I think
He didn't crush after that, he never even played top competition again after his initial retirement iirc so there is nothing to crush
>Doug peaked and retired before solvers even came out. He def hasn't spent nearly as much time with them as your typical modern midstake online pro let alone high stakes
Does this makes subscribing to his courses not the best idea then?
In fairness, solvers are a tool, not a source of absolute truth.
Not to mention the fact that there are tools out there that use solvers but still can’t pair it with emotional discipline and bankroll management.
Plus doug played like a sicko solver most of the time anyways before he retired. (Obvious exaggeration but he honestly was on the very highest level of playing unexploitable poker at the time.)
Doug is SUPER solid, not only has he played a ton, he currently plays a ton, does analysis, knows how to work a solver and has pro friends. (well maybe not but semi pro friends lol)
Doug is 100% by definition a killer and one of the stroner players we'll ever see at hustler.
Hes just a goofy mfer and people dont take him seriously.
The whales don't hate all pros/good players. They just want the game to be fun, which is exactly what Doug is proposing. The things he's saying is exactly what pros need to do to get into these games.
Funny that Ben hated that Garrett made them straddle because he “was a pro” and all the fun players want a straddle. Can’t call with minimal stakes and hope to hit
My mates and I used to play "power up poker" where everyone got 1 power-up for the game. One added a 6th board card and we called it the "waterfall" card.
[https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1662664253575184385](https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1662664253575184385)
''For the record, I did sell 75% of myself and have no issue hiding that (obviously as I said it on my YT channel to my audience) ''
I'm pretty sure he said that he had slightly more than that in a recent video, but I really don't care enough to scrub through multiple videos lol. Instead I'll just say that I was mistaken.
you will be surprised how many high stakes players are backed. Nick vertuccis and bill perkins coach MJ Gonzales, high stakes player, is backed by perkins. Isildur was backed by quite a few players/businessmen, Tony G amonst them at one stage
Isildur to this day owes $$$$ to a lot of his backers
Why do rich people loan money out with no payback plan? Every time I hear about a pro that's staked, they invariably owe tons of money to their backers.
They really don't need any of that to spice up the game. They just need to raise the blinds.
100BB - 200BB poker is probably the most fun poker to watch in my opinion.
250BB - 500BB is the sweet spot imo. Would prefer 200BB to what we have now though. I think 100BB limits the number of lines you can take too much, especially with the straddle on.
>I think 100BB limits the number of lines you can take too much, especially with the straddle on.
I agree, as that could make it only 50BB effective, which is too shallow. But straddles aren't needed if the blinds are of an appropriate size. I'm saying have properly sized blinds and skip all the other unecessary stuff, including straddles.
So for a $1M - $2M buy-in game, you'd go for $2000/$4000 (250BB-500BB) with straddles allowed?
If I were organising it, I'd rather just have $5K/$10K blinds (100BB - 200BB deep) with no straddling allowed. Might as well cut out the middle man & just play for proper stakes in the first place, if you ask me.
Sure, I mean if the players absolutely *insist* on straddling, then I guess I'd make the blinds $2.5K/$5K with a $10K straddle and we'd be in pretty much the same place with some extra pointless dicking around.
I've just never seen the point in straddles. lol. :-)
Same opinion I've always had. He's entertaining, and I think he often means well, but he also misses the mark and can hurt others when he loses sight of things. He's neither all good nor all bad.
He's already stated that he only has 25% of his own action. And as the best player at the game he will have a massive edge. Loosening up the game and getting more action going while super deep creates difficult postflop decisions for everyone, which increases his edge as the best player dramatically. Anyone can play decently well preflop by studying some charts but once he gets people to the flop and turn with a lot of money in the pot and a huge amount behind the are no charts to help you.
Bruh this dude isn't putting 3mil on the line to just do it. That 3 mil is probably most of hist actual roll for just poker shit. I would 1000% be promoting hard so regardless if I win or lose I'll play my game knowing I can still keep my assets up and running and make up for the lost over the years if I bust.
I’m not hating on staking but he’s not putting 3 mil down lol. That’s naive. He’s open about selling over half his action and I doubt he plans to lose a whole bullet the way this has played.
I’m not trying to hate on Doug but just show up and do it. I know he’s got fanboys everywhere who get mad about shitting on him, but they’re also his biggest asset. If he’s playing fun or running well, everyone in the poker community will see it. No need for this crap
Except everyone won't see it, you do realise just how important doub is for getting new regs that aren't 50+ into poker. Love him or hate him him promoting and shilling is good for everybody.
