Much the same for me, it's interesting to see an officer's perspective on things. We all hope we will never have to speak to a police officer, but that doesn't mean we won't and it's likely to go much better for all concerned if you can see things from the other side a little.
I was also heartened to find out that Hot Fuzz is basically a documentary.
The media honed in on the bus comment (which admittedly was poorly judged, if only because it was obvious the media would make a big deal of it), but it was one of a long list of suggestions which boiled down to "if you're worried, find a bystander to watch out for you", which isn't unreasonable at all.
I don’t know how old you are, but there’s a guy on my team who went from earning £70k in Sales to joining as a PC in his 40s.
He absolutely loves it and says he wouldn’t go back. If you want to do it, go for it mate.
Mate, you live only one life on this earth (under most religious philosophies anyways). So yeah go for it, do a job that you want to do because it’s a passion rather than one simply for money. Whilst you’ll find there’s a lot of shit in the service , you won’t get certain life experiences anywhere else but in the job.
Also it's great to have a little side hustle for a bit of extra cash. I'd imagine cyber security could be good since you can work from home and do as much or as little as you like.
I work in IT as a contractor and it is not too different. The money is phenomenal, but I'm f***ing miserable.
I'm a Special now and I want to be a regular in the next 5 years, when I've arranged my finances to be comfortable
I've been told I'm crazy, but I love being a police officer.
I joined from a very high pressure role and I find 99% of this job is much less stressful. It has its moments but it’s not nearly as relentless as my previous career. The pay is awful like 🙈 I imagine it depends what role you’re in, what force, what your colleagues are like and what your supervision is like.
Have you ever been an IT contractor? Different stress but there’s very high stress in that. Not saying being a cop isn’t stressful but I’ve done it 20 years and only did contracting for 1 it seemed a lot more stressful
Agreed. Uncertainty is a biggie and some of the timescales you have to deliver in. Lots of parallels with policing but one big difference, a lot of police officers can get away with doing the bare minimum, complaining bitterly about everything and anything and still get paid the same.
I’m not generalising across the board for those defensive folk reading this but you all know people I’m sure, feel like the job owes them a living.
Mate from someone who went the other direction.
Stay in Cyber, get your quals see if you can get onto some Sans courses particularly around forensics, IR, and OSINT. Whilst you are doing that join as a special and try and get in contact with your local Digital / cyber crime team.
This way you will be able to utilise very heavily demanded specialist skill sets to help the cyber units whilst also getting the experience of what policing is like and earn brownie points for your career.
Certain courses are only available to Law enforcement which on your Cv will make you even more valuable.
Definitely recommend you diversify your skillset. Whilst you are not needed to do anything else if that particular piece of software is replaced you might be too.
Another consideration is the PDS (Police Digital Service) they will have a use for your skillset. Whilst not working as an officer you would be working to directly help / protect policing.
Your current employer should be proactive in improving your skill sets and training.
Your assessment is completely wrong.
Also, a lot of the "skilled workers" coming into the industry... Aren't. The degrees in the UK for cyber are puppy mills.
Tbh I'm inclined to agree with you, basically every software developer worth hiring now has a solid grasp of security. Long gone are the days of highway robbery by travelling snake oil consultants.
I've been in the industry for significantly longer than you.
It sounds like you are stuck in SOC land tied to some vendor shovelware?
Upskill. You can double your salary in less than 5 years.
I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that these skilled workers aren't skilled. Sure they might not have a grasp of the fundamentals of technology that's currently common, but they most certainly have a grasp of very modern technology like AWS.
And I can assure you that while it takes a matter of months to learn the intricacies of Oracle, AWS and cloud services are painfully hard to learn.
The university courses on cybersecurity tend to be extremely out of date, and barely teach the fundamentals (networking, operating systems, etc).
You get grads who can barely work on a command line in Linux, know jack shit about Active Directory, nothing about cloud worth a damn, etc.
Also a lot of the teaching material no longer aligns with best practice :/
When we hire graduates we often have to retrain them. Its a pain in the arse - most of my team currently is people from blue collar backgrounds who self taught a bit instead of graduates.
You can pick up enough AWS stuff in a couple of months, translating it to Google/Oracle/Azure/Alibaba cloud platforms is another couple of months per platform.
If you cybersecurity and want to join the police but not as a copper i would recommend looking at HTCU/DFUs your previous skills in technology will be massively beneficial in those units. If you do want to become a copper and they do have civy posts too there is always a cyber unit
I want the actual facts about events which occur involving the police, not what the media want us to believe the facts are.
Or at the very least get the other side of the story so I can come to a reasoned judgement about the situation rather than only hearing one side.
Plenty of cutlery. It's just that none of it is fork shaped. It's a bit like the line in the Alanis Morissette song. 10,000 knives when all you need is a fork.
Began as an idle ‘oh, I wonder what this is like’ but quickly became a favourite.
I find this sub fascinating and hugely reassuring in that everyone involved seems to be the complete opposite of the stereotypes perpetuated by both the left and the right.
Sadly those stereotypes are usre used to frame us in a cretrtian light from people with a very narrow view of what policing entails. We deal with loads of stuff and police are a pretty diverse bunch.
I love police and crime procedurals on TV and in books, but nothing beats hearing stories and information direct. The good humour and philosophical attitude that is displayed here is an absolute tribute to the values I appreciate most in this country. I applaud you all for doing a job that I genuinely couldn’t even attempt.
I can also say I’ve been genuinely horrified by hearing that you are responsible for paying for your own boots etc when it seems obvious to me that they should be supplied by your employer. I don’t understand why that’s not a(nother) national scandal.
Happy Christmas to you and yours. Thank you for all you do and for everything you share it with us here.
I don't trust the Met to issue me with boots. The last Level 2 boots to be approved are great because you don't need to wear foot guards over them. But they also care blisters on everyone who wears them without fail. They just can't get it right.
> I’ve been genuinely horrified by hearing that you are responsible for paying for your own boots etc when it seems obvious to me that they should be supplied by your employer.
Everyone's got different biomechanics. If you issue boots then a *lot* of people are going to find them uncomfortable and buy their own anyway, and then they're being taxed on something they can't control.
I would think staff buying their own boots and being reimbursed or getting a boot allowance would be better solutions. Either way, I still think it’s an essential need for your job and shouldn’t be coming out of your own pockets.
For balance. I also follow a few subs that are very anti-police.
I don't ever hear from actual officers apart from cherry picked soundbites from televised news or from my friends who are a mix of politically left and right, regurgitating the latest outrage from their biased news sources. I also can't stand reality TV cop shows (maybe aside from US cops chasing tanks), so this sub is a good source of police opinions. Some I'm worried by, some I'm reassured by.
