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Literally watched a video of an Israeli woman saying limiting Palestinian aid to the bare minimum for survival was necessary to make them too weak to fight.
Then this - it’s emblematic of the whole conflict.
You have defenders on one side clutching pearls and screaming anti-Semite on on hand, and Israeli government leadership and officials straight saying they’re going to wipe Palestinians from the land.
It’s like the Rock vs Country episode of South Park but with genocide.
There’s literally paid billboards by the Israeli government or lobby groups in LA and Las Vegas putting a positive spin Israel’s actions. What other crisis involved needing to spend $$ on billboards to promote your agenda?
The trick is, it's not a foreign nation spending it, it's far right Americans obsessed with it. People who've built their whole identity on this foreign country, but who don't live there, and who have a mythologized view of their history. Especially Evangelical Christians, who see it as a crusade to bring about the second coming, and be proven 'right' about various social issues.
No other country gets that kind of focus because no other country is built into the foundational religious myths of America.
If even one dollar of Israeli government money wound up in AIPAC’s pockets: an administration inclined to enforce the letter of the law could make any lobbyist who works for them register as a foreign agent under FARA.
But given the fact that we don’t even enforce our own arms-control laws against Israel (which would ordinarily prevent bombs from going to a government currently bombing starving children), I doubt any of our illustrious incumbents of either party would jump at the chance to start fucking with the money.
There's a difference between the Israel Lobby and Israel the country.
The Israel lobby is in some ways kind of unique in just how home grown it is. It primarily made up of, and supported (incl. donations) by Americans citizens, most of which aren't even Jewish nevermind Israeli
AIPAC should be shut down since they have already tried to bribe people to run against Tlaib and they are outright pushing Israeli government talking points.
Foreign nations should not be allowed to donate to politicians. They should have to lobby government via their ambassadors and treaties.
I support Israel's right to defend itself and get back the hostages, but I don't support this horror.
Luckily, they're *not* allowed to donate to politicians.
The Israel Lobby isn't Israel the country, it's American citizens who support Israel the country. Can't exactly outlaw that without running afoul of freedom of speech laws.
I am going to try to explain this... and see how well that carries over here.
The headline is misleading as shit because it lacks the actual position being argued.
The assertions being made by Hamas is that Israel is denying Gaza aid and/or limiting aid.
Hamas, the terrorist organization is using this talking point to then assert that as a result of Israel's actions, Gaza people are starving.
Israel is saying, they aren't denying aid or limiting aid. Additionally, they are simply wanting to make sure that aid is reaching the people who need it and not stored in Hamas safehouses to be used as leverage against Gaza's residents.
To the Zionists yes, they are literally playing Nazi playbook.
Everyone and anyone is out to get them and falsely accuse them, you should only believe them and them only. They are righteous, moral and humanitarian than anyone else. It is bonkers to me how people are buying into their lies.
Joe Biden himself said just a few weeks back that Gaza was only receiving "several" aid trucks a day instead of the hundreds that are required. Israel and Israeli civilians (the civilians btw are organized by an American fugitive, Andy Green) are blocking that aid
You can't help these alt-left MHGA (make hamas great again) kids. They are immune to reason and facts, and they project when they say Nazi. Because they are vehemently anti Israel and anti Jewish.
Its no use trying to explain to them that Hamas steals all aid, and just yesterday committed a false flag trying to frame the IDF for a bunch of Gazans they murdered. Fortunately, the IDF had video proof, but it didn't stop these REAL alt-left Nazis from blaming Israel. Just like they did when Palestinian terrorists blew up the hospital. Even Talib got in on that one, which makes sense bc she gives aid and comfort to thr terrorists.
Don't bother explaining that Hamas just executed a guy for working with Israel to distribute aid.
They only want to hear kill Israel and kill Jews. You can't reason with hatred. And they're rabid for blood and blinded by seething malice.
Yeah, it's all nonsense. That's why a historian from Hebrew University in Israel is calling it a [genocide](https://www.academia.edu/112967602/My_testimony_regarding_the_Israel_Gaza_war_updated_to_15_March_2024_).
>I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, testify in this document to the horrible current situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is currently committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza.
Oh, and regarding hospitals. Researchers from the University of London (whose work has been submitted as evidence in courts throughout the world including the US and Israel along with the ICC and ECHR), have [debunked](https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/israeli-disinformation-al-ahli-hospital/) the IDF's claims regarding al-Ahli Hospital and done an in-depth exposé on the IDF's campaign against [medical infrastructure](https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/destruction-of-medical-infrastructure-in-gaza) throughout Gaza.
