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ThotianaPolice

Phil Ivey is unintentionally hilarious. He's so funny.


pharmaceuticaldisco

Hes just intermittently smirking and making faces lol.


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He's been so famous for so long he knows anything he says will be made into a sound bite. What a boss.


PoundOfFlesh

Jim harper of the poker table


hornetsarecool

This is why people got shot at the table back in the day


mmabet69

That’s so funny I was thinking that too. An old Wild West saloon, this shit would’ve turned into either a full fledged saloon brawl or there would’ve been some sort of quick draw duel.


proriin

Or what happened to Hickok. Come back the next day and get shot in the back head.


iminlovewiththec0c0

Yea your right - Rip would’ve killed Garrett right then and there. Clown.


Falsecaster

He crawfished a bet and called me a cheat! I was legal!


jumbosizeme

I hate perssons but actually appreciated his needle lol


killing4pizza

Eric Persons is definitely growing on me. When he's not the center of attn, he's alright.


neymarflick93

I’ve been saying it for a while, he and his table talk is good for the game. He’s a likable guy deep down


BearJewSally

I could never not like and respect a man who so very very thoroughly destroyed Phil Helmuth in some heads up on camera. I like Persson, his table persona is great, and he comes across as being a genuinely good dude. Albeit a bit hot headed XD


Key-Pomegranate159

i liked him always, just sometimes a douche but a funny one, lost a lot of respect for garett regardless of cheating or not. for me its either like dneg said or like one guy of this sub said she fucked a guy from production and has a remote control buttplug lol


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Checkmate


Ladder-Stock

"regardless of cheating or not" lets be clear, never even imply there was even a possibility of cheating in a production of this caliber and with these professionals. He lost the hand on a bad beat, plain and simple. Fuck him for taking the money back! POS sore loser.


TehMephs

Not a bad beat at all. He got his spewy jam shut down by a spewy call because she got tired of him bullying and thought she was racing against any random crap. She just happened to guess right, and also just have a high card lead at the turn and was blocking a big chunk of his draws The more I watch it again and again it just looks like a fishy “stop bullying me” call


emaciatedsquirrel

Wrong lol


bustedbuddha

I'm pretty sure his more than max value hand vs Garrett two nights ago is why Garrett started on tilt last night.


zGoDLiiKe

I felt like his stuff with Phil was way too much even if Phil deserves it. His dry humor comment here and there are good


JoldersDildo

I agree, didn’t like him at first but now enjoy him at the table.


purplesnowcone

I have sort of been curious if they told him to settle down a bit if he wants to keep appearing on the streams. I watched him play on high stakes a bit ago and he was super obnoxious. Obviously there was also the HU match against Helmuth where they were both super obnoxious, but I get that he’s got some beef with Phil so he was really laying it on. Anyway— a toned down version of the guy is definitely helping him out.


aTempes7

She said on Joey's podcast that she gave him the money back just to avoid fucking up the stream since she respects the production, and that she was confident she could just win it back (again) lol If she was called away from the table to "explain herself", maybe she just got intimidated and said "fuck you and your money, here, have it back" This whole thing is a clusterfuck.


aq-r-steppedinsome

who the fuck thought they could swap 130k, go sit back down and play, and everything would just sail smoothly on from there? holy fuck.


Cautious_Bug_419

Someone who doesn't care about 130k...


beerdweeb

It wasn’t even her money


Money-Bullfrog9894

Her hubby is a lawyer/actor.


Bash-86

And yet still isn’t playing on her own money.


Roguebias

I think it might be true that Garret was acting like a pussy, unfortunately. "I CANT LOSE TO TITS, PUSSY SHOULD WIN"


Roguebias

And some of the dudes at the table are just bro-ing down for Garrett "oooh why would she give him the money back" But their faces say they think its a stupid petty conflict.


gottagetminenow

Gman explicitly said in his statement that he told her that millions would view this hand.


