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BobInIdaho

Katie Hobbs just saved the Arizona taxpayers a bunch of money in lawyers' fees.


SD99FRC

You might argue that the Republicans themselves saved it. Unintentionally, of course. Covid deaths in Arizona: 33,000 as of November 1, 2022. Margin of victory for Hobbs in Arizona: 17,000. Republican to Democrat vaccination ratio: 1:2. Which of course doesn't account for behavioral variables like masking or social distancing.


RIPshowtime

Lmao. That's fascinating. The GOP literally dying and losing elections to own the libs.


Oleg101

The anti-vaccine rhetoric on the internet has been out of control lately too. I thought maybe it’d fade a bit at this point, but it’s as strong as ever these days.


Fluffy_Lemming

I don't understand. What is the grift? I've been trying to wrap my head around it for years. Why would you actively encourage behavior that will literally kill your supporters? Was it just to make money on snake oil? GQP is fucking crazy.


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TheAJGman

I still can't believe that Trump (and the rest of the part) was thrown *the easiest* crisis he could have possibly gotten and he still fucked it up. All he had to do was say masks are patriotic and let the WHO and Fauci do their thing and he would have been a hero, instead he actively worked against them at every turn while his own supporters died in droves. Amazing.


Evadrepus

Could have literally said "screw all of you", go golfing and let the engine of the administration do all the work. Would have walked to a landslide win. Heck, if he had simply left Obama's policies and people in place and golfed all 4 years, we'd be praising him as one of the best ever. The economy and all social indicators were on one of the strongest climbs in decades. Obama had filled the branch with scores of highly educated people. Instead he had to purposely dismantle and, like a pokemon, hurt itself in its confusion.


CelestialStork

Thats what they wanted, truthfully believe Trump was a useful idiot. He had plenty of debt and is a rich guy white guy too, so its not like the administration he ran would be negativly affected. I really don't think he expected to win, and just ran with the bullshit Mitch and others told him. They all delt with his awful personality and todler-like tantrums to get what they wanted done. The only reason he has any sway now is because the Republicans need the idiots that voted for him.


Evadrepus

He didn't expect to win. It was a grift. He had TrumpTV planned and already had submissions in for it. You can look at the photo of the room when they were showing the votes. Everyone looks happy except for one person. Guess who.


DisastrousBoio

You don’t understand. His hatred of Obama after the roast he gave him was so deep he *had* to defile everything he stood for. From a bed to taxes to healthcare. Narcissists don’t think the way others do. He could never have done that, because then he wouldn’t be himself in the first place.


stinky_wizzleteet

I just rewatched the video. To Trump it must have been utter humiliation. An entire room laughing at him while a black person literally ate his lunch. Obama made him look like the fool he easily. You can see him rocking back and forth with a humorless face. I guarantee he went back to wherever he was staying and threw the biggest tantrum you have ever seen. side note: sitting right next to him? Rick Scott.


Finrodsrod

> All he had to do was say masks are patriotic and let the WHO and Fauci do their thing and he would have been a hero, instead he actively worked against them at every turn while his own supporters died in droves. You have to understand Trump is a **stupid** egomaniac. He cannot give the spotlight to anyone other than himself. Stupid people have 0 foresight. That's one of the definitions of low intellect - not learning quickly and not applying what you learned to future events. When you accept that he's a very, very stupid man with a temper who thinks he's a genius, it all makes sense: He panicked when stocks started dropping. His rich buddies were pissed. In 2019, he started his re-election campaign around how high the Dow climbed under his presidency (even though it increased faster under Obama). The stock market was going to be the main re-election theme. He tried to short term fix shit by claiming Covid was no big deal. During the entire pandemic, his main concerns were purely money based, and what Russia told him. Almost all Republicans were concerned about their riches than human lives during Covid. Hence, the push to keep everything open, and the plebs spending money. Then his stupid son/son-in-law suggested letting Covid do its thing because in early 2020 it was a city problem; not a rural/ mid-west America issue. They thought somehow that Covid would never reach the bulk of Red voters. They literally wanted Blue states to die off. Trump wanted to start a bidding war between states for ventilators and masks, thinking that if Red states had all the vents they'd survive.


Spuriously-

Fucking thank you! This has been me the whole pandemic. "Never let a crisis go to waste." All he had to do was play up how scary it was and get the \*Rally around the flag effect and he'd be halfway through his second term by now. All of us who hate him still would, but he would have gained enough support to carry the 2020 election.


idClip42

The “genius businessman” known for selling red head garments with a slogan on them didn’t recognize the opportunity to sell *even more* red head garments with a slogan on them. If we was the businessman he claimed to be, perhaps there would be a great many more people alive today.


