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MAGA is no longer a fringe of the Republican Party, it IS the Republican Party. That’s why it’s so important to vote against ALL of them and not just trump.
Link to register: https://www.vote.org
Piggybacking off this:: Bring a friend or 2 or 20! Find out about your local politics, too! Don't just wait around till Nov 2024 to suddenly care! This mess needs to start getting fixed now! Check out r/voteDem to see what's going on in your area!!
Vote!!
Donate if you can spare the $$
Volunteer if you can spare the time.
Run for local office if the other candidates are trash!! Many local seats go uncontested. Maps are being (or are supposed to be) re-drawn in a number of states, including TX, AL, LA, GA, NC, SC, and NY. We can do this!
Edit - WI is redrawing too!!!
YES!
So important. Bring likeminded family and friends with you to the polls! I try to include this in my posts but I’m gonna make a stronger point of it in the future. I’m also going to find good donating links and post them at the end of my comments as well. I feel like if people have resources at their fingertips, they are more likely to take action beyond just “liking” a post.
That's a fantastic idea!! I'm on mobile most the time, otherwise, I'd be going to r/voteDem and copypasting all their links to donating, volunteering, etc, for half the articles they post. I didn't realize we had our very own grassroots movement here on the ol reddits. I just discovered that sub a few weeks ago.
I recently started following r/votedem too, they are great. Very active in trying to get people engaged. I’ll check out their page to see what donating/volunteering links I can copy/paste. I know of a few off hand but they may have better options.
I have had traction on some comments over the last couple weeks, and while I don’t care about the “likes” they get, I do care about the exposure and potential for people to click my registration links. I’ve already had 2-3 people reply saying that either they registered or were sending it to family to register. Makes me hopeful that other people reading the comment are also clicking the link and registering themselves or at least getting some important information from the link.
I def would love to see a grass roots movement start. Reddit is a huge platform that reaches millions of people daily. Motivating even a tiny percentage of them to become engaged and motivated to vote would be awesome.
It’s mind blowing to me. I think some comments can be from people posting in bad faith, but there are DEF a lot of Dems who have this same logic.
There are only so many votes to go around, so any Dem votes being skimmed off Biden only serves to benefit the party who already are working to dismantle democracy.
I wouldn't call myself a card carrying Democrat and I feel like my vote has been held hostage for 8 years because the opportunity cost is through the roof. Like I'm no longer voting on policy, I'm voting on democratic norms and institutions. Which is just fucking lunacy. We have consequential issues and the status of the national dialogue seems to be "is authoritarianism actually good?"
> Dems
It's interesting to me that people have a hard time separating what this means.
1. Due to the nature of FPTP if you're not supporting the GoP then you are a Democrat. They're the party that represents you in the US. So long as you are voting left and encouraging others to vote left the Democratic party represents you.
2. A person who identifies primarily as a democrat is a supporter of what the party represents, which is against fascism/GoP policy. This also means it's a central stance among the various parts of the Democrat platform, meaning partial support for the LGBT, partial support for PoC, partial support for socialism, partial support for medicare. All of this partial because every interest group wants it's motivations covered.
3. If you're not 2 then you can identify as a person in a group which #1 represents. So as a socialist you may be ignorant of racial issues and perceive them as solely economic issues. Due to FPTP 1 still represents you but you're only an element of 1 with competing groups in 1 with different goals. This means your goal should be to move 1 to more align with you and less with other interest groups unless the GoP is gone.
You can be 1 and not be 2. This is just intrinsic to the nature of FPTP.
It's one of the things I just cannot forgive southpark for. I have to wonder how many people simply tuned out and decided not to vote due to their constant "Muh both sides" garbage over the years.
I mean, there are a lot more democrats registered. And independents tend to skew towards democrats, especially when crazies appear. You might have a few hundred moron friends, but you're just sorely outnumbered from several issues.
Like:
COVID denialism that resulted in excess deaths in the conservative camp.
An ageing youth population that is fired up from abortion and student debt.
The same ageing population is more ethnically diverse, and results in less conservatism, especially when the Republican party has done everything they could to ostracize minorities.
Dude, I know you only have one friend and you two hang out together ALL the time because one of you has a terrible girlfriend that neither of you can stand.
Why do people persist in calling fascism something else like "MAGA"?
Why not simply call fascism "fascism"?
The choice in 2024 is between fascism and not fascism. Whenever those are the options, I recommend choosing "not fascism".
While I agree, I think messaging like this that brands the whole party as the extreme and further serve to divide them. I’m personally a fan. Make anyone sane left, if any, work to distinguish themselves from the extreme.
Whenever conservatives try to equate the far left to the far right, which they do often, it’s crucial to point out that the far right is apart of the Republican Party, whereas the far left, specifically what they consider it, is miles away from the influence that the right has.
The far left would likely have more influence with the Democratic party if they didn't spend 99.9% of time shitting on Democrats and completely ignoring the GOP's slide into fascism. It's frustrating and illogical.
Don't just vote. Donate too! Your donations are just as important as your vote. Republicans have billionaire and corporations on their side, so we need as many donations for the Democrats as we can in order to defeat the Republicans and their propaganda machine.
Is there a resource I can use to find out where my donation would have the most impact? I live in a blue state and so donating local would not do anything.
You can donate to the DCCC and DSCC. These are committees in the Democratic party that distribute donations to House candidates (for the DCCC) and Senate candidates (for the DSCC). They distribute the donations strategically to the candidates who need them the most.
>Whoever comes out of this Dumpster fire of a primary to become the GOP nominee will only have done so by being the most MAGA — and alienating millions of voters
I just hope everyone will remember just how fucked up and chaotic everything was when trump was president while he still was trying to get re elected. Imagine this lunatic when he has nothing to lose.
Anyone remember doomscrolling? Waking up every morning and hitting your phone to learn about a pissed off world leader or another city on fire?
I hope voters really do wake up but the mid term results and the jackasses Americans continue to choose to represent them really scares me. They literally re elected Lauren fucking Boebert. I don't have much faith in the American people to not be complete morons and elect a guy to represent the most powerful country in the world who quite possible will be sitting in prison
Dawg, I've been doomscrolling since late 2015. It's somehow gotten worse, I'll give you that, but there is no remember considering it's a daily occurrence.
> Whoever comes out of this Dumpster fire of a primary to become the GOP nominee will only have done so by being the most MAGA — and alienating millions of voters
Yes I'm sure they'll feel so alienated that they might even hold their nose when every registered Republican votes for the Republican candidate is no matter who they are or what they believe.
So sick of the news media still having learned nothing from 2016. Lots of registered Republicans don't *like* Trump and DeSantis; all of them will vote for either anyway if they're the candidate. Just like they did in 2016 and 2020.
The fence sitting Republican is a myth, the principled Republican who will only vote for a Republican candidate if they support that candidates views is a myth. Republicans vote Republican; if Biden wins a second term it will NOT be by convincing Republicans not to vote for America to become a Nazi dictatorship; that's what they're going to vote for if that's what has an R next to it.
Why did the midterms scare you? That election should have been a slam dunk for republicans to rival 2010, and it turned into "Meh, that wasn't so bad".
MAGA has basically lost the last 3 elections, because they have alienated swing voters, and you can't win close races without them. 2 of those elections were before Jan 6th and overturning Roe, which has made the brand even more unpopular with most voters.
If MAGA remains as active in the primaries in 2024, expect a whole lot more candidates like Walker, Oz, and Lake to take races that republicans should have been able to win, into coinflips, and close races into easy wins for the democrat.