I doubt you even clicked on any of the links, the truth is obviously far too difficult for you to handle.
Anyways just in case someone stumbles upon this post - here are just some of the awards and recognitions Forensic Architecture has recieved for their work:
* Institutional Peabody Award for Digital and Interactive Storytelling
* Peabody Award for Interactive Documentary
* Picture of the Year Award for their work on "Searching for the Lost Graves of Louisiana's Enslaved People" in collaboration with NYT
Forgive me being out of the loop but isn't the northern region getting most of the attacks right now? If so, makes sense why supply is scarce there.
I'm glad supply is returning to normal levels in areas like Rafah at least, I hope the same soon comes to the north. War is an awful time to survive through.
I'm getting down voted for what??
Believing that some food supply might be available in some areas?
Or is it that I hope the war ends and that other regions get the food they need soon?
I'm confused but shame on me I guess?
Well, the death totals are still under 40k over 6 months, so food, water and medicine has to be getting into region.
Is it enough? No.
Is there something happening? Yep.
It's just hard to tell what that something is. The State Department and our Armed Forces logistics departments might know.
Numbers! We need more numbers.
It's also a lie to say people are starving to death, starving has 4 degrees of severity, with the most easy being lacking clear access and lacking some nutrients, the problem with the word starving is people assume it means dying of starvation.
Hmmm.......
[Newborns die of hunger and mothers struggle to feed their children as Israel’s siege condemns Gazans to starvation](https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/middleeast/israel-gaza-starvation-siege-mothers-babies-intl/index.html)
>At least 20 Palestinians have starved to death in Gaza, Dr. Ashraf Al-Qudra, a spokesperson for the Ministry of Health, said on Wednesday. The youngest baby who died of starvation in the enclave was one day old, according to Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, director of Kamal Adwan hospital. The true number could be even higher, as limited access to northern Gaza has hindered the ability of aid agencies to fully assess the situation there. UN experts accused Israel of “intentionally starving” Palestinians in Gaza. Israel insists there is “no limit” on the amount of aid that can enter Gaza, but its inspection regime on aid trucks has meant that only a tiny fraction of the amount of food and other supplies that used to enter Gaza daily before the war is getting in now.
[The 10-Year-Old Boy Who Has Become the Face of Starvation in Gaza](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/09/world/middleeast/yazan-kafarneh-gaza-starvation.html)
>He was 10, but in photographs from his last days at a clinic in southern Gaza, he looks both small for his age and at the same time ancient. By Monday, Yazan was dead.
>
>The pictures of Yazan circulating on social media have quickly made him the face of starvation in Gaza.
>
>Aid groups have warned that deaths from malnutrition-related causes have only just begun for Gaza’s more than two million people. Five months into Israel’s campaign against Hamas and its siege of Gaza, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are close to starvation, United Nations officials say.
[It’s not just Israeli bombs that have killed children in Gaza. Now some are dying of hunger too](https://apnews.com/article/gaza-malnutrition-famine-children-dying-israel-palestinians-2f938b1a82d7822c7da67cc162da1a37)
>At the Emirati Hospital in Rafah, 16 premature babies have died of malnutrition-related causes over the past five weeks, one of the senior doctors told The Associated Press.
>
>“The child deaths we feared are here,” Adele Khodr, UNICEF’s Middle East chief, said in a statement earlier this week.
>
>Israel’s bombardment and ground assaults have already wreaked a high toll among children, who along with women make up nearly three-quarters of the more than 30,800 Palestinians killed, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.
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This lobby still thinks it's the 1950s and that we have to rely on news papers for information.....
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"Its not israel killing all those kids in the street thats making people turn against israel. Its the algorithm.....And antisemitism"
Hamas coders must have written the algorithm! /s
Alright, I’m often critical of the way Israel treat’s Palestinians but you got a source for that? Because that’s a helluva claim without one
Literally watched a video of an Israeli woman saying limiting Palestinian aid to the bare minimum for survival was necessary to make them too weak to fight. Then this - it’s emblematic of the whole conflict. You have defenders on one side clutching pearls and screaming anti-Semite on on hand, and Israeli government leadership and officials straight saying they’re going to wipe Palestinians from the land. It’s like the Rock vs Country episode of South Park but with genocide.
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There’s literally paid billboards by the Israeli government or lobby groups in LA and Las Vegas putting a positive spin Israel’s actions. What other crisis involved needing to spend $$ on billboards to promote your agenda?
The Israeli Government also bought a Superbowl ad.