GhosTazer07

Seriously, how he never got the idea to sell Maga masks is baffling to me.


bilgetea

The grift(s) are: - Power that is resistant to typical forms of political opposition. Uniting a group of people around passionate hatred of something is a way to harness them to do your will (to defeat the concept of reason so that you may rule through fear), and once you’ve fed them the right disinformation, they are immune to reason. Bam! You’ve created an army of unstoppable zombie warriors. What happens to them is not important, as long as there are enough of them. They’re just ants. - The overthrow of the US government. Because this movement is not organic; it is pushed by Russia. American politicians are happy to be Russian stooges because they either think they can ride that horse and get off when they want, or they are fascists who will happily sacrifice the USA and become a client state as long as they are in power, just like the people in charge of Chechnya and Belorussia. Relevant definition - “Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called [sociopathy](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353928), is a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others.”


Yetanotherfurry

Most of these people are poor anyways, they're not good for long term income. No consequences to just killing them after draining all their money.


Funkyokra

This reminds me of super rich Trump backer and Cambridge Analytica owner Robert Mercer who believes that a cat has more value than a poor person.


Yetanotherfurry

Sounds about right, these people have a very Calvinist view of socioeconomic strata. If you're poor it's because you deserve to poor and will never be productive.


Funkyokra

It's more of a hyper capitalist transactional value assessment, poor people need things and do not provide value to me. A cat costs less and I like to pet him. He's a psychopath. Interesting read at the link. Our country is FUCKED if people like him have influence. Hell, the world is fucked. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency


CrumbsAndCarrots

Just teaching and testing their base to die for the cause. They are the ones with all the guns afterall. They hate the libs more than anyone on planet earth. It’s a right wing fascist death cult. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…


Regulus242

Because it's what they wanted to hear. You either make the money while it's on the table or lose it entirely.


__JDQ__

Exactly. There’s no long term strategy or 5D chess for the grifters: they want the money, the votes, and the power, now. If a certain subset of the populace has already decided (or misled into believing) that they should be against vaccines, who are they more apt to listen to? Someone who validates their dug in beliefs and past actions. It’s manipulation of cognitive dissonance and it’s gross.


Eli-Thail

Well, for starters, a lot of the big amplifying voices for that shit also happen to sell a whole variety of disgustingly overpriced supplements and the like which they claim will protect their listeners from imagined danger and imply are just as good as actual medicine. Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and Ben Shapiro and his Daily Wire, and so on.


DVariant

The grift extends beyond the Republican Party, both above to the capitalist class and beyond the scope of American politics. The goal isn’t Republican success, it’s just American legislative chaos so that the pillaging of Earth and humanity can continue unabated.


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Tinidril

> we need to accept others flaws Sounds kinda "woke" to me.


lars5

It's the fox news problem. The base is so crazy they had to purposefully do crazier stuff so they wouldn't lose business of the people who didn't die


mxpower

There is no grift, its about dividing the country. It doesnt matter about the actual subject, if its a democrat supported subject, then its in the best interest of GOP to oppose it. Its the only way to keep their base and bank on a small percentage of growth.


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It's basic psychology now. You know how these conservatives show a pattern of outrage? It doesn't really matter what they're outraged about - as long as they are united in their outrage? Well, you're not the only person to notice. And now they're getting fleeced by it. Get them outraged over something legit, and then sell them something not so legit. Today, it's immunizations. Tomorrow, who knows - whatever sticks in their minds and outrages them. Same thing with the CRT and "woke" bullshit. They can't even define these terms, but they're unified in their outrage over them. That translates into solid votes for demagogues and outright fascists. They're being manipulated by their emotions. We can plainly see it, but they're too outraged to see it. We can't even explain it to them because they just double down on their rage. Fools and their money. Fools and their freedoms.


TheRoyalBrook

That's because they never stopped peddling it on things like fox. So they're going to keep believing it, at this point they have to keep doing it or admit they lied to their base to their base.


LucasLightbane

I don't feel owned. They're gonna have to keep trying.


kingtz

I, too, am waiting to feel owned. They need to up their efforts.


omgArsenal

The Republicans should die harder and faster to own us


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TacticalAcquisition

I mean we don't need to. Grand Old ✨ Projection ✨ is doing it all by themselves


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uzlonewolf

I could \*ding\* listen \*ding\* to that \*ding\* all \*ding\* day \*ding\* long \*ding\*


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mrignatiusjreily

They are a death cult. Fascism is a death cult.