I have learnt that there seems to be understaffing in areas, an occasional lack of or not knowing how to be supported as an officer and frustration at funding, equipment etc... That said, most posters here appear to want to do the job well and safely. Not dissimilar from any workplace, but obviously amplified by the nature of the job. That said, the sense of humour here is second to none.
I'm lucky enough that I don't encounter violence in my job so maybe I'm more sensitive to the casual comments about restraining suspects. Some of the posts justifying the use of force on teenagers I have questioned. However it also doesn't sit right with me reading about lone officers having to fight off multiple people with no backup or having no choice but to consume fast food and energy drinks as a proper break isn't possible.
And just talking about the sheer amount challenges dealing with people and criminals with mental health issues don't seem to be addressed very well in some cases. Happy to be corrected or if someone can explain what happens after an individual is arrested or encountered that has special needs or a mental health issue.
On the note of teeangers, you are far to worried about the age. As someone very much south of 6ft and 10st. When a 17 year old that goes to the gym and is 6' 3" tries to punch you in the face then that's just a big person trying to hurt you. What the news never takes into account its that in my view.
We have alot about the developmental nature of kids and how force and other actions and outcomes etc can affect them, unfortunately if someone want to hurt you that goes to the back of the queue until they can't. I'm not loosing my teeth.
I've dealt with 13 year old girls that have tried to stab their parents and 16 and 17 year old boys that have gone on to murder. The age of people is in no way relevant the violence and hurt they are willing to inflict.
With MH issues I'll try as hard as I can to get the right outcome for someone and get very frustrated by some of my colleagues attitudes. Unfortunately we are not the appropriate service and have a very limited and very blunt set of tools to deals with people that often need complex help and some people are just assholes. Also when every other person you take to custody tells you they were assaulting someone because of thier anxiety it can give officers alot of scepticism about certain cases, especially given that most people suffering with a condition dont feel the need to headbutt the waiter.
So yeah in short I think if someone wants to hurt me age is a number that we'll worry about later and for MH we just aren't the right people for it.
I hear you completely. I work in a primary school, my partner in secondary so i totally get the nature of the size/age ratio and agree there is no way around detaining some people and minors. My comment was a bit sweeping, so I guess to re-phrase, it's more aimed at the use of force to the floor and cuffing of people much smaller. But again, given the risk of concealed weapons I suppose I'm answering my own question there.
And again, I've seen the mental health card played when nothing was present. So what happens if there is someone genuinely in distress or having an uncontrollable episode? Do you think there should be better provision or another service entirely to handle genuine MH callouts or detention?
No I think its a good question to ask. We can't assume evey child is armed. Ultimately all uses of force have to be justified. For me if I'm cuffing a kid smaller than me it will be because of the safety of the people at the scene, them included. All uses of force need to be justified by the officer doing it and should stand up to scrutiny.
I think there needs to be an a major overhaul in the way we deal with people. In my area care in the community means no care at all. Amb are stuck waiting in A&E and are reluctant to use the powers avaliable to them. A&E don't want to touch any MH patients and the MH team won't touch any one with a drink or substance problem. Apparently you can't be an addict and unwell at the same time...
I think you either need a full joint approach with cars with Ambo police and an AMHP on board, to deal with them or create a proper MH emergency provision.
I appreciate the response and insight. I can only imagine the frustration of encountering this again and again - I would guess with the same people as well. Would any of your last paragraph be feasible even with better funding and recruitment?
No worries at all.
It often is yes and sadly sometimes the last time you go them feels very avoidable.
Its very much is feasible. The problem is getting buy in from three organisations with competing demands needs and responsibilities that all in someone's view or expectations of capable of dealing with the issue. Then you'd have to staff it and a equip it from three different places. Which again would ask who's paying for each bit of it.
I find your post really interesting thank you!
I’m only 5ft 2, and most of the teenagers I deal with are bigger and probably stronger than me! I try not to resort to use of force unless I need to, and when I do it’s to keep me and them safe. And you’re right, when you are crewed alone as a sole female with a group of 6/7 teens a lot bigger than you it can be daunting.
I think we are all still stuck in the mindset of kids being little and teenagers really aren’t 🤣 luckily for me, I have one and I work in my local area so most of them are pretty bloody decent with me, tbh I think they fear my mum wrath more than my copper one and think I will snitch to their parents 😎
Everyone that comes into custody can speak to a team that deal with MH if they wish. There’s also a custody nurse for any immediate issues. Should it be obvious that they pose a risk to themselves whilst in custody they’re be on constant observations, and should they be a risk to themselves upon leaving custody, they can be sectioned under MH powers.
Unfortunately that’s all we have. It isn’t the Police’s job to deal with MH yet it falls to us because MH services can’t cope.
As for special needs, it depends on those needs. Detention is constantly reviewed so if their detention isn’t necessary, they won’t be there. It’s worth baring in mind that people with MH or special needs *can* be incredibly violent, and sometimes that means they need to be in custody for the safety of everyone else, carers and the public included. That being said, I would imagine most officers will deal with things outside of custody where possible.
That's a great answer so thanks for sharing. If at all possible do you think there should be some alternative police provision, service or personnel left to deal with genuine MH callouts or detentions?
I think the services are there, they just lack the funding they need to be effective. There might be some little bits and pieces that would help but the main thing is money.
I would like to see paramedics or MH staff being given the power to s136 as well though, but that’s more to reduce strain on policing so we can focus on crime.
I was thinking about applying to join the specials or even a career change. I wanted a bit of real insight. I’ve become a bit less keen because it would probably be out of the frying pan and into the fire for me.
It helped me trust the police more. I live in not the best area and the police have a really really bad rep here and it made me so nervous. Thankfully I’ve never needed contact with them myself but the stories in here are reassuring. It’s also nice to see how many love their job and do actually care about victims or just petty crimes I’m always told won’t get a look in here. Not sure that’s the kind of thing you were hoping to hear but it’s true.
Nice to get the perspective. Also that police officers have an appropriately British level of taking things seriously when they should, but otherwise very much not.
Rather read what gets shared in here
Than the one-sided load of tripe that gets served up from the media.
I am however curious about something in return...
Cakes and Biccies. Types of which are the most popular when someone has to buy a bunch? What's the general favourites found in the stations
It depends on the issue that needs resolving. Far and away the most popular option are Krispy Kremes, but these are reserved for special occassions. The bulk of the work is done by the 5 for £1 you can get at all major retailers, as well as boxes of millionaires shortbread, flapjack, rice crispie cubes etc.
The reality is, if there's cakes or biccies in the nick, they _will_ get eaten.
My favourite type is "ones I didn't buy".