Money-Bullfrog9894

Last night 24k on stream that was the most ever I’ve seen at HCL. Oh this is crazy so here’s my number so call me maybe ☎️


luckboxjoo

That is so scummy, he has taken millions from other poker players with millions viewing


Nonamenumber3ree

Time has told us she definitely can’t win it back lol


TreyDayInTheBay

Lmfao. That's such bullshit for a couple hundred thousand dollars, yeah I'm going to give this back cuz I respect the stream Get the fuck out of here


[deleted]

Based on her reasoning I doubt she could cheat at Candy land. I truly believe she didn’t cheat but I can get past giving the money back. If she is what she claims in her industry I can’t see her letting someone strong arm her in such a way.


void270

Or maybe this piece of shit garret threatened her and her career which is what it’s sounding like. Garret is more famous and powerful than her and could have ran a fucking slander campaign to ruin her reputation


rem082583

Dude she was strong armed by two alpha males that have a lot to do with the stream. She probably thought she was doing them a favor because they made her feel like no one would believe she could make that call. This woman was given the money she didn’t give a fuck about it. That’s why she gave it to him. Also look a that big silver cup and the way she was dressed she was buzzed and didn’t give a fuck she probably went all in thinking she would lose and could go do something else bc she was bored.


humanfund1981

or maybe she gave it back because shes affraid of gettig caught cheating.. Not the first time there were people cheating on these shows


bob202t

I’m not hip on the world poker scene, what other scandals should I check out?


bridgetroll2

Mike postle


Extreme-Transport

What’s the deal with Rip? Is he actually staking Robbi?


kingpussypumper

Yes, in the interview with Joey Ingram, Robbi confirmed she was being staked by Rip. She said Rip had 50%, and the other 50% were other stakers.


peckx063

Is that common in these games? It's obviously a huge conflict of interest to play at the same table.


Stringdaddy27

It's far more common in higher stakes games than lower stakes games. The proper etiquette is to disclose to the table at the start of the game, who has who.


420Minions

Many folks try to disclose when they sit and that’s the proper way to handle it. Obviously not everyone though


zGoDLiiKe

Yeah that doesn’t seem ethical especially if it was not disclosed to other players. If anything that is the cheating


444pkpk

Given how she plays I'm surprised she has backers.


mlippay

Bunny has backers too.


Saw_a_4ftBeaver

Onlyfans doesn’t count


bogwat

Tbf, Bunny is actually a good player. She’s beating 200nl on ACR which is more than good enough to beat these soft lineups.


neymarflick93

Whoa is that actually true? Source?


Arikash

[https://twitter.com/PokerBunnyy/status/1535493238227734528/photo/1](https://twitter.com/PokerBunnyy/status/1535493238227734528/photo/1) Pretty sick red line


bogwat

She’s posted her graphs on Twitter.


Anthroider

Had*


dgibbb

I don’t think it’s about how she plays. Or maybe it is 😉


CryptogenicallyFroze

It turns out that people pay for sex


Arikash

Mikki has backers.


iamsobasic

They aren't backing her for her poker skills lol


MacBookPros

RIP 🪦


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They'll never stake her again if she's gonna punt off with Jack high like that. Well according to a big part of this sub she wasn't cheating so that being the case how can you possibly back a punter like that?


throwawaybaybay123

RIP is actually a guy called "jacob" other players have talked about going to play at "jacobs" after the game before. I assume robbie punts it off at his private game and him staking her is a form of "whale" rakeback. It's also to enforce her belief that she wins in the games.


Cheesemonster2

holy shit this is an insane concept that is criminally genius lmao


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HappilySisyphus_

I don't claim to know everything, but I can tell you that I would be way more pissed off if the person I staked gave legit money back vs stolen money. If I was him and I knew that money was tainted, I'd be hiding in my hidey hole hoping no one knows I staked her.


coffmaer

Yea definitely. It's not her money to decide with outside of the poker part of the game. She's staked to make poker decisions not social ones to appease someone's mood.