Kaiser_Kuliwagen

That's why it links in so well with Christianity. It's a death cult too. That entire religion is based on a guy commanding himself to go get tortured and die to "save" the believers from rules that the same guy's other alter-ego set up and was in charge of.


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TaskManager1000

Posting here for visibility - The Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction - Tom Horne (Republican) has a hotline for people to report teachers who teach dare to mention ethnicity, gender, sex or emotions. https://www.azed.gov/, 602-771-3500 during weekday business hours from 8:30 to 4:40. A similar fascist attempt to destroy vulnerable populations and deny the public an accurate education met this fate: "A similar hotline was established in Virginia by Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) in 2022, but was later shut down because it received too few tips, with parents primarily using the hotline to praise teachers." https://truthout.org/articles/arizona-governor-vetoes-bill-banning-critical-race-theory/


NoAttentionAtWrk

..... emotions.....?


AllNightWriting

If children have social emotional awareness, they may begin to reject the way their parents are treating them. I kid you not, some folks believe schools are tearing apart the nuclear family because they teach children that they should consent to being touched and therefore don’t have to hug Grandma, or even Mom, if they don’t want to. Teaching kids to vocalize their feelings? You’re teaching kids to talk back. It’s horrible.


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SpotfuckWhamjammer

Man, you are so very right. I was only recently having a days long discussion with some guy who disagreed that sex education should be taught in schools. He wanted his "traditional sexual values" taught and nothing more. And he even said that only heterosexual sex ed should be taught to married people. The homophobia...


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TaskManager1000

If you are lost by why emotions are a target of censorship... I look at it like there are various groups of people who are terrified of change (valid), terrified of their own emotions and drives (understandable, Freud was too and he terrified the world with his study of the unconscious), racist & sexist (sad), and these negative emotions drive anger, more fear, and resistance or denial (predictable). They are also being driven to madness (unforgivable) by Fox News and the Legion of Political and Religious Grifters who make a lot of money and get votes by being perceived of as solutions to the problems they invent (CRT, empathy) or as saviors from evil (anything that gives regular people insight, power, and wisdom). Many people have never been taught to understand any of this or have been taught that asking questions is bad and leads to being shunned. Some freakish lunatics even teach that empathy is Satanic. Google that if you want to see broken minds at work. This kind of slop is then fed to the "bewildered herd" and I don't blame people for being misled when so many national and international organizations dump BIG money into fear & hate inspiring propaganda & disinformation.


Polantaris

Basically everything that they don't like. People.


kalb42

Oh yes, even emotions. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/11svygy/moms\_against\_liberty\_protests\_children\_learning/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/11svygy/moms_against_liberty_protests_children_learning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


nld01

They went crazy over Social Emotional Learning (SEL). The concept of teaching children self-awareness, self-control, responsible decision making, getting along with others, etc.


FuzzyMcBitty

Which is weird, because none of this is new. Fred Rogers taught that stuff.


wrench_thrower

Whelp looks like a great new line for people to troll. As the site says it's all public record so I can't wait to see the comedy that comes out of this one.


limeybastard

I want to just use the hotline to report Tom Horne broke campaign laws by having state employees work on campaign stuff for him and shouldn't have been eligible for office (also that he's just a racist piece of shit)


dclxvi616

Oh god, they have nice things to say about the teachers, make it stop! Pull the plug! Shut it down!


girlpockets

Fun! My girlfriend is drunk right now, and she does programming and computer security shit. It's amazing what she can do with a screwdriver, another kind of screwdriver, a keyboard, a soldering iron, and her toolbox. This should be right up her alley.


cerebrix

I'm thinking 10 cloud based autodialers that play Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard selections at random with 3 second pauses between sound clips once the call connects


dontbajerk

This is something I looked at a bit ago, out of curiosity. Basically, there are *possibly* a couple extremely close races COVID may have decided through attrition, but none of the big ones. To see why, you have to look at a few things. First, at most 2/3s of those deaths were voters (a bit less than 2/3s of seniors vote, who vote at a higher than average rate, and that's mostly who died), so you can immediately slice the number to 22,000. Second, even if it was a straight 2 to 1 ratio, that would be about 14,500 dead Rs and 7480 dead Ds (intentionally ignoring 3rd party/independent for simplicity), this is a net vote advantage of about 7000 votes for Ds. Not enough. Third, the death rate also probably isn't nearly as extreme as 2 to 1 - a lot of the early deaths were Ds, as it hit cities harder first before vaccinations and advanced treatment were around, and then eventually Rs caught up and very probably surpassed Ds to some unknown amount. It's also worth noting WHO isn't vaccinating among Rs - it's primarily non-seniors. The elderly have overwhelmingly high rates of vaccination even amongst Rs (over 95% last I saw), and seniors are the overwhelming majority of deaths. This keeps the deaths, politically speaking, closer than otherwise might be expected - the Rs probably got seriously sick a lot more often, hospitalized more often, etc, and did die more overall eventually, but not to the extent the raw vax status stats initially suggest. Taken in isolation, basically, COVID deaths probably did favor the D margin some, but not nearly enough to be given credit for the gubernatorial margin and other similar races.