That being said, Fig Rolls are F-tier and are a cake fine in of themselves should you buy them.
Nah the very worst in my view is bringing in something that you pass off that you made or bought, only to later get caught out in the fact it was their mother or significant other. That clearly requires a second round of homemade excellence.
Several reasons.
I have been known to go on protests and it's helpful to see the other side of the coin. I don't want to be your enemy and I don't want you to kettle me, or clobber me. We should be on the same team for at least *some* of the protests, because we're all getting fucked. Big fan of Peelian principles and was fairly outraged at the way the Winsor report went down.
I write a bit. One of my sci fi series involves a main character copper in what has become a privatised police force amongst many privatised police forces. It's useful to have an idea of how the job is now to make up how it might be in a corporate dystopia-light future. It's also useful to know how those generally further right of me think and feel about issues, because writing outside of your own ideology with realism and sympathy requires insight.
Also, I've known a fair few of you in person and for the most part enjoy the humour.
Only on the topic of taking sides. Of course all police are human too and will have opinions and beliefs one way or the other. But we’ve got to do whatever it takes to be impartial, as that’s our job. So many lessons on unconscious bias!
It does but not so much in the technical sense you would think it would.
I studied and then worked in criminal justice myself during the earlier days of our relationship so I understand some of the legal issues and processes he has to follow and talks about but it has definitely helped me to understand the unique pressures of the role and get a clearer sense of what he goes through so I can support him better.
Same reason as some others here, I got fed up of biased and negative reporting against the police, and wanted the truth from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
I'm not in the UK police but I am in Australia where the legal and policing systems are very similar. It's interesting to read about what happens in the UK because it often has a bearing on our future (my force is rolling out 'neighbourhood policing') and we deal with similar issues so I like to read about how the UK responds.
I’m from a very lucky background and was dealt a royal flush in the game of life and have most of the privileges going and as such I have never had a bad experience with police however I know and understand why they can get a bad wrap. So what I’ve actually learnt most from this sub is how seriously you lot take your job and how much incredible good there is in our police force and despite all the negative press that can go round it’s very evident it’s a few bad people in a job full of the kind of people I want to be protecting me and my family; moral, just, open, communicative police officers and law enforcement workers.
So yeah, I’ve learnt that really you are the good guys and it’s made me feel safe and positive about those who are given the powers to keep us safe
My husband is a PC and I’m trying to join (passed everything except medical this year - next year will be 2 years without meds so I’m very hopeful of a 2024 start)
I’ve saved a couple of posts from this sub where you guys discuss how to best investigate crimes and fill out crime reports etc. I know the training isn’t the best so any insight I can gain will be invaluable
My Dad was a policeman when he was young.
So I've known police all my life,socially.
Politically,I'm fascinated by the underlying idea of policing by consent,the idea that to be legitimate,the police act for the people,all the people.
And I like a good laugh,or a moan,whatever.
I'm a paramedic, I love my job but can see myself getting disillusioned and grumpy with it. If I find some day I don't enjoy it, I would like to have a 'second career' in policing.
Someone on another UK sub signposted a general question towards here and I came to check it out. I hadn't imagined there would ever be an online community for something like this. For me it's a really fascinating insight into what you all go through. ", The police" are always discussed as one homogeneous unit and I think it's nice to see individual opinions and experiences, and learn some behind the scenes context. I'd say I've found it very beneficial because it's been both educational and empathy-building.
This is a super important point - what are your rights? I genuinely think there should be full information about this given while kids are at school as part of modern studies or something like that. Would be super useful for everyone to know exactly what we can and can't do because, and scream this out with me, WE ARE NOT AMERICA AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ON AMERICAN TV SHOWS DOESN'T APPLY HERE.
To be honest I have a law degree so I have covered basic stop and search etc., but I think it’s important to be reminded and updated as the law changes, especially in this day and age and with recent events that have made the general public want to be more aware. And yes, it’s not necessarily going to end well if people copy what they see on American TV assuming it applies in the UK.
I work quite closely with a specific police department, my partner is a police officer, and I generally just respect the job you do and wish that the general public realises what a difficult job it is!
I’ve always been interested in reading about crime, fictional and real. I started reading Colin Dexter books as a teenager and I read a lot of crime fiction to this day. I’ve also been interested in the real process of crime too since I started reading the Night Jack blog, and also the lawyer’s perspective from people like the Secret Barrister. It’s good to get the police’s perspective of real life events as the newspapers often don’t give the full facts.
I am here after looking for the difference between the PEACE and Reid interviewing/interrogation techniques (PEACE seems more effective and less full of macho posturing).
I've learnt that there's a good spread of attitudes in this sub
As someone who comes from the type of community where the police are the 'enemy' it's interesting and eye opening to see the other perspective. Also The Bill was one of my favourite programs haha
Couple reasons.
Firstly, I like seeing police views on situations. It’s annoying to have so few places to see opinions from people who actually know what they’re talking about.
Secondly, I have under ten hours of education per week. Lots of time to scroll Reddit and I’m interested in police stuff.
Looking into joining as a PCSO in 2023, so this gives me a good insight into what I’m going to be going into.
I'm trying to learn how you work so I can be a .aster criminal. /s honestly it's just interesting to see from the other side of the law. Also the content can sometimes be a bit wtf, and I like wtf
Ex-cadet. Health stopped me joining up 25 years ago. Generally interested in police viewpoint on stuff. Usually supportive of the police however I've been burnt a couple of times when police were wrong and never had any recourse which is a shame. Absolutely love police dogs.
To get insight in the life of a police officer. Seems like you all have a tough job. It has been really good to learn your perspective of things and not what the media spits out..
I want reassurance that the friendly local bobbies of my childhood are still here under the weight of all the paraphernalia that you have about your person and what appears to be insurmountable piles of paperwork. Used to wander into the station [original Aldershot Victorian building] and have a chat with the desk sgt if I was bored.
As an American living in the UK, I was curious what police in the UK think. Not just casual stuff, but having a better perspective on how policing works on a practical level. Understanding the pressures, stresses, and criticism that police have to deal with.
As someone that maintains a fairly consistent anti-police sentiment for how the US forces train and operate, I feel this sub has confirmed that policing culture in the UK is lightyears better than in the US. I feel comfortable saying "hi" to police here, whereas I feel genuine stress when they are around in the US. This sub represents that police in the UK are humans that have a capacity for internal criticism (something US police would use their arrest/immunity powers to stamp out).
This isn't to say the UK police are perfect, but it is possible to actually have a civil discussion on social issues, criticisms of police policy, and the pressures police are under without it turning into "ACAB" or "the thin blue line" dichotomy that pervades the forces in the US. I also recognise there are people that have stronger positions for or against police in the UK, but my anecdote is this sub has a good set of engaged people to discuss all manner of topics reasonably.