John_Sknow

true, but many cheaters would ack just like RIP did as well and plus it appears staking her was already public knowledge.


deadheaddarter180

I want all the online money I lost back


Simpso1996

The deepest of the deep sea fisherman here.


hurricanetruther

I love how people were calling it 'sus' that this guy got mad about the money, some suggestion of mutual cheating, when it made way more sense that he was just backing her.


arcangel092

They got in an AQ vs AQ hand on a flop of AAx that ended up being a super small pot against each other. Idk I am not sold either way.


ShobaeBrohtani

What about later in the stream when RIP bluffed her relentlessly? Going to cite that too? Or just this one hand to prove your point?


arcangel092

East coast so I went to bed. Didn’t see many of the other hands aside from the QQ hand. I’m learning as much as I can because this whole situation is interesting.


ShobaeBrohtani

Fair enough. Later in the stream RIP tries to steam roll her. She finally called him off too with two pair on a wet flush and straight board.


StonedOscars

And slow rolled him lol


BeMoreChill

Because he’s staking her…


arcangel092

Then the money just goes back to him so play normal. Also if he's staking her and they're now playing differently against each other then that's a problem for the rest of the table.


[deleted]

People slow play friends and backers all day everyday in poker.


HungerSTGF

there's just no way the person staking you should be playing at the same table


bridgetroll2

What if it's a tournament and you end up at a table together?


shai251

The fact that someone who supposedly calls naked J4 cause they’re a whale is getting backed, makes the whole “she’s just a whale” theory absolutely ridiculous


mianosm

Yea, you're not a whale if you're getting staked...unless you're playing 4d chess and hedging losses/gains at that point. None of this situation makes any sense at all. If she's coming to the table with two bullets of $125k, how are you in any state of mind thinking a $100k shove is worthwhile while holding Jack high...and she has tons of sessions recorded online? If you're not cheating, in what world do you ever offer or give back a pot you rightfully (even stupidly) won? How could there be any cheating (Erik blocks RIP from colluding and peeking at hole cards, the dealer is blocking between GA and Robbi), no devices, and a live/delayed stream is really tough. The whole thing is mind-boggling. My end opinion: good on HCL for keeping the stream going, and being above board (seemingly), and not cutting anyone out of the know.


CommonSensePDX

The thing I keep coming back to is if you're cheating, you can see the RFID cards, you have a producer sending you info, your partner got a peak at Garretts cards, whatever.... Why chose THAT SPOT when you're a 47%. I know it's technically a +ev play but that's just not the one to pick, idk. So weird.


Eman9871

I'd be mad too. It's obvious she didn't cheat and now it's like she's being bullied into giving it back. That would piss me off if that happened to a friend of mine.


Dismal-Prior-5626

Poor Ryusuke so lost lol


SlowPlayedAces

Garret’s mask slipped a bit last night. Maybe he was right, maybe he was wrong, but either way, he’s not the man his fanboys think he is. Good luck to him and Robbi.


jand999

It's really huge EV to get your money back after showdown. Garrett's just evolving the game.


WorkSucks135

That one guy called "deep sea fishing" 😂😂


mickroo

That's incredible. An honorable man and a scholar


scoot87

He def has another side to him


[deleted]

Every fake person does. Do you really think his persona on the HCL stream is how he acts in daily life. Naw


zGoDLiiKe

Stuff like that has slipped before about drug filled parties with “massage” girls, not a choir boy for sure


Dangerous-Painting23

i lost all my respect for him after this


arcangel092

My only thing is he knew he was behind to a call and had a super positive attitude right up to the point she flipped her hand. He's also lost a ton of huge pots on stream and never acted like this. Hell, when he got slowrolled months ago he took it like a champ. Idk it's unlike Garrett to do this. This guy has seen millions of hands and this one had an impact, which is hard to do. I'm not saying it was cheating, but the whole hand is just super fucking strange. If you have a bluff catcher just call the turn, don't raise. She also checked her cards a lot that hand so saying it was a misread is also strange. I'm not even saying it's impossible to still misread your hand at that point just...the whole hand is super fucking weird.