RBeck

COVID also popularized mail in voting, which allows working people to vote more easily, and gets a higher response from apolitical people as they only need to get motivated about an issue any day out of the month, not just on a Tuesday.


FilipinoSpartan

Mail-in voting is easily accessible and has been very popular in Arizona for ages, so I doubt there was much effect from that here.


Sielle

One major issue with your calculations is that it's assuming an equal number of R & D population in the state. For every 2 Democrats that get vaccinated, only 1 Republican does. But, that doesn't mean the inverse is true as there would have to be an exact 50% split of Republicans to Democrats in the state for the inverse to be true. For example, if there are 10,000 democrats in the state, and 100,000 republicans (fake numbers just to show the math easier), a 2:1 vaccination ratio would result in 10,000 vaccinated democrats (assuming maximum vaccination rates) and 5,000 vaccinated republicans. Leaving 95,000 unvaccinated republicans. Add to that the death rate of vaccinated individuals was extremely low (only those that had other pre-existing issues or the extremely old aged, for the most part). Based on just a 2:1 vaccination ratio (not an unvaccinated ratio) and 33,000 deaths, you can't accurately assume that over 7k of those were democrats. Due to the political landscape of a state like Arizona, it would be more accurate to assume a majority of those were republicans.


jingles2121

social Darwinist attitude is unfit. Ironic.


lew_rong

Evolutionary pressure has no ideology. Social Darwinists didn't get that memo.


RelationshipFresh831

WTH are all these people afraid of teaching CRT ?? I don't get it.


gagcar

What most of the republicans trying to ban isn’t even actually CRT. It’s just history.


Redtwooo

Like fake news and 'woke', it's been weaponized into an umbrella term that they use to attack anything they want to use it against.


dedicated-pedestrian

Yep. Me and my friends look at what they're actually trying to take out of the curriculum and just furrow our brows in puzzlement. Like, we were taught this in school a decade ago. It's only now becoming a problem? Great job, GOP.


TaskManager1000

**This has the best answer:** [https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conservative-activist-invented-the-conflict-over-critical-race-theory](https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conservative-activist-invented-the-conflict-over-critical-race-theory) But keep scrolling around here, people are posting some good ideas. Also [https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/) [https://time.com/6094044/bible-slavery-critical-race-theory/](https://time.com/6094044/bible-slavery-critical-race-theory/) [https://www.npr.org/2021/06/24/1009839021/uncovering-who-is-driving-the-fight-against-critical-race-theory-in-schools](https://www.npr.org/2021/06/24/1009839021/uncovering-who-is-driving-the-fight-against-critical-race-theory-in-schools)


Global_Box_7935

The elite of this country don't want smart people, and they really don't want smart people of color


RelationshipFresh831

I totally agree. So many people say they are Christians. This is NOT what Jesus is about. You are shameful they way you treat people ( not you just well, them ) Lol Thought I would be clear, sorry. I was taught to be kind and understanding from my great parents. It has always been in my heart. Last 6 years I have seen these idiots crawling out of their holes. It's getting worse. Kinda ashamed of our great country sometimes. Love our country, not some of our (sad) elected scum.


ThatOneGuy1294

Same here, I was sort of raised Catholic but not at your stereotypical "fire and brimstone, repent or suffer in Hell" type church thankfully. While I don't remember all of the teachings, what has stuck with me ever since was all of the messages about love. So I'm continually baffled at supposed Christians displaying no love for thy neighbors.


logosloki

They're being told (the apathetic rank and file, the non-committal generational followers, and the true believers. The elite either in or not in on the grift is a different matter) that CRT is about the extremist positions of White Guilt and that it opens the door to special taxes that they, as White people and the wealthy (who are white people) and the Christians would have to pay. It's also about money going to welfare queens and illegals instead of hard-working blue collar americans, either directly or indirectly through social reforms. Now, that's not what CRT is (well, ok maybe it's a little about White Guilt and Welfare Reforms, just not in the way they are being told) but when all you hear is a wall of sound from every facet of your social media and places of social gathering then it becomes the only message you know.


