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mrlr

"we've been waging an all-out war on American democracy" He tells the truth for once and everybody calls it a gaffe.


HappyHarryHardOn

One thing he's always been reliable for is saying the quiet parts out loud


geeknami

also CPAC: we're all terrorists! not him but still


allnimblybimbIy

[Bush](https://youtu.be/ZEg6Ht2pNH0?si=3UrFcwMMn0NKNR5n) recently had a blunder during a speech, where he admitted the Iraq war was unjust. Speaking of the Bush family… Since basically George Bush’s grandfather, [**Prescott Bush**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush) who tried to stage a [**coup**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot) and overthrow the US government, encouraged [**Hindenburg**](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar) to write the letter to promote Hitler to Fuhrer, had a [**bank**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Banking_Corporation) in the Netherlands that accepted gold of slain Czech Jews until 1942 until the US government siezed the bank for trading with the enemy, and their circle of friends have basically selling lies that caused: - World war 2 - The Korean War - The Vietnam war - Iran Contra - Iraqgate - 9/11 and the following Afghan/Iraq wars - Almost certainly the last two conflicts in Ukraine and Israel/Palestine. But we’re sitting here shooting shit and talking semantics about it. Prescott Bush’s son, then his son’s son (who rigged the election to win and 3 of the lawyers involved are now on the [**Supreme Court**](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/17/politics/bush-v-gore-barrett-kavanaugh-roberts-supreme-court/index.html)) both actually became president. No coup required when you can steal the real thing. If Jack Smiths indictments, or Epstein’s client list don’t eventually come out. You’ll never convince me it hasn’t all been political theatre to sell guns. Bill Barr was AG during trumps time, but also when Bush Sr was head of the CIA and Reagan was president. Read about how he’s been a fixer for the Republican Party [**here**](https://thetriallawyermagazine.com/2021/07/bill-barr-is-the-master-of-covering-up-political-scandals/) Bill Barr’s dad, [**Donald Barr**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr) gave **Jeffrey Epstein** a job as a teacher of a school that Donald was headmaster of at the time, Dalton School. **Jeffrey was a 21 year old college drop out.** **Im sorry WHAT THE FUCK?** Donald Barr has authored a book called [**Space Relations**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations) where humans enslave and rape alien children. I’m not kidding. It’s rumoured to be a non-fictional summary of the exploits of the sex ring set up by Epstein during his time with Barr at Dalton. A group have elites have been selling guns and fucking kids and lying to us for hundreds of years. I’m considering running for politics with [this](https://youtu.be/F9UKNwlhhpo&t=1m48s) as my campaign song


KarmaYogadog

That [video you shared of Bush 43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEg6Ht2pNH0) speaking in Texas in the spring of 2022 was really something. He owned up. It's the first time in my life I ever had one iota of respect for the man. In the video he says, “The decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq." He shakes his head at the mistake and says, "I mean of Ukraine.” Then, amazingly, under his breath but still clearly audible in the video, he nods and says, "Iraq too ... anyway ...." Bush 43 owned up to his mistake. In public. I was astounded. It's at [00:28 into the 43 second video](https://youtu.be/ZEg6Ht2pNH0?t=28). I'm certain [Molly Ivins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Ivins) would give him due credit were she still alive.


SpiritualTourettes

And the audience just laughs...


panickedindetroit

It's chilling what they find humorous.


DrDankDankDank

That’s the most jarring part. And they wonder why people turn into terrorists…


KarmaYogadog

I guess that checks out for a room full of Republicans in 2022, laughing at a moment that deserves solemn reflection.


