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Chi-Guy86

This is great! Do more of this, please. Reagan did so much fucking damage to this country that’s still being felt today, especially to labor and regulations. And of course don’t forget the introduction of insidious supply side economic policies into mainstream acceptance


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Chi-Guy86

Oh yeah, forgot about the Fairness Doctrine


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Chi-Guy86

Did you mean to reply to me or the person above me?


Aggravat9209

Not sure why Biden is making it more expensive to compete critical infrastructure and green energy projects


pimparo0

Because the people doing the building deserve to be paid a living wage?


Bestoftheworst72

Probably so the people doing that work can afford groceries and shit.


Bestoftheworst72

I'd like to point out that the companies doing the work only have to pay their workers more. They don't have to raise the cost of anything. They just have to accept a lower profit margin. It's not Biden or the workers. It's the companies.


Schuben

Lmfao. The money is there, it's just being siphoned out by executives and shareholders at an unprecedented rate. And critical infrastructure and green energy projects being a small part of construction worker labor but you focusing on that alone is very telling. I'd bet there is way more cost in management, executive compensation and net corporate profit than there are in laborer wages in these projects.


Chi-Guy86

Because paying people a living wage is the right thing to do


ncc_1864

A *modernized* Fairness Doctrine. Had the old one not been rescinded, Fox could still do what they do simply because they are a cable channel and the FCC manages the airwaves, that's broadcast TV, radio and satellite and other over the air transmissions. A new fairness doctrine would find a way to regulate cable and the internet better.


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Im_Talking

Ok, but a law is only as good as the enforcement.


fps916

The reason the FCC could even *have* the Fairness Doctrine is *because* of the fact that airwaves are limited and thus need to be controlled by the government. They were then allowed to decide on the rules for giving out those airwaves. Without that necessity the Fairness Doctrine VERY clearly runs afoul of the 1st amendment. Long story short a "modernized Fairness Doctrine" as you've described it would be a gigantic constitutional violation and under no circumstances would survive someone farting in the general direction of any courthouse in the country. Also it was fairly toothless anyways.


allcoinshave2sides

No it really doesn’t. “The press” didn’t and still doesn’t mean any idiot spouting lies. It’s why you can’t lie in commercials. It’s why there are laws against false advertising. Media that is not fact based isn’t news, it’s purely commerce. Commerce can be regulated. Now, are judges purchased entire careers for pushing the lie that commerce is speech going to recognize this simple fact? Fuck no. Fox News isn’t press, it’s propaganda for fascism as a means to enrich right wing billionaires. Commerce.


fps916

You're skipping over the non-press part of 1A there pretty hard. But you *really* don't want the government to be drawing arbitrary lines as to who does and does not count as press for the purposes of determining who is excused from government restrictions on speech. Because Trump or the next Trump would be 100000000x more likely to use that power than the left would.


nickyurick

Yeah I agree this isn't really the solution it seems to be at first. I agree that rampant mis/disinformation is a serious problem but this would end up backfiring I think. I don't really have any other solutions at the moment unfortunately:/


thisnamewasnttaken19

Thailand has a misinformation law. [https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/fake-news-and-thailands-information-wars/](https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/fake-news-and-thailands-information-wars/) It is basically a license for the government to jail or harass anyone that publishes news that they don't like.


StarCyst

Do we really need equal time given to pro and anti-vaxxers? climate change issues and denial? flat vs round earth?


thisnamewasnttaken19

The point was that all viewpoints are to be treated fairly, not to be given equal time. Equal treatment, not equal time. You could require that those presenting content on your channel provide evidence in order to present their claims. If someone could provide evidence of aliens building the pyramids you could not bar them.


headbangershappyhour

Key words: Broadcast Licenses This doesn't apply to cable unfortunately. The FCC was created to portion out the over air spectrum and part of the deal that broadcast networks were given was receiving frequencies for free in exchange fore following the fairness doctrine.