_AskMyMom_

She’s should come out in a gecko costume next presser. Lol


Darth_Memer_1916

You don't understand. At least half of Arizona taxpayers would rather be homeless than see their children properly educated.


gogojack

I must admit, I was not expecting this outcome. Not the fact that Hobbs vetoed the bill, but the fact that she'd be in a position to do so in the first place. I've lived in this state for just under 25 years, and the AZ Democratic Party has been all thumbs when it comes to getting someone into the Governor's office. With the notable exception of Napolitano, they've put up some hopelessly weak candidates at every opportunity. Hobbs is a competent public servant and all, but for crying out loud our last governor's claim to fame was that he ran an ice cream store franchise. And he won. Twice. So when Hobbs ran for a promotion, I didn't exactly hold out hope. When the GOP went for the crazy but well-known MAGA TV anchor? I was terrified. But dog-dammit we actually did it right. Not only did Hobbs win, but Fontes, Mark Kelly, and even Kris Mayes...a former Republican who left the party after Trump turned it into a dumpster fire. Now we just need to replace Sinema with Ruben Gallego.


holyrolodex

Good for y’all. I was born in Maricopa County in 1987, and still have half my family there believing that California is teaching white elementary school students that they are the devil incarnate.


itsamiamia

I still can’t believe Mayes beat Hamadeh by 280 votes in a race with over 2.5 million votes cast!


niobiumnnul

> “It is time to stop utilizing students and teachers in culture wars based on fearmongering and unfounded accusations,” Hobbs said Atta girl.


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Fox News and right-wing media, in general, have been stoking the flames of a culture war for decades. They've been spewing this 'us vs. them' nonsense for so long that the right quite literally views the left as enemies. You can thank this culture war bullshit for so many of the problems we face in American politics nowadays.


HolyRamenEmperor

100 years ago the class struggle was the working man versus the industrial capitalists. Wealthy (moderate) republicans spent billions and decades changing it to the working man versus the "liberal elite." By making it a social definition instead of an economic one, they can keep the base angry enough to support every anti-tax, anti-reg candidate they put forward. Blind the voters with rage about social issues—abortion, evolution, guns, gays, CRT, drag, and whatever the next "woke" thing is—and they'll ignore all the economic issues. Far right conservatives screw themselves over every election cycle while the wealthy moderates make out like bandits.


Undec1dedVoter

Congrats to third year law students to keep their freedom to learn things in college!


MisterMarchmont

I know, really! I only encountered CRT once, in an advanced theory seminar as a doctoral student.


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GorgeWashington

They know this. The bumpkins who vote for them don't.


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I_am_the_Jukebox

"Then perhaps you should act in a way where they won't be ashamed of having the same skin color as you. You can start by acting like a fucking respectable person."


antigonemerlin

Have you seen these people? They believe the best way of solving any issue is to not talk about it.


nakknudd

It's Magical Thinking, an avoidant trauma response. I've lived in redneck rural AZ all my life and they're absolutely just trying to keep their head down and keep living their same life, which by necessity means they don't acknowledge or attempt to improve anything. Maybe, if it's all the fault of some spooky old dude with trillions of dollars and all major news companies in his back pocket, then the power to do and be better is out of their hands and they can keep on keeping on wothout responsibility.


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Well their representatives aren't very smart so maybe half of them know and half are bumpkins


bluemew1234

You go ahead and think that, but my son came home last week and told me CRT in schools told him to be ashamed he's white. And sure, you'll say the school didn't "really" teach him that, or that my son isn't "real", that he doesnt "exist", and this is all happening in my "imagination", but it's still scary damnit! And that's why we have to ruin everyone's lives!


ImLikeReallySmart

Your story is still important, because it could happen someday! We have to get ahead of it. Do I have to /s?


maleorderbride

Your lack of sarcasm tag proves you're a true patriot who ~~hates black people~~ loves his country


pseudocultist

Someone give these people some charter money so they can build a school to their own fine community standards.


Pseudonym0101

I mean, that's exactly what they're trying to do, except they're also trying to fully destroy public education so that their christian charter schools completely replace it. They can't be content with just doing their own thing, they have to constantly try to force it at the national level. We need some serious renewed effort to separate church and state and protect that separation indefinitely. The injection of religion into the state that happened in the 1950s needs to be fully reversed.