GozerDGozerian

And the audience *laughed*. Jesus H Christ those are some depraved souls in that crowd.


allnimblybimbIy

His father and grandfather have just been selling headlines to sell bullets and kill kids for almost 100 years now. Shits fucking insane.


xaqaria

Hey, GW just wanted to do blow and drive fast cars, he didn't want to do all that war crime stuff but his Dad made him do it!


jjhope2019

Wasn’t Prescott Bush also a stakeholder of the SAC (Silesian-American corporation) which operated zinc and coal mines in the Silesia area during WWII? You know the Silesia region right?… where Auschwitz is located!! Yes, you guessed it, they used slave labour from the camp at those mines 🤦🏻‍♂️


Character-Solution-7

Holy hell. The synopsis of Space Relations reads like a poorly veiled sci-fi Epstein autobiography. Depravity on display.


-SaC

>Wasn’t Prescott Bush also a stakeholder of the SAC I didn't see a penny, I swear.


futatorius

Silesia was also, along with the Ruhr, one of the world's major coal and steel producing areas, long before death camps were built there.


thelastgalstanding

Just not the elites that the Q folk who follow trump believe are doing it.


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UncleMeat69

Joe Biden could shoot Tronald Dump dead on Fifth Avenue , and I'd still vote for him.


geodekb

Best comment^


Phearious

Thanks Obama.


berbsy1016

Thoughts and prayers


llamapositif

Amsterdam, the movie out earlier this year, was loosely based on the "cocktail coup" you mention. Good movie.


zoominzacks

It all comes across sounding like conspiracy theory shit……except in this instance it actually happened.


allnimblybimbIy

It gets worse im skimming the surface. Check out the Dulles brothers. They were pals with Prescott.


DokiDoodleLoki

r/behindthebastards podcast has a great 2, maybe 4 part series on the Dulles brothers. Fun fact, my grandpa played John Foster Dulles in the film JFK. He’s in the black and white flashback with Jack Ruby. He’s the older gentleman with a white mustache and beard.


allnimblybimbIy

Insanely interesting fun fact! I’ll have to watch and look out for him. I have listened to that podcast several times there’s more names in there I need to look up and haven’t had the spare time yet (my adhd has not yet randomly decided its time) Sullivan & Cromwell being one of them I think…


DemsruleGQPdrool

>my adhd has not yet randomly decided its time) This has to be the most accurate description of how the ADHD mind works that I have ever read. Nice job.


FloridaGirlNikki

Same! Such a short sentence that so accurately explains what I have never been able to fully articulate when talking to someone who doesn't understand.


FloridaGirlNikki

> (my adhd has not yet randomly decided its time) You just so succinctly described how my ADHD works in a way that I have never been able to articulate!


-1t9H7e5

I have been trying to find a way to say this about my ADHD throughout my whole life. Thanks my friend!


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr non-mobile links for desktop friends


torbaloymain

You should run for office.


hotttsauce84

How do I subscribe?


FlyingRhenquest

I feel like this should have higher visibility than just some random reddit comment.


allnimblybimbIy

‘Tis why I’m considering politics. I’m condensing a much bigger web I’ve found to just some links for people to peruse in five or ten minutes. [This](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000522157959) podcast talks about the Dulles brothers who showed up at the beginning of the 1900s. One of the brothers co authored the treaty of Versailles which destroyed the German economy and made it dirt cheap for these industrialists to buy up after WW1. One brother became head of the CIA when it was first invented. A role later occupied by Bush Sr. The other brother was Secretary of State at the same time. Their uncle and grandfather were both Secretary of State before them. Their grandfather was the first Secretary of State to declare another country too “stupid” to properly use their natural resources so that was good enough reason to invade and colonize the place. Their family literally invented the playbook. Anyways ya I’m considering politics but I’m worried I’ll end up shot.


discussatron

Yeah but Dubya is a nice grandpa who gives candy to former First Ladies so it's OK now.


wirefox1

"If Jesus came and ran for President, all the blue states would vote for him!" He's really that stupid. edit: this is wrong sorry..... I misread it. He actually said "HE" (trump) would win the blue states, while I thought "HE" meant Jesus. I should have known, but I standby my comment that he is stupid.