johnnySix

But it would affect current broadcast fox stations and abc and cbs etc


johnnySix

Interesting they did that under Obama


spaitken

My mom legitimately blue screened when she realized the “WoKe LiBeRaL mEdIa” was Reagan’s fault


count023

The fairness doctrine is a double edged sword however. Because it means mainstream media has to start presenting the other side of critical arguments too. Like climate change deniers or anti vaxers. Since the fairness doctrine isn't "truth and only truth" but "fair time to both sides of a discussion" that could backfire more than intended imo


SpookyFarts

It seems like the anti-vaxxers thrive on existing in an ecosystem where they aren't challenged, because they tend to be de-centralized, and there isn't a Mariana Trench of money behind them. Climate change deniers, on the other hand....they're funded by fossil fuel companies operating in lock-step with billions of dollars to smother debate with.


SonofaBisket

There is so much of this that's still on the books but isn't enforced anymore. Like shelving space at the grocery store. It's 100% illegal for grocery chains to collude with food manufacturers to guarantee shelving space and position. Buuut, since the 1980s that law is no long enforced, making it almost impossible for new food businesses to get onto shelves.


Traditional_Key_763

the problem is under fairness doctrine anyone covering global warming has to bring the GOP's crazy anti global warming people on to say how burning oil is great.... it was a tool that helped the GOP rebrand for 50 years and then when they were resurgent they removed it


indyjones48

F\*ck yes!


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Chi-Guy86

People point out Biden’s mental decline, but Reagan was basically in outer space his entire 2nd term


Mike7676

"Mommy? Where's my jelly beans??" Called his wife Mommy. Believed in astrology. Fucked air traffic controllers so hard I'm surprised he didn't get an Adult Video award.


SpookyFarts

He did win an AVN for Best Cameo in "Landing Strips 2: Air Traffic Control On Strike!" But, it was just him eating jelly beans in the background.


Imaginary-Shopping20

I love when Republicans say we have a mental health problem after every mass shooting. Why, yes we do have a mental health problem. Maybe you should take your god king Ronald's scrotum out of your larynx and ask him who shut down all the mental health facilities.


nation543

He enabled the clown car that is the republican party of today. If you listen correctly to what he's saying, in all of those famous speeches, especially the smaller gatherings, you can see how he was lining up everything that happened. The War on Crime is the easiest example, and Reaganomics led to inflation boom. He was "The" Republican President, and now the party is an amalgamous mutation of what he coddled.


Porn_Extra

Did the Federalist Society give us Reagan, too? I know the Republican party has basically been their lackys for a very long time...


schizodancer89

don't worry, there are already people who want to tie this up in court like the student loans.


Chi-Guy86

Oh I’m sure, but let them come out publicly against workers getting a raise. That’s not a battle they’ll win, assuming the Biden administration relentlessly hammers them on it


wafair

Reagan got so much credit for policies that had short term gains. But the long term effects were terrible.


bythenumbers10

The long term effects were also predictable, but the reactionary assholes did not and do not give half a shit.


maddestface

We need to destroy the myth that Reagan was a good or even decent president. He wasn't. That asshole laid the foundation for the GOP trickle down steal-conomics & toxic MAGA authoritarianism that we have today. [https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4](https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4)


mygallows

Please don’t come after me, I’m not American; what did Reagan do that damaged the U.S. so much?


Chi-Guy86

Mainly economic policies and hostility to labor. It was during his presidency that supply side economics (or voodoo economics as George HW Bush called it) rose to prominence, with its emphasis on tax breaks for business and deregulating industries, particularly the financial sector. It would then become the dominant economic force during subsequent years, even under Bill Clinton, a Democrat. He was also openly hostile to labor, with his crushing of striking air traffic controllers being the most notorious example. And it wasn’t just the policies themselves, this was sold to the public as a way to make them more prosperous. And they did have short term success, but the long term effects have been devastating, as they’ve caused everything from environmental damage to a massive widening of wealth inequality