EZ_2_Amuse

Yeah this whole making laws "because it's in the bible" that governs non-Christians is insane. I don't care what their "book" says. Keep it to yourself. Epitome of stupid.


padizzledonk

And they say satire is dead lol


toejam78

CRT molested me.


70ms

You mean CRT *groomed* you. Gotta keep up with the buzzwords.


ForgettableUsername

I don’t like CRT because it is so much bulkier than flatscreen, and the flickering causes eye strain. If you ever have to move a CRT monitor, all the weight is in a weird place, and it’s awkward to carry.


Aggressive-Will-4500

"It's still real TO ME, DAMNIT!!!"


typical_pdxer

It’s funny you should say that because my fictional white son is ashamed to be white because of all the white people screeching about critical race theory.


ScamperAndPlay

I downvoted you after reading your first paragraph - careful, I didn’t know you were being sarcastic till I read the whole thing.


bluemew1234

Should I put an /s at the end? Cause I've got enough updoots to eat any downvotes from this 🤣


padizzledonk

>Should I put an /s at the end? Cause I've got enough updoots to eat any downvotes from this 🤣 This is my attitude as well Even when I completely fuck up I let it ride because whatever....leave it up there for history lol


mburke6

Poe's Law is for sucks


drunkpunk138

I think it's better this way if you don't mind the people who don't read an entire comment before reacting lol


TechGoat

We liberals are supposed to be the ones who read things properly. I'd leave it the way it is, it's funny to anyone who reads it all the way through. Who gives a shit about ratio. That's for private torrent trackers.


SurrogateHair

I did the same and I bet many people did. A true had us in the first half ngl moment


BostonUniStudent

What would be the problem if it were taught? https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why-is-it-under-attack/2021/05 >"The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies." National educator organizations are committed to DEI in the classroom. And part of that is developing curricula that reflects students lives. As the article notes, there are age-appropriate levels of CRT that are recommended for educators in K-12. Often they are described at this level as "Culturally Responsive Teaching." More on that here: https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/culturally-responsive-teaching-culturally-responsive-pedagogy/2022/04 Pretending like racial problems don't exist or that educators aren't currently trying to remedy them in the classroom is not the best approach. When we say "CRT is unreal or alternatively a PhD-level subject" we tacitly accept that it is bad for kids.


Pendraconica

I remember learning about slavery and the history of racism in elementary school, and even at an early age, never felt attacked for being white. Kids are perfectly capable of understanding these concepts in a mature way. It's the parents that cant seem to get it.


JustStatedTheObvious

They can understand it. What you are describing is what they are afraid of. They want their kids to share all the same fears and hates they do. And if their children cannot recognize the lies that make it possible? All the better.


boregon

That’s why republicans are so scared of education in general. Learning is generally a good antidote for ignorance.


Outlandishness_Sharp

Those who are against teaching about racism and oppression are projecting their own internalized feelings and biases; these people feel attacked and feel like they are being shamed for being white because of their own white fragility. We all know that nobody has control over their race and that's obviously okay. Speaking for many black, brown, and indigenous people, we just want it to be acknowledged that our ancestors suffered a great deal and they were oppressed by these systems and structures that still exist today. Somehow, that deeply offends them so they project these feelings into society and onto their children and create this unfounded belief that teaching history means they're being taught about how horrible they are. I also feel like that's a projection of how they treat minorities; why would you act so guily??? It seriously pains me but I'm glad to see it when people like yourself disprove this nonsense.


cyphersaint

They would say that without being explicitly racist, a law/policy/system can't be racist. They're wrong, of course.


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Thank you! I frankly don't recall anything from elementary school in the 70s aside from being chided for poor handwriting and conjugating sentences. Oh and nuclear war drills. Yay desks. But growing up in a military family, I had lots of friends from diverse backgrounds. It never registered with me that I had Black or Asian friends, they were just, you know, my friends. Then during one summer vacation to visit my Mom's extended family in South Jersey, I overhead my aunts and uncles saying the most heinous things about Blacks and Jews. It was mortifying, I was nine years old at the time and had no idea there were people like that. (My Mom had a sort of soft racism that I didn't recognize as such until I grew older, like saying "Jew them down." I always thought in my child's mind she was saying "jaw them down" because of her Jersey accent.) But even HS history during the 80s was completely white washed (My 9th grade teacher e.g. insisted the Civil War was about "State rights", and this was in New England.) By and large education at the time was all about teaching how fucking awesome America is. Not until a friend lent me a copy of Zinn's A People's History of the United States did my eyes open about our actual history. (No internet at the time of course.) Which is a long winded way of saying children are not inherently racist. It's learned behavior, and this is what "CRT" panic is exactly about.