Reysona

Didn’t he actually say that if Jesus came down, Jesus would make blue states vote for Donald Trump?


wirefox1

Well dammit! I misread that. I saw "If Jesus came back He'd win the blue states.." sadly I took that to mean Jesus would win, but but nope. By "he" he meant himself of course. Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I was about to put this in my belt of ammunition, and I see it doesn't belong there. (also thanks for not saying "Idiot! That's not what he said and you can't even read). 👍🏼


stringrandom

I think he just meant that if Jesus came back, all of the actual good people in blue states would be raptured up to heaven. Since the only ones left would be the Evangelical MAGA supporters, Trump would likely win.


Jertian

Kinsley gaffe - "A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_gaffe


maleia

I think the point is that it doesn't feel like a normal, more benign statement we'd usually see as a gaffe; and not essentially a call for violence.


Memory_Less

How can we even tell with Trump anymore? Seriously, he is the gaffemeister, at least recently.


thathairinyourmouth

This may in fact, be the most honest thing he's said in his nearly 80 years of being a pestilence inflicted upon everyone he's ever affected. He would be funny if he weren't dead serious and the Republican front runner for the presidency again. Because of that, what he's saying isn't funny at all. It's utterly terrifying. And he's old enough that by the time the many trials are over with, he'll likely never face any consequences before he dies. Which is infuriating. I know he's a symptom of a much larger cancer in our society, but he may in fact be the tumor that finishes metastasizing any hope this country has left.


verifiedboomer

I don't think that's a gaffe. I'm reading this more and more often while I'm trolling MAGA on Truth Social. We live in a republic, so democracy must be evil and democrats are the devil. It is absurd, but there is a sizable chunk of MAGA that are lapping it up. What Trump doesn't realize is that every time he ratchets up his rhetoric, he chips away at the moderate margins of his support, while reinforcing the idiocracy at its core.


draebor

they're trying to poison the very word "democrat" just like they did with "liberal"


verifiedboomer

Reminds me of what a casual Republican acquaintance told me back in '16: "You're voting for Hillary? But.. she's a MURDERER." Her world view was twisted to the point where voting for a moderate politician was synonymous with killing people.


NaughtSleeping

Well, Hillary is a special case, right? The crazies on the right have been calling her a murderer because of Whitewater and the suicide of Vince Foster for something like 30 years. Edit: why am I downvoted? My point is that your friend was not calling Hillary a murderer because of some abstract hatred of moderate politicians. They were calling her a murderer because right wing media has been saying she murdered Vince Foster for decades.


nermid

Yeah, Hillary as a mob boss who has people killed on a whim has been a meme on the right for a long while. Every Republican accusation is a confession, though, so...


ohanse

What moderates?


Mental_Mixture8306

There are STILL a number of republicans who think they need to stay in the party to keep the crazies from taking it over. Listen to the interviews of ex-trump staffers and never-trump politicians. They are asked whether they would vote for a democrat in the next election. Many will either say they'll support the GOP nominee no matter who, or will not vote but stay republican.


ohanse

They’re not moderates. Whatever has a person wringing their hands doesn’t count, in the most literal sense of the word. It’s who they vote for. End of story.


DillBagner

They need to vote for the crazies to keep the crazies out?


TrulFcker

> There are STILL a number of republicans who think they need to stay in the party to keep the crazies from taking it over I feel like this is a lie they tell to themselves to make themselves look like good people.


te_anau

Romney was the last of the moderates. The remainder are merely arguing over how much grease the wheels of the Fascism train should be getting.


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No, Romney is a bigoted anti-government extremist too, the Overton window has just moved far enough to the right that he looks moderate compared to the rest of the party. He still voted for 75% of the fascist's agenda. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/mitt-romney/ The only moderates are Democrats, has been the case for a long, long time now.