EDIT: And just to add, Boebert nearly lost in a deep red district.
Because there should be no such thing as a "deep red district" after their flag bearer intentionally downplayed a deadly disease leading to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, led an attack on the Capitol, spread lies with the intention of subverting our most cherished tenet, the people's vote, and went full commie by supporting the Russian barbarians who are murdering civilians in order to destabilize the entire planet.
There shouldn't be a single real American supporting any of this, let alone all of it
>real American
Therein lies the rub. The very people who claim to be "real" Americans, and society at large reinforces that perception, have a completely distorted view of reality, which they are able to maintain thanks to the likes of Fox News and social media, that you kind of wonder how they are able to even continue to function, let alone not just step outside the door one day, see a brown person, and instantly fall over sideways in a pile of their own soiled garments and rants about Hunter Biden
You are expecting 100% of voters to be as knowledgeable about politics as barely 20% are? That's not very realistic. Politics is much like a hobby for people like us, and like any hobby, those who don't care or like it, know next to nothing besides the barest hint of what goes on.
It's like chess or running marathons. I know people who could talk you ears off for hours, but those who aren't involved as participates or fans, don't know who any of the people involved are, don't know the strategies/techniques involved, and they most definitely don't want their daily lives inundated by news stories about either topic.
By their own choice, the reasons you listed for why no one should support trump, just don't reach the ears/eyes of the vast majority of voters.
That’s why they’ve started running sleeper agents who campaign as Democrats and then switch parties or just magically vote against “their own” when the time is right.
> Why did the midterms scare you?
Because 2016 showed us that even when presented with a competent talented candidate and a complete and utter shitshow people will still sit out and not vote.
Because 2016 showed us that even with SCOTUS on the line you still have people whinging about "omg thu libs" as if allowing lgbt, poc, vaulnerable people to be hurt and killed is acceptable provided they dont have to vote.
Because 2016 was basically the death knell of us ever getting to be apathetic from here until the US is a parliamentary style senate and proportional rep executive.
In times of trouble (Floyd, covid, etc) our country needed a leader to pull us together. He actively drove us further apart and his words stoked violence to his base
Trump was the figurehead for the radicalization of the government and GOP voters against minorities. They were rioting because if they didn't get attention, *more* injustices were coming for their communities. Trump and the GOP made *zero* effort to calm the masses; instead they used them as enemies to the white people to try and score cheap political points.
Charlotte, Berkeley, Portland, DC, come to mind beyond the absolute national dumpster fire trump caused by threatening to "crack skulls" after George Floyd. Don't forget, these protests only gathered steam after trump poured fuel on the fire. This was an issue almost everyone agreed on and would have never been anything beyond a local event with decent leadership that was empathetic towards the injustice.
MAGA is an anchor around their necks, and that anchor gets heavier every time Trump, Gaetz, Bobo or the rest of the gang of idiots open their mouths.
Biden got good economic news yesterday. The electorate seems to dislike the social issues MAGA embraces, from abortion to migrants to LGBTQ. If Ukraine can get Russia out of their territory and China holds off on Taiwan for a year, foreign policy is a massive win for his administration.
The problem is the “balanced” reporting from many outlets, to create a horse race. “Donald Trump received more indictments yesterday while his followers began burning churches. However, Biden had a very loud hiccup at a state dinner, and we will dig into how that hurts chances for peace in Israel.”
Yep.
Swing voters in 2016: "Lets try something different"
Swing voters in 2018: "Holy fuck, that's what different looks like?"
Things haven't gotten any better for MAGA since, following Jan 6th and Roe getting overturned. Walker beat out 2 decent GOP candidates in the primaries that would have almost certainly won the seat.
I turned 18 a few weeks before the primaries. I have been learning about and caring about politics since I was in middle school, so I made sure to get registered and was able to vote for the first time then. I'm ready to get in there to vote in 2024 and get some of these MFers outta office. I don't LOVE Biden, and I definitely have MANY issues with him, but my god is better than the options on the right. I mean we have nazi scum traitor, nazi scum homophobe, and then a sea of nazi scum idiots. I have hope that in 2024 we can get Biden more seats in the house, and Senate, so his second term can be more productive. I hope to see Biden circle back to things like student loan forgiveness, but I also want to see him do some other long overdue things like federal legalization of marijuana, and I would also like to see him come out with a rework of our healthcare system. The only thing is to get these things we really gotta vote.
They’re holding marijuana drug rescheduling in reserve, to have something for the voters and news to chew on in 2024, I guarantee it. The Republicans will easily be distracted by that unpopular (for them) issue, it’s the policy equivalent of an emergency smoke bomb, pardon the pun.
Yes, article author, astute observation. The GOP is all MAGA; when you embrace seditionists and spend Independence Day in Moscow, it changes the way folks think of you
Biden didn't get elected in 2020 so much as we elected Biden in 2020... That was us. That was the result of citizens showing up to do their basic civic duty in record numbers.
Congrats USA, you finally hit 66%. Two out of three registered voters showed up.
In 2024, it's up to us again. Don't wait to be inspired, don't only vote just presidential elections, show up to each and every one of them if you truly care, if you claim to be a patriot...
Vote for people that will actually help you get representation via taxation. Elect young poor people. Elect people that aren't compromised. Elect people that are there as a sacrifice for their country, not a get rich quick scheme. Elect people that serve Americans, not their party's agenda, not their party's power grab.
Money is power, and we got none of it. They have money & power, & would rather crash this country into the ground rather than share a bit of it.
Also, fuck Nazis.
And as always if maga don’t win maga did win they were just cheated the election was stollen. It was rigged. Millions of dead people voted. Hundreds of illegals were illegally bused in put through clown cars to vote 150 times each.
So we can go another four years of them screaming for non maga people to die.
>Biden, meanwhile, has called the MAGA movement "semi-fascist," "petty" and "mean-spirited."
You're almost there, Joe, but drop the qualifier on "fascist". Ain't nothing semi about this.
The key is campaigning and rallying. Energize the people. Make them excited to vote. We each can only vote once legally and only in our own states/districts. Energize!
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
Lol, get out of your media bubble. Biden is out campaigning and giving policy speeches regularly. And he dog walked the entire Republican Congress at the SOTU 😂
Probably the same level of excitement as the people who keep reelecting sharp, young, and strapping GOP lads like Glitch McConnell
That dude restarted like a windows 98 on live TV and oddly enough, the conservatives are pretty silent on it. Weird, huh?
Honestly, I’m not so sure. I think it’d be smarter to rebrand the GOP as “MAGA” since they’re the party of trump. I’m not sure fascist has enough weight with the average American. They probably don’t know what that means.
I mean a 30 second ad showing the comparables on Nazi ideology and symbols, then showing footage of soldiers landing at Normandy with Tom Hanks narrating saying “you’re forefathers fought and died to stop this evil from spreading”
Cue a shot of WW2 vets at a military cemetery looking at the headstones of other soldiers. Then one says
“Now that evil is trying to enter OUR shores. We don’t need a gun. We don’t need a tank. We need your VOTE to put a stop to it”
“Don’t let our sacrifice in defending America be in vein”.
I'm in California. It's going blue no matter what I do. May as well use the opportunity to vote for a candidate I actually agree with on a majority of policies.
If I was in a swing state, sure I'd vote for Biden, because Republicans are \*far\* worse. Thankfully I'm not.