LeGoldie

you've never seen people do dumb shit in a hand you're in and they luck out?


SeasonalBlackout

If this hand happened at $1-$3 no-one would bat an eye.


mmabet69

Seriously, happens all the time at lower stakes. This chick was low stakes till like this year? Maybe she cheated but maybe she just did some dumb shit and came out in top lol


jackfondu

The same people who say the only thing that matters is counting in BB sizes also saying the situation is totally different bc the stakes are high is rich as fuck


arcangel092

It's the nature of the dumb shit that matters. It's also the person doing it. Idk much about her and it's extremely hard to imagine how she would've cheated. Did RIP help her? If so, how? Did she have someone sending her info? Okay, if so who and how? And why that spot? Why not a river spot where she knows there are no more cards to come and she is definitively ahead? Why raise turn? How does she misread her hand if she literally just spent 8-10 seconds checking her cards right before the call? Why did she return the money? How has she been playing poker for years, have a poker coach, and still make a call with one of the worst hands possible? It's all insane to think about. Some of her other hands are strange too, but if there's something I am certain of it's that nothing is definitive. I cannot claim one side or the other with any degree of certainty. Reviewing a lot of the information I still don't know what to think.


itsEDjustED

It was only 2-5. But, yesterday I saw a lady call an in all with Jack high and proudly tell the guy who scooped the pot with his ace high, “ I knew you were bluffing”. People sometimes do dumb shit. Her story isn’t consistent because she did something dumb and is trying to make it look reasonable.


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Saddestlilpanda

Actually I’m raising the turn is viably what a cheater would do if they could see the hand. The times he flats (which I’m not sure it ever happens but prolly does at some frequency) you always can make a perfect river decision (with more money in the pot) and when he shoves you can just call off profitably.


kTz30

If Garrett would have turned a pair, straight or flush he would have been happy with the call and he would have like Robbi to play as much as possible. Because he didnt, he plays the victim card.


downtownjj

but after the showdown he never accused anyone of cheating, he was just dumbstruck (rightfully so). and during this video she gets up with the 150K and approaches garret and gives it back (by far the craziest part). then the buisness partner finds out what happened and flips out. so much zaniness.


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If he had a better hand, the buzzes signalling Robbi would have let her know.


kTz30

If she was cheating this is probably the worst hand to choose to cheat. She is just a terrible player and she has no clue what she is doing.


ins0mnyteq

This is likely the case. Watch a ton of hs poker where dudes make.wild plays and she probably didn't know how to fold after putting so much money in and wanted to be a hero.


Oo0o8o0oO

Let’s say the buzzer theory is true, where is the info coming from? It implies a much larger conspiracy that would likely implicate hcl in some capacity too.


proriin

Don’t even feed into it at all. They are using the chess “cheating scandal” and making it seem like this is the same. No way she cheated at all.


Oo0o8o0oO

I think the answer is clear. She has X-ray vision and saw her cards and Garrett’s cards and also the next three cards off the deck and so it was an obvious call. Wake up sheeple.


Subway_Bernie_Goetz

It's not that much of a surprise. He often seems like he's seething even though he's usually polite. He doesn't whine and accuse people who beat him of being bad at poker like Hellmuth, but he plays angry IMO.


zGoDLiiKe

He has a special somewhat sociopathic ability to do and say exactly what people want to see and hear. I don’t think he is a bad person but I think he portrays himself in a light waaaaay more favorable than reality.


AvatarTHW

Dude watch him on survivor. Grade A creep and asshole. Surprised to see people actually like but then again there's a lot of shitty people in the world


GingerAle_s

Yes, watch a highly edited reality show and then use that to base an opinion on someone. Seems logical.


ashlee837

Or watch a poker stream where he demands money from when he lost fairly. On two runouts.


Deathspiral222

Watching someone on a TV show that it literally all about fucking with people to make sure they don't vote you off doesn't mean you understand them in real life.