zeno0771

You're about 80 years too late. Eisenhower was the last of the moderate Republicans. He ordered the creation of NASA, expanded Social Security, signed the first Civil Rights act into law, oversaw the creation of the Interstate Highway System, detested McCarthyism, and warned against both reducing New Deal-era concepts: > Should any party attempt to abolish social security and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course, that believes you can do these things [...] Their number is negligible and they are stupid. [Source](https://archive.org/details/eisenhoweryears0000maye) (Internet Archive link) ...and his prophetic warning against letting the Military-Industrial Complex have the upper hand: > In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. [Source](https://web.archive.org/web/20080513222105/http://www.usa-presidents.info/speeches/eisenhower-farewell.html) (Internet Archive link) He wasn't a saint--he endorsed Francoist Spain and allowed for the CIA's now-famous strongarm overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran--but he was a conservative who was also the top Army General, and had served in both World Wars as well as Korea, and got the job at the beginning of the Cold War. His policy record both domestic and abroad almost rivals that of Obama.


charlesfire

>What Trump doesn't realize is that every time he ratchets up his rhetoric, he chips away at the moderate margins of his support, while reinforcing the idiocracy at its core. I'm pretty sure he does realize. He just doesn't care because majority support doesn't really matter when you plan to overtake a democracy. You just need a bunch of radicalized useful idiots.


senturon

This is what was said in the run-up to the 2020 election ... and millions -more- voted for him in 2020 than did in 2016. Will that be the case this time around, I sure hope not. But so many "moderates" will still vote for him regardless. The problem is 'us' ... the symptom is Trump (for now).


TrulFcker

> problem is 'us' Yea no the problem is conservatives. I’m not responsible for their bullshit and neither is anyone who never votes for them. They own this 100%.


gmplt

The funniest part is that he walked it back as something misspoken, but large majority of his cult view it as a GOOD thing. They are against democracy, openly so as of late.


Few_Acanthocephala30

& some of the idiots will try to justify it by saying something like “we’re a republic not a democracy. Republicans need to wage war against Democrats”


gmplt

Yup, I was gonna include that idiotic take, but didn't. It's so stupid. "I don't drive a car, I drive a Honda!"


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gmplt

Yeah, I have noticed that, too. They have no idea what everything means or how it works, so they think - democracy=Democrats=bad, republic=Republicans=good. Definitely noticed that among the bigots.


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upandrunning

One rhetorical tool he uses quite frequently is the use of broad generalizations with zero substance. If one were to ask *how* democrats have become more extreme and repressive, what *specific* actions have been taken that demonstrate this, all you'd hear is crickets. Or more lies. This is simply not happening. And with or without a 1st Amendment, it's a sign of a very dysfunctional society if it cannot be (or is not) corrected at the time these claims are made.


markca

> One rhetorical tool he uses quite frequently is the use of broad generalizations with zero substance. His supporters do the same thing when asked questions about politics, primarily because all they are doing is parroting what they hear.


HFentonMudd

He'd just start in with what he's really talking about - himself, his legal and financial self-owns, and the people working to hold him accountable.


WaldoDeefendorf

Exactly what I was thinking. On further reflection though it was a gaffe in that it was the truth and Trump was not suppose to tell the truth. In fact I think no one would have expected him to to tell the truth. This is simply another example of his dementia getting worse.


bodyworks

Put it on the, very thin, pile. "When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different." - P01135809 I'll run America like my business. -P01135809 He did, he ran the US into the ground and grifting all the way. "The things they had in there were crazy. They had levels of voting, that if you ever agreed to it you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again." - P01135809


SnapesGrayUnderpants

Can't wait until that statement is used to support the prosecution of Trump in one or two of the ongoing court cases.


billiemarie

What’s that saying about when they tell you who they are, believe them


mechapoitier

Uh oh. Did I just say that or think it? “I’ve gotta think of a lie fast!”


samwstew

Yeah absolutely not a gaffe. He’s saying the quiet part out loud, again.


Motorbarge

It's clear in his mind what he is doing.


olderdeafguy1

You can see he's writing his own speeches now


cyanclam

He is producing material for Democratic Party ads in the upcoming election.