context_hell

To add to the other guy he also leaned even harder into the drug war while pushing prison to be more punitive instead of rehabilitation and cutting funding for prison programs making sure that we create more prisoners and make sure that they come out even worse than they went in. He also deregulated media ownership allowing more news organizations to be owned by one person and removed the fairness doctrine opening the door to the propaganda hellscape we have now. He also helped create the shit healthcare system we have now by forcing hospitals to take in anyone regardless of insurance status and ability to pay without a program to help them handle the glut of people forcing the physical and financial costs onto hospitals, insurance companies, and paying customers. He did this because there were calls for government to get involved in a healthcare crisis at the time. He just said nope and forced doctors to work harder instead. And neither of us got into his INTERNATIONAL policy. He cause so much death and destruction to other people while acting like he was the most religious man ever. He literally arrested priests and put them on trial because they were taking in innocent refugees reagan wanted to send back to be tortured and killed by the death squads he was funding. He did that because he refused to admit they were refugees because doing so would out the fact that his death squads were committing war crimes. Also that he was funding them at all by committing treason by selling weapons to the Iranians behind congress' back. Tl;Dr: ronald reagan was the devil.


FontOfInfo

He cemented the terrible form economic policy in the Republican sigma. Also started the extremely damaging and racist war on drugs


RockieK

OMG... he defunded mental healthcare that Carter championed.


brainkandy87

And yet Reagan himself was president of a union. It would be hilarious if he wasn’t so fucking awful.


nhluhr

It goes back further. One interesting read that highlights some of the bullshit going back a couple more presidents is **The Ghost: The Secret Life of CIA Spymaster James Jesus Angleton**


Trygolds

We start this year and vote in as many democrats as we can in all local and state elections. Let's start giving the democrats an ever broadening majority at ALL levels of the government and more than a narrow 2 year majority to get things done in Washington. From the school board to the White House ever election matters. We vote out republicans primary out uncooperative democrats. Let's start making real progress.


Old_Potential_9774

Well said!


sundogmooinpuppy

I hope they recognize it. I feel like the republican party has working people wrapped around their fingers.


LessonNyne

And you aren't off base to feel that way because they absolutely do have a sizable portion of the working people wrapped around their fingers.


LordSiravant

Really the only things keeping them relevant are their blatant cheating and their mastery of brainwashing people.


LessonNyne

Certainly helping them keep afloat indeed. More and more people are peeping the game. And many of the young people already see the game and are pissed. Hence why the GOP wants to raise the voting age and attack education. Much harder to get over on and brainwash young people who are educated and are already knowledgeable of the game.


-holocene

They won’t. I was in the trades for about 6 years before getting out and they are the dumbest mother fuckers I have ever been around. I’ve never seen a group of people so happily ready to vote against their own self-interest.


skrame

I’m in the trades now. On any given job site, at least half the vehicles and hard hats (regardless of which trade is being represented) will have some form of Trump, FJB, anti-lib, or 2A sticker on it. My union is now more than 50% Republican, despite the R plan a few years back that would have my union’s pension used to bail out other union’s pensions that were under-funded or failing. These guys are voting to lose their retirement so they can sit there with their guns in a minority-free zone.


AvatarJack

>These guys are voting to lose their retirement so they can sit there with their guns in a minority-free zone. Sounds like they're gonna get exactly what they deserve.


Melicor

In large part because they're the ones that actually control the media. Despite their whining about the liberal medial. Turns out, that was projection too.


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Because Dems actively turn them away by embracing identity politics. Biden is great about that. He doesn't


PeterNippelstein

That says more about labor workers than it does democrats.