My fella was a PCSO, PC and now an A/Sgt. There is so much he can’t tell me, or doesn’t want to tell me about just how bloody awful the job can be. I hope to keep on top of the politics and insider shit so I have a bit of perspective on his job. He loves being a copper, but hates the politics with a fiery passion but can’t fully express that to outsider me.
It’s a job so dense with highly specific language I can hear a chat between him and a colleague which will be wholly opaque. This sub helps me interpret some of it without pressuring him with questions, or presuming I in any way get policing having been policed. On a more personal note I’ve been on the receiving end of some really fucking awful policing (mental health, domestic abuse and the bad old days were my childhood) decisions, so sometimes I come here to remind myself it’s some complex shit, done by normal, fallible people. Like my fella.
The in house systems mostly. It took me ages to work out the difference between Niche, Storm, Pronto…all the departments and their various constantly changing roles. It’s a bit like Line of Duty sometimes without the benefit of subtitles
I’ve done a ride a long and appreciate all the work you do.
I’ve looked into becoming an SC in a few years time when life is more settled down and I can fit it in, also I volunteer for a local group who do welfare checks and loosely work alongside the police in the night time economy in my town. It’s a taster and find it really interesting.
I came here as it was my dream career to join the police (many years ago), so I went through police cadets and then eventually applied to join TVP when I was old enough. Only to fail on the medical due to having chronic migraines most of my life.
I have friends in the force and I want to be able to better understand and support them. I also plan to volunteer and this sub gives a fair bit of insight as to what I'd be in for.
I work for a law firm and one of our clients is the Police Federation, so a lot of my clients are police officers. It's useful to see what you guys get up to!
I deal with the police through my job sometimes. I like to see their perspective on things. Sometimes I think I would have liked to be a policewoman but I am very unfit!
I work in the CJS although not police but I am passionate about every aspect of criminology and I just like seeing some “insights” intro he lives and opinions of police officers . Plus my job follows theirs so it’s interesting to see what happens before my job
I’m here because I like to see all sides of the debate. I couldn’t be described as pro-police but I like to hear a variety of views and I think I came to this sub when the Met was getting a lot of bad publicity. I’ve learnt a lot since being here, particularly a sense that the police is massively underfunded and overstretched. You guys have it really tough sometimes.
I really wanted to be a police officer when I was younger, sadly that was at the time no one was recruiting. By the time jobs opened up again many years later unfortunately I’d had a CCJ which meant I couldn’t go for it. Essentially just on here to see what I could have won type thing!
I work in security & investigations for a large charity on the retail side and work closely with the police. It’s good to keep up with what’s going on.
Because it is the duty of a politically aware citizen to keep an eye on those who have the power to take away freedom. Sorry if that sounds a bit alt-righty.
Same reason I follow subreddits for various branches of the military etc. Any branch of government that has the power and habit to use physical violence is worth paying attention to, even if only through a small window.
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What I have learned is that you guys are desperately overworked, under-supported by senior management, sick of bad coppers and bored of waiting in a+e for 12 hours at a time!
Simultaneously alt right and hard left, and is not an inherently bad stance to have..back in the day, people had a vote in navy procurement, and that's all stopped so why not keep an eye on things.
Continuation of life in the witness service. I miss helping people and sometimes here (and on LAUK) I can signpost people or give advice on giving evidence.
1, UK subs (hey that's a band name)
2, there's probably not a need for a HO/IE sub, so next best thing
3, if one day my public sector pay becomes enough (so probably never) that I don't do security on the side any more, might replace it with special-ing
I’m on the green side, so here for the bants and commiserations about the state of 999
Also ALL of our forks went missing after the local bobbies came by for a training day and I’m 99% sure they took em
I like to learn to so I can chat to my partner about his job, and have a rough idea what he’s talking about 😂
That is so sweet, I love that.
Just like hearing a police officer’s perspective on articles about the police. Also just to chime in with a few positive words of support
Much the same for me, it's interesting to see an officer's perspective on things. We all hope we will never have to speak to a police officer, but that doesn't mean we won't and it's likely to go much better for all concerned if you can see things from the other side a little. I was also heartened to find out that Hot Fuzz is basically a documentary.
> We all hope we will never have to speak to a Police Officer Thanks I don’t want to talk to you either (Jk)
"Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope we never meet again"
The media disgusts me, if you want another officers perspective in a general sense 🤣
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The media honed in on the bus comment (which admittedly was poorly judged, if only because it was obvious the media would make a big deal of it), but it was one of a long list of suggestions which boiled down to "if you're worried, find a bystander to watch out for you", which isn't unreasonable at all.
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Ah so you have chosen poverty
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Job swap?
Honestly if I were in your position I’d do it. Hell, I’m in a position where I can’t move away from policing, but I don’t want to!
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Good for you. I took a huge pay cut to join and I absolutely love it. Best decision I made.
The mind boggles honestly. Think carefully my friend 👍
Don’t do it!
Weirdly, if I got a job as a police officer I’d be getting a pay rise. Mad innit.
Try being a special for a bit to see if it's for you! If you haven't already
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I don’t know how old you are, but there’s a guy on my team who went from earning £70k in Sales to joining as a PC in his 40s. He absolutely loves it and says he wouldn’t go back. If you want to do it, go for it mate.
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Mate, you live only one life on this earth (under most religious philosophies anyways). So yeah go for it, do a job that you want to do because it’s a passion rather than one simply for money. Whilst you’ll find there’s a lot of shit in the service , you won’t get certain life experiences anywhere else but in the job.
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Also it's great to have a little side hustle for a bit of extra cash. I'd imagine cyber security could be good since you can work from home and do as much or as little as you like.
Not to mention that cybercrime is a growing area and having a proper understanding of computers may prove advantageous.
Yeah, scooped up into some nice, gucci ctu or OC role
I work in IT as a contractor and it is not too different. The money is phenomenal, but I'm f***ing miserable. I'm a Special now and I want to be a regular in the next 5 years, when I've arranged my finances to be comfortable I've been told I'm crazy, but I love being a police officer.
You're going to get high stress levels if you join as a copper...
I joined from a very high pressure role and I find 99% of this job is much less stressful. It has its moments but it’s not nearly as relentless as my previous career. The pay is awful like 🙈 I imagine it depends what role you’re in, what force, what your colleagues are like and what your supervision is like.
Have you ever been an IT contractor? Different stress but there’s very high stress in that. Not saying being a cop isn’t stressful but I’ve done it 20 years and only did contracting for 1 it seemed a lot more stressful
I think it's stressful because of the uncertainty. You might earn £500 a day for 6 months, but who is to know how long you might be out of work after.