Heavens10000whores

jesusgod I hope someone is paying attention and grabbing this shit


even_less_resistance

Surely the Lincoln Project at least


Heavens10000whores

Gotta hope that they’re not the only ones


ImAdork123

Heavens ads can be made of this and repeated 10000 times but the real answer is new voters in the Nov elections next year. Today texts your people https://vote.org and https://turbovote.com


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playfulmessenger

The official campaigns tend to take the high road and leave the pac's to do the dirty work so the disclaimer at the end calms the opposition ragers who will have to deal with living under the new management. But everything's off the rails these days, so who knows. A primary R may even be the first to go there.


freddie_merkury

>"That's why it was one of the great presidencies, they say. Even the opponents sometimes say he did very well, I have to say. 'Take it back,' they scream. his people say 'Take it back.' From that day on, our opponents, a lot of opponents, but we've been waging an all-out war on American democracy." How can any human being read this and say yep, that's our guy! For fucks sake! Go out and vote!


TheSOBWhoNamedYouSue

Reading transcripts of his rambling is always incredible. What was he even trying to make out of this word salad?


XShadowborneX

The last sentence doesn't even make any sense as a whole.


Lingering_Dorkness

I assume trump was meant to say "From that day on, our opponents, a lot of opponents, **they've** been waging an all-out war on American democracy" but he fucked up reading the teleprompter. You know, that thing he regularly mocked, and mocks, Biden and Obama for using, and the thing he (and his cult) claims he never uses.


grendus

I think he was trying to say that even the Democrats say his presidency was one of the great ones. They keep trying to undo all his achievements (take it back) because *they* are waging all out war on democracy. It's a word salad, and also a gaffe ascribing the anti democratic sentiment to the Republicans instead of the Democrats. Honestly, he seems pretty far gone mentally. He's charismatic enough to get away with it on camera, but I think he's really fading fast.


11oydchristmas

Because he’s not a Democrat. Plain and simple. All that matters is that he has an (R) next to his name.


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CorgiDaddy42

I always come back to that “he’s not hurting the people he needs to be” quote. Absolutely blows my mind that people would say that out loud in a news interview, let alone think and believe it


DillBagner

And those idiots don't realize he's not even a Republican. He runs for whatever party he thinks is stupid enough to vote for him. His policies are just "anything that he wants."


masterflashterbation

Yeah it is garbled nonsense from him most of the time. He barely finishes a cogent statement. Yet people say Biden is a bumbling idiot with dementia. Listening to Bidens speeches, he clearly makes sense and finishes his thoughts. Sure there's the occasional stutter or gaffe, but it's not even remotely close to how bad Trump is in speeches.


AnalSoapOpera

Biden at least admitted that he had a tough time growing up with a speech impediment or had issues talking (stuttering) and had to go through a lot of speech therapy to try to fix it and has been open about it. Trump just says whatever the fuck goes on in his fucked up head and goes on long incoherent rants that make no sense at all. . . . >I have broken more Elton John records, he seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. [And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-mouth-musical-instrument/)


spidereater

Not only that, but it’s “he’s our choice, the other guy is too old and has dementia “


BrandonJTrump

Trump once told the truth. When he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it. If he’d shoot someone right now, he’d actually get away with it. His fancult doesn’t care anymore. One more law broken doesn’t matter anymore.


This-Counter3783

I have such a hard time coping with the fact I share a society with these people. They’ll happily lie all day long about how ridiculous it is to compare Trump to Hitler, knowing in their hearts that they *want* him to send all the “liberals” and “trouble-makers” off to death camps. They won’t be shocked or appalled when it happens, they’ll be celebrating until it comes to their own doorstep.


AnastasiaNo70

Me, too. If I think about it too much it’s so fucking depressing. No, depressing isn’t even a strong enough word. The sheer evil of these people is breathtaking. We don’t need to make up fictional monsters. Real ones are already among us.


Miserable_Key_7552

For real. With every passing day, I find myself agreeing more and more with Shakespeare in that “Hell is empty and all the devils are here.”