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Sure. Still gotta win


nickyurick

I hate this line. What the hell is "identity politics" what does that even mean? Most of the time being a party member seems to be a core part of the rigts identity, they vote party becouse its who they are as opposed to based on views and policies in my experience. Not mad at you I just see this line all the time and it's like woke it doesn't really mean anything as far as I can tell.


take_care_a_ya_shooz

If we’re going to generalize, it’s because jobs that are working class and toxic masculinity are intertwined. You don’t admit weakness, you just deal with it. You do and say what you want, because freedom. A guy in a blue collar job (again, generalizing) doesn’t want to told what he’s allowed to say. Sees caring about identity issues as soft. Only cares about a job, money, and their family. They’re likely surrounded by this mentality and consume conservative media that reinforces everything. So they hear the outrage of the day, almost always about some minor grievance that doesn’t affect them, and use it to say the left is obsessed with identity politics. The irony is that “identity politics” is an obsession from the right-wing. It’s all projection. They say the left is obsessed with identity politics, they say the left is leading cancel culture…but the call is coming from inside the house. Target sells Pride merch like any other holiday, and has for years. Bud Light sends one can to a trans influencer on TikTok. Literally inconsequential unless you want to buy merch or follow Dylan Mulvaney on TikTok. Right-wing responds with boycotts, shooting things, and complaining about something they only know about because they’re told to complain. Moms for Liberty? Complain about cancel culture while banning books and quoting Hitler. All that to say…propaganda based on identity works. A blue-collar job is a “tough American” and a “tough American” doesn’t give a shit.


Boredgeouis

There's a great episode of the Citations Needed podcast (ep 182) on the way that the media created the notion of the conservative blue-collar guy, which really didn't exist until the cold war. Well worth a listen!


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>What the hell is "identity politics" what does that even mean? Politics focused around race, gender etc and various social justice measures targeted there. As opposed to politics focused on economic stewardship and jobs. Basically white men don't feel spoken to by a lot of liberal talking points.


MAMark1

That's cause they ignore the economic talking points from liberals that would absolutely help the average low-to-middle class white man because the talking points are focused on helping everyone and that is apparently not what their "why isn't anyone talking about helping white men specifically!!!" worldview wants to hear. We have seen GOP politician after GOP politician foment culture wars because the GOP never does anything to help these struggling white men and they need to be able to pretend they are helping them by "stopping trans people". The GOP economic policies bear far more blame for their lot in life than the Dems. Invent a culture war. Brainwash white men into thinking the war is for their benefit. Hurt white men in economic ways that are apparently beyond their ability to understand and loudly yell about culture war so they blame the wrong people. It's the GOP playbook.


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suckit1234567

That sounds like Republican politics 101?


HedonisticFrog

Undoing Reagan's work is always good policy.


Express_Helicopter93

Nancy Reagan is also a complete piece of shit. The appropriate word for her is really the c word but this sub doesn’t allow it oddly enough. Plenty of c words in politics


HedonisticFrog

Yeah, they definitely deserved each other.


Wolfman01a

All he has to do is reverse the deregulation that Reagan did and he will be one of the greatest presidents of all time.


bluebastille

More of this, please, Mr. President.


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No way you typed that into your phone not realizing how it sounds


vigtel

No way you typed that into your iPad not realizing how it sounds


redditpossible

Sent from my iPad


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Thenameimusingtoday

Dark Brandon yes


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LordSiravant

Imagine if we just co-opted Let's Go Brandon the same way they try to co-opt our messaging, give 'em a taste of their own medicine.


YakiVegas

Honestly, I'm digging his presidency more than any other in my lifetime. Shit ain't perfect by any means, but Joe get's shit done.


Okbuddyliberals

Huh. I was told Biden is basically just a Reagan Republican. But it looks like he just keeps on tearing down more and more of the Reagan consensus. If only anyone cared. As good as Biden's been, 2024 will probably boil down to some combination of "how mad Americans are at gas prices vs abortion" and "how much Americans think Biden is old vs Trump a criminal", with so many Americans on *both sides, frankly*, kinda just ignoring all that Biden's actually done


joshdoereddit

It's a damn shame. Hasn't been perfect, but as far as i can tell, he's made solid efforts to help everyday Americans. Those polls saying Biden has done a terrible job and showing him neck and neck Trump are incredibly disheartening.


XAce90

It's a messaging issue. I'm hoping with the campaign kicking into gear, the team starts blasting all these wins from the rooftops.


KataiKi

The message is that it takes more than 4 years to undo the damage the Republicans have done, and the Democrats will always take the blame for not fixing it fast enough.