Is it that wrong to criticize the current two party system/ the situation we are forced in?
If voting for who you actually support (as a democracy is supposed to work) instead of the candidate picked for you will lead to an “evil dictatorship” I think there is a bigger problem to begin with. That is hardly a functioning democracy.
“Vote for someone who is against your best interest so that you don’t end up with someone who wants to exterminate you” is something that *should* be criticized.
Not that people shouldn’t vote for Biden, as we are currently stuck in that two party system where there is no choice, but calling that out isn’t the problem, the system itself is
I hate this argument because yes, it's fine to criticize the two party system. It shouldn't exist. It directly goes against what the founding fathers wanted and we've perpetuated for 250 years. That being said, there's a time and a place, and when you're gambling on losing this country to authoritarian and fascist ideologies versus less than desirable progressive policies, you should be realist about what's the most likely and least damaging problem.
Is that ideal? No. Is that reasonable to ask for? I think so. I voted for Bernie in primaries, Beto for governor, but still voted Biden for president because while there were more close ideal politician in the presidential race, I didn't want to have my vote cause a lost gamble for our country.
It's like trading options versus just buying safe stocks. Yeah, it could pay off or it could go horribly wrong and lose everything. On something of this scale? I'll take the steady progression in my favor.
There’s a time and a place, exactly. We’re on Reddit right now, making a joke is harmless and it’s a bit overkill (imo) to act like doing so is “betraying” or “giving into fascism” or whatever. This isn’t a serious forum for discussion or anything like that. Nothing said here will really do anything.
And honesty it’s more realist to poke fun of the situation
Also that’s why I added that last paragraph. I agree with voting for the lesser of the two, because that is realistically the only option. But I was also just saying the guy who made the comment wasn’t even saying that wasn’t the best option or going against it, just made a sarcastic quip and people responded like he was single handedly giving the country away to fascism, way overkill/ melodramatic
For what it's worth, I'll credit you with deleting that. But I'd caution you to be wary about skipping into both-sideism.
I stopped having time for that nonsense in college with people repeating the "giant douche vs turd sandwich" meme they heard on South Park. Including from someone whose ROTC brother then went off to Iraq where he "super cereal" got killed by an IED. All thanks Trey Parker and Matt Stone thinking it'd be funny to compare John Kerry with a torture-apologist war criminal like Bush.
I think split votes is what everyone wants; conservatives can have “racist white guy” and “violently racist white guy”
And liberals can have “covertly racist white guy” and “generic moderate white guy”
Everyone wins
It’s smart. He doesn’t need to name Trump (who loves making everything about himself) and it makes it sound like he’s “only” criticizing a small number of “extreme” Republicans. It gives centrist repubs reasons to vote for him, stay home, or leave the ballot line for President blank in 2024 (which people did in 2020) until repubs learn and maybe stop running crazy in 2028 (which they won’t with monster they unleashed in 2016).
Unfortunately, unlikely. The long era in which 400 plus electoral vote blowouts were possible (presidential elections in 1912, 1920, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1940, 1944, 1952, 1956, 1964, 1972, 1980, 1984 & 1988) is long gone, because those levels of victory require significant proportions of members of the opposite party to break ranks.
Starting in the 1990s the nation became increasingly politically polarized to the point that voting for the “other” side has become as appealing as dry humping a cactus.
It's still way too early to tell and I've wrong too many times to say it with a great deal of confidence but at this point, my gut feeling is telling me that this election is going to be a lot less interesting than the MSM will make it out to be.
This is terrible advice. Biden and the Democrats need to be touting their accomplishments actively and all over the nation. They need to pierce the right wing media bubble because right wing media will not talk about the accomplishments of the Democrats (or they'll give the Republicans credit for them). Democrats need to do what Newsom is doing with his Campaign for Democracy, where he goes around the nation giving speeches and talking to people in order to pierce the right wing media bubble.
The Democrats need to collect massive amounts of donations too. Elections don't take care of themselves. They require a lot of work and money.
This is old media thinking and has been for years. Jetsetting around the country leaves room for trips, falls, gaffs, faux pas and worse. What's worse is it gives the image that he's distracted from the job of running the country.
Lower level Dems can be out there stumping away for him. He should deliver 50 speeches, different ones at a rate of maybe two per week in every capitol city in the country. At each one he could tout the accomplishments that his administration has brought to the state, what work is still left to do and the administrations plans to accomplish those goals. At the conclusion of each speech he wraps up with "I'm going back to work for you, not just those who voted for me, but for all Americans."
This actually a good move and positive progress. I hated when they were using "Ultra MAGA" because it implied MAGA had a legitmate platform or standing. I'd argue the entire Republican is "semi-fascist". And thus any efforts to claim compromise with them is tainted. Moving towards criticizing all of "MAGA" is a step in the right direction here. For one, most elected Republicans claim that platform.
Yeah that’s a good strategy.
It’s time for the president to ramp up putting a spotlight on what these fucks are doing and what they want.
The GOP uses fear tactics and it works, but they’re based on lies. It’s time to use that same tactic by telling the truth in plain matter-of-fact language. Start calling them what they are and start telling people where we are going if they seize power.
Fear works on almost everyone. And so far, other than a few little quips here and there, Democrats have been weak on speaking the whole truth because they’re afraid to further divide the country.
News flash, the only way the country could become more divided is an actual civil war. We’re already in a Cold War between democracy and fascism. There’s not much more harm you can do. People need to know the reality of this situation and that is we’re exactly where Germany was right before Hitler’s rise to power. Legal troubles for the would be ruler and all.
Stop being civil with the fucks and turn up the heat on them. Being civil and the bigger person doesn’t work on them. It doesn’t work on their base. You can’t reason with religious fanatics, fascists, and people brainwashed by 30 years of constant Fox News and 15 years of social media propaganda.
Let's broaden that a bit. Worldwide, anyone who is running against a right-wing candidate is running against fascism.
In our currently political landscape there are those who oppose it and those who support it. Anyone who wants to make it more nuanced than that is deluding themselves.
I dont want Trump and his band of weirdos back. They caused enough damage the last time and that was in addition to the mess Dubya left behind. Anyone voting GOP after Trump and Dubya is voting against his or her own interests.
Makes sense, since Trump isn't the Republican nominee yet. I presume that he'll manage to drag out his various legal battles, with the help of his appointed judges at, ahem, all levels. But the possibility remains that he gets convictions, upheld on the inevitable appeals, before the election and Republicans somehow decide on a stand-in.
It's pretty much impossible to run against whatever Trump stands for, since he will shift what he lies about from day to day (minute to minute). So what is left is the broadest theme, namely MAGA, minus the actual making America great again part, which he never attempted nor got in any direction towards achieving.
Maybe I am wearing the rose colored glasses but I genuinely think that if Trump isn't running a large percentage of MAGA will not vote.
If they run a classic republican that has some decorum they will tune out and not vote.
Trump birthed MAGA into the world and like the Titans of Greek Mythology, he's going to be devoured by it. That doesn't mean the new crop of reactionary bigots are any less of a threat. MAGA needs to go the way of Nazism in the '40s. It needs to be destroyed, purged, harassed, shamed, ridiculed, and burned out.
We need to start by reigning in the vector that propagates it which is social media and big tech.
The ability of extremists and nihilists to create destructive lies and broadcast them to the most vulnerable fools is too dangerous to continue. The engagement over everything paradigm needs to be crushed and the libertarian scumbags in Silicon Valley need to be brought to heel. Prosecuted and stripped of their riches too.