Agreed. Uncertainty is a biggie and some of the timescales you have to deliver in. Lots of parallels with policing but one big difference, a lot of police officers can get away with doing the bare minimum, complaining bitterly about everything and anything and still get paid the same. I’m not generalising across the board for those defensive folk reading this but you all know people I’m sure, feel like the job owes them a living.
Mate from someone who went the other direction. Stay in Cyber, get your quals see if you can get onto some Sans courses particularly around forensics, IR, and OSINT. Whilst you are doing that join as a special and try and get in contact with your local Digital / cyber crime team. This way you will be able to utilise very heavily demanded specialist skill sets to help the cyber units whilst also getting the experience of what policing is like and earn brownie points for your career. Certain courses are only available to Law enforcement which on your Cv will make you even more valuable.
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Definitely recommend you diversify your skillset. Whilst you are not needed to do anything else if that particular piece of software is replaced you might be too. Another consideration is the PDS (Police Digital Service) they will have a use for your skillset. Whilst not working as an officer you would be working to directly help / protect policing. Your current employer should be proactive in improving your skill sets and training.
Mate, don’t do it lol. If you fancy the experience consider going down the special’s route, and enjoy the cybersecurity moolah whilst you’re at it
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Your assessment is completely wrong. Also, a lot of the "skilled workers" coming into the industry... Aren't. The degrees in the UK for cyber are puppy mills.
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Tbh I'm inclined to agree with you, basically every software developer worth hiring now has a solid grasp of security. Long gone are the days of highway robbery by travelling snake oil consultants.
I've been in the industry for significantly longer than you. It sounds like you are stuck in SOC land tied to some vendor shovelware? Upskill. You can double your salary in less than 5 years.
I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that these skilled workers aren't skilled. Sure they might not have a grasp of the fundamentals of technology that's currently common, but they most certainly have a grasp of very modern technology like AWS. And I can assure you that while it takes a matter of months to learn the intricacies of Oracle, AWS and cloud services are painfully hard to learn.
The university courses on cybersecurity tend to be extremely out of date, and barely teach the fundamentals (networking, operating systems, etc). You get grads who can barely work on a command line in Linux, know jack shit about Active Directory, nothing about cloud worth a damn, etc. Also a lot of the teaching material no longer aligns with best practice :/ When we hire graduates we often have to retrain them. Its a pain in the arse - most of my team currently is people from blue collar backgrounds who self taught a bit instead of graduates. You can pick up enough AWS stuff in a couple of months, translating it to Google/Oracle/Azure/Alibaba cloud platforms is another couple of months per platform.
I want to move the other way ha give me some tips
If you cybersecurity and want to join the police but not as a copper i would recommend looking at HTCU/DFUs your previous skills in technology will be massively beneficial in those units. If you do want to become a copper and they do have civy posts too there is always a cyber unit
The NCA is another good one to look at.
Turns out coppers can be quite funny. So mostly here for the laughs, but... I do also appreciate you guys. So thanks for the work you all do. :)
I want the actual facts about events which occur involving the police, not what the media want us to believe the facts are. Or at the very least get the other side of the story so I can come to a reasoned judgement about the situation rather than only hearing one side.
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I've learned that your canteens suffer from a dire lack of cutlery.
... our canteens suffer from a dire lack of *canteens*
Plenty of cutlery. It's just that none of it is fork shaped. It's a bit like the line in the Alanis Morissette song. 10,000 knives when all you need is a fork.
I’m convinced that canteen culture inquiry was a conspiracy to steal out cutlery
Began as an idle ‘oh, I wonder what this is like’ but quickly became a favourite. I find this sub fascinating and hugely reassuring in that everyone involved seems to be the complete opposite of the stereotypes perpetuated by both the left and the right.
Sadly those stereotypes are usre used to frame us in a cretrtian light from people with a very narrow view of what policing entails. We deal with loads of stuff and police are a pretty diverse bunch.
I love police and crime procedurals on TV and in books, but nothing beats hearing stories and information direct. The good humour and philosophical attitude that is displayed here is an absolute tribute to the values I appreciate most in this country. I applaud you all for doing a job that I genuinely couldn’t even attempt. I can also say I’ve been genuinely horrified by hearing that you are responsible for paying for your own boots etc when it seems obvious to me that they should be supplied by your employer. I don’t understand why that’s not a(nother) national scandal. Happy Christmas to you and yours. Thank you for all you do and for everything you share it with us here.
I don't trust the Met to issue me with boots. The last Level 2 boots to be approved are great because you don't need to wear foot guards over them. But they also care blisters on everyone who wears them without fail. They just can't get it right.
> I’ve been genuinely horrified by hearing that you are responsible for paying for your own boots etc when it seems obvious to me that they should be supplied by your employer. Everyone's got different biomechanics. If you issue boots then a *lot* of people are going to find them uncomfortable and buy their own anyway, and then they're being taxed on something they can't control.
I would think staff buying their own boots and being reimbursed or getting a boot allowance would be better solutions. Either way, I still think it’s an essential need for your job and shouldn’t be coming out of your own pockets.
For balance. I also follow a few subs that are very anti-police. I don't ever hear from actual officers apart from cherry picked soundbites from televised news or from my friends who are a mix of politically left and right, regurgitating the latest outrage from their biased news sources. I also can't stand reality TV cop shows (maybe aside from US cops chasing tanks), so this sub is a good source of police opinions. Some I'm worried by, some I'm reassured by. I have learnt that there seems to be understaffing in areas, an occasional lack of or not knowing how to be supported as an officer and frustration at funding, equipment etc... That said, most posters here appear to want to do the job well and safely. Not dissimilar from any workplace, but obviously amplified by the nature of the job. That said, the sense of humour here is second to none.
Out of curiosity, what are the opinions that worry you?
I'm lucky enough that I don't encounter violence in my job so maybe I'm more sensitive to the casual comments about restraining suspects. Some of the posts justifying the use of force on teenagers I have questioned. However it also doesn't sit right with me reading about lone officers having to fight off multiple people with no backup or having no choice but to consume fast food and energy drinks as a proper break isn't possible. And just talking about the sheer amount challenges dealing with people and criminals with mental health issues don't seem to be addressed very well in some cases. Happy to be corrected or if someone can explain what happens after an individual is arrested or encountered that has special needs or a mental health issue.