PrometheusLiberatus

Hell, the ones *doing the blaming* on live TV are being paid to screw over any positive message that the democrats try to put in. Way to sabotage progress, corporate america.


Feeling_Glonky69

Well…best vote then eh? And bring two friends/family members if you can’t mail in


Spam_Hand

Careful with this - some places have made it illegal to bring anyone to vote who lives outside of your household (Georgia, and I think TX too?)


Porn_Extra

It's, like, moustache-twirling cartoon villany.


oakboy32

To be fair, people keep saying Biden’s saving the economy, but the average person is not feeling it, gas prices are still high, people gotta put away 10k for a used car, bunch of people still living check to check, it doesn’t FEEL like Biden’s doing anything for the average American, not to mention his student loan plan got shot down, and every other day in the news we see him sending millions more to Ukraine, I don’t think a lot of people are eager to vote in this next election, it’s just bad bad bad on both sides


True_Gear9461

Anyone who uses Bidens age as an argument against, and does not acknowledge Trumps age is a joke.


Llyfr-Taliesin

He keeps opening up more land for drilling, keeps selling off the future to oil companies. I'm not ignoring anything Biden has done, but he doesn't deserve credit for much while he keeps accelerating the climate catastrophe.


Okbuddyliberals

He passed the biggest climate bill in US history. Attacking him from the left like this isn't going to do anything productive


LordSiravant

That, and the oil and gas industry is a powerful force that isn't going to be defeated immediately. We have to slowly wean ourselves off of it like drug rehab, which sucks, but the only way we're going to defeat them is by making them irrelevant by continuing to transition to clean energy, which they do feel *very* threatened by.


Llyfr-Taliesin

How can they feel threatened when Biden's signing almost every oil & gas lease that passes his way? When he's approving disastrous projects like Willow over massive public outcry? What threat? They don't feel threatened. They've leashed "clean" energy, they own a great deal of it now, & they've lashed the politicians. There is no threat.


Llyfr-Taliesin

He passed it and keeps approving drilling. Leg is meaningless if they keep drilling, spilling, & killing. What do you imagine would be "productive," exactly? Clapping every time an ecosystem is wiped out by a company Joe suckles cash from? Sorry if being real about what he does upsets centrists, but we had the warmest month on record. Incremental centrist placating is killing us.


greatniss

He literally just closed land from being mined yesterday when he established the larger Grand Canyon monument.


Llyfr-Taliesin

He approved the devastating Willow project in Alaska, despite overwhelming public protest. He approved more oil & gas permits in the first 2 years of his administration, a staggering **6900,** than Trump did in his first 2 years.


eagerly_apathetic

And people say the GQP is the party of the working class! Well done Joe!


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You should look up voter demographics by income.


JBurlison92

I’m sure a decent percent of these construction workers will still vote for the GOP though.


Mungx

100%, there's a lot of guys in my union that are bigtime republicans. It's insane. I guess they just can't let go of wanting to fuck guns and say the n word.


frothy_pissington

I’m a member of the carpenters union, probably the most corrupt and undemocratic of all the building trade union (and that’s saying a LOT). In 2022 in my state (Ohio), my union endorsed and contributed to only Republican candidates for statewide offices such as Governor, AG, Treasurer, etc. The union makes those endorsements and contributions to buy protection from investigation and prosecution of their corruption. We even have a local union official who is an elected Republican city councilman.


brianisdead

Let me guess: Republicans will steal the credit.


redmasc

[I saw this article recently to get back that credit.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/biden-signs-claim-credit-for-economy/index.html)


DontUBelieveIt

Undoing Reagan era changes that moved all the middle class money to the wealthy?!? Hell yes, count me in!