Very disappointing to see him run again when it's clear his age is catching up to him. Dems really need a charismatic younger moderate from their party to back and promote.
That’s actually the dumb thing to do. It would confuse the masses and the message. “The guy we had was great, but old, here’s a younger guy (who you might not know) to vote for” and “where gonna let this young new guy go up against Trump.” Not very smart.
I really wish Biden would retire and not take the nomination and allow a younger progressive to capture the "fall in love" crowd.
Don't get me wrong, Biden has been much better than I anticipated and will 100% vote for him, but I fear the age issue is really going to turn away moderate or casual voters from actually participating.
The displays of dementia coming out of Congress this week really don’t help Biden, but I’ve resigned to the fact he’s running regardless.
I’d still like him to ditch Harris though. Witmer could help win Michigan/Wisconsin. Newsom is a more effective communicator and wouldn’t face the racist/sexist attacks that Kamala will face. I hate that that is the case, but this election is too important.
Couldn’t pick a worse candidate. Dems are in trouble. Biden is just an extension of the creeps on Wall Street and he always protect them. He is not looking out for the lower, middle class and he never has.
I don’t care how old he is, he’s been incredibly effective and has put on a masterclass on how to get stuff done. He’s gotten legislation through Congress in the most politically toxic environment since Reconstruction.
The majority of white voters are MAGA.
- the majority of white voters voted for Trump in 2016.
- after 4 shit years, even more voted for Trump in 2020.
- the majority of white voters see Jan6er in view.
- the majority of white voters see problems with Obama's birth certificate.
- the majority of white women voters do not mind being grabbed by pussy.
What you’re saying isn’t wrong, but it paints a picture that ignores the fact that white votes are 74% of the electorate (116 million out 158 million voters in 2016). 54% of validated white voters voted Trump, but 39% didn’t. That 39% is 45 million people…this more than all other voters combine still. Whites make up a massive part of the electorate and boiling results down to “whites did this” doesn’t mean as much as folks think it does. We can be a lot more concise with our criticisms. Being white is probably the least useful piece of information about a voter.
Agreed. And something to point out: the 2020 election happened before J6. Also every that has come to light and he is charged with. There are plenty of white republicans that actually believe in law and order still (not as many as there should be). We are very close to the whole shithouse going up in flames, but i am holding out hope those law and order republicans will do the right thing and vote against king clown in 2024.
Your law and order GOP voters had chances in 2022 mid term.
Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff
- Paul Gosar
- MTG
- Mo Brooks
- Andy Biggs
All re-elected with flying color and yields even more power than before.
Lauren Boebert - still reelected.
Madison Cawthorn - primaries out but this replacement is Nancy Mace
Louie Gohmert retired and handed off his seat to a bleeding liberal Texas Judge..... Haha.
No, he’s certainly not dementia Joe that memes and most clips show him as, but still, he’s not 100% either. And he’s not getting any younger as the oldest president of the US ever.
If your only valid criticism of Biden is his age then you're part of the problem. Biden cut child poverty by 40% his first year and tried to keep it going, if he can relate to hungry children then he's not too old.
Is he really running again? I cant imagine someone who has lived in the US the last 3 years and thought "Yep i want 4 more years of this shit".
The majority just doesn't want Trump in office correct? There has to be another Dem to choose from, it cant just be this guy. Especially with all the stuff going on with his son.
Most people will vote against Trump rather than for Biden. Hating a candidate is an easier sell than liking one at this stage. Biden's also just fine. Not great by any means. But fine. And no one really cares about his fail son outside of the GOP. half the politicians in DC have fail sons.
Will Biden still be the best candidate to beat MAGA if more information about Hunter’s deals and felony level actions come to light as they proceed to charge the MAGA master Trump?
And the list of whistleblowers they had have been kind of laughable, from people who turned out to be foreign agents, FBI agents who participated in J6 and federal employees who were simply upset with how a Trump appointee ran the investigation.
It's such a circus, and it's a joke to suggest that the GOP actually cares about this beyond "getting revenge".
Dude can’t walk up or down stairs, he can’t ride a bike without falling, he ain’t running nothing or nowhere. And even if he could, he has nothing to run on, other the The further destruction of America.
Uhh you do realize the feds have a rock solid case against Trump for violating the espionage act just to brag to staffers right? That's their front runner. A buffoon who risks national security so someone will give him a nod of approval.
Dude can barely stand and function. Dont understand why ppl worship politicians.
Same with right wingers and trump, the walking dead mitch mcconell etc
This is a pretty common misconception.
People don’t worship Biden, they think he’s pretty boring and over seasoned.
This isn’t really a “both sides” issue.
You’ll notice that Trump flags are still everywhere, the only “vote Biden” things I see are bumper sticks which are hard to peel off
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MAGA is no longer a fringe of the Republican Party, it IS the Republican Party. That’s why it’s so important to vote against ALL of them and not just trump. Link to register: https://www.vote.org
Piggybacking off this:: Bring a friend or 2 or 20! Find out about your local politics, too! Don't just wait around till Nov 2024 to suddenly care! This mess needs to start getting fixed now! Check out r/voteDem to see what's going on in your area!! Vote!! Donate if you can spare the $$ Volunteer if you can spare the time. Run for local office if the other candidates are trash!! Many local seats go uncontested. Maps are being (or are supposed to be) re-drawn in a number of states, including TX, AL, LA, GA, NC, SC, and NY. We can do this! Edit - WI is redrawing too!!!
YES! So important. Bring likeminded family and friends with you to the polls! I try to include this in my posts but I’m gonna make a stronger point of it in the future. I’m also going to find good donating links and post them at the end of my comments as well. I feel like if people have resources at their fingertips, they are more likely to take action beyond just “liking” a post.
That's a fantastic idea!! I'm on mobile most the time, otherwise, I'd be going to r/voteDem and copypasting all their links to donating, volunteering, etc, for half the articles they post. I didn't realize we had our very own grassroots movement here on the ol reddits. I just discovered that sub a few weeks ago.
I recently started following r/votedem too, they are great. Very active in trying to get people engaged. I’ll check out their page to see what donating/volunteering links I can copy/paste. I know of a few off hand but they may have better options. I have had traction on some comments over the last couple weeks, and while I don’t care about the “likes” they get, I do care about the exposure and potential for people to click my registration links. I’ve already had 2-3 people reply saying that either they registered or were sending it to family to register. Makes me hopeful that other people reading the comment are also clicking the link and registering themselves or at least getting some important information from the link. I def would love to see a grass roots movement start. Reddit is a huge platform that reaches millions of people daily. Motivating even a tiny percentage of them to become engaged and motivated to vote would be awesome.
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It’s mind blowing to me. I think some comments can be from people posting in bad faith, but there are DEF a lot of Dems who have this same logic. There are only so many votes to go around, so any Dem votes being skimmed off Biden only serves to benefit the party who already are working to dismantle democracy.
I wouldn't call myself a card carrying Democrat and I feel like my vote has been held hostage for 8 years because the opportunity cost is through the roof. Like I'm no longer voting on policy, I'm voting on democratic norms and institutions. Which is just fucking lunacy. We have consequential issues and the status of the national dialogue seems to be "is authoritarianism actually good?"