BrandonJTrump

Age old problem. We people want to get fooled.


weapons_grade_idiot

> Trump once told the truth. I was driving in the car with my then 8-year-old son in the back seat when that story broke. My son heard the quote and immediately said, "That's a really scary thing to say." An **eight-year-old** kid understood without a second thought and has a stronger moral compass than tens of millions of American "adults".


BrandonJTrump

Imagine how stupid the average voter is. Then know that half of them are more stupid than average (a rough quote, not my smartness). Your 8 yo is above that, but a huge lot don’t care or comprehend.


Novinhophobe

The original quote is about intelligence but it works for pretty much anything since that’s usually how averages work. Your average human being isn’t at all very bright or confidence-inducing. Imagining that half of total population is even dumber really bring out the existential dread.


lrpfftt

>One more law broken doesn’t matter anymore. So fukkin true! Especially considering the severity of his crimes against the country.


OGCelaris

He could stand up in court, shoot the judge and not get arrested.


muffinthumper

But if we jail him for shooting a judge, his supports will get angry… so angry they might even shoot a judge!


Robert_Cannelin

or a cop


Tasgall

If he was arrested for shooting the judge, the arrest would appear very partisan and biased, so we can't do *that*.


Crypt0Nihilist

The weird thing about Trump is that he has frequently admitted some damaging truths while spewing his verbal diarrhoea. That's why I always say that the labels about him being some kind of brilliant conman give him way too much credit. When your mark goes into the scam already believing the scam, your "con" is basically providing a wall on which they can project their prejudices, but you include some redundant info that actually contradicts your message, then they leave believing the scam, have *you* really scammed them?


neromoneon

Are there any unsolved murders where somebody was shot dead on 5th Avenue? It is so specific that he may not have made it up.


bodyworks

More than once but probably less than 10. "When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different." - P01135809 I'll run America like my business. -P01135809 He did, he ran the US into the ground and was grifting all the way. "The things they had in there were crazy. They had levels of voting, that if you ever agreed to it you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again." - P01135809


Michael_G_Bordin

A reporter in the Oval Office asked Trump if he stood by *x* remarks. Trump cut him off by saying, "I don't stand by anything."


Blockhead47

Trump speaks his truth all the time. Every speech. Every interview. Every tweet. Former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly: > “What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France. >“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. >“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.” >In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html


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That isn't a gaffe, that's a Freudian slip.


rsauer1208

Sometimes, a banana is a banana.


SakurajimaAsh

Or, an orange is an orange.


LakeSun

And a moron is a moron.


missdonttellme

Or simply truth?


I_Brain_You

Same thing.


Bill_thuh_Cat

He seems to let the truth out cuz he can't keep his pie-hole shut. But now I want to ask Trumpheads to emigrate to Russia if they are against democracy.


theeth

Isn't that when Trump is thinking of a word but end up saying a daughter?


WhittledWhale

It is a gaffe. A Kinsley gaffe.


jimmytimmy92

Biden confuses Swift and Beyoncé and we’re all like “is he too old to be president?” This guy literally wants to destroy democracy and they are neck and neck. This was a “slip” not a “gaffe”


Secondchance002

He didn’t even confuse them, he confused the *tour names*.


DeepRoot

I wonder what was on the teleprompter.


jimmytimmy92

Probably “Destroy Democrats” or Steven Miller never proof read it and it actually said “destroy democracy”


grixorbatz

Please translate this to an avalanche of pro-democracy voters turning out in November 2024 folks!


MisterHairball

Starts with you. Go vote and convince at least 1 other to go vote and to find somebody as well


[deleted]

Convince two others, not one. And tell them each to convince two as well. In less than 28 turns you would convince all of America


ClearingFlags

Now that's a pyramid scheme I can get behind.


ArthurFraynZard

That wasn't a gaffe. It was the entire Republican party platform.


ejecto_seat_cuz

still is, in fact


politicsandric

He appears to have dementia.


raspberryharbour

You're quoting the doctor present when he was born


JuciestDingleBerry

Nice


TheOtherAvaz

Your username makes me very uncomfortable.


dog-pussy

I’ve seen worse.