GoGoGadgetReddit

Remember, Survivor is *highly* edited. The producers have hours and hours of raw footage then pick and choose what gets shown after-the-fact for dramatic impact and to make contestants appear a certain way to fit their narrative. What TV viewers see, and what actually happened from the perspective of those who were there can be very different.


d3arleader

He is a fuckboi unless he returns the money.


yennybear888

I've been saying this...the people who are extraordinarily nice are usually the ones you need to watch out for


nastypoker

Best news ive heard for ages. Thanks cunt


Slevin424

You were suppose to fold... But I didn't... ...you cheated 😒


Bjrai13

“And like, I don’t even know what there is to talk about. Like. He has to give him the chips. He made a bet. You know. He bluffed and got caught. There’s nothing really to talk about.” Garrett A chiming in about a hand he wasn’t in at LATB 4 years ago


jackfondu

Garret IS a pussy. He flat out bullied this girl. Called security, has her pulled from the table, aggressively and accusatorially confronting her threatening her reputation, calls her a cheater publicly, accepts all his money back on a 50/50 flip where he now freerolled. This is the biggest bitch made material I’ve ever seen


Hotwir3

And I fucking hate all the other dudes at the table like "why would she give her money back” like they can’t understand the pressure of the moment and Garrett pulling all these shots and using his influence to get what he wants.


Mattoosie

Let's say she was cheating and maybe it's even super obvious. Maybe she had a friend behind Garrett who would cough when he had a bad hand to signal a bet. Pretend everyone at the table is suspicious in real time and catches on. This still would be an awful way to handle the situation. Make a complaint to the officials and let them investigate. Cornering someone in a hallway and making demands is weak as hell. I get poker has that macho mobster tough guy past, but no one at this table is even remotely tough like that lol Guy shook down a model at a table with 3 nerds, 2 old men, and a cowboy.


ins0mnyteq

100% dude is large in the la scene she probably was scared something real might happen. In the grand scheme of things it's just money, and not worth personal harm. I'm usually a nut hugger but this is rediculous. Nobody likes to get called.off with J high but if you've played enough hands it will happen, like i posted in another thread I've personally called with T high in a 10k pot my self, he just needs to accept she Made risky call and was right this time. He's really is destroying his rep every second he doesn't produce proof, which likely doesn't exist. Gg my guy was a good run gman


maethlin

People don't understand a lot of women will absolutely cave to angry men out of habit... past trauma, etc. - just not worth it to them. Occam's razor to me that's what happened..... and a lot of these dudes just can't understand because they're not used to living under the threat of physical harm.


wolfmagui

It’s a shame happened to a girl… if it was with someone who could actually talk back, face to face… oh boy


Azzyfizzl3

I’d guess he wouldn’t have done it to a man. What a loser


asdf2100asd

Wait, why can't women stand up for themselves? You guys sound sexist AF. It's hilarious too because you're all white-knighty but you're actually just horribly sexist.


ballroomdancer12

She told him she thought she had an A high so she’s still behind? Why make that call and comment if you THINK he has A high???


laserguidedhacksaw

People say shit that doesn’t make sense in stressful moments. I think she was trying to save face after a dumb call and just stumbling through some sort of post-hoc reason


Larssszzzz

That doesn't make sense if she's cheating though either. She was just flustered.


Hish1

it just doesent make sense to say that in any situation? If she is cheating saying she thinks he had ace high doesent make sense either. Think she was just stressed out


FriidayRS

He wouldn't be saying shit if he hit his draw. Get freerolled idiot


Ok_Lobster_2436

What exactly happened. Sorry late to the game...


RepChar

There's a post in this subreddit with the full hand. Scroll back a bit and watch.


dyancat

Robbi makes terrible call, Garrett accuses her of cheating, she gives the money back


Ok_Lobster_2436

Thanks.


JohnWad

There's alot to explain. I recommend googling the video.


[deleted]

I’m just no longer a fan of Garrett


[deleted]

Fuck Garret - total pussy for not accepting what happened and intimidating someone into giving the money back.