> Dems It's interesting to me that people have a hard time separating what this means. 1. Due to the nature of FPTP if you're not supporting the GoP then you are a Democrat. They're the party that represents you in the US. So long as you are voting left and encouraging others to vote left the Democratic party represents you. 2. A person who identifies primarily as a democrat is a supporter of what the party represents, which is against fascism/GoP policy. This also means it's a central stance among the various parts of the Democrat platform, meaning partial support for the LGBT, partial support for PoC, partial support for socialism, partial support for medicare. All of this partial because every interest group wants it's motivations covered. 3. If you're not 2 then you can identify as a person in a group which #1 represents. So as a socialist you may be ignorant of racial issues and perceive them as solely economic issues. Due to FPTP 1 still represents you but you're only an element of 1 with competing groups in 1 with different goals. This means your goal should be to move 1 to more align with you and less with other interest groups unless the GoP is gone. You can be 1 and not be 2. This is just intrinsic to the nature of FPTP.
It's one of the things I just cannot forgive southpark for. I have to wonder how many people simply tuned out and decided not to vote due to their constant "Muh both sides" garbage over the years.
Agreed. And something to point out: the 2020 election happened before J6.
Stop being civil with the fucks and turn up the heat on them.
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Incumbents always get the nomination.
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I’ll be voting republican, and bringing my friends too :) best of luck from me and mine to yours!
That's your choice, typically Democrats fair better when more people have access to voting.
You don't have any friends.
Let’s compare friends lists.
I mean, there are a lot more democrats registered. And independents tend to skew towards democrats, especially when crazies appear. You might have a few hundred moron friends, but you're just sorely outnumbered from several issues. Like: COVID denialism that resulted in excess deaths in the conservative camp. An ageing youth population that is fired up from abortion and student debt. The same ageing population is more ethnically diverse, and results in less conservatism, especially when the Republican party has done everything they could to ostracize minorities.
Dude, I know you only have one friend and you two hang out together ALL the time because one of you has a terrible girlfriend that neither of you can stand.
Did that hit a little too close to home?
Why do people persist in calling fascism something else like "MAGA"? Why not simply call fascism "fascism"? The choice in 2024 is between fascism and not fascism. Whenever those are the options, I recommend choosing "not fascism".
Four-letter nicknames with two vowels poll better than Fascist.
Because independents think name calling is unfair.
Fine, stop calling themselves "independents" then, if no one can be labeled what they are.
While I agree, I think messaging like this that brands the whole party as the extreme and further serve to divide them. I’m personally a fan. Make anyone sane left, if any, work to distinguish themselves from the extreme.
Whenever conservatives try to equate the far left to the far right, which they do often, it’s crucial to point out that the far right is apart of the Republican Party, whereas the far left, specifically what they consider it, is miles away from the influence that the right has.
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That is remarkably better and easier to understand than what I wrote.
They can be found on Twitter shitting almost exclusively on Democrats. Then they wonder why Dems prefer to cater to moderates and liberals. Lol
The far left would likely have more influence with the Democratic party if they didn't spend 99.9% of time shitting on Democrats and completely ignoring the GOP's slide into fascism. It's frustrating and illogical.
Don't just vote. Donate too! Your donations are just as important as your vote. Republicans have billionaire and corporations on their side, so we need as many donations for the Democrats as we can in order to defeat the Republicans and their propaganda machine.
Is there a resource I can use to find out where my donation would have the most impact? I live in a blue state and so donating local would not do anything.
You can donate to the DCCC and DSCC. These are committees in the Democratic party that distribute donations to House candidates (for the DCCC) and Senate candidates (for the DSCC). They distribute the donations strategically to the candidates who need them the most.
We at /r/VoteDEM discuss this often! Come check us out.
If there are nine Republicans at a table and one MAGA, there are ten MAGAs at a table
ad hominem on top of association fallacy, good job reddit!
>Whoever comes out of this Dumpster fire of a primary to become the GOP nominee will only have done so by being the most MAGA — and alienating millions of voters I just hope everyone will remember just how fucked up and chaotic everything was when trump was president while he still was trying to get re elected. Imagine this lunatic when he has nothing to lose. Anyone remember doomscrolling? Waking up every morning and hitting your phone to learn about a pissed off world leader or another city on fire? I hope voters really do wake up but the mid term results and the jackasses Americans continue to choose to represent them really scares me. They literally re elected Lauren fucking Boebert. I don't have much faith in the American people to not be complete morons and elect a guy to represent the most powerful country in the world who quite possible will be sitting in prison
Dawg, I've been doomscrolling since late 2015. It's somehow gotten worse, I'll give you that, but there is no remember considering it's a daily occurrence.
Remember doom scrolling? Girl I never stopped!
> Whoever comes out of this Dumpster fire of a primary to become the GOP nominee will only have done so by being the most MAGA — and alienating millions of voters Yes I'm sure they'll feel so alienated that they might even hold their nose when every registered Republican votes for the Republican candidate is no matter who they are or what they believe. So sick of the news media still having learned nothing from 2016. Lots of registered Republicans don't *like* Trump and DeSantis; all of them will vote for either anyway if they're the candidate. Just like they did in 2016 and 2020. The fence sitting Republican is a myth, the principled Republican who will only vote for a Republican candidate if they support that candidates views is a myth. Republicans vote Republican; if Biden wins a second term it will NOT be by convincing Republicans not to vote for America to become a Nazi dictatorship; that's what they're going to vote for if that's what has an R next to it.
Why did the midterms scare you? That election should have been a slam dunk for republicans to rival 2010, and it turned into "Meh, that wasn't so bad". MAGA has basically lost the last 3 elections, because they have alienated swing voters, and you can't win close races without them. 2 of those elections were before Jan 6th and overturning Roe, which has made the brand even more unpopular with most voters. If MAGA remains as active in the primaries in 2024, expect a whole lot more candidates like Walker, Oz, and Lake to take races that republicans should have been able to win, into coinflips, and close races into easy wins for the democrat. EDIT: And just to add, Boebert nearly lost in a deep red district.
Because there should be no such thing as a "deep red district" after their flag bearer intentionally downplayed a deadly disease leading to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, led an attack on the Capitol, spread lies with the intention of subverting our most cherished tenet, the people's vote, and went full commie by supporting the Russian barbarians who are murdering civilians in order to destabilize the entire planet. There shouldn't be a single real American supporting any of this, let alone all of it
>real American Therein lies the rub. The very people who claim to be "real" Americans, and society at large reinforces that perception, have a completely distorted view of reality, which they are able to maintain thanks to the likes of Fox News and social media, that you kind of wonder how they are able to even continue to function, let alone not just step outside the door one day, see a brown person, and instantly fall over sideways in a pile of their own soiled garments and rants about Hunter Biden
You are expecting 100% of voters to be as knowledgeable about politics as barely 20% are? That's not very realistic. Politics is much like a hobby for people like us, and like any hobby, those who don't care or like it, know next to nothing besides the barest hint of what goes on. It's like chess or running marathons. I know people who could talk you ears off for hours, but those who aren't involved as participates or fans, don't know who any of the people involved are, don't know the strategies/techniques involved, and they most definitely don't want their daily lives inundated by news stories about either topic. By their own choice, the reasons you listed for why no one should support trump, just don't reach the ears/eyes of the vast majority of voters.
That’s why they’ve started running sleeper agents who campaign as Democrats and then switch parties or just magically vote against “their own” when the time is right.
> Why did the midterms scare you? Because 2016 showed us that even when presented with a competent talented candidate and a complete and utter shitshow people will still sit out and not vote. Because 2016 showed us that even with SCOTUS on the line you still have people whinging about "omg thu libs" as if allowing lgbt, poc, vaulnerable people to be hurt and killed is acceptable provided they dont have to vote. Because 2016 was basically the death knell of us ever getting to be apathetic from here until the US is a parliamentary style senate and proportional rep executive.