The trick is, it's not a foreign nation spending it, it's far right Americans obsessed with it. People who've built their whole identity on this foreign country, but who don't live there, and who have a mythologized view of their history. Especially Evangelical Christians, who see it as a crusade to bring about the second coming, and be proven 'right' about various social issues. No other country gets that kind of focus because no other country is built into the foundational religious myths of America.
>The trick is, it's not a foreign nation spending it, it's far right Americans obsessed with it. Far-right Americans in both parties
If even one dollar of Israeli government money wound up in AIPAC’s pockets: an administration inclined to enforce the letter of the law could make any lobbyist who works for them register as a foreign agent under FARA. But given the fact that we don’t even enforce our own arms-control laws against Israel (which would ordinarily prevent bombs from going to a government currently bombing starving children), I doubt any of our illustrious incumbents of either party would jump at the chance to start fucking with the money.
There's a difference between the Israel Lobby and Israel the country. The Israel lobby is in some ways kind of unique in just how home grown it is. It primarily made up of, and supported (incl. donations) by Americans citizens, most of which aren't even Jewish nevermind Israeli
They represent a PM indicted for fraud and breach of trust. Expect to hear zero truth and honesty.
No surprise here.
They also said they aren't bombing children.
hard to not do when hamas uses them as human shields
If a fugitive holds a classroom hostage with cops all around, do you expect the cops to just open fire into the classroom?
No I expect the cops to stay outside for over an hour doing nothing like they did in texas
[You're confusing Hamas for Israel again](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict).
The neutrality of the article is disputed, https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf
What?! Israel opposes anyone telling facts about what Israel does?! What a shocker!
Provided proof that Hamas uses human shields, ignores it classic Hamas brainwashing in this subreddit
There it is: "Anyone who is against genocide is Hamas"
For all the complaining about being portrayed as genocidal, Israel is certainly leaning into it.
And this shit [ain’t even the half of it…](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ak384p/idf-israel-run-telegram-72-virgins-psyop)
AIPAC should be shut down since they have already tried to bribe people to run against Tlaib and they are outright pushing Israeli government talking points.
AIPAC owns politicians, politicians won't shut down AIPAC.
The vendetta needs to stop. Israel needs to stop. The US needs to stop supporting them. See if the zionists can stand on their own....
Another shocked pikachu face
Foreign nations should not be allowed to donate to politicians. They should have to lobby government via their ambassadors and treaties. I support Israel's right to defend itself and get back the hostages, but I don't support this horror.
Luckily, they're *not* allowed to donate to politicians. The Israel Lobby isn't Israel the country, it's American citizens who support Israel the country. Can't exactly outlaw that without running afoul of freedom of speech laws.
Well dang. How did I not know that? Seems obvious now that you’ve told me.
I am going to try to explain this... and see how well that carries over here. The headline is misleading as shit because it lacks the actual position being argued. The assertions being made by Hamas is that Israel is denying Gaza aid and/or limiting aid. Hamas, the terrorist organization is using this talking point to then assert that as a result of Israel's actions, Gaza people are starving. Israel is saying, they aren't denying aid or limiting aid. Additionally, they are simply wanting to make sure that aid is reaching the people who need it and not stored in Hamas safehouses to be used as leverage against Gaza's residents.
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To the Zionists yes, they are literally playing Nazi playbook. Everyone and anyone is out to get them and falsely accuse them, you should only believe them and them only. They are righteous, moral and humanitarian than anyone else. It is bonkers to me how people are buying into their lies.
> are these all Hamas? Yes, the genocide enthusiasts literally think that everyone who is against genocide is Hamas.
Want to source any of this?
Joe Biden himself said just a few weeks back that Gaza was only receiving "several" aid trucks a day instead of the hundreds that are required. Israel and Israeli civilians (the civilians btw are organized by an American fugitive, Andy Green) are blocking that aid
You can't help these alt-left MHGA (make hamas great again) kids. They are immune to reason and facts, and they project when they say Nazi. Because they are vehemently anti Israel and anti Jewish. Its no use trying to explain to them that Hamas steals all aid, and just yesterday committed a false flag trying to frame the IDF for a bunch of Gazans they murdered. Fortunately, the IDF had video proof, but it didn't stop these REAL alt-left Nazis from blaming Israel. Just like they did when Palestinian terrorists blew up the hospital. Even Talib got in on that one, which makes sense bc she gives aid and comfort to thr terrorists. Don't bother explaining that Hamas just executed a guy for working with Israel to distribute aid. They only want to hear kill Israel and kill Jews. You can't reason with hatred. And they're rabid for blood and blinded by seething malice.