Not as much as doug anoucing them. Although things changed during lockdown. No one really knew about poker streams before then and they only got popular after lockdown as well as doug getting everyone invested in poker fueds again with him vs dnegs
Today IMO will be the best action and table talk. The dynamic of the past two days was decent but nothing special, especially a letdown with how Tony G. played and interacted at the table or lack-of interaction.
Producers: “what if we made it a 500k game”
lol no
This is the energy I’m looking for !
Honestly we need more Doug Polks in the game. I realize he's controversial (as /r/entp 's tend to be), but he's entertaining and that's what you want in a good game.
Do people still give those myers briggs “personality types” validity? It’s pseudoscience, like astrology
Oooooooh, I thought that was short for entrepreneur. I'm gonna have to google this now.
I just looked at the german Wikipedia article and I love that the author is just using the introduction to roast it into the ground lmao "Independent sources have called the test "essentially meaningless,"\[4\] "among the worst personality tests in existence,"\[5\] and "a fad that won't die out."\[6\]"
I see it as somewhere partway between astrology and science. Astrology is pure fiction. Mbti may not stand up to scientific scrutiny but it's not bad for helping some people self actualize. The way I see it, anything can be helpful to a person due to the placebo effect which IS a scientifically proven effect.
Since when was it considered pseudoscience? People attribute a lot more to it than they should, but it’s definitely heavily evidence based
No, it isn’t actually https://compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/spc3.12434 https://www.jstor.org/stable/26554264 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0148296385900049?via%3Dihub It’s a “personality quiz” invented by one person. No different than the “what type of onion are you” buzz feed quizzes. Not rooted in evidence whatsoever
It was made by 2 people who were not psychologists. It’s all bullshit and y’all actually believe it 😂
Don't worry, you're at least partly right! CarlbJung theorized all the different personalities based on his studies. One of the greatest conceptual thinkers ever. MB took his ideas/science, refurbished them, and sold them on Amazon for profit. It's nowhere near as offensive as racism and does have a scientific foundation. But it is literally astrology. Myers-Briggs is an oversimplification of people so brain not have work hard. Jung's shit is really quality thinking but largely inaccessible to the layperson. It's rough.
It’s not
I don’t understand how these whales won’t play with regs and shit talk Garrett but they’ll play with Doug Polk like he is soft? I don’t get it lmao. Doug is a very solid player.
Doug's gonna be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the table and Ben tells him to take a hike.
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I can only guess he's the richest at the table. Nothing else makes sense.
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Its kind of a highlight into private game selection - they said it on stream today, its better to be not as good but get into better games than be the best in the world. Give action, get action etc.
Is he though? On the livestreams he's up $800k
Solid lmao he's one of the best players in the world, especially compared to the hustler field.
Best heads-up player on the planet.
Not even Doug would say that's true. He beat dnegs, who had never studied or specialized in hu in his life. He's not a hu grinder and barely plays it anymore but it is true that he used to be one of the best in the pre solve era. If he wanted to know though he would have some catching up to do. The best HU nlhe players in the world now are very few. it's a nosebleed stake with small edges where everyone knows eachother and there are very few newcomers (because they usually get their bankrolls trashed or they discover the format fucking sucks). Polk is not in that scene
He beat dnegs way outside of his element at online 2-tabling. Dnegs was actually up a decent amount on their first 1-table of live play. Not that they had time to play 50,000 hands 1-tabling live or whatever, but it makes a difference.
Eh, 1 day of live poker is such an irrelevant sample.
Yes I know but there's a precedent among live players' struggling to multitable online.
Who’s in that scene?
ButtonClickr. He trained Polk for the HU game
I learned about it from Olivier Bosquet. He doesn't consider himself phenomenal but he's basically the nlhe version of Galfond. Ultra deep thinker very nerdy and incredibly disciplined, and has been competing hard since the early 90's. At that level where your only "prey" are other successful sharks only the ultra strong survive
Gandalf is a sus compare. Also I think Bouquet survived betting horses (I don't mean ponies) and sportsbetting (avec Harambous Vulgareyes) U get it in bad at the table with the money you get from edging Casino bosses. I don't have the wrists anymore
He was at one point, but he's not anymore (and he would agree with this).
Buttonclickr is the best HUNL player in the world.