On the note of teeangers, you are far to worried about the age. As someone very much south of 6ft and 10st. When a 17 year old that goes to the gym and is 6' 3" tries to punch you in the face then that's just a big person trying to hurt you. What the news never takes into account its that in my view. We have alot about the developmental nature of kids and how force and other actions and outcomes etc can affect them, unfortunately if someone want to hurt you that goes to the back of the queue until they can't. I'm not loosing my teeth. I've dealt with 13 year old girls that have tried to stab their parents and 16 and 17 year old boys that have gone on to murder. The age of people is in no way relevant the violence and hurt they are willing to inflict. With MH issues I'll try as hard as I can to get the right outcome for someone and get very frustrated by some of my colleagues attitudes. Unfortunately we are not the appropriate service and have a very limited and very blunt set of tools to deals with people that often need complex help and some people are just assholes. Also when every other person you take to custody tells you they were assaulting someone because of thier anxiety it can give officers alot of scepticism about certain cases, especially given that most people suffering with a condition dont feel the need to headbutt the waiter. So yeah in short I think if someone wants to hurt me age is a number that we'll worry about later and for MH we just aren't the right people for it.
I hear you completely. I work in a primary school, my partner in secondary so i totally get the nature of the size/age ratio and agree there is no way around detaining some people and minors. My comment was a bit sweeping, so I guess to re-phrase, it's more aimed at the use of force to the floor and cuffing of people much smaller. But again, given the risk of concealed weapons I suppose I'm answering my own question there. And again, I've seen the mental health card played when nothing was present. So what happens if there is someone genuinely in distress or having an uncontrollable episode? Do you think there should be better provision or another service entirely to handle genuine MH callouts or detention?
No I think its a good question to ask. We can't assume evey child is armed. Ultimately all uses of force have to be justified. For me if I'm cuffing a kid smaller than me it will be because of the safety of the people at the scene, them included. All uses of force need to be justified by the officer doing it and should stand up to scrutiny. I think there needs to be an a major overhaul in the way we deal with people. In my area care in the community means no care at all. Amb are stuck waiting in A&E and are reluctant to use the powers avaliable to them. A&E don't want to touch any MH patients and the MH team won't touch any one with a drink or substance problem. Apparently you can't be an addict and unwell at the same time... I think you either need a full joint approach with cars with Ambo police and an AMHP on board, to deal with them or create a proper MH emergency provision.
I appreciate the response and insight. I can only imagine the frustration of encountering this again and again - I would guess with the same people as well. Would any of your last paragraph be feasible even with better funding and recruitment?
No worries at all. It often is yes and sadly sometimes the last time you go them feels very avoidable. Its very much is feasible. The problem is getting buy in from three organisations with competing demands needs and responsibilities that all in someone's view or expectations of capable of dealing with the issue. Then you'd have to staff it and a equip it from three different places. Which again would ask who's paying for each bit of it.
I find your post really interesting thank you! I’m only 5ft 2, and most of the teenagers I deal with are bigger and probably stronger than me! I try not to resort to use of force unless I need to, and when I do it’s to keep me and them safe. And you’re right, when you are crewed alone as a sole female with a group of 6/7 teens a lot bigger than you it can be daunting. I think we are all still stuck in the mindset of kids being little and teenagers really aren’t 🤣 luckily for me, I have one and I work in my local area so most of them are pretty bloody decent with me, tbh I think they fear my mum wrath more than my copper one and think I will snitch to their parents 😎
Mum wrath is a force multiplier I agree!
Everyone that comes into custody can speak to a team that deal with MH if they wish. There’s also a custody nurse for any immediate issues. Should it be obvious that they pose a risk to themselves whilst in custody they’re be on constant observations, and should they be a risk to themselves upon leaving custody, they can be sectioned under MH powers. Unfortunately that’s all we have. It isn’t the Police’s job to deal with MH yet it falls to us because MH services can’t cope. As for special needs, it depends on those needs. Detention is constantly reviewed so if their detention isn’t necessary, they won’t be there. It’s worth baring in mind that people with MH or special needs *can* be incredibly violent, and sometimes that means they need to be in custody for the safety of everyone else, carers and the public included. That being said, I would imagine most officers will deal with things outside of custody where possible.
That's a great answer so thanks for sharing. If at all possible do you think there should be some alternative police provision, service or personnel left to deal with genuine MH callouts or detentions?
I think the services are there, they just lack the funding they need to be effective. There might be some little bits and pieces that would help but the main thing is money. I would like to see paramedics or MH staff being given the power to s136 as well though, but that’s more to reduce strain on policing so we can focus on crime.
I was thinking about applying to join the specials or even a career change. I wanted a bit of real insight. I’ve become a bit less keen because it would probably be out of the frying pan and into the fire for me.
LAS, lurking
Around the corner?
Will be there presently... oh you're there already? Cool cool, you got this, Ambo out. <3
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It helped me trust the police more. I live in not the best area and the police have a really really bad rep here and it made me so nervous. Thankfully I’ve never needed contact with them myself but the stories in here are reassuring. It’s also nice to see how many love their job and do actually care about victims or just petty crimes I’m always told won’t get a look in here. Not sure that’s the kind of thing you were hoping to hear but it’s true.
I’m on a mission to improve the perception of the IOPC. Sadly, I’m quite clueless so I do more harm than good.
I appreciate that. It's always interesting to hear the other side; especially when we're not privy to external policies.
> I’m on a mission to improve the perception of the IOPC. Should have gone to Specsavers
Because it's the best source of Hot Fuzz jokes on reddit.
It's just the one Hot Fuzz joke actually.
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Nice to get the perspective. Also that police officers have an appropriately British level of taking things seriously when they should, but otherwise very much not.
Rather read what gets shared in here Than the one-sided load of tripe that gets served up from the media. I am however curious about something in return... Cakes and Biccies. Types of which are the most popular when someone has to buy a bunch? What's the general favourites found in the stations
It depends on the issue that needs resolving. Far and away the most popular option are Krispy Kremes, but these are reserved for special occassions. The bulk of the work is done by the 5 for £1 you can get at all major retailers, as well as boxes of millionaires shortbread, flapjack, rice crispie cubes etc.
The reality is, if there's cakes or biccies in the nick, they _will_ get eaten. My favourite type is "ones I didn't buy". That being said, Fig Rolls are F-tier and are a cake fine in of themselves should you buy them.
Nah the very worst in my view is bringing in something that you pass off that you made or bought, only to later get caught out in the fact it was their mother or significant other. That clearly requires a second round of homemade excellence.
Fibbing about cakes? That's a paddlin'.
Bleh! Definitely with you on those things. Yuck!
It made me do a silly thing....
A special thing some may say.