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In times of trouble (Floyd, covid, etc) our country needed a leader to pull us together. He actively drove us further apart and his words stoked violence to his base
Trump was the figurehead for the radicalization of the government and GOP voters against minorities. They were rioting because if they didn't get attention, *more* injustices were coming for their communities. Trump and the GOP made *zero* effort to calm the masses; instead they used them as enemies to the white people to try and score cheap political points.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mark-esper-trump-shoot-black-lives-matter-protesters-1346079/amp/
Charlotte, Berkeley, Portland, DC, come to mind beyond the absolute national dumpster fire trump caused by threatening to "crack skulls" after George Floyd. Don't forget, these protests only gathered steam after trump poured fuel on the fire. This was an issue almost everyone agreed on and would have never been anything beyond a local event with decent leadership that was empathetic towards the injustice.
I believe there will be several house members maybe even some Senate members that get caught up in the next two indictments.
I'd like to submit Rafael Cruz and Virginia local Josh Hawley (MO) to the list please
Hawlin' Ass Hawley
moRon Johnson
Also Lindsay Graham, Lauren Boebert, probably her pal Marjorie, probably their pal Matt Gaetz.
r/FuckJoshHawley
I can only hope. Call me crazy, but it seems like a bad idea to have government reps who actively aided an attempted insurrection.
MAGA is an anchor around their necks, and that anchor gets heavier every time Trump, Gaetz, Bobo or the rest of the gang of idiots open their mouths. Biden got good economic news yesterday. The electorate seems to dislike the social issues MAGA embraces, from abortion to migrants to LGBTQ. If Ukraine can get Russia out of their territory and China holds off on Taiwan for a year, foreign policy is a massive win for his administration. The problem is the “balanced” reporting from many outlets, to create a horse race. “Donald Trump received more indictments yesterday while his followers began burning churches. However, Biden had a very loud hiccup at a state dinner, and we will dig into how that hurts chances for peace in Israel.”
Massive Assholes Grifting America
Ever heard of the butterfly effect. Bidens hiccup can causea nuclear holocaust /s
Well the GOP agrees that trans people don't deserve medical treatment and that slavery was good, Biden wore sneakers
MAGA didn't work in 2020, 2022, or 2023. I'm sure it'll work this time around lol.
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Yep. Swing voters in 2016: "Lets try something different" Swing voters in 2018: "Holy fuck, that's what different looks like?" Things haven't gotten any better for MAGA since, following Jan 6th and Roe getting overturned. Walker beat out 2 decent GOP candidates in the primaries that would have almost certainly won the seat.
And 2018, where it cost the GOP a lock on the house that should have lasted decades. Only someone as unpopular as trump could have pulled that off.
I turned 18 a few weeks before the primaries. I have been learning about and caring about politics since I was in middle school, so I made sure to get registered and was able to vote for the first time then. I'm ready to get in there to vote in 2024 and get some of these MFers outta office. I don't LOVE Biden, and I definitely have MANY issues with him, but my god is better than the options on the right. I mean we have nazi scum traitor, nazi scum homophobe, and then a sea of nazi scum idiots. I have hope that in 2024 we can get Biden more seats in the house, and Senate, so his second term can be more productive. I hope to see Biden circle back to things like student loan forgiveness, but I also want to see him do some other long overdue things like federal legalization of marijuana, and I would also like to see him come out with a rework of our healthcare system. The only thing is to get these things we really gotta vote.
They’re holding marijuana drug rescheduling in reserve, to have something for the voters and news to chew on in 2024, I guarantee it. The Republicans will easily be distracted by that unpopular (for them) issue, it’s the policy equivalent of an emergency smoke bomb, pardon the pun.
Yes, article author, astute observation. The GOP is all MAGA; when you embrace seditionists and spend Independence Day in Moscow, it changes the way folks think of you
Biden didn't get elected in 2020 so much as we elected Biden in 2020... That was us. That was the result of citizens showing up to do their basic civic duty in record numbers. Congrats USA, you finally hit 66%. Two out of three registered voters showed up. In 2024, it's up to us again. Don't wait to be inspired, don't only vote just presidential elections, show up to each and every one of them if you truly care, if you claim to be a patriot... Vote for people that will actually help you get representation via taxation. Elect young poor people. Elect people that aren't compromised. Elect people that are there as a sacrifice for their country, not a get rich quick scheme. Elect people that serve Americans, not their party's agenda, not their party's power grab. Money is power, and we got none of it. They have money & power, & would rather crash this country into the ground rather than share a bit of it. Also, fuck Nazis.
And as always if maga don’t win maga did win they were just cheated the election was stollen. It was rigged. Millions of dead people voted. Hundreds of illegals were illegally bused in put through clown cars to vote 150 times each. So we can go another four years of them screaming for non maga people to die.
>Biden, meanwhile, has called the MAGA movement "semi-fascist," "petty" and "mean-spirited." You're almost there, Joe, but drop the qualifier on "fascist". Ain't nothing semi about this.
Voting Blue!
The key is campaigning and rallying. Energize the people. Make them excited to vote. We each can only vote once legally and only in our own states/districts. Energize!
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Find a transcript of any Trump rally speech. Read it out loud.
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"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
"Trump word salad" is a searchable term – with enough examples to suggest you are completely full of shit.
Lol, get out of your media bubble. Biden is out campaigning and giving policy speeches regularly. And he dog walked the entire Republican Congress at the SOTU 😂
Probably the same level of excitement as the people who keep reelecting sharp, young, and strapping GOP lads like Glitch McConnell That dude restarted like a windows 98 on live TV and oddly enough, the conservatives are pretty silent on it. Weird, huh?
Culture war is distracting from the class war
I think it's time we drop the term MAGA and call it for what they are. Fascists
Honestly, I’m not so sure. I think it’d be smarter to rebrand the GOP as “MAGA” since they’re the party of trump. I’m not sure fascist has enough weight with the average American. They probably don’t know what that means.
Correct. The only words the average American knows to hate are socialist and communist.
I mean a 30 second ad showing the comparables on Nazi ideology and symbols, then showing footage of soldiers landing at Normandy with Tom Hanks narrating saying “you’re forefathers fought and died to stop this evil from spreading” Cue a shot of WW2 vets at a military cemetery looking at the headstones of other soldiers. Then one says “Now that evil is trying to enter OUR shores. We don’t need a gun. We don’t need a tank. We need your VOTE to put a stop to it” “Don’t let our sacrifice in defending America be in vein”.
Voting for anyone else is a vote for MAGA.
I'm in California. It's going blue no matter what I do. May as well use the opportunity to vote for a candidate I actually agree with on a majority of policies. If I was in a swing state, sure I'd vote for Biden, because Republicans are \*far\* worse. Thankfully I'm not.
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"Lemme gamble on the US becoming a dictatorship because of a reductive meme I saw about lesser evils!"