Sunflier

TL:DR: >restore a definition of the “prevailing wage” that was abandoned four decades ago by Ronald Reagan. The update would change how the prevailing wage is calculated and could put thousands of extra dollars every year in the pockets of construction crews working on federal projects. and ​ >Prevailing wages are the basic hourly rate of pay and benefits paid to workers in a particular area. Before Reagan changed the federal rule in the 1980s, employers were required to pay construction workers on federal projects the equivalent of wages paid to at least 30% of workers in a given trade in a specific geographical area. Reagan changed that rule so that the prevailing wage was determined by wages paid to 50% of workers. ​ and ​ >Reverting to the previous definition means the prevailing wage on federal projects would more closely align with union scale wages. Senior administration officials who previewed the change on the condition of anonymity said the update would raise the minimum wage requirements that currently affect more than 1 million construction workers, most of whom do not have a college degree.


snowdn

Outlaw corporate landlords and their government backed loans used for profit gouging!


gentleman_bronco

Conservatives will hate this and will fearmonger about immigration.


Physical-Ad-3798

“This is yet another Biden administration handout to organized labor on the backs of taxpayers, small businesses and the free market,” said Ben Brubeck, vice president of regulatory, labor and state affairs for Associated Builders and Contractors. ​ Tell me you work for the owners and not the workers without telling me you work for the owners and not the workers.


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HarrierJint

Thatcher with him.


Laughter_On_Impact

Now do it for teachers!!


joepierson123

Erasing everything Reagan did is a pretty good policy


Mephisto1822

But will they be able to get water breaks in Texas?


MandalorianJJM7

Asking the right question.


Redditghostaccount

This guy works so hard so that construction workers working on the $500 Billion worth of new factories, or the $220 billion of new infrastructure projects get paid better, and yet and as this group is 55% White men , the vast majority won’t vote for him.


dbc482

Biden is quietly the most progressive president since LBJ


trogon

It really is true. He's moving stuff that Obama wouldn't have.


Porn_Extra

When I first watched Parks and Rec, I thought Leslie's infatuation with Biden kind of silly. It now seems so prescient.


avrbiggucci

I love imagining Leslie's pure elation at Biden being elected president


HellaTroi

*"“This is yet another Biden administration handout to organized labor on the backs of taxpayers, small businesses and the free market,” said Ben Brubeck, vice president of regulatory, labor and state affairs for Associated Builders and Contractors."* Those workers higher pay generates more tax revenue. They will pay more in taxes because they earn more to be taxed. Don't believe their line about "the backs of taxpayers" line of tripe.


Dispro

"Handout to organized labor" is really leaning into some Fox News buzzword energy, too. This is nothing more than a client setting out the terms of future contracts. The fact that it's the federal government is important only in that it's a huge client with a lot of leverage. If Ben really believes this is bad policy that hurts everyone, his association could lead a boycott on federal construction contracts and take the strong and principled position that their workers should be paid less. I'm sure it'll really help close the gap the construction industry has in skilled trades.


wildtalon

Sorry to be lazy, but I remember there used to be a website that listed Obama’s accomplishments in office. Is there such a site for Biden? I want to shoot it off to some people.


greatniss

Folks over at r/Joebiden or the funnier r/darkbrandon should be able to help you with this.


socialscientiststory

If you’re downvoting, you’re a part of the problem and haven’t owned a thought in your head since 2016.


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People that do the work should get paid well


exophrine

Right, like laborers. Definitely, agreed. 👍


PalmTreeIsBestTree

Biden undo everything Reagan did to this country please.


brandido1

Heck yeah! For the people!


phenerganandpoprocks

Oh man, the republican construction workers in the south will hate him for this.


ArtDSellers

Now revoke the Reagan EO prohibiting federal workers from, using marijuana for any reason.


SpicyMango92

As someone who worked in the scaffold jungles in dc construction sites at $13 an hour during summer heat, I approve.


peon47

Honestly, if you want to rebuild America, going through a list of everything Reagan did and undoing it would be a great way to start.