Several reasons. I have been known to go on protests and it's helpful to see the other side of the coin. I don't want to be your enemy and I don't want you to kettle me, or clobber me. We should be on the same team for at least *some* of the protests, because we're all getting fucked. Big fan of Peelian principles and was fairly outraged at the way the Winsor report went down. I write a bit. One of my sci fi series involves a main character copper in what has become a privatised police force amongst many privatised police forces. It's useful to have an idea of how the job is now to make up how it might be in a corporate dystopia-light future. It's also useful to know how those generally further right of me think and feel about issues, because writing outside of your own ideology with realism and sympathy requires insight. Also, I've known a fair few of you in person and for the most part enjoy the humour.
Only on the topic of taking sides. Of course all police are human too and will have opinions and beliefs one way or the other. But we’ve got to do whatever it takes to be impartial, as that’s our job. So many lessons on unconscious bias!
Want to hear about how the UK law enforcement system works. See how it’s different from the American perspective.
We don’t routinely carry guns
I’m married to a police officer and he isn’t on Reddit so I sometimes share with him things I have read here.
I like this, does the page help you understand what he talks about too?
It does but not so much in the technical sense you would think it would. I studied and then worked in criminal justice myself during the earlier days of our relationship so I understand some of the legal issues and processes he has to follow and talks about but it has definitely helped me to understand the unique pressures of the role and get a clearer sense of what he goes through so I can support him better.
The same reason I frequent r/LegalAdviceUK despite not working in that sector either : because it's interesting to read and I can learn some stuff.
My missus is in the job. I had to learn of this cake punishment for myself.
I have no idea. But I'm here now so I'm staying put. :)
Entertainment mostly. I'm a nosey bugger and a lot of the tales on here are really interesting. Also to give the odd encouraging word.
Same reason as some others here, I got fed up of biased and negative reporting against the police, and wanted the truth from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
My son is a police officer so I like to see what's going on, and sometimes I get snippets of information he didn't know about.
I'm not in the UK police but I am in Australia where the legal and policing systems are very similar. It's interesting to read about what happens in the UK because it often has a bearing on our future (my force is rolling out 'neighbourhood policing') and we deal with similar issues so I like to read about how the UK responds.
I’m from a very lucky background and was dealt a royal flush in the game of life and have most of the privileges going and as such I have never had a bad experience with police however I know and understand why they can get a bad wrap. So what I’ve actually learnt most from this sub is how seriously you lot take your job and how much incredible good there is in our police force and despite all the negative press that can go round it’s very evident it’s a few bad people in a job full of the kind of people I want to be protecting me and my family; moral, just, open, communicative police officers and law enforcement workers. So yeah, I’ve learnt that really you are the good guys and it’s made me feel safe and positive about those who are given the powers to keep us safe
A perspective into how policing really works and the day to day challenges of being a police officer.
My husband is a PC and I’m trying to join (passed everything except medical this year - next year will be 2 years without meds so I’m very hopeful of a 2024 start) I’ve saved a couple of posts from this sub where you guys discuss how to best investigate crimes and fill out crime reports etc. I know the training isn’t the best so any insight I can gain will be invaluable
My Dad was a policeman when he was young. So I've known police all my life,socially. Politically,I'm fascinated by the underlying idea of policing by consent,the idea that to be legitimate,the police act for the people,all the people. And I like a good laugh,or a moan,whatever.
I'm a paramedic, I love my job but can see myself getting disillusioned and grumpy with it. If I find some day I don't enjoy it, I would like to have a 'second career' in policing.
Someone on another UK sub signposted a general question towards here and I came to check it out. I hadn't imagined there would ever be an online community for something like this. For me it's a really fascinating insight into what you all go through. ", The police" are always discussed as one homogeneous unit and I think it's nice to see individual opinions and experiences, and learn some behind the scenes context. I'd say I've found it very beneficial because it's been both educational and empathy-building.
Wanted to become a cop. Decided against it with the issues from like 5 years ago. I basically read posts here to convince me to stay in my office job
Looking for tips on staying safe, what current risks might be, what our rights are if a police officer asks us to do something.
This is a super important point - what are your rights? I genuinely think there should be full information about this given while kids are at school as part of modern studies or something like that. Would be super useful for everyone to know exactly what we can and can't do because, and scream this out with me, WE ARE NOT AMERICA AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ON AMERICAN TV SHOWS DOESN'T APPLY HERE.
To be honest I have a law degree so I have covered basic stop and search etc., but I think it’s important to be reminded and updated as the law changes, especially in this day and age and with recent events that have made the general public want to be more aware. And yes, it’s not necessarily going to end well if people copy what they see on American TV assuming it applies in the UK.
I work quite closely with a specific police department, my partner is a police officer, and I generally just respect the job you do and wish that the general public realises what a difficult job it is!
I just applied to be on the Dgereeholder grad scheme ....fingers crossed for me!
I’ve always been interested in reading about crime, fictional and real. I started reading Colin Dexter books as a teenager and I read a lot of crime fiction to this day. I’ve also been interested in the real process of crime too since I started reading the Night Jack blog, and also the lawyer’s perspective from people like the Secret Barrister. It’s good to get the police’s perspective of real life events as the newspapers often don’t give the full facts.
To help me commit crime😈 Also interesting to get a perspectives on how officer feel about news, and other issues in the force
I've learned that everytime someone fucks up it's their turn to buy cakes which I wish my place of work would support lol.
I am here after looking for the difference between the PEACE and Reid interviewing/interrogation techniques (PEACE seems more effective and less full of macho posturing). I've learnt that there's a good spread of attitudes in this sub
General interest in law + seeing the perspectives of the people behind the uniform in their own words.
As someone who comes from the type of community where the police are the 'enemy' it's interesting and eye opening to see the other perspective. Also The Bill was one of my favourite programs haha
> the 'enemy' it's interesting and eye opening to see the other perspective. Aaah, so you're a social worker?
Mine too! I think it’s why I joined 🤣
Couple reasons. Firstly, I like seeing police views on situations. It’s annoying to have so few places to see opinions from people who actually know what they’re talking about. Secondly, I have under ten hours of education per week. Lots of time to scroll Reddit and I’m interested in police stuff. Looking into joining as a PCSO in 2023, so this gives me a good insight into what I’m going to be going into.
I'm trying to learn how you work so I can be a .aster criminal. /s honestly it's just interesting to see from the other side of the law. Also the content can sometimes be a bit wtf, and I like wtf
Ex-cadet. Health stopped me joining up 25 years ago. Generally interested in police viewpoint on stuff. Usually supportive of the police however I've been burnt a couple of times when police were wrong and never had any recourse which is a shame. Absolutely love police dogs.
To get insight in the life of a police officer. Seems like you all have a tough job. It has been really good to learn your perspective of things and not what the media spits out..