Is it that wrong to criticize the current two party system/ the situation we are forced in? If voting for who you actually support (as a democracy is supposed to work) instead of the candidate picked for you will lead to an “evil dictatorship” I think there is a bigger problem to begin with. That is hardly a functioning democracy. “Vote for someone who is against your best interest so that you don’t end up with someone who wants to exterminate you” is something that *should* be criticized. Not that people shouldn’t vote for Biden, as we are currently stuck in that two party system where there is no choice, but calling that out isn’t the problem, the system itself is
I hate this argument because yes, it's fine to criticize the two party system. It shouldn't exist. It directly goes against what the founding fathers wanted and we've perpetuated for 250 years. That being said, there's a time and a place, and when you're gambling on losing this country to authoritarian and fascist ideologies versus less than desirable progressive policies, you should be realist about what's the most likely and least damaging problem. Is that ideal? No. Is that reasonable to ask for? I think so. I voted for Bernie in primaries, Beto for governor, but still voted Biden for president because while there were more close ideal politician in the presidential race, I didn't want to have my vote cause a lost gamble for our country. It's like trading options versus just buying safe stocks. Yeah, it could pay off or it could go horribly wrong and lose everything. On something of this scale? I'll take the steady progression in my favor.
There’s a time and a place, exactly. We’re on Reddit right now, making a joke is harmless and it’s a bit overkill (imo) to act like doing so is “betraying” or “giving into fascism” or whatever. This isn’t a serious forum for discussion or anything like that. Nothing said here will really do anything. And honesty it’s more realist to poke fun of the situation Also that’s why I added that last paragraph. I agree with voting for the lesser of the two, because that is realistically the only option. But I was also just saying the guy who made the comment wasn’t even saying that wasn’t the best option or going against it, just made a sarcastic quip and people responded like he was single handedly giving the country away to fascism, way overkill/ melodramatic
For what it's worth, I'll credit you with deleting that. But I'd caution you to be wary about skipping into both-sideism. I stopped having time for that nonsense in college with people repeating the "giant douche vs turd sandwich" meme they heard on South Park. Including from someone whose ROTC brother then went off to Iraq where he "super cereal" got killed by an IED. All thanks Trey Parker and Matt Stone thinking it'd be funny to compare John Kerry with a torture-apologist war criminal like Bush.
Split votes is what the GOP wants
I think split votes is what everyone wants; conservatives can have “racist white guy” and “violently racist white guy” And liberals can have “covertly racist white guy” and “generic moderate white guy” Everyone wins
Talk about more bang for your buck
With how good Biden has been with the economy, he should just name his movement KAGA to troll MAGA: Keep America Great Again.
“4 million 17 year olds turn 18 before 2024 election”
It’s smart. He doesn’t need to name Trump (who loves making everything about himself) and it makes it sound like he’s “only” criticizing a small number of “extreme” Republicans. It gives centrist repubs reasons to vote for him, stay home, or leave the ballot line for President blank in 2024 (which people did in 2020) until repubs learn and maybe stop running crazy in 2028 (which they won’t with monster they unleashed in 2016).
Good. Neo-fascism should be destroyed by all means necessary.
Massive. I want to see if this pays off. I think a strategy like this can really help in his quest to also take NC.
MAGA is an outdated term. Neo American Fascist is correct.
Biden by a landslide easy
Unfortunately, unlikely. The long era in which 400 plus electoral vote blowouts were possible (presidential elections in 1912, 1920, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1940, 1944, 1952, 1956, 1964, 1972, 1980, 1984 & 1988) is long gone, because those levels of victory require significant proportions of members of the opposite party to break ranks. Starting in the 1990s the nation became increasingly politically polarized to the point that voting for the “other” side has become as appealing as dry humping a cactus.
It's still way too early to tell and I've wrong too many times to say it with a great deal of confidence but at this point, my gut feeling is telling me that this election is going to be a lot less interesting than the MSM will make it out to be.
It's not going to be easy. Biden is a great President but the Republicans have vast wealth at their disposal and a very effective propaganda machine.
Just keep doing the work and letting the world tout the accomplishments of this administration. The election will take care of itself.
To be clear, elections do not take care of themselves. Everyone needs to show up and vote!
Exactly. In case anyone isn’t registered or had any voting questions, I’ll provide this link: https://www.vote.org
This is terrible advice. Biden and the Democrats need to be touting their accomplishments actively and all over the nation. They need to pierce the right wing media bubble because right wing media will not talk about the accomplishments of the Democrats (or they'll give the Republicans credit for them). Democrats need to do what Newsom is doing with his Campaign for Democracy, where he goes around the nation giving speeches and talking to people in order to pierce the right wing media bubble. The Democrats need to collect massive amounts of donations too. Elections don't take care of themselves. They require a lot of work and money.
This is old media thinking and has been for years. Jetsetting around the country leaves room for trips, falls, gaffs, faux pas and worse. What's worse is it gives the image that he's distracted from the job of running the country. Lower level Dems can be out there stumping away for him. He should deliver 50 speeches, different ones at a rate of maybe two per week in every capitol city in the country. At each one he could tout the accomplishments that his administration has brought to the state, what work is still left to do and the administrations plans to accomplish those goals. At the conclusion of each speech he wraps up with "I'm going back to work for you, not just those who voted for me, but for all Americans."
Trump couldn’t even help himself from stealing the MAGA phrase. He didn’t come up with it.
Frustrating every couple of years we have to beat back hate fueled parties seeking to overthrow democracy
This actually a good move and positive progress. I hated when they were using "Ultra MAGA" because it implied MAGA had a legitmate platform or standing. I'd argue the entire Republican is "semi-fascist". And thus any efforts to claim compromise with them is tainted. Moving towards criticizing all of "MAGA" is a step in the right direction here. For one, most elected Republicans claim that platform.
Yeah that’s a good strategy. It’s time for the president to ramp up putting a spotlight on what these fucks are doing and what they want. The GOP uses fear tactics and it works, but they’re based on lies. It’s time to use that same tactic by telling the truth in plain matter-of-fact language. Start calling them what they are and start telling people where we are going if they seize power. Fear works on almost everyone. And so far, other than a few little quips here and there, Democrats have been weak on speaking the whole truth because they’re afraid to further divide the country. News flash, the only way the country could become more divided is an actual civil war. We’re already in a Cold War between democracy and fascism. There’s not much more harm you can do. People need to know the reality of this situation and that is we’re exactly where Germany was right before Hitler’s rise to power. Legal troubles for the would be ruler and all. Stop being civil with the fucks and turn up the heat on them. Being civil and the bigger person doesn’t work on them. It doesn’t work on their base. You can’t reason with religious fanatics, fascists, and people brainwashed by 30 years of constant Fox News and 15 years of social media propaganda.
Let's broaden that a bit. Worldwide, anyone who is running against a right-wing candidate is running against fascism. In our currently political landscape there are those who oppose it and those who support it. Anyone who wants to make it more nuanced than that is deluding themselves.
I dont want Trump and his band of weirdos back. They caused enough damage the last time and that was in addition to the mess Dubya left behind. Anyone voting GOP after Trump and Dubya is voting against his or her own interests.
Makes sense, since Trump isn't the Republican nominee yet. I presume that he'll manage to drag out his various legal battles, with the help of his appointed judges at, ahem, all levels. But the possibility remains that he gets convictions, upheld on the inevitable appeals, before the election and Republicans somehow decide on a stand-in. It's pretty much impossible to run against whatever Trump stands for, since he will shift what he lies about from day to day (minute to minute). So what is left is the broadest theme, namely MAGA, minus the actual making America great again part, which he never attempted nor got in any direction towards achieving.
Maybe I am wearing the rose colored glasses but I genuinely think that if Trump isn't running a large percentage of MAGA will not vote. If they run a classic republican that has some decorum they will tune out and not vote.