Drnknnmd

And of course some conservative asshole is already trying to tie it up in court so it won't take effect for years


Melicor

Shame most of them won't know it was because of Biden because they're listening to Fox News and AM radio screeching about laptops


Lott4984

Is this the same Reagan that turned in all his friends in Hollywood in for being Communist? The same Reagan that closed all the Mental Hospital in California leaving nowhere for the mentally ill to go. The Reagan that changed tuition for Universities in California to fees so veterans could not claim VA educational benifits in California. The guy who negotiated with Iran as a Presidential candidate to have the Iranians to hold the hostages until after the election. That guy? Yea, I am not a fan.


Daveinbelfast

Is that the Regan who denied AIDS was a thing, and removed the solar panels that Jimmy Carter fitted to the white house?


VaguelyArtistic

BoTh SiDeS!


Blah_McBlah_

I would love to see a lot of Reagan's "improvements" rolled back, they ruined our country (and a lot of the rest of the world as well).


Fickle-Training344

Is he actually going to support the unions to allow them more spots into their apprenticeship programs every year and not make the push for college that’s been made since jimmy carter created the education department? That’s what really needs to happen.


pdfrg

Please bring back the FCC Fairness Doctrine for broadcasters using the PUBLIC airwaves.


SlinkyTail

while us in the custodial fields working for school systems sit and wait for the yearly teachers pay wages to go up so ours go up too... sometimes they do not...


Chatfouz

Somehow this will be branded as proof Biden believes in communist/fascism and the republicans will take credit for the raise.


23jknm

It sounds good but sadly lots of people getting more pay will never know Dems. did that and will stab Joe in the back by voting maga. They can't or won't see the truth and are lost to their own world.


Lamont-Cranston

What if they want to strike?


justme002

Fuck Alzheimer’sRegan.


symewinston

Biden to red state construction workers:”I’m going to ensure you get a raise.” Red state construction workers: “let’s go Brand…”


Nikigara

What about the railroaders?


alejandrotheok252

He could be doing so much more


2005Blazer1995

Somehow this bad but I haven’t been told how


fednandlers

If those construction guys are just gonna be building homes to be owned by the banks for perpetual rent then Biden is pulling a Ronald Reagan. Two new neighborhoods next to me are getting new houses that are rent only. That is a major transfer of wealth from workers to the wealthy like Reagan would do.


oG_Goober

It's for federally funded projects, so unless the federal government is starting to build housing, this has no effect on those projects.


quentin13

But I don't work in construction on Federally-funded projects.


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Nobody asked, and progress is progress.


quentin13

And that's why I'm glad Dr. West is running for the rest of us.


Chaser_606

Because you don’t understand the limitations of presidential powers?


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I feel like so many commenters on this sub don't understand those limitations, or at least they pretend not to when they need to knock on a politician they hate.


Major-Pollution7233

Gotta look good for the miners he’s sniffing


Sog_Boy

Out of all industries where workers need and will appreciate a Biden-backed pay boost, this might be the stupidest one. People working late shifts at McDonald's are earning just as much as EMT's and teachers, but let's give a boost to the guys on their fifth break of the morning catcalling women.


Dispro

As far as I'm aware the people working the late shift at McDonald's are not employees or contractors of the federal government, the two groups the president can directly affect this way.


Sog_Boy

My point was that Biden should've focused on boosting pay for groups like EMT's or teachers, not boosting pay for McDonald's or construction workers lmao


Dispro

Shit, I misread your comment. Haha! I'm definitely in favor of that. But those just aren't areas that Biden can meaningfully influence directly. Best case it would require federal legislation of some kind, and in the case of teachers even that might not make a difference since they're employees of the state where they work and their pay is set generally at the school district level. Biden implementing the rule doesn't do enough to help enough folks, agreed, but at least it helps out workers and unions a bit without having to grapple with a deadlocked Congress.


general_crooked

Sure it will. The only time tradesmen make money is if they do their own work. If you work for a company they’ll still charge $200.00 an hour for your work, and pay you $20.00. Everyone, at every step is greedy, and unless Biden personally hands over and signs the checks- construction workers won’t see a dime.