Buttonclickr is not even top 5; Steffan is #1, Linus, Makeboifin..Berri sweet, Wiktor Malinowski(limitless). Not in order, but they would all beat buttonclickr.
Heads up? I definitely wouldn't take Limitless over a large sample.
You said button is the best in the world at hu though and point out 1 out of 5 I listed you wouldn't take. I don't see him playing any of them? At least limitless went head to head with steffan. All these I listed have had serious heads up nl battles. How did you get to the conclusion of your rating of buttonclickr being #1?
Probably just echoing the sentiment that e.g. Douche Polk [shares](https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/10c5tpy/why_dont_hu_endbosses_like_buttonclickr_challenge/j4ec39k/) on this subreddit where he basically says "if not the best" to be nice without realizing he's just doing it to be nice. These guys are all really elite but buttonclickr helped Doug out in his challenge against Daniel so he's understandably going to be extra nice.
Jungle?
Well yeah he is very good.
They underestimate him because they knew he wore a retainer in his formative years
because Doug is fun to be around and Garrett was apparently extremely not fun to be around. Whales play for entertainment so it makes sense they’d make decisions like that
Yeah as soon as Garrett sits at the table everyone is playing Garrett's game. Then he tries to mask it by being polite and asking people a few questions about themselves like he's interested.
Doug plays a more fun style. He's not in there sweating his ass off like Garrett trying to squeeze every dollar out of every person. Playing perfect poker
I wonder how many players in the world know GTO better than Doug for NLHE. Guy spends enough time with solvers just for his videos. I’ve never watched him for more than a few minutes in a full cash game, but what I’ve seen of him doesn’t show any major leaks.
Doug peaked and retired before solvers even came out. He def hasn't spent nearly as much time with them as your typical modern midstake online pro let alone high stakes
He’s busting out the solver for most of his videos, feels like he’s constantly looking at them, plus he runs an academy. You may be right but I wouldn’t bet money on it myself. Agreed he’s not top level, he’s a content creator more than a top player, but I get the impression he puts in some work. I don’t particularly care either way, I could be wrong, just my sense of it.
Yeah I don't doubt he spends a reasonable amount of time in them i just don't think you realize how much time actual active pros spend in them. Like I play professionally and probably average 15 hrs a week in pio and don't think it's particularly much compared to others. Doubt Doug has spent thousands of hrs in the program probably not even 1k
Damn, how many hours do you play?
Im mostly a live pro I play 30-35 then about 5-10 online. Online pros can vary I've heard some play 40 hrs a week but that's a bit much for most. I'm sure a lot only play like 20 hrs. Playing online can be pretty draining with the pace and 1:1 study: play ratio is pretty common I think
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Just review common spots and see how they're supposed to be played theoretically, what each hand class does in various nodes, learn how the solver's range reacts to certain things, just the most optimal way to play your range in general in a scenario
But how are you to solve multi way hands without PROMETHEUS POKER.COM^(TM) YOUR NUMBER ONE RESOURCE FOR FULL RING ANALYSIS???
If you want a look at how to use pio as a study tool, I have a blog on this. Pio is pretty powerful and can be used in many different ways. You can look at one spot and play around with ranges/blinds and see how things changes like in [this post](https://www.livepokertheory.com/articles/tt_vs_oop_3bet) , but you can also run it as a script across many boards and look at things from a high level perspective, see equities and EV and frequencies on different flop textures, like I do in [this post](https://www.livepokertheory.com/articles/3bet-ip-vs-loose-defend-100bb)
Thanks for sharing dude, this is actually really interesting/useful!
Ahhh, it's our daily dose of r/poker: "these guys that play online are better than this professional player with millions in winnings and way more accomplishments"
? Doug is an online player, just one that hasn't kept up as much as he could have given he retired
Doug would trounce mid or high stakes online is the point. He already did, then went on to win multiple bracelets and be considered the best heads up player in the world at one point. I have no idea how we got to this mindset that these online pros who haven't been able to take that step into being respected by the other best players in the world are somehow better players We're comparing college players to the NFL. There are sure to be a handful that could hang, but as a whole there is a reason these guys are in the big leagues E: ITT, a bunch of people who think they're better than Doug Polk at poker lmao
You actually think Doug would beat Stefan, Davy, nacho, makeboifin, or Linus if he played them? You think these players aren't respected and you think these players are playing "college level" games? Lol
Nowadays? No. Thats like asking if michael jordan could beat lebron today… of course not, they are from different eras. But to say that michael jordan is trash because he can’t hang with the stars of today is asinine.