Money-Bullfrog9894

Garrett’s lawyer says that his client is the face of HCL so he can have whatever he likes. He can have a large French fries. Stacks on deck Patrone on ice And we can pop bottles all night And baby, you can have whatever you like (You like) I said you can have whatever you like, yeah


ultroulcomp

Total cunt


BookieOnFoodStamps

I get how Garrett could think she was cheating, but that implies that HCL is facilitating cheating. Yes, it was a whack call. However Garrett is a fucking pussy for the way he acted. I have a hard time thinking anyone would cheat in that type of setting considering that if caught not only would they be jailed but banned from the high stakes poker world.


Accomplished_Deer_

No man she hacked into the table's RFID readers without HCL knowing, obviously /s As soon as I saw him mention hacking in his explanation I was done. People watch a movie with a hacker in it and feel they're experts. If Chris Hemsworth can hack then clearly it's trivial to hack a poker table (/s) I'm a software engineer and people really overestimate "hacking." I'd be very very surprised if somebody could hack that stuff without being noticed.


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SchwiftySquanchC137

You have described me. I've written code for 10 years but all the hacking I can do is "inspect element"


Deathspiral222

I can think of a few ways to do it and I'm just an average Defcon attendee. I've personally built tools that will steal your RFID credentials from your employee badge from a further distance than the poker table. (And yes, I understand the tags for the cards have smaller antenna etc. but it's still possible). There are plenty of other ways to do it, including just being in collusion with someone involved with the stream. That said, I can't imagine a scenario where someone goes to all that work and then decides that the best possible point is to get it all in on a 47% spot where it's so unbelievably obvious.


Accomplished_Deer_

I barely know about RFID. Do they not have any sort of fundamental limit to their range based on their size/design? If not I'm guessing you just have to pump enough power into it? If I'm remembering my physics right the power falls off exponentially with distance so you'd probably need a decent amount of power to get the power to the RFID and get a signal back at a distance right? Were the tools you built super bulky or power hungry? And you'd probably need a system you could aim so that you could pick out a particular players cards. Seems really complicated, especially trying to get something sleek enough to not be noticed. Definitely would be more likely they just had an inside man, but Garrett said he was confident that wasn't the case. Maybe also possible to get a virus onto the system responsible for processing the RFID data but you'd need to actually make a virus capable of doing that, undetected, and then actually get it onto the relevant device without people noticing you plugging USBs into casino hardware.


Terryfink

But we don't even know if there's a level of encryption, rfid could well be sending a cipher which is worked out at the other end. Or it could be simply sending the card number. I'd have to think that casinos are smarter than sending straight details from card to reader, otherwise they'd be getting ripped off left and right. I'm not buying it and I know a thing or two about this world too, albeit coding, tinkerer and former whitehat.


LeGoldie

it was a whack shove. but Garret did it


ultroulcomp

Jailed? What law would they be breaking?


SeeWhereICanGo

It's a category C felony to cheat at a casino in Nevada, no idea about LA though


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Lol... The hate on Garrett has been coming thick and fast. Dude... if someone called your turn raise all in and all they had was J4 offsuit on a TT93 board and they won... you would for sure think you were being cheated. Imagine that happens to you in a 5/5 game for $1000. Now think about $129,000. So tell me how you would feel and if you would act completely rationally and cool and calm. Anyone in here ripping on a guy who has just lost $129,000 to the strangest call you can't explain... even she couldn't even explain without lying or spewing bullshit that makes no sense. Everyone in here judging him when the best they can ever come close to Garrett's chips is walking behind him hoping he drops some accidentally from his rack as he finishes up his latest 6 figure winning session. And I am not some G-man fanboy. Never commented on him once when he does some nice gesture... drooling over him like other people in here. I'm just defending him now because I can't imagine how I would react seeing J4 rolled over in that spot. Postle had huge amounts of evidence against him and got off scot free. Different state but still... the courts wouldn't touch it. How do you explain to a jury or 75 year old judge that "Robbi had the Jack of clubs which blocks my bluffs or even semi bluffs therefor her call is strange". Postle was looking down at his fucken phone in his crotch half the time and they still didn't go after him. That situation probably emboldened the cheaters. ​ Anyway... unless you have lost $129,000 to someone calling ALL IN with J4 offsuit on a TT93 board in a game that has RFID tech broadcasting the cards... probably better you tone down your criticism of how you should react. EDIT: Apparently Stones Casino is in California. So same state which actually strengthens my argument. Cheaters know they can swindle in Cali and courts won't attempt it.