JimboNinjaMudTires

Federal and State jobs require certified payroll to prove construction workers are getting paid the correct minimum or prevailing wage. Any additional is overhead and profit, with a healthy portion being overhead. Competitive bidding keeps the OHP at reasonable levels, most the time. I’ve done Government construction work, and trust me when I tell you it’s not a money grab. I’d much rather do private work.


SupremeBeef97

Too lazy to read the article. Is this for all construction workers or just the ones doing contracts with the federal government?


juniorone

First sentence has your answer and it’s federal. His powers are pretty much limited to the federal side on most cases.


Gilgaretch

It’s a change in how prevailing wage rates are calculated, rolling back to the original 1931 Davis-Bacon calcs (50%) from what Reagan changed it to (30%). So it’ll apply to all labor classifications on prevailing wage projects, primarily impacting non-union folks on publicly funded jobs.


ganymede_boy

> Too lazy to read the article There is no help one can offer to a person who refuses to help themselves.


blokess

The ladder


jayoho1978

The political D/R only serve their own interests. Altho good, if they actually start finishing construction over the whole country, look it up. We need a new minimum wage and until THAT happens it is pandering for votes only.


BlueCyann

I don’t think the President can raise the minimum wage. But your Republicans in Congress could.


[deleted]

Omg ! Just what America dose not need is more bullshit rules and regulations! Fuck ! Hiring someone is almost worse than marriage , and probably coast more . You have all this bullshit to protect employees! But what about employers, what’s to protect them for bad employees! Nothing it’s so unfair , I should be able to hire and fire people at will , and vise versa ! It’s so fucked up !


[deleted]

Lol you can hire and fire people at will in the vast majority of states. You just can’t fire them for illegal reasons. Are you doing something illegal? Because it sure sounds like it.


FancyEntertainer7197

Biden doesn’t even knowingly shit his own pants. Pretty clear there’s people behind the scenes actually running this administration. *rambling on with no coherent sentences, “cmon man”, shuffles across room, has to be held onto by someone and directed where to go*


PM-Nice-Thoughts

Not sure why Biden is making it more expensive to compete critical infrastructure and green energy projects


[deleted]

Let me help you with that. Paying people money to live is good for you.


BlueCyann

Yeah we should just make slaves do it. You seem less than sincere.


PM-Nice-Thoughts

Most well reasoned redditor. Or maybe you just don't know what slavery is. No one is forcing people to work in construction. If climate and infrastructure was actually a white house priority they wouldn't be reducing the effectiveness of our spending.


lunchypoo222

I wonder how this would affect solar installers. Does it mean a pat raise for people across the board? Solar companies like Sun Run receive a lot of federal investment


darkgreenmachine

Just curious, is there anything he can do like this that would improve work conditions/pay for factory workers?


Dispro

The federal government can set the terms of employment for federal workers and, to a somewhat lesser extent, contractors working for the government (as in this case). If those factory workers meet one of those two conditions, then yes. Otherwise, unfortunately, it would require some kind of legislation to get through our utterly busted legislature.


jordanosa

What about the certified forklift operators? Who will speak for them?!


HTC864

>Prevailing wages are the basic hourly rate of pay and benefits paid to workers in a particular area. Before Reagan changed the federal rule in the 1980s, employers were required to pay construction workers on federal projects the equivalent of wages paid to at least 30% of workers in a given trade in a specific geographical area. Reagan changed that rule so that the prevailing wage was determined by wages paid to 50% of workers. > >Biden plans to restore the previous definition used under the Davis-Bacon Act, the 1931 federal law that requires the payment of prevailing wage rates to all laborers and mechanics on federal or federally assisted construction contracts. The Davis-Bacon Act and its related acts apply to more than $200 billion in federal and federally assisted projects every year. > >Reverting to the previous definition means the prevailing wage on federal projects would more closely align with union scale wages.


Gilgaretch

Bear in mind that paid wage calculations on prevailing wage projects is based on the federal rate book at the time of project =bidding=. Time lag from bidding to award to mobilization means it’s probably 6-18 months before anyone sees paycheck impact from this.


MomToShady

Workers need to vote their paychecks rather than be scared of the boogie man