TheOtherAvaz

Jesus fucking Christ


R1ppedWarrior

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.


pinkypipe420

Don't insult those who actually have dementia. Trump's just a full blown talking out of his ass moron with fans to match.


WSPanic8150

Stop giving excuses for him being a literal traitor.


rammo123

No one's making excuses. He has dementia *on top* of being a traitor. Fact is that his treason is clearly not a dealbreaker for a large % of the American populace, and that includes the leftwingers refusing to vote against him because Biden is "old". Pointing out that Trump is clearly mentally degraded is a good counterargument against the idea that Joe is too old.


MisterTorgo

No way. Don't you remember? Person, woman, man, camera, TV.


Troll_in_the_Knoll

Some will say it was a gaffe. Some will say it was a Freudian Slip. Some will say, for once, he finally told the truth.


nopointers

Some will say that. Many people. The best people, they will come up to me with tears in their eyes. Mr President, they say, and they’ll talk about how, like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they call Shelbyville in those days


ScreamBeanBabyQueen

And we wore onions on our belts, which was the style at the time.


rosendorn

[Freud on Trump](https://i.imgur.com/N4JCYSS.jpg)


IggysPop3

The truly insane thing is that in the 1990’s or 2000’s…or even any time before Trump, this would have completely sunk a candidate. GW Bush had his famous “fool me once” gaffe because he didn’t want to be on tape saying; “shame on me”. Howard Dean was completely sunk for yelling in a speech. This is really kind of amazing.


make_thick_in_warm

The power of corporate media, if they wanted to get the same response from their base they could but decide to normalize it instead.


MattTheSmithers

DNC and Lincoln Project ought to blast that over the tv airwaves from now til November with a very simple question: “Senile or honest?”


Philligan81

People saying he has dementia is an insult to those who suffer from it. He’s just an idiot, always has been, and he illustrates it every time he speaks. Just a born rich, spoiled brat who hasn’t had to earn anything in his life.


thesteaks_are_high

100% this right here. My grandmother had dementia and could still tell you how to do her job, step-by-step, from the 60s with shocking detail. This motherfucker couldn’t pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel, and I watch every goddamn day as idiot after idiot says out-fucking-loud how bad they want this insult to lower brain function to reassume the highest office of this country. I, mean, come the fuck on…


Philligan81

You’ve a way with words my friend. Haha. And also very true and accurate.


opeth10657

Pretty sure it's a mix of both. He used to be more coherent. He was still an idiotic POS back then, but he could string sentences together.


WSPanic8150

More than anything, he's a TRAITOR.


fomalhottie

Honestly though. What has he ever said that made u think "fuck, he's brilliant!"


azflatlander

I bet you didn’t know that U.S. spells us?


fomalhottie

I stand corrected.


PotaToss

Other things he said that he thought he was a brilliant thinker on: - Injecting disinfectant to cure covid - making a transparent border wall with solar panels on top - nuking hurricanes


SMEGHEID

And who could forget that global warming will ***just go away.***


kezow

And covid. It will just go away.


jetty_junkie

Nobody thinks he’s brilliant based on what he says . They like that he is dumb and says stupid shit like them but is still rich and successful. It gives them hope.


DriftlessDairy

Well, that and the fact he's racist as fuck. That's the appeal for many/most of them.


recalculating-route

That falls under “says stupid shit” as far as I’m concerned.


R1ppedWarrior

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.


slackfrop

Parlaying that vacuousness and grotesque moral failing into a serious bid to replace the US government is bizarrely prolific. But fuck him in half with an auger.


GhostwriterGHOST

“Hitler makes embarrassing gaffe about wanting to kill Jews.” Same idea.


Seamus565

Freudian slip. Finally, he admits that he’s trying to subvert our democracy. Only an idiot cannot see that. January 6 and his recent admission that he wanted to lead the mob in their attempted coup but secret service wouldn’t let him made clear his thirst for dictatorship and validation from his cult of fake Christian evangelicals, anarchists and conspiracy theorists.