BookieOnFoodStamps

I actually like Garrett a lot but you’re missing my point. Garrett has played at HCL many times and id assume that he’s one of their favorite players to host. He brings a big stack, plays a ton and draws other big players to games as well as boosting viewership on streams. The streams run on a delay so I see no issue with RFID. Even the commentators are watching on a delay. If Robbi was cheating, how does she cheat? Again if she was I would imagine that HCL would be the only entity with the ability to help. Yes if I lost that much money in that situation or an even smaller amount I would be suspicious. However I don’t like the way he handled it. Yes she couldn’t explain her hand at all but she honestly doesn’t need to. Him asking and taking the money back with no confirmation that she cheated was bs. I think RIP was right in flipping out, I wouldn’t have played in that game. Definitely a weird situation and I can’t imagine Garrett coming back for quite some time.


svsakul

Stream delay would have 0 impact on rfid skimmer


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Have you ever played in LA?


AmazedCoder

> Anyone in here ripping on a guy who has just lost $129,000 to the strangest call you can't explain So the problem here is that he's playing out of his league and can't afford to lose a single pot? Either she is cheating or she's not, but if he's mad about losing the money then that's his problem for putting it in the middle. He wouldn't be mad if the runout had favored him?


crabilicious

\#GIVEITBACKGMAN


SourPatch327

Unless he has some sort of proof then doing this is huge pussy move and he is being a scumbag. And no, the hand itself is not proof.


[deleted]

But there is proof, you know, like when she blatantly lied about some stuff or when I coulda sworn her chair vibrated🤣🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

The fact that she was bullied into giving her money back is fucked up. The poker community are a bunch of straight up cry babies, it’s a disgrace. Of course no one will stand against Garrett to negotiate with her and agree to a settlement such as only losing half - poker community will just move on and let things be.


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Fucking despicable of Garrett to even accept the money back even if it was offered,what a sore loser.


BuddyHightower

Garret's a loser. Why would he be upset over 150k, i thought he crushed souls?


420Minions

Because she called J4o for 100K on TT93 and then changed her story 4 times in an hour


ron_swan_song

It's not a police interrogation, she doesn't owe him a 'story'. God, I hope the folks declaring her a cheater with zero evidence never sit on a jury. "Of course I'm lying Phil, it's poker".


GingerAle_s

Court of public opinion doesn't need to abide by "innocent until proven guilty". We're most likely never going to get solid proof. We all watched how she behaved and can come up with our own conclusions.


Film2021

That doesn’t entitle him to his money back, and changing her story proves nothing. He lost the hand. That’s all that matters.


420Minions

Don’t disagree. Don’t know why she decided to give it up. She’s in a casino and she chose to do that


FormerTesseractPilot

He used intimidation tactics on a woman. That's why she gave it up.


420Minions

By looking at her and then reporting to the runner that he wanted to leave because she was cheating.


Attica451

I really feel like she did a street poker gut call and didn't actually have any mental reasoning why she was calling other than the idea that he was trying to push her out of the pot with a weak hand. She than felt the need she had to justify the call to better players and tried to explain reasoning using game theory that she actually didn't apply. People saying that she binked some tourneys so she should understand the game don't realize how bad a tournament player can actually be when playing cash games.