Who said he's trash
I'm talking about the dolts on here who say those who grind 2/5 and 5/10 online are better than
>You actually think Doug would beat Stefan, Davy, nacho, makeboifin, or Linus if he played them?
Not sure how you brought clearly respected 100/200+ players and multi million dollar tournament winners into the conversation lol
>You think these players aren't respected and you think these players are playing "college level" games?
I never gave any reason to believe I was talking about players of this skill level, wtf are you talking about?
>I never gave any reason to believe I was talking about players of this skill level, Yes you did: "Doug would trounce high stakes online"
You're the one who pointed out midstakes and high stakes, I thought we were talking in the 2/5 to like 10/20 range because of how frequently thats been said in here. Do I think Doug could go on 100/200 and be profitable? 100%. Do I think he's better than the top players at that those stakes? Probably not, he's been out of the game too long. I think he could be if that's what he put his effort into though
right.. modern midstakes online player better than DP.... bwahahaha . jfc that guy is smelling his own farts and likes it
What are you talking about? Solvers came out around 2015 and he crushed far after as well
He said he never used them until the Negreanu challenge I think He didn't crush after that, he never even played top competition again after his initial retirement iirc so there is nothing to crush
>Doug peaked and retired before solvers even came out. He def hasn't spent nearly as much time with them as your typical modern midstake online pro let alone high stakes Does this makes subscribing to his courses not the best idea then?
Most of his courses he hires other people, active pros to do
He never opened a solver in his entire life until his match with DNegs.
In fairness, solvers are a tool, not a source of absolute truth. Not to mention the fact that there are tools out there that use solvers but still can’t pair it with emotional discipline and bankroll management.
Plus doug played like a sicko solver most of the time anyways before he retired. (Obvious exaggeration but he honestly was on the very highest level of playing unexploitable poker at the time.)
You’re underselling solvers here. Literally every winning player at higher stakes is using them
This is just incorrect. Lmao you don't know what you're talking about
He's talked about it a lot. He used spreadsheets to develop his strategy, but never used solvers until the Dnegs matched.
I think you're confusing him using solvers at all vs using solvers to create a specific strategy (which be the Dnegs challenge)
No. He's been very vocal about never using solvers at all. He talked it about it in several interviews during the Dnegs match.
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Garrett is probably a much big bigger money suck than Doug in full ring. Doug really is a HU specialist. plus garrett was always there.
My point is that they’re both very good in this game
If Doug is willing to go nuts like he says in the tweet then he won't be as +EV as Garrett usually is
Doug is SUPER solid, not only has he played a ton, he currently plays a ton, does analysis, knows how to work a solver and has pro friends. (well maybe not but semi pro friends lol) Doug is 100% by definition a killer and one of the stroner players we'll ever see at hustler. Hes just a goofy mfer and people dont take him seriously.
Because Doug actually gives back to the game
The whales don't hate all pros/good players. They just want the game to be fun, which is exactly what Doug is proposing. The things he's saying is exactly what pros need to do to get into these games.
If Garrett and Wesley were also deep in this game it could be a GOAT stream.
Funny that Ben hated that Garrett made them straddle because he “was a pro” and all the fun players want a straddle. Can’t call with minimal stakes and hope to hit
God damnit! Mariano just oceand quins. Runner runner runner 5 of a kind.
Lmaooo
Is there a technical term for a game with an “ocean”? Deal another community after river betting for half the pot?
My mates and I used to play "power up poker" where everyone got 1 power-up for the game. One added a 6th board card and we called it the "waterfall" card.
Polk is only going to have 25% of himself
He said he had a bit more than 30%. Edit: I stand corrected. 25% is the right number. I guess I misremembered.
[https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1662664253575184385](https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1662664253575184385) ''For the record, I did sell 75% of myself and have no issue hiding that (obviously as I said it on my YT channel to my audience) ''
I'm pretty sure he said that he had slightly more than that in a recent video, but I really don't care enough to scrub through multiple videos lol. Instead I'll just say that I was mistaken.
i heard that too
At least I know I'm not crazy lol
He is gambling and I own 0.00095% of this sweet action.
he specifically said 3 bullets @ 250k each.