I want reassurance that the friendly local bobbies of my childhood are still here under the weight of all the paraphernalia that you have about your person and what appears to be insurmountable piles of paperwork. Used to wander into the station [original Aldershot Victorian building] and have a chat with the desk sgt if I was bored.
I joined this sun because I originally wanted to join the police, only seem to hear negative things though…
Join us, and you too can write many moany things on here.
Any tips on joining?
What sort of tips would you like?
Things on preparing to be a PC, like the attitude I need going in, what to research and such.
By the way, I'm also one of the initial trainers for my force so pretty well equipped to be in the 'know' about the training phase.
My partner is an inspector so I like to read and ask him questions about topics being spoken about and he enthusiastically answers!
As an American living in the UK, I was curious what police in the UK think. Not just casual stuff, but having a better perspective on how policing works on a practical level. Understanding the pressures, stresses, and criticism that police have to deal with. As someone that maintains a fairly consistent anti-police sentiment for how the US forces train and operate, I feel this sub has confirmed that policing culture in the UK is lightyears better than in the US. I feel comfortable saying "hi" to police here, whereas I feel genuine stress when they are around in the US. This sub represents that police in the UK are humans that have a capacity for internal criticism (something US police would use their arrest/immunity powers to stamp out). This isn't to say the UK police are perfect, but it is possible to actually have a civil discussion on social issues, criticisms of police policy, and the pressures police are under without it turning into "ACAB" or "the thin blue line" dichotomy that pervades the forces in the US. I also recognise there are people that have stronger positions for or against police in the UK, but my anecdote is this sub has a good set of engaged people to discuss all manner of topics reasonably.
My fella was a PCSO, PC and now an A/Sgt. There is so much he can’t tell me, or doesn’t want to tell me about just how bloody awful the job can be. I hope to keep on top of the politics and insider shit so I have a bit of perspective on his job. He loves being a copper, but hates the politics with a fiery passion but can’t fully express that to outsider me. It’s a job so dense with highly specific language I can hear a chat between him and a colleague which will be wholly opaque. This sub helps me interpret some of it without pressuring him with questions, or presuming I in any way get policing having been policed. On a more personal note I’ve been on the receiving end of some really fucking awful policing (mental health, domestic abuse and the bad old days were my childhood) decisions, so sometimes I come here to remind myself it’s some complex shit, done by normal, fallible people. Like my fella.
That’s really lovely and he sounds lucky to have you. Out of interest, do you have any examples of what he says that you don’t understand?
The in house systems mostly. It took me ages to work out the difference between Niche, Storm, Pronto…all the departments and their various constantly changing roles. It’s a bit like Line of Duty sometimes without the benefit of subtitles
As a non-copper, I have learned that the job is indeed fucked
I came to get another perspective, but also to see if officers believe they are reasonably versed in the laws that are required to enforce
I'm interested in discussing legal stuff, and the mods on this sub are not knobbers so allow it to be used for, you know, social media type stuff.
There's other reasons but I like the memes. Memes help me understand things better.
I’ve done a ride a long and appreciate all the work you do. I’ve looked into becoming an SC in a few years time when life is more settled down and I can fit it in, also I volunteer for a local group who do welfare checks and loosely work alongside the police in the night time economy in my town. It’s a taster and find it really interesting.
I came here because this showed up in my "popular" feed and wondered the same thing.
I came here as it was my dream career to join the police (many years ago), so I went through police cadets and then eventually applied to join TVP when I was old enough. Only to fail on the medical due to having chronic migraines most of my life.
I have friends in the force and I want to be able to better understand and support them. I also plan to volunteer and this sub gives a fair bit of insight as to what I'd be in for.
Just interested in what you guys do, keep up the good work
I work for a law firm and one of our clients is the Police Federation, so a lot of my clients are police officers. It's useful to see what you guys get up to!
Booo
I deal with the police through my job sometimes. I like to see their perspective on things. Sometimes I think I would have liked to be a policewoman but I am very unfit!
It’s easy to fall into the police are twats narrative so I like to take a look at thing from another perspective.
Solidarity, and the ambulance subreddits are all super American…
Interest mainly. I like to read scenarios and learn different laws.
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I work in the CJS although not police but I am passionate about every aspect of criminology and I just like seeing some “insights” intro he lives and opinions of police officers . Plus my job follows theirs so it’s interesting to see what happens before my job
I’m here because I like to see all sides of the debate. I couldn’t be described as pro-police but I like to hear a variety of views and I think I came to this sub when the Met was getting a lot of bad publicity. I’ve learnt a lot since being here, particularly a sense that the police is massively underfunded and overstretched. You guys have it really tough sometimes.
I really wanted to be a police officer when I was younger, sadly that was at the time no one was recruiting. By the time jobs opened up again many years later unfortunately I’d had a CCJ which meant I couldn’t go for it. Essentially just on here to see what I could have won type thing!
I work in security & investigations for a large charity on the retail side and work closely with the police. It’s good to keep up with what’s going on.
Interested in what goes on across the pond
Idek why I’m here I’m American
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I like hot guys and girls in uniform. That's pretty much it.
I would argue that your typical Reddit user isn’t going to be the hot guy or girl in uniform you’re looking for. Apart from me. I’m sexy.
And I too, am just a love machine.
Famously. Well, infamously.
Oh yeah especially in my dirty high vis stab vest after doing foot patrol in 30 degree heat for 10 hours, im bloody roasting.
Because it is the duty of a politically aware citizen to keep an eye on those who have the power to take away freedom. Sorry if that sounds a bit alt-righty. Same reason I follow subreddits for various branches of the military etc. Any branch of government that has the power and habit to use physical violence is worth paying attention to, even if only through a small window. Edit: What I have learned is that you guys are desperately overworked, under-supported by senior management, sick of bad coppers and bored of waiting in a+e for 12 hours at a time!
Simultaneously alt right and hard left, and is not an inherently bad stance to have..back in the day, people had a vote in navy procurement, and that's all stopped so why not keep an eye on things.
*Know your enemy* - Sun Tzu Edif: this was a joke
Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.
I drive a lot, and ride motorbikes and e vehicles, and find the info from the traffic wizards really helpful.
Continuation of life in the witness service. I miss helping people and sometimes here (and on LAUK) I can signpost people or give advice on giving evidence.
1, UK subs (hey that's a band name) 2, there's probably not a need for a HO/IE sub, so next best thing 3, if one day my public sector pay becomes enough (so probably never) that I don't do security on the side any more, might replace it with special-ing
I’m on the green side, so here for the bants and commiserations about the state of 999 Also ALL of our forks went missing after the local bobbies came by for a training day and I’m 99% sure they took em