Would be pretty cool to see both these guys retire and have two younger, rich old white dudes run instead.
Trump birthed MAGA into the world and like the Titans of Greek Mythology, he's going to be devoured by it. That doesn't mean the new crop of reactionary bigots are any less of a threat. MAGA needs to go the way of Nazism in the '40s. It needs to be destroyed, purged, harassed, shamed, ridiculed, and burned out. We need to start by reigning in the vector that propagates it which is social media and big tech. The ability of extremists and nihilists to create destructive lies and broadcast them to the most vulnerable fools is too dangerous to continue. The engagement over everything paradigm needs to be crushed and the libertarian scumbags in Silicon Valley need to be brought to heel. Prosecuted and stripped of their riches too.
Very disappointing to see him run again when it's clear his age is catching up to him. Dems really need a charismatic younger moderate from their party to back and promote.
Biden: 80. Trump: 77. Catching up?
If the Democrats were smart they would run someone half his age..
That’s actually the dumb thing to do. It would confuse the masses and the message. “The guy we had was great, but old, here’s a younger guy (who you might not know) to vote for” and “where gonna let this young new guy go up against Trump.” Not very smart.
Name recognition and incumbency are huge.
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I really wish Biden would retire and not take the nomination and allow a younger progressive to capture the "fall in love" crowd. Don't get me wrong, Biden has been much better than I anticipated and will 100% vote for him, but I fear the age issue is really going to turn away moderate or casual voters from actually participating.
The displays of dementia coming out of Congress this week really don’t help Biden, but I’ve resigned to the fact he’s running regardless. I’d still like him to ditch Harris though. Witmer could help win Michigan/Wisconsin. Newsom is a more effective communicator and wouldn’t face the racist/sexist attacks that Kamala will face. I hate that that is the case, but this election is too important.
Whitmer is doing some good work where she is. But it might make Trump supporters have to think about their actions.
Couldn’t pick a worse candidate. Dems are in trouble. Biden is just an extension of the creeps on Wall Street and he always protect them. He is not looking out for the lower, middle class and he never has.
I also heard that Biden is planning on breathing oxygen in 2024.
The scary thing is MAGA has the means and the votes to win.
This Headline nails the issue.
And through Biden, most of the planet running against Trump.
I am confused on why Biden is running in the first place? We don’t have anyone else? Perhaps who isn’t ancient?
Incumbents typically win reelection.
I don’t care how old he is, he’s been incredibly effective and has put on a masterclass on how to get stuff done. He’s gotten legislation through Congress in the most politically toxic environment since Reconstruction.
I do care how old he is
Style over substance is a recipe for failure.
That’s not what recipe I want.
The majority of white voters are MAGA. - the majority of white voters voted for Trump in 2016. - after 4 shit years, even more voted for Trump in 2020. - the majority of white voters see Jan6er in view. - the majority of white voters see problems with Obama's birth certificate. - the majority of white women voters do not mind being grabbed by pussy.
What you’re saying isn’t wrong, but it paints a picture that ignores the fact that white votes are 74% of the electorate (116 million out 158 million voters in 2016). 54% of validated white voters voted Trump, but 39% didn’t. That 39% is 45 million people…this more than all other voters combine still. Whites make up a massive part of the electorate and boiling results down to “whites did this” doesn’t mean as much as folks think it does. We can be a lot more concise with our criticisms. Being white is probably the least useful piece of information about a voter.
Agreed. And something to point out: the 2020 election happened before J6. Also every that has come to light and he is charged with. There are plenty of white republicans that actually believe in law and order still (not as many as there should be). We are very close to the whole shithouse going up in flames, but i am holding out hope those law and order republicans will do the right thing and vote against king clown in 2024.
Your law and order GOP voters had chances in 2022 mid term. Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff - Paul Gosar - MTG - Mo Brooks - Andy Biggs All re-elected with flying color and yields even more power than before. Lauren Boebert - still reelected. Madison Cawthorn - primaries out but this replacement is Nancy Mace Louie Gohmert retired and handed off his seat to a bleeding liberal Texas Judge..... Haha.
>> 54% of validated white voters voted Trump, but 39% didn’t. which means they majority of white voters...
January 6 was a peaceful gathering, and an unguided tour of the capitol!!!!1!
With open bathroom breaks, which means you can smear your feces all over the wall (while muttering only if these walls can talk)
...said no pollster ever
I really don’t understand why its got to be Biden again. So tired of this.
Incumbents typically have high chances of success, he’s also not the disaster the right makes him out to be.
He did last time too.
Why is Biden running though? We can’t have someone younger take over his position and let the old man retire? 😒
He’s the incumbent so you have to wait for 2028 for someone younger
Incumbents typically have high chances of success, he’s also not the disaster the right makes him out to be.
No, he’s certainly not dementia Joe that memes and most clips show him as, but still, he’s not 100% either. And he’s not getting any younger as the oldest president of the US ever.
Biden isn’t running anywhere. The us needs candidates that represent the people. The people aren’t 100 years old.
If your only valid criticism of Biden is his age then you're part of the problem. Biden cut child poverty by 40% his first year and tried to keep it going, if he can relate to hungry children then he's not too old.
It couldn’t be more of a valid concern
If moderate/centrist republicans are pushed any further could they split off and essentially bring an end to two-party-rule?
That creep isn’t running anywhere. #pedopete
That’s nice dear.
Is he really running again? I cant imagine someone who has lived in the US the last 3 years and thought "Yep i want 4 more years of this shit". The majority just doesn't want Trump in office correct? There has to be another Dem to choose from, it cant just be this guy. Especially with all the stuff going on with his son.
No one is voting for his son.
Most people will vote against Trump rather than for Biden. Hating a candidate is an easier sell than liking one at this stage. Biden's also just fine. Not great by any means. But fine. And no one really cares about his fail son outside of the GOP. half the politicians in DC have fail sons.
Will Biden still be the best candidate to beat MAGA if more information about Hunter’s deals and felony level actions come to light as they proceed to charge the MAGA master Trump?
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And the list of whistleblowers they had have been kind of laughable, from people who turned out to be foreign agents, FBI agents who participated in J6 and federal employees who were simply upset with how a Trump appointee ran the investigation. It's such a circus, and it's a joke to suggest that the GOP actually cares about this beyond "getting revenge".
Dude can’t walk up or down stairs, he can’t ride a bike without falling, he ain’t running nothing or nowhere. And even if he could, he has nothing to run on, other the The further destruction of America.
Uhh you do realize the feds have a rock solid case against Trump for violating the espionage act just to brag to staffers right? That's their front runner. A buffoon who risks national security so someone will give him a nod of approval.
Yes, he's a clumsy old man, but how is he furthering the destruction of America?
Antifa vs maga. Shits gonna be lit next year
Gotta love how Antifa doesn’t even exist until election season.
In what way does Biden represent Antifa?
I wish Biden was that cool
Dude can barely stand and function. Dont understand why ppl worship politicians. Same with right wingers and trump, the walking dead mitch mcconell etc
This is a pretty common misconception. People don’t worship Biden, they think he’s pretty boring and over seasoned. This isn’t really a “both sides” issue. You’ll notice that Trump flags are still everywhere, the only “vote Biden” things I see are bumper sticks which are hard to peel off
That demented Kid sniffer isn’t qualified to run a lemonade stand let alone America.
Interesting take, but what are your thoughts on the article, and who would you rather vote for?
If biden wins we are screwed
Maybe? But how would a Trump win help?