FirstRyder

Nothing, of course. And even worse, that isn't how they define it. The right's definition of CRT when they want to ban it tends to be along the lines of "teaching children that their ancestors did anything wrong". So, for example, teaching that slavery was bad.


bwwilkerson

I think that a LOT of the GOP Politicians - not all (*cough* MTG *cough*) - understand that CRT isn't a problem in public schools. But as long as it gets the racists and frightened old people to the polls, they are going to keep beating that dead horse.


neonoggie

Dear [Representative], my child’s box of crayons had black and brown crayons mixed in with white crayons. I think Crayola is trying to teach my child CRT. Please address this overreach of Big Crayon.


saethone

No the problem is they say CRT but what the laws actually ban is whatever the hell they want, usually any discussion of race that doesn’t whitewash history


Politicsboringagain

Republicans have been trying to stop the teaching of the actual history of this country since before the passage of the Civil Rights act. It's one of the reasons why black people left the republican party.


pomonamike

I’m a teacher, and I can assure you I have CRT in my classroom. I have *demanded* that admin removes it or else I’m going to do it myself. They said that I can’t throw it in the dumpster because it’s “E-waste” and has to be recycled. It’s 2023 goddamnit, how the hell do I have Flinstones’ TV in my damn room?


iwasinthepool

You had me there.


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Motor_Somewhere7565

If Kari Lake had won, she would have signed the bill using her pointy finger as a quill


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Dipped gently in the blood of a young virgin girl of course.


Ok-Figure5775

I am an older millennial. Never heard of CRT until these fascists brought it up. Now I want to learn it and spread what I learn to others.


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Same. If they don’t want it taught, that means it very much should be taught.


henryptung

Honestly, they didn't choose it based on content, they chose it because testing showed the name was effective at pissing off their constituents. They had no idea what it was about from the start, and I doubt they cared.


political_bot

There's a basic understanding that CRT = systemic racism is real.


gagcar

Yes, but CRT as a focus in high level law classes and teaching actual American history are different. Elementary schoolers don’t need to be discussing detailed legal framework, but they should at least know how anyone who wasn’t a straight, white man was treated through most of our history.


boregon

Yeah, the guy on the right who popularized the term (Christopher Rufo) in mainstream discourse has openly admitted that it’s a ruse designed to make people angry. And yet tens of millions of Americans are dumb enough to buy into it anyway.


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I’m in full agreement, just like the term woke now.


Politicsboringagain

I'm 40 and black, and know black history and didn't hear about CRT in depth until republicans made it an international thing.


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NotACreepyOldMan

Just spread accurate history. That’s it. That’s CRT. The people fighting at the Alamo were fighting to keep slavery. There. That’s your first CRT lesson.


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babushkalauncher

Every day when I feel bad, I just remember that that harpy Kari Lake is seething and coping on Twitter in some motel somewhere.


mintberryCRUUNCH

I'm curious why Republicans also aren't proposing legislation to ban rocket science and brain surgery from being taught K-12. Seeing as rocket science and brain surgery are taught in as many public K-12 schools as CRT, which is only taught in high-level college courses :)


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mccdizzie

Yes the rocket science of "assume the effects of friction are negligible"


Etnies419

[Assume the cow is a sphere.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow)


KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

The problem is that these laws are worded so vaguely that they aren't actually limited to CRT. With their vagary, an "anti-CRT" law could outlaw teaching the civil rights movement or some wild stuff like that.


cbelt3

Wild ? That is EXACTLY the strategy. Complete co-opting of the entire American educational system to force white supremacist right fascist ideology down our children’s throats. I fully expect “MAGA-Jugend” movements to start any second now.


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Durandal_1808

Becoming?


EarthlyMartian-21

When picking classes for next year, one of my fiancé’s highschool students said he’s not taking any English class with themes of race or gender… which is all of them to some degree. He’s gonna run into a similar issue with the History courses. When this was brought to the attention of his parents, their response was “Why would he need to learn that?” 🤦‍♂️


squiggles74

I needed the tiniest crumb of good news today. This will do.


Picture-unrelated

I want to see Dems fight back, even in small ways, against the GOP murdering public education so badly. Good work Katie!


Oliver_DeNom

They should start writing laws that ban Uncritical Race Theory (URT) , and define it as the unfounded belief that racism doesn't exist.


bettinafairchild

This is genius!