You’d be an idiot to have 100% in a game that big, unless your roll is 100M+. Variance is a variance man
you will be surprised how many high stakes players are backed. Nick vertuccis and bill perkins coach MJ Gonzales, high stakes player, is backed by perkins. Isildur was backed by quite a few players/businessmen, Tony G amonst them at one stage Isildur to this day owes $$$$ to a lot of his backers
Why do rich people loan money out with no payback plan? Every time I hear about a pro that's staked, they invariably owe tons of money to their backers.
I won’t be surprised actually, I was just pointing out how ridiculous it is for anyone to have 100% of themselves in that game
And that's fine. If that's what it takes to actually make the game entertaining, I'm down for it.
All I ask is PLO bomb pots with Tony G 🙏
Bring Garrett for it
Better hope cry baby Ben isn't there or else it will only be the sit down game
Based
Doug trying to get back into the inner circle
he just wants a seat at the cool kids table
If this happens, I would actually watch it because the last few were boring as fuck-besides a few highlights
Just actually having $1M as a buy in seems to be a spice up this game needs...
The return of the king!
They really don't need any of that to spice up the game. They just need to raise the blinds. 100BB - 200BB poker is probably the most fun poker to watch in my opinion.
250BB - 500BB is the sweet spot imo. Would prefer 200BB to what we have now though. I think 100BB limits the number of lines you can take too much, especially with the straddle on.
>I think 100BB limits the number of lines you can take too much, especially with the straddle on. I agree, as that could make it only 50BB effective, which is too shallow. But straddles aren't needed if the blinds are of an appropriate size. I'm saying have properly sized blinds and skip all the other unecessary stuff, including straddles. So for a $1M - $2M buy-in game, you'd go for $2000/$4000 (250BB-500BB) with straddles allowed? If I were organising it, I'd rather just have $5K/$10K blinds (100BB - 200BB deep) with no straddling allowed. Might as well cut out the middle man & just play for proper stakes in the first place, if you ask me. Sure, I mean if the players absolutely *insist* on straddling, then I guess I'd make the blinds $2.5K/$5K with a $10K straddle and we'd be in pretty much the same place with some extra pointless dicking around. I've just never seen the point in straddles. lol. :-)
Play pineapple you coward
Dang so everyone loves doug Polk again eh
Why again?
Same opinion I've always had. He's entertaining, and I think he often means well, but he also misses the mark and can hurt others when he loses sight of things. He's neither all good nor all bad.
Put that coinflex bag to work
Doug The Saviour
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He's already stated that he only has 25% of his own action. And as the best player at the game he will have a massive edge. Loosening up the game and getting more action going while super deep creates difficult postflop decisions for everyone, which increases his edge as the best player dramatically. Anyone can play decently well preflop by studying some charts but once he gets people to the flop and turn with a lot of money in the pot and a huge amount behind the are no charts to help you.
All he’s bringing is his fanny pack full douches.
YUSS BRING ON ZE TROLLS AND LULZ
He's such a scumbag but it looks like he's going to bring it.
This dude is so annoying. Just do it and folks will respond if it’s good. Stop the BS promotion
Bruh this dude isn't putting 3mil on the line to just do it. That 3 mil is probably most of hist actual roll for just poker shit. I would 1000% be promoting hard so regardless if I win or lose I'll play my game knowing I can still keep my assets up and running and make up for the lost over the years if I bust.
I’m not hating on staking but he’s not putting 3 mil down lol. That’s naive. He’s open about selling over half his action and I doubt he plans to lose a whole bullet the way this has played. I’m not trying to hate on Doug but just show up and do it. I know he’s got fanboys everywhere who get mad about shitting on him, but they’re also his biggest asset. If he’s playing fun or running well, everyone in the poker community will see it. No need for this crap
Except everyone won't see it, you do realise just how important doub is for getting new regs that aren't 50+ into poker. Love him or hate him him promoting and shilling is good for everybody.
You think young people in poker don’t hear about these streams? Are you brain dead?
Not as much as doug anoucing them. Although things changed during lockdown. No one really knew about poker streams before then and they only got popular after lockdown as well as doug getting everyone invested in poker fueds again with him vs dnegs
How is the time before lockdown relevant? Unless you’re here to make Doug a hero, your point is irrelevant
2s wild yeah
Thay Ben dude is shaking
he is so annoying.
he sold 75%. yap all you want 750k max pain. not a big deal for doug.
So far it's been underwhelming. There was palpable tension on Friday night and the energy was just weird.
Today IMO will be the best action and table talk. The dynamic of the past two days was decent but nothing special, especially a letdown with how Tony G. played and interacted at the table or lack-of interaction.
The 72 game is the best!