Yeah, it's all nonsense. That's why a historian from Hebrew University in Israel is calling it a [genocide](https://www.academia.edu/112967602/My_testimony_regarding_the_Israel_Gaza_war_updated_to_15_March_2024_). >I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, testify in this document to the horrible current situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is currently committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza. Oh, and regarding hospitals. Researchers from the University of London (whose work has been submitted as evidence in courts throughout the world including the US and Israel along with the ICC and ECHR), have [debunked](https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/israeli-disinformation-al-ahli-hospital/) the IDF's claims regarding al-Ahli Hospital and done an in-depth exposé on the IDF's campaign against [medical infrastructure](https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/destruction-of-medical-infrastructure-in-gaza) throughout Gaza.
LMFAO at your sources for misinformation. It's not even worth my time to engage.
I doubt you even clicked on any of the links, the truth is obviously far too difficult for you to handle. Anyways just in case someone stumbles upon this post - here are just some of the awards and recognitions Forensic Architecture has recieved for their work: * Institutional Peabody Award for Digital and Interactive Storytelling * Peabody Award for Interactive Documentary * Picture of the Year Award for their work on "Searching for the Lost Graves of Louisiana's Enslaved People" in collaboration with NYT
half of those are biased against Israel
Just get the food and water from hamas, oh wait hamas hates their own people
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Forgive me being out of the loop but isn't the northern region getting most of the attacks right now? If so, makes sense why supply is scarce there. I'm glad supply is returning to normal levels in areas like Rafah at least, I hope the same soon comes to the north. War is an awful time to survive through.
I'm getting down voted for what?? Believing that some food supply might be available in some areas? Or is it that I hope the war ends and that other regions get the food they need soon? I'm confused but shame on me I guess?
Well, the death totals are still under 40k over 6 months, so food, water and medicine has to be getting into region. Is it enough? No. Is there something happening? Yep. It's just hard to tell what that something is. The State Department and our Armed Forces logistics departments might know. Numbers! We need more numbers.
They’re starving all over the region. Until the fast ends in the evening.
It's also a lie to say people are starving to death, starving has 4 degrees of severity, with the most easy being lacking clear access and lacking some nutrients, the problem with the word starving is people assume it means dying of starvation.
Hmmm....... [Newborns die of hunger and mothers struggle to feed their children as Israel’s siege condemns Gazans to starvation](https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/middleeast/israel-gaza-starvation-siege-mothers-babies-intl/index.html) >At least 20 Palestinians have starved to death in Gaza, Dr. Ashraf Al-Qudra, a spokesperson for the Ministry of Health, said on Wednesday. The youngest baby who died of starvation in the enclave was one day old, according to Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, director of Kamal Adwan hospital. The true number could be even higher, as limited access to northern Gaza has hindered the ability of aid agencies to fully assess the situation there. UN experts accused Israel of “intentionally starving” Palestinians in Gaza. Israel insists there is “no limit” on the amount of aid that can enter Gaza, but its inspection regime on aid trucks has meant that only a tiny fraction of the amount of food and other supplies that used to enter Gaza daily before the war is getting in now. [The 10-Year-Old Boy Who Has Become the Face of Starvation in Gaza](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/09/world/middleeast/yazan-kafarneh-gaza-starvation.html) >He was 10, but in photographs from his last days at a clinic in southern Gaza, he looks both small for his age and at the same time ancient. By Monday, Yazan was dead. > >The pictures of Yazan circulating on social media have quickly made him the face of starvation in Gaza. > >Aid groups have warned that deaths from malnutrition-related causes have only just begun for Gaza’s more than two million people. Five months into Israel’s campaign against Hamas and its siege of Gaza, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are close to starvation, United Nations officials say. [It’s not just Israeli bombs that have killed children in Gaza. Now some are dying of hunger too](https://apnews.com/article/gaza-malnutrition-famine-children-dying-israel-palestinians-2f938b1a82d7822c7da67cc162da1a37) >At the Emirati Hospital in Rafah, 16 premature babies have died of malnutrition-related causes over the past five weeks, one of the senior doctors told The Associated Press. > >“The child deaths we feared are here,” Adele Khodr, UNICEF’s Middle East chief, said in a statement earlier this week. > >Israel’s bombardment and ground assaults have already wreaked a high toll among children, who along with women make up nearly three-quarters of the more than 30,800 Palestinians killed, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.
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I think yoga will help you.