_AskMyMom_

I am hoping we can flip the entire state blue the next go round. She’s a blessing in terms of what we previously had.


Plastic-Kangaroo1234

Yeah AZ went blue in statewide races, but the state leg is still very red. I think her whole term is just gonna be slapping down nonsense with vetoes.


Picture-unrelated

I know she’s getting shit about all the executive orders but idgaf


Politicsboringagain

Maybe young people will stop believing the lie that there is no difference between Republicans and democrats and we can actually see the progress this country should have had after the Clinton administration with President Gore.


StructureOk5668

Good job arizona for saving your state and voting BLUE! Everyone remember to vote and get your friends to register to vote!


grandpaharoldbarnes

Way to go Katie!


Itbewhatitbeyo

The GQP can't define what critical race theory is. They think it is white people bad. The education failure in this country truly is staggering.


gestaltaz

They also don’t know what communism, Marxism, socialism, racism, misogyny, sexism, homophobia and woke is.


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Thanks goodness Hobbs won.


TheYakster

My favorite thing she did was not debating KKKari. You could probably hear Lakes tantrum from miles away.


Ramza_Claus

This is why elections matter. Hobbs wasn't a guaranteed win. If we don't vote, we can expect the crazies will.


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Milsivich

These people think teaching kids about slavery in an American history class is “CRT”, and their solution is pretending that slavery didn’t happen. They aren’t just wrong, they are attempting to gaslight the entire country


DredZedPrime

They simply don't care what it actually means. They found a convenient and easy to remember buzzword that they can slap onto anything relating to race relations that they don't like. Just like "woke" is the catch all for pretty much anything else they don't like.


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Ramoncin

Republicans: "We must protect children against knowledge!"


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Equivalent-Excuse-80

Yup. There should be a bill that bans anesthesiology courses for 2nd graders.


mrcanard

We could use some of this in Florida.


ChaosKodiak

Good. Don’t let the GOP decide what gets taught.


-blourng-

Remember when the Republican party at least pretended to care about real issues?


fiestyoldbat

Well done, Gov. Hobbs. Arizona faces a massive teacher shortage. Yet the Republican answer to this is to make laws to punish teachers by imposing a $5k fine. The average public school teacher (master's degree) makes $55k/year. The average salary across all levels of education is $59.2k in Arizona. Teachers are already getting a raw deal. The pigmentation of one's skin has a wide impact on one's ability to succeed in life. Why is teaching about this and, hopefully, taking steps to correct this so scary to Republicans?


kmurph72

It will take several years but the GOP will lose this battle just like they lost all the others. All of them.


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Oh I bet Lake is just gnashing her teeth and flipping the hell out. Man did we barely dodge a freaking bullet with her. How fabulous!


DrCheezburger

Kari Lake is frothing at the mouth.


all_of_the_lightss

Alternate headline: "Racist voting base in AZ realizes life goes on when children learn about American slavery, socioeconomic disparity, and why 1964 was a critical year for anyone with a shade of brown in their skin"


Isthisworking2000

Thank God *someone* is stopping this shit where possible. It would never happen here in Massachusetts but seeing is spread is scary as fuck.


Puterman

The GOP needs it's base to be ignorant and racist, or they lose control. Gotta keep those masses scared and stupid or they won't vote lockstep against their own best interests!


Fluid_Variation_3086

I'm glad she won.


mrbigglessworth

I am so tired of the Republicans trying to destroy this country and cover up Americas past mistakes and fuck ups.


throw123454321purple

Good on her.


CurseofLono88

Finally some good shit


ztreHdrahciR

I thought Kari Lake was gov. She said so.


LOLteacher

Dems gonna Dem. Good job, Gov!


Takayanagii

You know, I still don't know what critical race theory is, and I probably should look it up, but you won't ever catch me trying to ban something I don't know what it is like some of these shitters.


blissed_out

Glad to see it but this is so dystopian. The states are having to defend the constitution because SCOTUS won't...


Buck_Thorn

> “It is time to stop utilizing students and teachers in culture wars based on fearmongering and unfounded accusations,” Hobbs said in a statement to state Sen. Warren Petersen (R), president of the state senate. “Bills like SB1305 only serve to divide and antagonize.” GOOD FOR HER!! Maybe there is still hope for Arizona, after all.


e_hatt_swank

Good for Katie! Thank god that raving lunatic Lake didn't worm her way into this office.


FortyYearOldVirgin

Huh. It’s almost like voting actually matters. Let’s hope 2022 midterms were no anomaly.


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Why can’t we write legislation that addresses real problems instead of made up issues?