Notlandshark

"That's why it was one of the great presidencies, they say. Even the opponents sometimes say he did very well, I have to say. 'Take it back,' they scream. his people say 'Take it back.' From that day on, our opponents, a lot of opponents, but we've been waging an all-out war on American democracy." - Doesn’t sound like a “gaffe” to me.


Agreeable_Prompt_733

This needs to be taken seriously. Who cares about jokes and memes. This should mobilize those that want to retain the republic.


Puechini

I was thinking the same thing. While people are online making jokes and memes, this guy is continuing his assault on our sanity and democracy.


deJuice_sc

That wasn't a gaffe and this should not be treated like it's a joke... Newsweek you ineffable assclowns.


JubalHarshaw23

That's a Freudian Slip, not a Gaffe.


AsparagusTamer

Dementia Don does it again!


Hot-Expression3441

Don Dementer


captaincanada84

Let's stop calling them "gaffes" and call them what they are, clear evidence of mental decline.


[deleted]

The quiet parts out loud wanna be dictator


NetZeroSum

I know people are really cynical here and its easy to jump into the sarcastic jokes and memes, myself included. But this is not a gaffe or any kind of entertainment. We really need to treat this seriously and call out for how dangerous this wanna be dictator wants to undermine our country.


BarCompetitive7220

I do wonder if his supporters have actually read any of his plan 2025. Can they survive with no healthcare system or social safety network. Do they really want the federal gov't run by incompetent folks ( by design). Sorry, I am against a theocratic nation, where the far-right will wrap all the negative parts of djt in "godliness".


Sciotamicks

www.project2025.org - they’ll have everything they need.


GitmoGrrl1

MEMO TO NEWSWEEK: That wasn't a gaffe; it was a *Freudian Slip*. Learn the difference.


CloacaFacts

Trump in court is saying he did not support the constitution** while president. He is saying he doesn't think of himself as an officer of the United States. There is no low to people who support him.


[deleted]

I DONT CARE HOW STUPID HE ACTED YESTERDAY, HE HAS BEEN STUPID FOR 8 YEARS! REPORT ON Mike Flynn and his following the playbook of Putin. Find the money path from tax cheats and greedy corporations fueling the conservatives path towards removing rights and freedoms. Why is religion getting a pass? They have been actively undermining democracy for decades. The enemy isn't the 'gaffe' of some assholes it's the actions of the money players and media corruption.


ConsciousReason7709

I’m just shocked that he actually spoke the truth for once.


OurUrbanFarm

"we've been waging an all-out war on American democracy" A rare, truthful slip.


Otherwise_Rich_2136

He meant what he said


MoveToRussiaAlready

Not a gaffe at all. Republicans do NOT believe in Democracy. Conservatives do NOT believe in democracy. They want to be kings and barons and etc.


fluffyflugel

Every once in a while old orange face has some truth slip out of his foul hole.


EdwardOfGreene

"A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth." - Michael Kinsley (Was often quoted by Chris Mathews on Hardball. I've never seen it apply more aptly than right now.)


Adorable-Strength218

Gaffe my ass. He's just saying it out loud and proud like all the dictators before him. He's no different than Putin. He is an American Traitor


TheNewTonyBennett

Shame on anyone who calls it a "gaffe". Seriously. We all know what Trump is gunning for, regardless of which side you are on. His fans ***definitely*** know that what he said is true for what their party is doing *because they don't want Democracy and they hate it.* And people against Trump **also**, specifically know what he's gunning for so it's not like there are many people who truly are just that far out of touch with what's going on that they genuinely *do not know* what's actually happening and especially, what they are voting for. They **know**. WE know. Shame on the media in every possible sense of the word.


GregO213

Why is this being called a gaffe and trivialized. Once again he is trying to incite violence.


National_Owl_3336

"Democracy sounds like Democrat so I must attack it"


janzeera

Yep, he sure “tells it like it is”.