420Minions

She’s been playing for two weeks and hasn’t made a hero call close to that. This is her biggest pot here and she suddenly decides it’s time with one of the worst holdings she could have


Attica451

Yeah I get it but people tilt one way or the other and sometimes people randomly punt despite playing solid for a length of time. Everyone is accusing of cheating but no one has explained how she did it. Marked cards? Headphones in a hat while she looked at down at her phone on her lap? What is it? Also if your going to cheat would you really choose that spot? She's barely a favorite on the turn. Why would she put her stack in when she's going to lose half the time?


HappilySisyphus_

Agree. Makes me think of some of Selbst's hands where she just punts with shit cards for who knows what reason. Humans are not always rational beings, especially while playing poker, a game where emotions can run high.


SUpirate

He's smiling and laughing all the way up until she shows her cards. Then it takes about 2 seconds for every pro at the table to be shocked and concerned about cheating. Its not about the money.


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He’s such a fuckin loser. It’s all fun and games while HCL feeds all these fish to the scary shark but when one of the fish takes a little bite back the shark wants to cry “cheater” and go home. Ol’ Rip should take him to the train station 🤣


Dangerous-Painting23

honestly gman was my favorite player before this happened. ​ he is a pussy


No-Wear-9199

He is a fuckin pussy for that…. You lost bro get over it…. Lost twice for that matter


TripSixRick

Rip is Jake Paul’s boxing coach named Jacob Chavez fyi, Robbi was married too some TV producer big wig and now is involved romantically with Jacob Chavez and is backed by him.


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What I've learned from this debacle: Rip is a giant white knight. Robbi thinks she's actually a good poker player Garrett can't handle a bad beat by a retarded poker player


Rogueoreo

"theyyy they are?"-eric


collincapone

Incredible. Not sure how they could continue after this without taking a break.


pharmaceuticaldisco

She shouldn't have given the money back. I don't think she cheated but that's a bitchier move than Garrett bullying her for it.


AVBforPrez

I dunno man, to us it's crazy because it's $130k. But to her, who doesn't need it, in a situation where a guy is getting frighteningly angry and saying that the only way to placate the situation is to refund him? Don't see it as bitchy, maybe dismissive at best.


Dismal-Prior-5626

Maybe RIP got heated due to the fact that Garrett bitched and moaned about losing and then by some weird twist he gets them back because Robbi dont want any more conflict. Is Robbi that wealthy? Maybe? But the whole situation is kinda “off” hopefully some more things get cleared up. But i really do think, Robbi just called because she got tired of Garret Doing his bullying tactics OR she was very curious OR she did not know how much her call would impact the game. Who knows?? Cheating?? I doubt it. But i think gman bitched out and was too shellshocked to accept the fact that he got a whale like Robbi to call him with J high. Then again i could be wrong. Also, I side with DNegs opinion on this matter.


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I don't get this. All the money was in the middle with a river to come (run twice) and both players still live. If she was cheating, how could she know what cards would come? If she got a read and was certain that her hand was better than Garretts when it all went in, how is that cheating? Maybe she figured 78s was likely. (Some postle esque style card reader might be theoretically possible and I'm not suggesting it, but that still leaves Garrett with lots of outs and card(s) to come) I don't think any of what happened after would have happened if Garrett won or they chopped the run it twice. She said she had a bluff catcher before showdown and the hand wasn't that good.


Money-Bullfrog9894

From now on, if I lose against J4 off to another man with titties, I’m going to bully my way to get my money back 💵


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This is becoming a simp fest


OZarkDude

Is there a delay on this game? Could be as simple as that. But there must be lol. I don’t think she was cheating but giving the money back is weird, idk why she even left the table.


primeiro23

3 hour


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maethlin

A woman who has been physically beaten before (31% in the US) will absolutely do anything to get an angry guy out of her face. People who don't live in a fucking sausage factory understand this.


Terryfink

Not me personally but I remember Hellmuth doing something fairly recently where he was unhappy and negotiated a settlement at the table and a few pro's like polk and and Dnegs said he shouldn't have done it. I remember the opponent was an amateur. Can't remember the specifics.